User talk:Jack Greenmaven/Archive 2012

Thank You For Your Contribution to Abdullah H. Abdur-Razzaq...
I view Abdullah H. Abdur-Razzaq as an important historical figure and believe that his Wikipedia Page is long overdue. Happy to have been able to provide this brief biographical account of his life - as it relates to Malcolm X's career as a leader - I am grateful for your help. As a more experienced Wiki contributor, your assistance helped my post meet Wikipedia's standards of authenticity. Might I ask what brought you to the page and inspired you to contribute? T.Diva 19:43, 31 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taina.diva (talk • contribs)
 * I have looked back to the day when I edited Abdullah H. Abdur-Razzaq. I think I found the article when I was 'patrolling new pages'. I often patrol new articles either five or ten days after they have been created (in this case 5 days), so that authors have had a chance to get their article as they want it before other editors come in on them. I found your article needed some obvious improvements that did not require me to know anything about the gentleman, so I went ahead. You are the first person who has ever thanked me for working on 'their' article, so I am very appreciative of what you have written. Now I have told you how I found the article (I had never heard of him before).


 * Why was I 'inspired to contibute'? I find Wikipedia an inspiring project. Many people work here together for the common good, mostly in an unprejudiced, open-minded way, to benefit strangers they will never meet. We are building something that may last for generations. You may have been wanting to know whether I was sympathetic to Abdullah. I will answer that by saying I support justice for all people and harmony between all people, and in learning how that can be encouraged into being. I am not a Muslim but I am not opposed to them. I was brought up a Christian because of where I was born. I am interested in learning and in publishing truth, and WP seems to have found a way to do that. Have a Happy New Year! --Greenmaven (talk) 21:50, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

That you were unfamiliar w/the subject of my article - and simply make a habit of 'patrolling' and adding 'obvious improvements' to new articles on behalf of their authors - makes me even more grateful. Though it's surprising - and even unfortunate - that no one has thanked you up until now, it's my pleasure to express at least a small part of the gratitude you deserve. I'm sure mine is not the only subject worthy of being shared here on Wikipedia that benefited from your edits. Especially appreciated is the fact that you make a conscious effort to improve entries according to WP's standards while simultaneously preserving the content of the original author.

As I author new articles - and become more proficient at meeting WP standards in the process - I'd love to be able to do the same as you: share any expertise i develop along the way with others. So though I'm sure more thank yous are forthcoming in the future, in the meantime, rest assured that your efforts are not in vain. You are not just enriching the quantity AND quality of info available in the "WP Universe" but also inspiring (at least one) other(s) to do the same! ;) --T.Diva 23:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taina.diva (talk • contribs)


 * Since I wrote to you I remembered that I was thanked earlier for (Samuel Rosewell, above). But your thanks have had more affect on me. Feel free to ask me and others for help. I hope you do contribute more articles. By the way it is expected that you sign your comments on 'talk pages'. This done by typing four of these '~' characters at the end. The system then substitutes your User Name etc. I am signing here: --Greenmaven (talk) 23:18, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay. I thought I signed by clicking the signature icon at the top of the page but will just use the tildes from now on. I look forward to contributing more. Again, your help is greatly appreciated. T.Diva 00:36, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

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5K+ article count
Hello Greenmaven. Sorry about getting the count wrong. I was counting Peace journalism too, but you're right, it should only be counted when you've completed it. Thanks for correcting that. And thanks for posting your comment on the balance of reviews. I find reviewing very difficult - I had some bothers with reviews during the summer, too - and we need to be told when we're getting it right or wrong. I hope you won't be put off by recent events, and will soon feel like continuing. Best regards, --Stfg (talk) 21:48, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Your kind words are appreciated. I would not want to be doing the reviewers' job. I will go very slow until I feel properly rested. I want to get Peace journalism finished so it is not being 'held' by me. And, of course, I did not want anyone to think I was claiming credit for an article I had not yet finished, especially in view of my recent brain-dump about reviewing. Best regards --Greenmaven (talk) 00:44, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

 * Thanks a lot for the beer! ;-) I was just going to give you a Baklava (couldn't find a Transylvanian sweet on the Wikilove list). I was about to tell you that I added pictures and tried to wikify the article further, maybe you wish to do a second copy edit pass. Thanks for the efforts so far!--Codrin.B (talk) 19:48, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Baklava is my favorite sweet! I will get back to prehistory of T, but not immediately; I am busy elsewhere at present! Best wishes for for the New Year. --Greenmaven (talk) 19:55, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * Coffee! Just what I need. It's 7:05 am here and I just began checking WP! Getting ready for the big 24 hour blackout. Best wishes! --Greenmaven (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your copyedits, in which you carefully parsed the text and references, and painstakingly inserted all the punctuation that I was economical with. Much appreciated. -- Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 07:06, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome—the article was already in very good condition; it was an interesting read. --Greenmaven (talk) 07:10, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Just a note: unless I am mistaken, WP:MOSNUM states that dmy dates should be expressed without the comma in between the date and year. I have therefore removed these commas in the article accordingly. -- Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 09:30, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

2010 Nobel Peace Prize
Hi Greenmaven. As I believe this was your first FA-level copy edit, I had a look through. I hope you won't mind, but I've corrected some things and placed fairly explicit edit summaries to explain why. If there are any you are unclear about, please do raise them -- I'm watching this page. One thing I haven't reverted is your sytematic changes from ndash to mdash, but the Dash section in the Manual of Style allows either form so long as it's used consistently, and the lead in the MOS says "Where more than one style is acceptable, editors should not change an article from one of those styles to another without a substantial reason." Best regards, --Stfg (talk) 12:06, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. I will look at the article again. --Greenmaven (talk) 00:56, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Please take care in removing tags
Please see this version of an article you removed cleanup and copyedit tags from. Not only was almost the entire article a copyvio (direct cut-and-paste plagiarism)-- it was a copyvio from non-reliable sources (and the remaining sources are deadlinks). Although I removed most of the coypvio text, the text that remained still had copyedit and cleanup needs, including wikification and deadlinks. When attempting to copyedit, it is important to consult sources, and also review MOS issues such as wikification and removing external jumps from text-- otherwise, it would be better if you left tags in place until other editors can address the issues. Regards, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 14:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone has pointed out on another page the the copyvio was from a Spanish source. How is a non-Spanish speaker supposed to pick that up? --Greenmaven (talk) 21:14, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ask someone (like me, for instance) before you copyedit. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 17:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

It has again come to my attention via complete coincidence that you have copyedited another article that has likely plagiarism. Please understand that when you do this, you camouflage the problem, and further it. Please do a cursory check of sources before copyediting. [Tammar Wallaby. There are plenty of articles worthy of a copyedit (meaning there are correctly sourced and correctly paraphrase sources); if you don't check sources before copyediting, how do you know what you are leaving our readers? I understand that in the spirit of a content, and seeking a reward, you and others may be working quickly, but please make a cursory check for reliable sourcing and accurate representation of sources without plagiarism before doing work to polish an article in ways that will deceive our readers into thinking they're reading something representative of our Project's core pillars. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 17:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


 * SandyGeorgia, I think you've been a little bit unfair here. The only tag that Greenmaven removed from Ciudad Bolívar, as far as I can see, was the copy edit, and your own tagging of it is not above reproach -- "unreferenced" was false, even after the removal of the copyvio. I'm also a bit surprised at some of your edit summaries: what have "for gosh sakes" and "d'oh" (twice) got to do with anything? Have you taken issue with the (almost drive-by) tagger who asked for a copy edit of that article in September 2010? I can't find anything like it on their talk page.


