User talk:Jackmcbarn

Some TemplateStyles comments
Just wanted to leave a few brief friendly comments regarding Template:Location map/styles.css and its implementation in the module.


 * 1) It would be good to move the styles page to a subpage of the module, since it is implemented in the module. I know there's some inconsistency in the rest of the stylesheets on wiki, but my assertion is that those should be in the most-pertinent namespace to the implementation. It's not the worst when the module and template are equivalently named, but it is still some inconsistency in the module itself. I know of at least one example offhand where a module implements a few templates yet uses a stylesheet that is a subpage to one of those only.
 * 2) The class names are mayyybe too short and/or non-specific. Most of the rules in the CSS page are appropriately scoped to the location map, but you'd be surprised what might happen with not-very specific names. (They also don't do a good job indicating just what is intended for each class i.e. aren't very semantic--I'm sure you can puzzle them out but a newbie to the module would take a while for it :D.)
 * 3) Not all the styles have been converted in the module itself. I see a few cases where we have to take the parameter from the template (noting a ticket on that point), but the rest might be nice to get out of the module and into the style sheet.

Let me know if you disagree. --Izno (talk) 23:07, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to it being there, but at the same time it doesn't really seem that important. I'll definitely create future CSS pages under modules, but I'm nervous about moving this one now since CSS doesn't support redirects, so depending on the job queue, a lot of pages may end up broken for a while, no matter which order I do things in (unless I were to do something awful like this: do a C&P move, update the module, then request a histmerge).
 * The reason I made the stylesheet at all was to reduce the size of maps that have thousands of marks, such as Template:Syrian Civil War detailed map. I intentionally picked much shorter names than I normally would, since every 1 byte saved from the name is several kilobytes saved from that page, which was previously right up against its post-expand include size limit. As for being nonspecific, I made all of the styles be descendants of .locmap for that reason, so that even if another stylesheet did this trick, there still wouldn't be any conflicting styles. To help avoid confusing newbies, I could add comments in the CSS or Lua that explains what each one means, but I'd rather not require longer class names to be used in the HTML.
 * Module:Location map basically has two different sections that emit HTML: The top and bottom functions, and the mark function. I think I moved every style that I can out of mark (let me know if you see any I missed). Since top and bottom are only called once for each map, they contribute a lot less to the page size than mark does, so it didn't seem as important to move them. If you think the consistency would be beneficial, though, I'd be happy to move them too (and I'd also be okay with those ones having longer names).
 * Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to perform Awful things. Just let me know. (I did just that for the main page stylesheet.) :)
 * Yeah, I think we should generally avoid designing for the pathological case. Did you test these lengths at all, if that's what you were thinking about? Maintainable names are more important to me than a location map that some would probably argue shouldn't exist at all (and for more people, not in its current form). I'm happy to have a community discussion on this one if you don't really want to budge.
 * Yeah, I'm a fan of consistency to be sure.
 * --Izno (talk) 23:47, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, that all sounds reasonable. I'll start on that and let you know when I'm ready for the histmerge. Side note: this is turning out to be quite complex because there's 12 different ways to do a location map (3 choices for caption: automatic (unset), none (blank), or manual (anything else), times 4 choices for border: default (unset or blank), no border outside of an infobox ("none"), inside of an infobox ("infobox"), or a custom color (anything else)), those choices aren't independent/orthogonal, and they all affect the structure of the DOM. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, that all sounds reasonable. I'll start on that and let you know when I'm ready for the histmerge. Side note: this is turning out to be quite complex because there's 12 different ways to do a location map (3 choices for caption: automatic (unset), none (blank), or manual (anything else), times 4 choices for border: default (unset or blank), no border outside of an infobox ("none"), inside of an infobox ("infobox"), or a custom color (anything else)), those choices aren't independent/orthogonal, and they all affect the structure of the DOM. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Your opposition to Kyiv category renames
Hi you posted an opposition at Categories for discussion/Speedy to renaming the Kyiv categories following the main article move but have not responded to other users arguing that the naming convention is now out of date and thus the oppose is invalid. Given widespread changes and reverts in this area it's important that the proper processes aren't stalled into deadlock and just encouraging users to resort to edit warring. Please can you address the replies. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:19, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Replied there. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Talkpage
Hi Jack. Thanks for the help with the reverts. Note that there is this logged at RFPP.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 17:22, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Just a little note
Wanted you to know that it's really an honor to know you and to see you mopping things up again. Just a couple of hours left now so we can once again breathe easily. You might have a few equals, but there are none better. Glad you're here!  Paine   18:13, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I certainly can breathe more easily now. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:48, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Your second request for adminship
You know what to do. :) Congratulations for joining a small group of people who have lost their adminship due to inactivity and regained it via an RfA. Good luck! Acalamari 21:04, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Welcome back!  bibliomaniac 1  5  21:11, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Welcome back. As I said at the RfA, this is an important result, as it will hopefully show admins there is nothing to fear about inactivity desysops and you can get the tools back through the traditional channels. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:12, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome back, thanks for offering to pick up the mop again. Hope to see you around. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)  21:58, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Glad to see your RfA's result -- congratulations! ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 22:06, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Glen (talk) 02:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you all! Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC) Thanks
 * Congratulations & welcome back to the admin corp, Jackmcbarn! Refreshments are through the door on your left and the mop is on your right. This party isn't going to clean itself up after all . Seriously though, welcome back!! -- The SandDoctor Talk 03:12, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Felicitations and welcome back. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:33, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Another admin is what we could use right now. Welcome back! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 03:35, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations and welcome back! Here is your very special T-shirt (I assume you have long since worn out the one you got originally). Also, here's a reminder that you are now entitled to some nice shiny bling, which you can read about at User:MelanieN/Admin bling. Enjoy! -- MelanieN (talk) 03:46, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats Megan☺️   Talk to the monster  12:33, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations for adminship !!  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Late addition to this thread: Glad to have supported you again. Congratulations and good luck - a little belatedly. Donner60 (talk) 11:05, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Came here to make sure you have your T-shirt, but someone already gave it to you, so instead I'll just say: congratulations! — python coder (talk &#124; contribs) 13:26, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

