User talk:Jackievance1

Thank you for responding. I am not very capable with this editing thing or other functions of sites. I have a very difficult time navigating or responding. so if I am lacking it is not out of rudeness or unfriendliness, it is out of ignorance. Again Thank you. I train horses and dogs. I refer to "Sound minded" as opposed to unsound mind, because Through my training, I feel if the animal is sound minded; it will extend trust to me. With that initial trust, I will expand my training into unfamiliar areas. I will remain training the horse in that area until it responds with conduct which tells me I cam move on to still another unfamiliar area ETC. ETC. When the horse will not perform or accept the circumstance, it does not extend me trust, and I must continue training the horse in that area, or until I have exhausted my talent. Some horses will not accept training of say, driving, riding or packing and will fight each attempt to get them to accept it. I am not saying that type of horse has an unsound mind. I would think a horse with an unsound mind can not be trained to a state of reliability. I reference Training as riding, driving packing or liberty performance. I do not reference conditioned reflex training.

I think there are three innate mediums of two way communication by which humans and animals convey information. Perhaps another trainer may find a pathway within one of those three mediums of communication that the horse perceives and accepts as OK, in which case the horse trust that trainer and it will perform. If a person is able to recognize the more intimate, subtle, sensitive signals in a horse's communication, that person can communicate to that horse and convey a message the horse will perceive as a comfortable circumstance. Training horses/dogs is all about communication. Some humans are better communicators. Untrained Horses do not operate on fairness, hope, faith or benevolence. I think they have an attitude of wait and see. However their conduct often reflects curiosity, of which have a greater degree than others. when in the limited, restricted, small area with a wild horse, if he dose not come after me it says he is tolerating me, because I have not presented a threat that warrants a fight or flight. If that state continues, I feel that is accepting my presences. That state is the thresh hold to trust. My continued acceptable conduct, from that point on will gain me a tiny bit of trust, or if if my conduct is not acceptable I remain in the tolerance state.

I will not extend trust to any person or thing until it has proven trustworthy. I do not co-mingle trust, faith or confidence. I do sometimes hope for the best of circumstance...but I remain aware of the alternatives. As far as the bus driver; I have faith the people who hired him. I will trust him if he earns it, and that takes a person(s) to person(s) experience. --Jackievance1 (talk) 03:02, 1 June 2011‎

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Hi Jackievance1, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Our intro page provides helpful information for new users—please check it out! A lot more pages that you might find helpful are linked to on Welcome links. If you need help, check out Questions, or write your questions on this page and add, and someone should show up shortly to answer your questions. You may also try and ask me on my talk page, but, to be honest, I'm not logged in very often. Again, welcome, and Happy editing! RainerBlome (talk) 20:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Trust (social sciences)
A few days ago, you have made your first edit as a registered user, adding a paragraph in front of the previous first paragraph of the article. The existing first paragraph explains what trust is, in one easy to understand sentence. It is important to leave such an explanation at the top because many readers are looking for it.

Apparently you wanted to add some aspects to the article. Here I have indented your text:

Inter and intra species trust.

Please phrase complete sentences, they are easier to understand. The article already mentions that trust relationships can exist between different types of entities. Differences in the types of trustor and trustee are quite common. People trust all kinds of entities. Maybe animals deserve to be mentioned explicitly. Please consider changing the existing list to include animals.

In the initial relationship between two sound minded beings, humans or animals;

Are you sure that an entity needs to be sound-minded in order to trust or be trusted? I'd say, no, sound-mindedness is neither necessary to trust, nor to be trusted.

trust will manifest only from a one on one experience.

In my view, a trust relationship is sometimes established even though the trustor has no experience with the trustee.

This inter and intra species Trust is expressed in willing participation in degrees

Willingness is already on the list in the article, the degree of trust is also already mentioned.

without fear.

The article calls this "belief in the honesty, fairness, or benevolence"

Trust is an earned status.

Stronger trust can be earned, true. However, in some contexts, a low degree of trust is extended immediately. For example, I trust a bus driver even though I may not even have seen her or him. You might say that previous bus drivers have earned the trust. The absence of any indications of untrustworthiness is often enough.

Sound minded beings are capable of infinite trust. However before one extends trust the recipient must prove trust worthy. When one participates outside of the aforementioned, one is participating on faith or hope.

In this sense, is "faith" a form of weak trust?

--RainerBlome (talk) 21:46, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Jackie, thank you for your reply. You have posted your reply at the current top of the page. Please post any reply below the entry that it refers to. This makes it easier to understand and follow the flow of the discussion. You can move your reply below the entry that it refers to by using cut-and-paste while editing the page (and remove this paragraph here in the process :-). --RainerBlome (talk) 09:17, 30 March 2015 (UTC)