 * Different people have different skills, and there's a real issue about what is fair to expect of copy editors. Please see, for example, what SMasters wrote in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Archives/2011/September -- sorry it's a long thread, but his key point begins with "Some people confuse copy editing with writing". Please see his immediate follow-up too. And, you know, random source checks don't always work, for two reasons: (a) For example, Giraffe (close paraphrasing -- I hope nothing worse): I copy edited that, and I did check a selection of sources, but noticed nothing amiss. Sorry, but unluckily I didn't happen on the ones that had the problems. And (b) Some copyvios are not of sources or external links. (I was working on such a case earlier today, as it happens, and I only spotted it because I saw in the history that the article creator had removed a db-copyvio tag minutes after it was added, and nobody had done anything about this.


 * Anyway, the copyright checking issue has been raised again on the GOCE talk page, at WT:GOCE. There will, I believe, be some who say that it's not a copy editor's problem, so your input there would be valuable. (My own belief, by the way, is that this problem belongs to all of us, but we need to build the solution into the system, and not necessarily rely on copy editors, who won't all have the right skill set). Best regards, Simon.


 * Greenmaven, apologies for this rather long-winded intrusion on to your talk page. I hope you'll show up at the GOCE talk page discussion too. Best, --Stfg (talk) 20:57, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Stfg—There is no need to apologise for being on my talk page. I welcome your input and am reading what you have pointed to, as well as thinking through the issues. I was aware on January 22 that Ciudad Bolívar had made it onto another talk page (Wikipedia talk:Featured articles/2012 RfC on FA leadership) and was being used to criticise the GOCE project. I had also read -"for gosh sakes" and "d'oh" (twice)- (and other sarcasm) and found it offensive. After seeing the level of conflict on 'RfC on FA leadership' and on Sandy's Talk Page, I decided to say nothing, at least until the end of January, and perhaps not at all. Now the editing of Tammar Wallaby is being raised, so I am returning to the issue. I need to read a few things (re COPYVIO and CE definitions and expectations) before commenting. I expect to have something to say on the GOCE talk page, as you have invited me. --Greenmaven (talk) 03:55, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yes, I'm reading those things too and thinking hard, in preparation for the presumably forthcoming discussion there. Ciao. --Stfg (talk) 11:00, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * I tried to clarify the problem phrases and did some further cleanup. Maybe is worth taking a second look. This article is absolutely central to WP:DACIA and I plan to do further work as it is still not where it should be. The usage of some terms like Sarmizegetusa/Sarmizegethusa, Roman Dacia/Roman-Dacia, as well as of different reference style will require a lot more cleanup. I think it was written by many users at different times. As a side note, do you know how to help with formatting and push some of the pictures up? I plan to add images for some of the kings but for some reason they are all pushed down. My turn to give you beer. Thanks! --Codrin.B (talk) 16:46, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the beer! I will take a look soon and get back to you on this page. --Greenmaven (talk) 19:12, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I have checked all your recent edits, which were excellent, especially the clarifications. I found one error only and fixed it. I thought there was a second error but then I could not find it again! There might be a tendency to overlink. Usually just the first instance is made into a link. However, in so large an article I believe it is helpful to the readers to have links repeated through the text, so they don't have to scroll back to find a link. I have not had time to look at the photos yet.
 * It's morning here, so I had to put the beer in the fridge for later. --Greenmaven (talk) 21:10, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * And thanks for the work on Carpi. Great cleanup! --Codrin.B (talk) 19:03, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: Hank Azaria
No problem, thanks for fixing my numerous errors! Gran2 00:34, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you - Madagascar copy edit
A big thank you to you for taking the time to review and copy edit the Madagascar article. Your edits have made it more readable and smooth. Well done. Cheers, Lemurbaby (talk) 04:27, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad you liked my edits! --Greenmaven (talk) 08:38, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hotel Polen fire
Thanks you for your corrections on the article. SpeakFree (talk)(contribs) 04:24, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Unjustified reversion of edits
I'm sorry, but your reversion of my edit to the Hotel Polen fire article was done in rather poor taste. First off, the article's main contributor solicited my involvement in copy-editing. What exactly about my edits was so counterproductive or ill-advised as to warrant a complete reversion? Your reasoning in the edit summary is also quite disparaging and borders WP:NPA. If, for future reference, you think my edits are indeed as defective as you made them out to be here, please notify me on my talk page and feel free to correct me where I'm wrong. Thanks,  Auree    ★  05:56, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I am sorry you are offended by my reversion of your edits. My reversion of your edits was justified, and I immediately followed the reversion by adding several of your phrases, which I thought were improvements, and acknowledged that they came from you. I had just done a very thorough revision of this article before you edited. Here are several examples of your edits that I oppose:


 * "6:30 am local time"—what other time would it be other than "local time"?
 * 1) "Exited the building" in place of "ran outside"—there's a fire in progress!! "exited" is far too formal here.
 * 2) "window openings"—no native speaker of English would use those words in this context. "window" is sufficient.
 * 3) "closure" of the cafe suggests that it may have ceased to operate as a business—no reason to believe that was the intended meaning. We never use "closure" when a business has closed up for the day.


 * The latter three examples suggested that, even though your English may be very good, you were not a native speaker; I checked and found it to be so. It's a fact. If you choose to to be offended by it, I cannot help that. I wrote 'non-native speaker of English' into the edit summary for the benefit of other editors to see why I had made the changes. I will be more careful in future; I have no wish to offend other editors. I did say your edits were "in good faith".


 * You also made stylistic changes that added nothing to the article and were mostly quite pointless. The last three errors I have listed above require a quite subtle knowledge of English, so you need not react defensively to my reversions. The fact that another editor asked you to edit is irrelevant. Your edits have to stand on their own merits. I will respond again, if you wish to discuss this further. I do not, and did not, mean to upset you or to make a personal attack. --Greenmaven (talk) 06:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I just think that my being a native speaker had little to do with anything, and that a complete reversion was unnecessary. That's the reason I inquired about the matter in the first place. As for the 2nd point: I think "ran outside" is suboptimal wording, although I can see why you'd consider "exited" too formal of a replacement. It's nothing more than an editorial disagreement. The 4th point was an honest mistake: the context made it sound like the cafe had in fact ceased its operation definitively, so I assumed this to be the case -- again, it had nothing to do with the fact that I'm not a native speaker. Regardless of your actions, I too apologize for taking them with a grain of salt; it's hard to interpret one's motives correctly over the Internet. I'd like to retract my accusation of it being a personal attack, and hope we can write it off as a precedent for similar situations in the future. Cheers,  Auree    ★  17:20, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately an 'edit summary' requires us to be brief, and this may lead to an appearance of rudeness or insensitivity. I have been thinking more about this and hoping we would not be embroiled in a long argument. So I am relieved to read your conciliatory words as I begin my day. I should have taken the time to alter each of the phrases (the ones I listed) where I believed you had made the article worse, and left the rest as equivalent ways of saying the same things. None of us likes to see our efforts to improve WP undone by others. I was hasty in reverting your entire edit. I hope you can see that I also felt that your edit was undoing my thorough revision of the article. Having this conversation with you has taken vastly more time than if I had taken a little more care and time in the first place and not dealt with it by reverting you. So that has been a useful lesson for me. My edit summary— "reverted good faith edits by non-native speaker of english"—was actually intended to mean "I realise that you have tried to improve this article (good faith) but in fact you have made it worse because you (as a non-native speaker) do not completely understand idiomatic English usage". It was intended as an explanation not as a criticism.