September 2020
It is extremely gratifying to see you carrying out routine everyday adminstrative actions on the encyclopedia. Thank you and welcome back, Jack. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  06:13, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That section heading made me think I got templated for messing something up. I'm glad to see what it actually was. Much appreciated. Jackmcbarn (talk) 06:14, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I thought you might get a little charge from the heading, but I was thrilled to see your username pop up on my watchlist in recent days, doing good work. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  06:33, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Recreate "Draft:Hu Zhiying"
Can I recreate "Draft:Hu Zhiying" and keep the rest of the draft without using any copyrighted material? Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 12:50, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:02, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Jujiang (talk) 15:22, 26 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi Jackmcbarn, Can you tell me how to deal with the inverted photos? Thanks. --Jujiang (talk) 21:48, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by inverted? Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:52, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The Chinese of that picture is turned over. See? --Jujiang (talk) 23:05, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay. I'm not familiar enough with Chinese to know which way is right, so I'll take your word for it. It looks like flipped File:Mazhan Zhen - Houxian Cun - P1220012.JPG for some reason back in 2018, which I've just undone. Refresh and see if it looks right now. Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:13, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Correct! Tell me how to deal with it. Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 23:17, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think I already took care of it. Does it still look mirrored now after you reload the page? Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:18, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * This picture is still flipped in the article. I'd like to learn from you how to deal with this situation. --Jujiang (talk) 23:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Which article? And does it still happen after you WP:BYPASS your cache with Ctrl+Shift+R or similar? Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:31, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Confucianism. In the article, the picture is still flipped. Click on the picture to enlarge it is still flipped. Entering "More details" is normal, but clicking to enlarge the picture is still flipped. That's how strange it is. Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 23:34, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That definitely sounds like it's a caching issue. Did you do WP:BYPASS? How about private browsing mode? Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I can't use WP:BYPASS. --Jujiang (talk) 02:24, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Why not? Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:27, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to use that tool. Can you demonstrate to me? --Jujiang (talk) 02:31, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That page explains it in more detail than I could. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:31, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * OK. It's done. Thanks. --Jujiang (talk) 02:35, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

September 2020
Hi there, I'm King Work and you were the one that told me something on my talk my page. I'm sorry for not explaining why I blank the redirect page to the article Grand Theft Auto VI. Can I please start on this article. King Work (talk) 22:26, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If you want to start on an article, you can. Just don't remove the redirect until you actually have some article content to replace it with. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:38, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

So can i create an draft to the redirect. King Work (talk) 22:54, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Talk page protection
My talk page is protected because there’s a long term abuser who’s been threatening another user for years. When I intervened to help her, he started threatening me. I have about half a dozen crackpots like that who would sock on my page if I allowed it. If something looks strange, ask before jumping to wrong conclusions. Jehochman Talk 01:36, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I realize that whole thread came off more harshly than I intended it to, and the protections were more justified than I thought. Sorry about that. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:37, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it! Jehochman Talk 15:29, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

