User talk:Jack Shaefer

1. It is a fact that the university was named after Chiang Kai-shek. Although it might be the case that when the name was chosen, some among those involved sincerely admired Chiang. But it is beyond dispute that a central reason for choosing this name in the 1980s was political expedience. Money for the university was needed; it was easier to get money at that time if the name Chiang Kai-shek was used. Hence the name carries no academic or scholarly significance. 2. The information listed that was alleged to merely have been lifted from the university homepage, has in fact been verified. Editors should check the references cited below. Moreover, supporting evidence is also available from the Ministry of Education and the National Science Council in Taiwan. Respectfully, Jack Shaefer

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This is not something in which I choose to invest large amounts of time. I took this on, just to assist in minimizing vandalism. I have this time only made a minor change. I advise that you attend to grammar when you edit the work of others. Moreover, because I don't choose to get enmeshed in a silly dispute, I have not amended the addition as regards Chiang Kai-shek. Perhaps because you share his name, you wish to see this highlighted. So be it. And it is indeed a fact, at least in the sense that Zhung Zheng is one of his names. But facts are infinite, so we must always make choices. And as I stated above, this fact speaks only to political expedience of the 1980s. It is irrelevant to the specific academic content of the university, and in the year 2010 it only serves to create misimpressions and misunderstandings. Respectfully, Jack Shaefer


 * You may sign your posts with ~ . I understand that you may not want to spend the time to study Wikipedia policy, and we certainly welcome your contributions here, but if you insist on undoing the work of others, you will need to do so in a way that does not violate the conventions of the community. Otherwise, keep a low head, and when in doubt, don't hesitate to ask.
 * I'm not sure what you mean by the "academic content of the university" and creating "misimpressions and misunderstandings". Wikipedia is not censored. If it is a relevant fact (i.e. not trivia) then it belongs. This is relevant to the history of the university. Just because a university is named after a person you may find politically objectionable doesn't mean we should keep that fact out. What "misimpressions and misunderstandings" are being created here? We've provided no details other than the origin of the name, which, while readily apparent in Chinese, is hardly apparent in English. --Jiang (talk) 07:50, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've responded to you at Talk:National Chung Cheng University so you may want to respond to issues specific to the article there and not here.--Jiang (talk) 08:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

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