 * On the second point: I still think "ran outside" is perfect wording in the context of a fire. It is a completely believable and accurate description of what was happening.
 * On point four: the pre-existing text was ambiguous; You took one meaning; I took another; your interpretation might be the correct one. In the absence of other evidence I thought my interpretation was the more likely to be true. It is certainly something that needs clarification.


 * Conflicts seem to be an unavoidable part of being an editor. I don't like them at all. But, handled properly, they can be very instructive. I have profited from this exchange with you and will be more careful in future. I hope you are no longer upset. By the way :) I think your "grain of salt" comment above is saying the exact opposite of what you intend. :) :) My best regards --Greenmaven (talk) 19:04, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It's all good. Thank you for your understanding and taking the time to reply as graciously as you did. I'd like to believe that my English has greatly improved over the past few years--and Wikipedia and its community of kind editors such as yourself have certainly helped a great deal. Nevertheless, we're all human, so it'd be great if you could give me some pointers here and there if you ever see any recurring errors in my edits. Thanks again,  Auree    ★  21:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If I see any problems in future I will leave a comment on your Talk Page. Yes—we are all human—it's the Problem and the Solution! Bye --Greenmaven (talk) 00:44, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I need your help, please!
Dear friend, HI. I apreciated your note in the Discussion about Schism of Montaner. I made the page as Anonymus. Now I'm writing as Inter Account from Wiki.LA, but I prefer to use my nick Rei Momo.

Please, I made the page Abdelmajid Lakhal but soon someone put advices that the page is uncorrect, can you help me, please, to write it better? My english is good, but not enoght to write well on Wiki.EN.

Thanks a lot for your help!

Rex Momo (talk) 08:39, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I have edited the article and left some comments on the article Talk Page. Best wishes --Greenmaven (talk) 01:19, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your help! Have a nice w.e. Rex Momo (talk) 08:37, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Tammar again
I did some re-paraphasing for the article. Can you check for any more potential prose issues? LittleJerry (talk) 21:22, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage engagement strategy released
Hey guys!

I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox -.

It's awesome to finally get to start work on this! :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 02:49, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Page Triage newsletter
Hey guys!

Thanks to all of you who have commented on the New Page Triage talkpage. If you haven't had a chance yet, check it out; we're discussing some pretty interesting ideas, both from the Foundation and the community, and moving towards implementing quite a few of them :).

In addition, on Tuesday 13th March, we're holding an office hours session in #wikimedia-office on IRC at 19:00 UTC (11am Pacific time). If you can make it, please do; we'll have a lot of stuff to show you and talk about, including (hopefully) a timetable of when we're planning to do what. If you can't come, for whatever reason, let me know on my talkpage and I'm happy to send you the logs so you can get an idea of what happened :). Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:46, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage newsletter
Hey all!

Thanks to everyone who attended our first office hours session; the logs can be found here, if you missed it, and we should be holding a second one on Thursday, 22 March 2012 at 18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. I hope to see you all there :).

In the meantime, I have greatly expanded the details available at New Page Triage: there's a lot more info about precisely what we're planning. If you have ideas, and they aren't listed there, bring them up and I'll pass them on to the developers for consideration in the second sprint. And if you know anyone who might be interested in contributing, send them there too!

Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

help triage some feedback
Hey guys.

I appreciate this isn't quite what you signed up for, but I figured as people who are already pretty good at evaluating whether material is useful or not useful through Special:NewPages, you might be interested :). Over the last few months we've been developing the new Article Feedback Tool, which features a free text box. it is imperative that we work out in advance what proportion of feedback is useful or not so we can adjust the design accordingly and not overwhelm you with nonsense.

This is being done through the Feedback Evaluation System (FES), a tool that lets editors run through a stream of comments, selecting their value and viability, so we know what type of design should be promoted or avoided. We're about to start a new round of evaluations, beginning with an office hours session tomorrow at 18:00 UTC. If you'd like to help preemptively kill poor feedback, come along to #wikimedia-office and we'll show you how to use the tool. If you can't make it, send me an email at or drop a note on my talkpage, and I'm happy to give you a quick walkthrough in a one-on-one session :).

All the best, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:33, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

A big NPT update
Hey! Big update on what the developers have been working on, and what is coming up:

coding
 * Fixes for the "moved pages do not show up in Special:NewPages" and "pages created from redirects do not show up in Special:NewPages" bugs have been completed and signed off on. Unfortunately we won't be able to integrate them into the existing version, but they will be worked into the Page Triage interface.
 * Coding has been completed on three elements; the API for displaying metadata about the article in the "list view", the ability to keep the "patrol" button visible if you edit an article before patrolling it, and the automatic removal of deleted pages from the queue. All three are awaiting testing but otherwise complete.

All other elements are either undergoing research, or about to have development started. I appreciate this sounds like we've not got through much work, and truthfully we're a bit disappointed with it as well; we thought we'd be going at a faster pace :(. Unfortunately there seems to be some 24-72 hour bug sweeping the San Francisco office at the moment, and at one time or another we've had several devs out of it. It's kind of messed with workflow.

Stuff to look at

We've got a pair of new mockups to comment on that deal with the filtering mechanism; this is a slightly updated mockup of the list view, and this is what the filtering tab is going to look like. All thoughts, comments and suggestions welcome on the NPT talkpage :). I'd also like to thank the people who came to our last two office hours sessions; the logs will be shortly available here.

I've also just heard that the first functional prototype for enwiki will be deployed mid-April! Really, really stoked to see this happening :). We're finding out if we can stick something up a bit sooner on prototype.wiki or something.

