User talk:Jackmantas

Eric Greif edit war
You appear to be set on a course as a Single-purpose account to purge the Eric Greif article as your single intention. I would suggest we involve a mediator as this could escalate into an edit war. You first intended to merely blank the whole page, but that was reverted...and so the slashing began. Why don't you check for references under the spelling Greif instead of Grief? Your edit of the Viogression, to take one example - any Google search shows Greif on the album credits. I would wager that when you finish with this article, you'll create yet another user account to try and decimate another, but that is only a guess and not an assumption. A Sniper (talk) 11:44, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering...
I was wondering why you undid all those edits without using the edit explanation box so everyone knows exactly what you did and why you did it? I thought we were supposed to do that and as an experienced user you should know that. Could it be that you had no basis for undoing many of my edits?

Also, now you have made the assumption that: "when I am done decimating this article...", I will create another account and move on to another article. Please Sir, how can you make an assumption like that? Moderator? Yes, I think that would be a great idea. Obviously something needs to be done when you just undo all my edits that I worked so hard on. ( many with no explanation as is required under Wikipedia rules)

Thanks Jackmantas (talk) 13:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC) 12:35, 13 April 2008 |Jackmantas }}

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You've been mentioned at the Conflict of interest/Noticeboard
Hello Jackmantas. You are welcome to join the discussion there and give your own opinion. EdJohnston (talk) 17:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Trolling
So now you're trolling. Look that up since you claim to be a new user. What a complete lack of good faith. I only hope other editors catch on, or that you lose interest and move on. A Sniper (talk) 20:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Death
If you have some kind of problem with my edits, don't take it out on the editors of the Death page. I neither created the page nor color the tone on that article. You have exercised extreme bad faith. There are many dedicated editors and everyone discusses and reaches consensus there. If it is your intention to fully remove the Eric Greif page, then you'll do it. But don't go down the troll path because it is unfair to others who faithfully edit articles like Death. A Sniper (talk) 22:35, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