In addition to accusations of murder, I've literally faced very real death threats from a terrorist organization that involved the FBI and Scotland Yard. These protections are in place for a reason and the fact that you are ignorantly advocating for something over procedure without discussing with anyone is absurd in the extreme. Buffs (talk) 04:50, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I can't apologize enough for the drama I created. I'm no longer advocating for their removal, and I'm completely onboard with the policy change that allows these kinds of protections now. Jackmcbarn (talk) 05:35, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I think it was a discussion worth having - and it's resulted in a needed change to the documentation. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:36, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Discussions are fine, that is true. I'm trying be lower profile, so any time my name might appear on a noticeboard I like to receive a talk message first because often things can be cleared up that way. Jehochman Talk 15:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Trysten Hill page
Hi Jackmcbarn,

I'm an infrequent editor of Wikipedia. I noticed you had reverted the Trysten Hill page back to before my edit. Wanted to let you know my intent was not to cause vandalism, and was just to reflect the national interest he had garnered as a relatively obscure NFL player beforehand. My edits were the sourced portion, not the vandalizing "dirty" edits.

I wanted to know if my initial edit on that page was at all inappropriate. As a novice editor, I did my best to source it appropriately and just want to make sure my initial edit was fine. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.50.243 (talk) 06:51, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Upon a closer look, your edits were fine, so I reinstated them. Jackmcbarn (talk) 06:53, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Mistake
Hello. I'm afraid you appear to have fallen for a nasty ploy by a disruptive editor. You acted on their request for page protection which was made in entirely bad faith. They alleged vandalism; there is no vandalism visible in the recent page history. Their request was targeted instead at some of my edits, which made a number of necessary improvements:
 * 1) The version this editor is aggressively trying to retain was badly formatted; see MOS:BOLD
 * 2) It also did not adequately introduce the topic, failing to mention who Shostokvich was or what he composed and instead describing only his scheme for numbering his works. That is not what the article is about.
 * 3) It was not grammatically correct: "were never bestowed opus numbers" is nonsensical as "bestowed" can only be used in the passive voice.
 * 4) It used oblique references to "the composer" instead of referring to them by name or pronoun
 * 5) It used his surname instead of using a pronoun, after the oblique references.

This editor has aggressively resisted any edits not made by him to the lead section, and has persistently misrepresented such edits. Last month they aggressively attacked someone for replacing the formerly completely inadequate lead section which consisted of the single sentence "This is a list of compositions by Dmitri Shostakovich". See the following examples of their persistent dishonesty in regards to these edits:


 * 1) Not to jump into this debate, but is there a reason for replicating the header from the composer's article here? - the lead section did not replicate the "header" (this user's personal terminology for what everyone else calls the lead section). It had simply adapted some text from it to properly introduce the list of Shostakovich's works.
 * 2)  - trashing another user's work entirely to restore the laughably inadequate "This is a list" lead, without any attempt at explanation.
 * 3) Changed header. Needs work, but is better than the copy+paste job from before. - there was no "copy+paste job" before.
 * 4) Once again reverting bad faith edit by banned sockpuppet account - no, my edit was obviously in good faith and it obviously improved the lead. The accusation of sockpuppetry is nonsensical.
 * 5) Reverted vandalism - no, my edit was not vandalism. WP:VAND and WP:NOTVAND are very clear about what is and is not vandalism.
 * 6) ...it would be helpful if you could please explain why this page needs to replicate the header from the composer's main article... - the page never did replicate the "header". The user has repeatedly claimed this despite it being so obviously false.
 * 7) This isn't a biography of Shostakovich. No other article listing the works of a particular composer lazily copies the header from the composer's main article. - misrepresentation and personal attack. Nobody "lazily copied" anything.
 * 8) You merely copied and pasted the header from the composer's main article onto this one. - yet again with this obviously false claim.
 * 9)  claimed "Disagreement over whether to write new header or reuse header from composer's main article." - nobody had ever suggested reusing the lead section from the composer's main article.

That is not a complete catalogue of this user's disruptive activities but I think it shows that they are willing to lie and misrepresent other users to get their own way. Their spurious request for page protection shows an escalating abuse of process.