I appreciate there may be questions or suggestions where I've said "I'll find out and get back to you" and then, uh. not ;p. I sincerely apologise for that: things have been a bit hectic at this end over the last few weeks. But if you've got anything I've missed, drop me a line and I'll deal with it! Further questions or issues to the usual address. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 17:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

User:Mistress9
Hi, Jack Greenmaven. The article you discovered at User:Mistress9 has now been tagged for speedy deletion. It does not appear to be factual; there's nothing at Google that indicates the company exists, and the financial information is sourced to Christian Dior. Mistress9 is one of a series of accounts that appear to have been opened by the same person, and User:SarahStierch has opened a sockpuppet investigation. I expect the user is quite young and has a sketchy understanding of how Wikipedia is supposed to work. Thanks for bringing this matter to our attention. -- Dianna (talk) 14:59, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Vellankoil
Hello Jack Greenmaven. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Vellankoil, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: subject is clear, and inhabited places are generally considered notable. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 12:04, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Live at the Machine Shop
Hi. I've declined your speedy request on this as it's an DVD not a band. The speedy for recordings doesn't apply either, as the band does have an article. I'd suggest PROD or AfD if you feel it really is not of note. Peridon (talk) 10:00, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

refimprove
When I clean up a Notable people list page, I leave that header on if there are notable people needing verification that they have a notable connection to the town. With the List of people from Oak Park, Illinois there are well over 20 people that I could not verify their connection to the town from their biography page. I see that refimprove header as an encouragement to remedy this. Dkriegls (talk) 03:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. Feel free to undo my edit. Let me know you have read this. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 04:04, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Cheers :) Dkriegls (talk) 04:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Extacskó- the new editor of enwiki
Hello, my southern friend! I'am a new guy on enwiki, because I'm the co-editor of the Hungarian WP. I try to translate as much pages as I can about Australia because it is one of my favourite countires (from the 200 other countries :)) ). Now I am working with the suburbs of Canberra and I hope I will finish it till the end of this month. This is my special own "project" which is the part of a bigger 'Australia project'. If I would had any problems I would asked you. (Sorry, the grammer is not my strength.)Full of respectExtacskó (talk) 20:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Hasan Egilmez
Dear Mr Jack, the person is a public person in professional football and has many proofs with official news on newspapers cant understand why thos speedy deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobogol32 (talk • contribs) 10:53, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Kenny Solomons
Hello Jack Greenmaven, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Kenny Solomons, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''"He is known for his role" is an assertion of importance. True not all actors are notable, but if this one isn't then AFD would be the place to decide that.''' You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  11:30, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Kari Berg
Hi Jack, I have removed the speedy deletion tag from Kari Berg, being a singer in a notable band (in this case Ashbury Heights) is a reasonable assertion of importance. If you still think it should be deleted, try the proposed deletion or articles for deletion process. Cheers, --kelapstick(bainuu) 04:47, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Twins Nete
Hi Jack, how are you? Me I'm fine. Sorry, I'm asking only 5 minutes of your precious time to read-correct this new page I've mcreated, because, as you know my English is very porr! If you want I can create a page in Portuguese for you. Thank you for your precious help! Rex Momo (talk) 17:53, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I have checked it and made some changes. --Greenmaven (talk) 05:10, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help! Sincerely Rex Momo (talk) 06:41, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * OPS, I was forgetting: in your opinion is better Twins Nete or Nete Twins? Rex Momo (talk) 07:04, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * In English we would say 'the Nete Twins'. I left it earlier because they might have been known as the Twins Nete. I would move the article to 'Nete Twins' with a redirect from 'Twins Nete'. I think moving it does an automatic redirect. Do you want me to do it for you? --Greenmaven (talk) 07:10, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Fundageek
Jack: you 'patrolled' FundaGeek article. Thank you for your assistance. I'm trying to correct all the issues but need all the help I can get because at best I'm a tourist on wikipedia. I believe FundaGeek should have an Article because it is an innovative site in the crowdfunding industry. It is to Inventors & Science Researchers that Kickstarter is to artists. Again, thanks for your help. NSAIN1947 (talk) 16:37, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. --Greenmaven (talk) 02:22, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Grays Rule
Sorry, but you may not replace a PROD once removed, even by an IP, even if no reason given - see WP:DEPROD. The reason is that PROD is intended only for uncontroversial deletions, and any removal means it has become controversial. This has to go, though, so I have taken it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:25, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Rated Oh!
Hello Jack Greenmaven. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Rated Oh!, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''TV shows do not fall under A7. Will convert to PROD.''' Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 13:30, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Joel Pelletier
Hello Jack Greenmaven. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Joel Pelletier, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: original article was deleted, this new article is not substantially identical. Thank you. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:22, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Australian Graphic Design Association
Hi. :) I just wanted to let you know that when closing this listing, I saw your note at the article talk page: "Check out the edit which created this article. It appears to have been created by an employee of the association; therefore created under the authority of the copyright holder." We recognize this possibility, but unfortunately without verification we can't retain the article. The contributor was contacted and told how to verify, but unfortunately has not yet followed up. At any point he does, we can and will restore the article. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for looking into this and telling me. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 23:33, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

RE: Karmal
Sorry.... :) --TIAYN (talk) 08:17, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

New Pages update
Hey :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.

On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).

On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Aaah! Just what I needed after a long editing session! --Greenmaven (talk) 03:38, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage prototype released
Hey Jack Greenmaven! We've finally finished the NPT prototype and deployed it on enwiki. We'll be holding an office hours session on the 16th at 21:00 in #wikimedia-office to show it off, get feedback and plot future developments - hope to see you there! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:32, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! :)
Thanks for copyediting the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan article + all the other requests you've copyedited. Thanks. --TIAYN (talk) 11:08, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Cora Coralina
Hi my friend, how are you? I worked on this page and I clena-up a little. Please, I ask your hepl, 2-3 minutes, to read you took, to see if all it's ok!

Thank you for your precious help

Rex Momo (talk) 21:55, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I am fine. You can do me a favor. If you tag the article as needing a 'copyedit' I can count it towards the copyediting drive (competition) that I am working on this month. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 22:09, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, I understood, but I don't know what I have to do to tag the page as needing copyediting. Rex Momo (talk) 11:00, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Just add a line to the top of the article containing the word copyedit enclosed in two of these pairs of braces {} (see my example by editing this line) --Greenmaven (talk) 22:11, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I have done the CE. Note: I have unlinked all the years because this is now discouraged on WP unless there is a particularly good reason. I am happy to have helped you with this. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 00:50, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! Rex Momo (talk) 09:47, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Infobox musical artist
For future reference, please note that the "background" field in Infobox musical artist uses pre-defined values such as "solo_singer" and "non_performing_personnel", which are case- and punctuation-sensitive, and this is one case where converting the underscores to spaces and capitalizing the first letter is not helpful. — Paul A (talk) 02:56, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks for letting me know. --Greenmaven (talk) 03:17, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Sole nudo
Hi Jack, how are you? I made this new page of an Italo-Brazilian film. I put, as you requested for Cora Coralina, the need edit.

Please, when you'll have 2 minutes, can you read the page for me? I thank you very much, and have a nice week-end.

Rex Momo (talk) 06:45, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Please read it through, as I may have misinterpreted your meaning (about the waiter especially, and the friend who helps: helps to leave Rome or helps to find a job?)