If everyone discusses and reaches consensus here, then why are you now making changes without discussing? --Jackmantas (talk) 09:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Malcolm Dome and Kerrang!
Since you're a fan of Malcolm from Metal Forces, you'll be happy to know that he's written about Death and interviewed Chuck Schuldiner. In addition, Kerrang's Schuldiner obituary in issue 885 (January 5, 2002) states "Chuck Schuldiner was one of the most significant figures in the history of metal". A Sniper (talk) 00:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:AN notice
Your are being mentioned at Administrators%27_noticeboard. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Eric Greif out in front, '91.jpg
Jack, please complete the instructions underneath the notice. If you have any questions, just ask me. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Greif
If I am Eric Greif, then I probably was sitting at the table with Chuck & Malcolm during that particular interview, don't you reckon? And the Death biographies mention that, upon losing in court to Greif (who was the plaintiff), Schuldiner approached Greif's lawyer to see if something could be worked out so Greif could manage him again as by that time he was the only remaining band member. Poser? I would say a poser is someone who has never achieved anything personally and sits around trolling through Wikipedia looking for a conflict, making single-purpose edits on articles to which that person knows very little. Have a nice day. A Sniper (talk) 07:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, you definitely are Greif. You have already been identified as him and have also admitted it yourself, so you might as well quit talking about yourself in the third person. Or is that how "egomaniacal idiots" always talk? I can't believe you put that in there. Again, that's something to be really proud of! Congratulations. And no, I doubt very seriously you were sitting at the table during that interview. (Malcolm would have took one look at you and told you to go wait in the lobby.) Besides that if you knew anything about interviews you would know that the vast majority of them are conducted by phone. You knew nothing about that interview until I said something or else you would have used it for a reference a long time ago. Well, actually if you did know about and didn't use it as a reference until now, well now that's even dumber. Have fun, --Jackmantas (talk) 07:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, as a single-purpose account who has spent their whole first 48 hours trolling in a personal bad faith vendetta (see ) against a single user, you've done a great job. A Sniper (talk) 07:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it is pretty funny that now that I owned you in one post you are trying to act like you are all angelic and white as snow innocent and running around posting and crying like a little baby to everybody you think will listen. I'm sure I'm not the only one on here that thinks you are a total jerk. Don't be suprised if I ignore you from here on out. I made my point. I just got tired of you harassing me for editing your biography page. later, --Jackmantas (talk) 08:09, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The only thing you 'own' is a single-purpose account. I'm glad you feel good that you've made your point. But what if you're wrong? Good luck with your editing, and I do mean that. A Sniper (talk) 08:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh BTW, how many times can you call someone else's account a "single-purpose account" before you become a "single- purpose account" yourself? Jackmantas (talk) 20:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Please comment on the contributions and not the contributor
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Agathoclea (talk) 07:33, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Solution to Greif Page debacle?
I'm glad you took this issue to me. I must first warn you. I don't appreciate the fighting you have caused nor the insults you have thrown A Sniper's way (nor do I like you insulting Chuck Schuldiner, come to think of it, as he is somewhat of an idol to me, even though I may not be the biggest death metal fan). I have known A Sniper on wikipedia since October and have found him to be a great editor and kind user. Now, to your other comments. To be honest I don't really see the problem with him citing interviews with Eric Greif from the internet as sources. As long as those sites aren't completely unreliable and have some semblance of uniformity then I just don't see the problem. However, I agree more sources should be found. It is not our job to motivate A Sniper, though, he is still a user like the rest of us and we don't need to motivate him, but rather find those sources ourselves if he cannot or will not. I think we should just leave what is up there right now and slowly find sources for everything. When I read the article nothing sticks out to me as being blatantly untrue or ridiculous. I think sources can be found (with a little work) for everything in the article. Removing Greif's dealings with certain bands (which are fact) does not help anything.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 20:29, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey how's it going Blizzard Beast. Okay, first of all, I never insulted Chuck Schuldiner. How do you figure I did that? Maybe you are referring to my edit summary in which I stated that calling him "The Father of Death Metal" was a ridiculous claim. Well I never said Mr. Schuldiner was ridiculous, I said that claim was. And it is. It is also highly inaccurate. You say you are not a very big death metal fan. Well I am, and I can tell you that there were so many bands that played that type of music before he did it is not even funny. To name one band or person as the "Father of Death Metal"is just inaccurate. And he should not be called the father of death metal because his band was named "Death." That doesn't make any sense either. Hell, he didn't even accept the title. He didn't think he deserved it and he didn't want it. He didn't even consider his band "Death" to be death metal. I have a great deal of respect for Mr. Schuldiner, and if you feel like I insulted him, I didn't mean it that way and I apologize. Now second of all, how do you figure I caused all the fighting? Have you not read all of his posts where he tried to insult and ridicule me? How has he hoodwinked you like this? Not just me either, haven't you seen how he insults people that are being totally polite and helpful? I can tell you I have had some private conversations with several long-time Wikipedia users and they all think he is an absolute jerk. They are cheering me on and are glad he is getting a taste of his own medicine. He insulted me over that Slaughter post I made and I thought he wanted to play hardball. Hmm, I guess not. He got more than he bargained for and now he wants to run around crying to everyone and trying to act like he is all innocent in this thing. He is not. He knows it and I know it and a lot of other people know it. He runs around Wikipedia accusing people of vandalism, sockpuppetry, malicious edits, single purpose user..etc. etc. and with no evidence to back up his claims. If he doesn't like the way you edit on any of the pages he is mentioned on, he calls you a vandal. As far as the fansites he is using for references, the information from the sites are all just interviews with Greif himself. So he does an interview for a fansite and any claim he makes in there is a reliable source!?!? Sorry, but I just am not buying that. Besides that fansites are not considered reliable sources by Wikipedia standards. So you agree more sources need to be found huh? Well don't hold your breath, because there aren't any. If they did exist, he would have used them by now. I mean do you really think there is a vast contingent of writers out there saying: "Oh, let's do a story on "Griffy" Greif!" "That will really sell our site." Well I can assure you there is not. To be blunt he is pretty much a nobody in the music world. Sorry if that makes you mad, but he just isn't. If he was that noteworthy then somebody would have come along and put a page up about him and he wouldn't have had to do it himself. So, leave it all up there and "slowly" find sources for everything, huh?" Well again, with all due respect, how long does it take? A few google searches ought to do it. The page has been up for almost a year now and still no solid verification. It may not be a big deal to you, but I think it compromises the integrity of Wikipedia. People come to Wikipedia and expect to find good, accurate, solid and factual information. In my mind the Grief page does not meet that expectation. Thanks Jackmantas (talk) 23:17, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, that's one way to put. But I have neither the patience or time to really respond to you.  As for the whole "father of death metal" thing...the fact is he has been called that by many in the media and I'm not concerned whther he like dit or not, really, only that many in the media called him that and there should be a statement saying as much.  I don't care if he was the hundredth person in death metal, but it just happens that the media called him that.  On that note you say there were death metal bands before Death.  Who?  Possessed is the only other band that comes to mind as being the first musicians that played the death metal style besides Death.  No one played it before them that I know of.  They just took from early black metal bands like Venom and Hellhammer and built on that.  I already admitted I'm not an expert on death metal, but I do know more than the average [real] metal fan about dm and I count myself as a fan of early death metal with bands such as Possessed, Death, Massacre, Deicide and Cannibal Corpse (those are pretty much the only true death metal bands I listen to; I'm more a fan of black metal, classic metal, viking metal, power metal, folk metal and progressive metal/avant garde metal and some other types like thrash metal to a much lesser degree; I like some melodeath too, but that's not real death metal).  As for your other comments and opinion on A Sniper and Greif, I'm not interested.  We're not going to have the same opinion on this issue.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 22:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Jackmantas (talk) 03:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

August 2008
Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. A Sniper (talk) 02:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked for a period of 31 hours for blatantly uncivil edit summaries, such as. To contest this block please place below. Tiptoety talk 03:52, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. A Sniper (talk) 01:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Re-blocked
You have been reblocked for a week for your continued personal attacks and abuse of automated tools. I have also disabled your access to Twinkle due to your abuse of the tool. You may appeal this block by placing the text, and you may contact an administrator directly to regain your access to Twinkle. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 01:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)