I hope it is clear to you from this that you acting far too hastily in acceding to this user's demands. Misrepresenting another user's edits so flagrantly and persistently should result in some significant sanction, not in an administrator enabling and endorsing such a bad-faith approach. 109.144.218.180 (talk) 15:12, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


 * For background, see Talk:List of compositions by Dmitri Shostakovich. changed the lead by copying the first sentence and fourth paragraph from Dmitri Shostakovich. EW ensued. Multiple editors in the talk page discussion disagreed with Sankura's approach to the lead on the list article; then, Sankura received a CU block. Since that block, multiple IP editors have tried to renew the argument on the talk page but nobody else has engaged. Previous protection expired: an IP editor restored Sankura's preferred lead yesterday and was reverted. It's plausible that the various IP addresses are the same editor, and that the battle over the lead will continue whenever the page is unprotected.  Schazjmd   (talk)  15:31, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay...
 * For anyone looking for the logs of what I did, I didn't protect List of compositions by Dmitri Shostakovich. I partially blocked Special:Contributions/109.144.0.0/16 from editing it.
 * To be clear, 109.144.218.180, are you claiming that you're not the same person as Sankura? Right now, that seems suspicious, and if you are Sankura, then you're block-evading and all of your edits can be reverted on sight for that reason alone.
 * Courtesy ping, since this involves you.
 * Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:45, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * As Schazjmd stated, edited the lead in List of compositions by Dmitri Shostakovich by largely incorporating the lead from Dmitri Shostakovich, including a couple of uncorrected factual errors. Their editorial remarks on their original edit admits that they utilized material from the latter, despite later denials. Initially, Sankura was fixated on Melodia for reverting their original edit, accusing them of being “frankly despicable.” I then chimed in on the matter, politely reminding them to please tone down their combative language, and letting Sankura know I actually agreed with their view that the page needed a new lead. But I also informed them that copying one from the composer’s main article, then pasting it into the article listing his compositions was not helpful. Several examples from other composition list articles were then provided to Sankura, not only as encouragement to write a lead appropriate for the article in question, but also to demonstrate that no other composition list article followed their approach. Additionally, I offered my help if needed. Sankura refused, or at least did not acknowledge it. Instead, they accused me of “breathtaking rudeness” and persisted in editing the lead according to their personal preferences, despite opposition from at least three other editors. Further discussion with Sankura was unhelpful. Instead of engaging with fellow editors in good faith, Sankura accused anybody of disagreeing with them of making “personal attacks” against them. I attempted requesting a third-party opinion, but Sankura repeatedly would erase what they claimed were my “dishonest” petitions for such. This user then began to harass me on my talk page with offensive language.  As a last resort, I requested that an administrator please intervene, examine both our behaviors, and determine any solutions to move forward. Administrators decided to ban Sankura for sockpuppetry. An IP account began to continue the debate on this matter the following day, accusing all editors involved of “coordinated trolling.” Edit warring has continued, which is why I had requested that the article in question be semi-protected. CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:21, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

AfD at Hansa Pit
Hello, I wanted to ask about your close of Articles for deletion/Hansa Pit. Which sources/guidelines/arguments did you find convincing for notability? Thanks, <span style="font-family:Courier New, Courier, monospace;"> // Timothy ::  talk  00:54, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * As the closer of the AfD rather than a participant in it, my role is more to judge consensus than to judge notability, and there quite clearly is not consensus to delete that article. Also, your focus on the "Presumed" point of WP:GNG seems to make for an especially weak argument, given the other editors' opinions in the more in-depth discussion (the AfD itself). Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:11, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Redirect recreation
I'd like to re-create Typhoon Dinah (1959). It's a typical storm redirect, but it was previously created by a now-blocked user. Checking with you first as a matter of course. Cheers! -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:16, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:23, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Page protection on Madeleine Roux
Semi-protection needed - attacked by vandals.-KH-1 (talk) 05:03, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, but next time just reporting at RPP is good enough. Jackmcbarn (talk) 05:10, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

AleviQizilbash
Not trying to stir up a hornet's nest, but I've been on Wikipedia long enough to recognize when a newer user is exhibiting behaviors that clearly indicate that they are going to be destructive to this great project. AleviQizilbash is one of those users, and I hope you (or perhaps Black Kite) will take some action that will more effectively "train" AleviQizilbash on how to interact with collegiality when engaging other editors. - AppleBsTime (talk) 21:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , fyi, related discussions at User_talk:EdJohnston and User talk:Black Kite. Schazjmd   (talk)  21:08, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