 * ✅ too. I think that now it's clarer! Thanks a lot and have a nice week-end! Rex Momo (talk) 07:50, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Folding machine
Hi; thanks for copyediting the article! I'm acting as one of the reviewers for this drive, and I reviewed this copyedit. Overall, good job, although I found a few more things - just as you probably would if you went over one of my copyedits! Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 03:59, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You have done nice job. --Greenmaven (talk) 04:34, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you, Jack, for my first Barnstar! Seeing that certainly made me smile :-) Avory (talk) 16:11, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it may be the first barnstar I have ever given. --Greenmaven (talk) 22:29, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage/New Pages Feed
Hey all :). A notification that the prototype for the New Pages Feed is now live on enwiki! We had to briefly take it down after an unfortunate bug started showing up, but it's now live and we will continue developing it on-site.

The page can be found at Special:NewPagesFeed. Please, please, please test it and tell us what you think! Note that as a prototype it will inevitably have bugs - if you find one not already mentioned at the talkpage, bring it up and I'm happy to carry it through to the devs. The same is true of any additions you can think of to the software, or any questions you might have - let me know and I'll respond.

Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:15, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Can't use CURRENTxxx like that
Hi Jack. Sorry to hit you with this, but I noticed it because of this change. If you use CURRENTMONTHNAME, CURRENTDAY and CURRENTYEAR in template calls like that, they will update each day thereafter. Have a look at an article's talk page that you updated some days ago, like Talk:Shahapur to see what I mean. You need to give the date longhand, I'm afraid. Kind rgds, --Stfg (talk) 12:42, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. I will fix them after the drive. --Greenmaven (talk) 19:07, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed them all – there were about 50. Let me know you got this message. --Greenmaven (talk) 04:22, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it. Thanks for doing that. --Stfg (talk) 09:39, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Sascha Zacharias
Hi Jack, how are you? Please, forgive me, but you are the only friend I've on Wiki.EN, and I'm asking your precious help to correct this page I've just made. My English is very poor, and I ask if you have 8-10 minutes to correct the page.

I thank you very very much.

Sincerely

Rex Momo (talk) 21:39, 11 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I will do it today, perhaps in the next four hours. I am just going out for coffee. What is your time-zone? UTC + 1? --Greenmaven (talk) 22:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC) ✅ Please unlink the years before I look at articles for you, as we discussed previously, e.g. 1920 should be 1920, unless there is a particularly good reason for linking to it. --Greenmaven (talk) 02:22, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot! And forgive me for the link of the years, my old memory (... ah ah ah) sometimes jokes about me. I live in Caselle Landi, yes UTC +1. You can watch my personal page on Wiki.IT at Rei Momo. Thanks a lot for your help!


 * Rex Momo (talk) 07:18, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Help Survey
Hi there, my name's Peter Coombe and I'm a Wikimedia Community Fellow working on a project to improve Wikipedia's help system. At the moment I'm trying to learn more about how people use and find the current help pages. If you could help by filling out this brief survey about your experiences, I'd be very grateful. It should take less than 10 minutes, and your responses will not be tied to your username in any way.

Thank you for your time,

the wub (talk) 18:14, 14 June 2012 (UTC) (Delivered using Global message delivery)

GOCE drive format
Hi. Your original proposal for a discussion of the drive incentives was made in the context of a discussion about counting articles that were GOCEreviewed instead of copyedited. Do you want to make any suggestion about that or anything in that area? Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 13:32, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I will have to look back at how my suggestion arose. --Greenmaven (talk) 13:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I will contribute more on the drive discussion, but must go to bed now. This all about Quality Assurance and there may be something to be learned, at a philosophical level, from W. Edwards Deming, whom I discovered some years back. You made a good summary of the issues around the reviewed articles and I want to say more when I have had time to think. --Greenmaven (talk) 14:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I read the Deming article. He's new to me, and I guess I'd need to read more before seeing ways to apply his thinking. All your suggestions are welcome and helpful. Please do keep 'em coming. Best, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 16:40, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I have not had time to read the article myself. Still trying to read one of the old conversations you pointed us to, and to even read closely some of the thoughts on the Guild T page. Real life is pressing in on me a bit more than usual. What did you think of my comment on the 'purpose' column on the table of reviewed articles. My meaning may have been unclear or just thought to be unnecessarily fussy? Regards Jack --Greenmaven (talk) 22:39, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with it (though we may need to add FL and DYK to the list of opening characters). It's clear and not at all fussy :) The reasons why I haven't followed up on it yet are partly that I'm giving priority to agreeing how the drive should be, and partly that I want to let Allens lead on this, because that may make it easier for him to produce the new program he's talking about. There are some discussions to have about how to detect and report the progress of articles done, too. Meanwhile, are you happy with the way the drive format discussions are going? I probably need to close them and create the drive page in a couple of days. Regards, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 17:50, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Close it when you need to. I am not sure when I can think some more and add something. We made progress. --Greenmaven (talk) 13:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, we did, and I thank you for it. We can, of course, discuss further after we see how this one goes. Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 14:12, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your careful eye!
Thanks for repairing the mess that I made of that sentence in the Abraham Maslow article. I thought I was making the sentence more straightforward, but instead I really mucked it up by leaving in an extra word. EricEnfermero Howdy! 17:47, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You are welcome! --Greenmaven (talk) 21:48, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Moretta (coffee)
Hi, my dear Greenmaven, how are you? Here is too hot.

Please, I ask you if you have 5 minutes to read, correct this new page I just made. It's a tipical hot drink of Fano.

Thank you for your precious help, have a nice week end.

Rex Momo (talk) 07:53, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I have had a look at it. Could you put a tag on it to say it requires copyediting? The simplest way of doing that is to use Twinkle or to add to the top of the article page. I am not doing much editing this month because of other commitments, but I will do Moretta for you. Please tag articles like this for me. --Greenmaven (talk) 11:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have added further changes to the other editor's work, whose help you requested. --Greenmaven (talk) 06:20, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! Rex Momo (talk) 12:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes the Australian War Memorial
Hi. You're invited to the Wikipedia Takes the Australian War Memorial on 25 August. --LauraHale (talk) 00:33, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Page Triage newsletter
Hey all. Some quick but important updates on what we've been up to and what's coming up next :).

The curation toolbar, our Wikimedia-supported twinkle replacement. We're going to be deploying it, along with a pile of bugfixes, to wikipedia on 9 August. After a few days to check it doesn't make anything explode or die, we'll be sticking up a big notice and sending out an additional newsletter inviting people to test it out and give us feedback :). This will be followed by two office hours sessions - one on Tuesday the 14th of August at 19:00 UTC for all us Europeans, and one on Wednesday the 15th at 23:00 UTC for the East Coasters out there :). As always, these will be held in #wikimedia-office; drop me a note if you want to know how to easily get on IRC, or if you aren't able to attend but would like the logs.

I hope to see a lot of you there; it's going to be a big day for everyone involved, I think :). I'll have more notes after the deployment! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 19:55, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

New Pages newsletter
Hey all :)

A couple of new things.

First, you'll note that all the project titles have now changed to the Page Curation prefix, rather than having the New Pages Feed prefix. This is because the overarching project name has changed to Page Curation; the feed is still known as New Pages Feed, and the Curation Toolbar is still the Curation Toolbar. Hopefully this will be the last namechange ;p.

On the subject of the Curation Toolbar (nice segue, Oliver!) - it's now deployed on Wikipedia. Just open up any article in the New Pages Feed and it should appear on the right. It's still a beta version - bugs are expected - and we've got a lot more work to do. But if you see something going wrong, or a feature missing, drop me a note or post on the project talkpage and I'll be happy to help :). We'll be holding two office hours sessions to discuss the tool and improvements to it; the first is at 19:00 UTC on 14 August, and the second at 23:00 on the 15th. Both will be in #wikimedia-office as always. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:00, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 barnstar

 * Congratulations!
 * All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 17:41, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Copy editing "Request"
Hi Jack!

I have been working on the "request" over the past few days – did not get onto it for a while, as I didn't fancy the subject, a popular song (I could fall in love) – but now, having started, have enjoyed it.

Wondered, if you are not too busy, if you would cast your more experienced eye over my editing here – every revision has a fairly explicit edit summary.

Kind regards,

-- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:10, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Gareth. I am about to walk out the door. I have had a quick scan of your changes and did not see anything to criticise. With more time I might find additional things that could be done. I think your edit summaries are more detailed than most editors would write—fine if you are happy to put in the effort. I tend to put only: "grammar; spelling; word order; word choice" and so forth. Best wishes. Have to fly --Greenmaven (talk) 22:27, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Really is kind of you to take the trouble of replying right now and taking the time out to look them over. Hope I have not made you run late.  All the best,  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:37, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

La Madrague (song)
Hi Jack, how are you? I put, as you sayd to me, the to this page I've just made. I ask you, please, when you have 5 minutes, to read and correct all my mistakes of my poor English, ok?

Thank you very much for your precious help!

Rex Momo (talk) 21:07, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * traveling - several hours away from home now - having breakfast in a motel in Wellington, New South Wales. --Greenmaven (talk) 21:42, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Keeping up with technology
Just spotted your addition (August 27) on your User page. Well done! All the best! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 22:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I know what you mean about "... seems a little awkward at first ...", because I bought a Sony vaio notebook on July 15 this year. Only ever used a conventional PC up until then.  The touchpad drove me 'mad' for the first week or two.

Page Curation update
Hey all :). We've just deployed another set of features for Page Curation. They include flyouts from the icons in Special:NewPagesFeed, showing who reviewed an article and when, a listing of this in the "info" flyout, and a general re-jigging of the info flyout - we've also fixed the weird bug with page_titles_having_underscores_instead_of_spaces in messages sent to talkpages, and introduced CSD logging! As always, these features will need some work - but any feedback would be most welcome.

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Page Curation newsletter
Hey. This will be, if not our final newsletter, one of the final ones :). After months of churning away at this project, our final version (apart from a few tweaks and bugfixes) is now live. Changes between this and the last release include deletion tag logging, a centralised log, and fixes to things like edit summaries.

Hopefully you like what we've done with the place; suggestions for future work on it, complaints and bugs to the usual address :). We'll be holding a couple of office hours sessions, which I hope you'll all attend. Many thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:57, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Brazilian Military Cemetery of Pistoia
Hi Jack, how are you? Here Autumn is started, sinff-sniff...

Please, if you have 5 minutes, I ask you to correct this new page I just made, can you? I put also copy-edit. Thanks a lot for your precious help.

Rex Momo (talk) 12:32, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Francesco Buzzurro
Hi, dear Jack, how are you? I made this little page, little! Please, can you watch for me if everything is good?

I thank you very much for your help

Rex Momo (talk) 10:27, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter - closing up!
Hey all :).

We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.

However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.

Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:02, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

This is not a newsletter
This is just a tribute.

Anyway. You're getting this note because you've participated in discussion and/or asked for updates to either the Article Feedback Tool or Page Curation. This isn't about either of those things, I'm afraid ;p. We've recently started working on yet another project: Echo, a notifications system to augment the watchlist. There's not much information at the moment, because we're still working out the scope and the concepts, but if you're interested in further updates you can sign up here.

In addition, we'll be holding an office hours session at 21:00 UTC on Wednesday, 14 November in #wikimedia-office - hope to see you all there :). I appreciate it's an annoying time for non-Europeans: if you're interested in chatting about the project but can't make it, give me a shout and I can set up another session if there's enough interest in one particular timezone or a skype call if there isn't. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:02, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Petals Around the Rose for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Petals Around the Rose is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Petals Around the Rose until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.
 * I notice you nominated this page for proposed deletion back in April, it has recently been undeleted, and I have proposed deletion with discussion. I am notifying you as you may be interested in contributing to the discussion. Have a great day. -- Patchy1  09:03, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

A little help, my dear friend...
My dearest Jack, please, I ask you a little help. Please: can you go in my Talk Page and try to understabd whatìs the advice that's arriving to me? I tried to go unto the link, but I don't want to make trobles, please, can you help me? It will take you anly 2 minutes, please...

Thank you very much, ... have a nice week-end!!!

Rex Momo (talk) 12:13, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

This might help you understand Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones / The Welsh Buzzard 13:10, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello Rex Momo,


 * Rex, you seem to be getting plenty of help on this one, so I will stay out of it--Greenmaven (talk) 02:08, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Charles Barber (brigadier)
FYI, Mary Winifred Ware Hickling Forbes was his wife - not his mother; Kate Fitzherbert's edit was correct. Given that the original name had no supporting reference either, I think it may have been more appropriate to ask Ms Fitzherbert for her reason(s), rather than accuse her of vandalism. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 04:27, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I have been monitoring the first edits of new users, many of which are vandalism. I was a bit hasty in this case. --Greenmaven (talk) 04:41, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Yes, you're correct, many first edits of new users are vandalism. (e.g. this guy, who is now blocked.) Pdfpdf (talk) 04:53, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the barnstar, and the associated smile. Pdfpdf (talk) 04:55, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

I notice you don't mention you used BASIC, so I've copied my version of Floquenbeam's Punch card to User:Jack Greenmaven/Floquenbeam's Punch card so you can customise it to your heart's desire. (Just go to the page and edit it.) I shamelessly stole it from User:Floquenbeam/Punch card, translated it into Australian, and personalised it. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 07:31, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello Jack
Hello Jack,

I see you restored a photo on the page for Lucy Lambert Hale. The reason I took it off is because it it not her. It is actually Harriet Lane. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spotlightandpen (talk • contribs) 04:25, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I have been monitoring the first edits of new editors. No reason was given for removing the photo, either in the 'edit summary' or on the talk page, so I suspected its removal: many first time editors are irresponsible. Can I suggest that you put your reason (above) onto the 'talk page' for the article, and remove the photo again? I will add a message on your talk page that I hope will be useful. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 04:35, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Please let me know here that you have read this. --Greenmaven (talk) 04:37, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jack,

I saw your comment and I just added the above explanation to the Talk Page. I didn't know editing articles entailed so much, but I’m glad there are people like you who can show the way. Thanks for helping me learn the correct way to edit :) All the best. (still don't know how to sign) -spotlightandpen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spotlightandpen (talk • contribs) 22:45, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Regarding my contributions to Union (set theory)
You are wrong. My contributions to the Union(set theory) was constructive. Change it back now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.204.254.102 (talk) 05:03, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The edits I reverted were clear vandalism. As you are an IP editor I am not sure whether you are same editor who made the edits. No change. --Greenmaven (talk) 05:18, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

STiki
AGF in this context stands for 'although the edit was probably made in "good faith" we have reverted it because it does not appear to be constructive'. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones / The Welsh Buzzard 13:14, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Gareth: thanks for your message of concern about my health. I am recovering and doing most things. I have let go of two voluntary activities that had become onerous. Getting back to WP editing as a good non-physical way of being active and useful. I discovered STiki by following through on some work you had done with it. Thanks. --Greenmaven (talk) 18:31, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad to know that. I did post this – and now I wonder whether or not you noticed  it.  I love my VAIO now.  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones / The Welsh Buzzard 19:23, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes - I did notice it. I am also hooked by my iPad. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 19:27, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I have added "my" note to the article page, following your suggestion this morning. All the best!  -- Gareth Griffith-Jones / The Welsh Buzzard 19:39, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Good move! --Greenmaven (talk) 19:44, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Cobra (comics)
I note that you reverted my split of this article, but did not leave any explanation apart from the fact that you had used Stiki to do so. Your reversion left Wikipedia in a poorer state than both before you made your edit and I made the split because: 1) The long standing split tag that I was addressing still remained unaddressed. 2) The articles that I had created were left cluttering up the place. i.e. if you are going to revert, please do it properly and if someone has tried to address a problem then at least show some willing to resolve the problem e.g. by suggesting another way. Op47 (talk) 19:14, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I apologise for interfering in your work. I was not aware that you were in the process of splitting an article. It looked like a wholesale removal of content. I hope you can restore the article and continue with your split. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 19:31, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Book of Revelation/Stiki
I thing something obviously went wrong with this edit. I don't use Stiki so don't know what you'd need to look out for to prevent it happening again. DeCausa (talk) 10:34, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have had a look at the history and am also mystified. Maybe there was some kind of edit conflict. The article seems to have had the vandalism fixed now. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 10:48, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Danish Pastry
Hi Jack

I am a Dane who is new to Wikipedia! I tried to change the Danish Pastry text as I have found som errors in it.

For instance authentic Danish Pastry is not made with butter but margarine! In Denmark there is developed a special margarine only for Danish Pastry. Butter is used in the French croissant. The authentic Danish Pastry is a laminated dough with margarine and the other fats you write about are used in many "copy" products in other countries, where the dough are sometimes not even laminated.

Also: It is a Danish invention - the Vienna influence is the lamination tecnique. The Danes called it "Wienerbrød" (Vienna bread) lovingly acknowledges the Viennese for their contribution. And at that time in Denmark allmost all baked goods was called something "excotic". For instance a plain wheet flour bread is called "Franskbrød" (French bread) even though it has almost nothing to do with the French baguette.

There are quite a lot about this online but most is in Danish. The Danish bakery Mette Munk has some info in english on their site: www.mettemunk.dk They where the first company to export the frozen Danish Pastry to the UK and USA and are still producing.

I hope you will either let me correct/add theise facts or add them yourselves to make the site correct.

Thank you!

/Wienerbrødsfan (Danish Pastry Fan) Wienerbrødsfan (talk) 12:06, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You seem to be genuinely trying to improve this article and may have knowledge that would be useful. However I have reverted your edits because there were numerous errors of spelling and grammar. Another editor has started to revert your edits too. This should make it clear that you are doing unacceptable work. I will 'watch' the page and see whether I can do something more constructive than just undo what you have done. It may take me a day or two. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 19:30, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I have edited to article for you. The easiest way to see what changes I have made is to look at the "history" of the article. If you want further changes made, let me know on my talk page (here). I am going to add some useful links to your Talk Page now. You may also find it useful or interesting to read the Article Talk Page --Greenmaven (talk) 01:57, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

From an IP
Sir, It was a mistake from my side. i did it, based on a wrong information. thank you for correcting me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.141.199.212 (talk) 06:37, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Concerning "Women in Egypt"
I edited that article due to the duplication of some of the sections; specifically 'Women in ancient Egypt' and 'Modern Status', which as you can see, have been repeated verbatim. If you would kindly undo your editing, it would be very much appreciated.
 * Done. Thanks for pointing that out. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 08:24, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Neon Genesis Evangelion Manga
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that, in regards to the Neon Genesis Evangelion manga (page here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_chapters) the licensed title for the 12th volume, for the Viz edition at least, is not "Father and Son," but rather "Ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath." My source being the Viz manga website itself (Volume 12 is here http://www.vizmanga.com/reader/1180-neon-genesis-evangelion-12), and the licensed names of the other volumes on the wiki page in question are also consistent with the volume names given on the Viz manga website (for example Volume 13 (http://www.vizmanga.com/reader/1199-neon-genesis-evangelion-13), "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun") I just wanted to let you know that my edit of Neon Genesis Evangelion manga page had constructive intents, as it was meant to rectify the issue of the 12th volume not having the correct license title like the other volumes did. 70.183.52.31 (talk) 10:03, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * My mistake it seems. I was trying to protect the article but did not see that there had been an earlier title. Please feel free to restore the words "Ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath." Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 18:55, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Tengu
You incorrectly edited the page "Tengu". It is not "heavenly phoenix" it is heavenly dog. If you don't believe me, search the characters in a dictionary, the gu of tengu is spelled "狗" and in every case it's used it means "dog" except for the case of 狗鷲 which, in this case, the character is read as "inu" (which, again, is a word for dog) and it's the name of an eagle species. Typically the character "凰" is used in words to describe a phoenix (a Chinese phoenix) and "不死鳥" is a typical western phoenix. As well, the word "tenryuu" 転流 means to drift and has no connection to the word "tengu". In Japanese "tenryuu" would not be written as such and then pronounced "tengu". Tengu is written formally as 天狗 and in hiragana is てんぐ (literally te-n-gu) and tenryuu is てんりゅう. I know that tengu are represented as birds of prey, but the kanji does not lose it's initial meaning. The characters literally mean that, even if such is not the case. KrissGrace (talk) 15:24, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Good to see you have restored the article. Thank you for your erudition. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 18:46, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Cahokia edits
I submitted what I thought were helpful suggestions to the Cahokia article. The edits were rejected using STiki minutes later with not explanation. Can you elaborate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spanishdancer2460 (talk • contribs) 21:04, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * See WP:ERA, our policy on this, where it says :"Do not change the established era style in an article unless there are reasons specific to its content. Seek consensus on the talk page before making the change. Open the discussion under a subhead that uses the word "era". Briefly state why the style is inappropriate for the article in question. A personal or categorical preference for one era style over the other is not justification for making a change."  He  iro 21:19, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Heiro. --Greenmaven (talk) 22:07, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Mughal Army
Hi, did you read the user's taslk page before reverting me at Mughal Army? Amongst other things from me on that page is a talkback to User talk:Sitush. is going to have a word because the contribution in its present form is a bit troublesome. - Sitush (talk) 21:21, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I've reverted you for now. This situation will get resolved but reinstating that plagiarised content complete with an AFC submission template was wrong. All should be fixed within the next 24 hours and, yes, the original contributor is being understanding about it. No harm done. - Sitush (talk) 21:28, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I have read the Talk Page entry and will leave the article alone—to be resolved by others. It seemed to me that a great deal of useful information was being deleted. I was a bit hasty. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 22:15, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries. There are loads of sources for the subject matter and the problem will be fixed. The article has had a troubled history re: outright copyvios and since they were revision-deleted it is impossible for anyone but an admin to track back beyond that point. It also covers an area of Indian and Islamic history that is notoriously subject to pov-warriors, vandalism etc. Nearly as bad as the articles concerning the Maratha people who were so influential in turning over the Mughals. Given enough time, even sewage can be turned into something useful ;) Best wishes and keep up the anti-vandalism work. - Sitush (talk) 00:38, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

The Deuce (singer) Article
(11-29-12) Dear Jack, Hi it's me Eelz. I saw the comment you sent me about my edits on the Deuce article. I would like you to know that I am aware that Deuce didn't cause Rwandan Genocide. It was an inside joke between me and my friend from school. I also noticed on the article that you removed "The White Obama" from his nicknames section. I think you could have kept it there seeing as how he says that he's the White Obama in his song called "Help Me".

From, (Eelz)
 * Thanks for contacting me and letting me know about this. OK—put White Obama in again—but leave out the genocide comment. This is an encyclopaedia that everyone in the world can benefit from; everyone is worse off if it becomes less reliable. Best wishes --Greenmaven (talk) 02:12, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Pirate Party of India
I have nominated the article for AfD. My reasons are on its talk-entry. I resent your imputation I am a vandal. TheSmuttyProfessor (talk) 10:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You registered as an editor about five days ago and at least five editors have reverted your edits, even though your edit total is only 35. At least three editors consider you to be vandalising. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 18:53, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Orlando Drummond
Hi Jack, how are you? I made this new page of the Brazilian voice of Scooby Doo, Gargamel and Oliver Hardy. Please, can you take 5 minutes of your precious time to read for me?

Thanks a lot, and happy week end.

Rex Momo (talk) 16:40, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Made some changes. Is this "Seu Peru dans l'émission Escolinha do Professor Raimundo" one piece of work or two?—unclear. Also - it is a short article and I would make "Participations" into a list, as for the preceding section. Best wishes --Greenmaven (talk) 19:04, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thnak youuuuu, dans l'emission means in the series of, as I sayd also to Alexius. I corrected it. Thanks again for your help. Rex Momo (talk) 19:38, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Reversion of my changes
Hello, you just reverted my change here. I undid your reversion and posted on the talk page why I did this. Can you check again? I think that I was removing promotional content and preserved the important parts.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)   18:09, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * My apologies—I see you are an experienced and good-faith editor. --Greenmaven (talk) 18:25, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Without source,dont edit the article.
Benjaminvetri (talk) 06:59, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

extremely sorry.sent mistakenly.
Benjaminvetri (talk) 07:02, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

GOCE November drive wrap-up
awsomewww.pbs.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.194.109.119 (talk) 22:38, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

A very useful find indeed!
Thanks! Pdfpdf (talk) 12:30, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes - I was amazed that it has taken me two years to find something so useful. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 17:32, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Would you like some user rights?
Hello there. I just noticed your revert on the Education article, and I saw that it wasn't automatically accepted because the article is under pending changes protection. I had a little look through your contributions, and it looks like you are doing a lot of anti-vandalism work - would you like the rollbacker and reviewer user rights to make your work easier? Just let me know and I'll give them to you. Best — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 14:17, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I would very much appreciate the rights you are offering me. I am puzzled because I seem to be able to roll back a continuous set of edits from one editor already. Best wishes --Greenmaven (talk) 17:35, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, you are now a reviewer and rollbacker. I am guessing that your previous ability to roll back a set of edits was through Twinkle. Twinkle uses JavaScript to implement the rollback function, but when you have the rollback right you can roll back edits using the MediaWiki software interface, which is much faster. You might want to take a peek at my scripts page to steal the rollback scripts if you are interested as well. I'll leave the usual instructions for reviewing and rollbacking below. — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 18:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

You are now a rollbacker
Hi Jack Greenmaven. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback: If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 18:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
 * Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
 * Rollback should never be used to edit war.
 * If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
 * Use common sense.

You are now a reviewer
Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges. A full list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on will be at Special:StablePages.

Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also: — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 18:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Reviewing, the guideline on reviewing
 * Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
 * Protection policy, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.
 * Much appreciated. --Greenmaven (talk) 18:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

== Best Regards and kind re-read request, improvement and correction to the articles Catona and Radio Studio 54 Network. thanks in advance from true heart--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 21:01, 8 December 2012 (UTC) ==

Goodnight from Calabria,

I'm writing to say hello and know how you are, and to wish you a good Sunday with all my heart. I am writing to ask you for a kindness, if you want to and you can. I ask your kind courtesy to brush language regarding two articles of interest to me:


 * Catona, a small village of the Great Reggio Calabria, an independent municipality until 1927.


 * Radio Studio 54 Network, the flagship radio of Calabria, born on the same day of my arrival in the world, with the difference that I was born two hours before the first broadcast. In recent years this radio has many successes and many emotions, it is also followed by the Calabrian diaspora around the world. even in a small Italian restaurant run by some Calabrian in Hong Kong. Slowly Radio has grown and well followed thanks to the web streaming.

I ask you kindly if you can give an improvement to the two articles, I saw you speak a little Italian and as I've done some self-study.

Of course, your kindness will be reciprocated with all your heart, word of a descendant of the Ancient Rome, where the word was sacred.

Some of your own and some nice answer thank you in advance of my heart...if you'd need are at your disposal very complete. Thanks again and good night--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 21:01, 8 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I will look at them when I have time. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 21:33, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Writing a Wiki page
Hi Jack, thanks for your comments. I have spoken to a friend who is a Wikpedia editor and he is going to rewrite my page. So this should fix the main problems - those of my being new to this, and also of writing the page myself. But I was pleased to receive your encouragement. Perhaps you'll let me know what you think when my friend makes the new reviesion.Jocy H (talk) 01:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You will need to find some reputable references (secondary sources) if you want your article to survive for very long when you put it into 'article space'. Comment here if you want more explanation. Your friend can probably explain what I am saying. Regards --Greenmaven (talk) 01:49, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Waldemar Esteves da Cunha
Hi Jack, how are you? Too much cold in Italy!!! I just made this new page, and I ask you, when you'll have 5 free minutes, to correct for me, please.

Thank you very much for your help!

Rex Momo (talk) 15:31, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Kevin12xd... &#124; speak up &#124; take a peek &#124; email me 21:23, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Greetings Jack!
  Gareth Griffith-Jones  – The Welsh  Buzzard  – is wishing you the season's greetings. Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus, or the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.

Luiz Carlos Prates
Hi Jack, how are you? I made this new page, and I ask you the help for a short relecture, please.

Thank you very much, and Happy New Year!

Rex Momo (talk) 14:57, 31 December 2012 (UTC)