If you were to join (rejoin?) AFC...
...then the slight slog you have just been through accepting that Highway draft into mainspace is automated for you with the review tool Fiddle   Faddle  16:57, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I didn't accept that draft; did. He just couldn't move it himself because there was a page in the way, so I moved it for him when I processed his db-move. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:00, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Light dawns! Thank you. I hate it when that happens! There ought to be an easier way for an admin not to have to slog through the acceptance tasks, though  Fiddle   Faddle  17:03, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Many Horses
I'm a bit confused why you relisted an AFD with seven deletes and no keeps? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:16, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I left a comment inside the relist notice itself explaining why. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:17, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Just saw that. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 20:20, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Rent Request
Requested on c — Preceding unsigned comment added by SissiIpadYao313 (talk • contribs) 21:08, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Create a deleted page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Yash_Dudhani_2 Technoto (talk) 14:08, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * That page isn't deleted. What are you asking for exactly? Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Edward Peak recently declined but I wanted to add info to Mount Lyell (Canada); Your UserName last edited page.
Hello ... I submitted an article - 'Edward Peak' - which was recently declined with a suggestion that it could go into the Mount Lyell (Canada) article, which to me was a reasonable suggestion, so I followed the links which lead to Db-G7, but I found no sign of the Edward Peak info I had put together. Your UserName was identified as the user who last edited that page (36 hours ago), so I'm hopeful that you can point me to the actual page where my work is now (there was a note that the info might be deleted after 6 months, but it's been less than that since I added Edward Peak. Can you tell me where it is please?  Best regards, BredttA343. BrettA343 (talk) 20:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Draft:Edward Peak? Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:23, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you muchly. BrettA343 (talk) 00:30, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Deletion question
Was the deletion of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/IncidentArchive1048 a mistake? I noticed the page link was red in the revision history of AN/I, so out of curiosity, I searched for one of the threads archived to the page in this edit. It doesn't seem to exist. Please take a look. Thanks, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 05:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The link in the edit summary is wrong. The threads in question should actually be at Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1048. Jackmcbarn (talk) 05:27, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Right, that makes sense. I missed the mistake in the page name. Thanks for the explanation. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 05:41, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

204.83.96.56
Can user:204.83.96.56 please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 23:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:03, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for deleting that image I uploaded by accident. I thought I was looking at a preview of it and was trying to see what the resolution was and did not realize I was actually creating Wikipedia image. Thank you for its deletion. God bless and happy editing. MarydaleEd (talk) 04:01, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Pray TV
Please consider extending the protection on Pray TV. Drive-by IP doing edits similar to what a now-blocked editor was doing. I have opened an WP:SPI here but since it's an IP I don't expect any public results. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  18:27, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks like took care of this already. Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:49, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

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Call For Help
I’m making my first wikipage and I'm wondering if you could take a look at it for me. Thank you. ChuksJD (talk) 22:11, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you link to the page? Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:36, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

This is the Link

IP vandal
Hi, you blocked the 27.34.0.0/17 range from certain articles but disruptions and vandalisms from the range (by the same user) continue into different articles. Most contributions from the range are by the same vandal with little to no useful edit by others. Can you put a wider block on the range for all articles? Gotitbro (talk) 09:04, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem is that's a gigantic range. Your suggestion would keep a significant proportion of Nepal from editing the encyclopedia. Do you notice any other patterns we could use for a more arrowly.tailored approach, such as a new abuse filter? Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:06, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
 * How about putting a lower level block on 27.34.22.0/24 and 27.34.50.0/23 or 27.34.0.0/18 which are currently being abused. Let's see how that goes. Not sure about abuse filters but the sockpuppeteer/vandal makes a lot of drive by lead/ib changes and category additions maybe these can be tagged from this range. Gotitbro (talk) 16:14, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

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New Page Patrol December Newsletter
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It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to and  who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to, , and who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
 * Year in review

has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.
 * Reviewer of the Year

As a special recognition and thank you has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.
 * NPP Technical Achievement Award

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 2262 Low – 2232 High – 10271

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Happy New Year!
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Feedback request: All RFCs request for comment
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Sanity check failed: 6 edit requests exist in the page but only 3 were found in Parsoid's output.
I'm getting the above error on MediaWiki_talk:Citethispage-content for the past few days. Can you investigate to see why Parsoid is choking? The count of 6 is correct. --Izno (talk) 18:03, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Apparently, the PHP parser and Parsoid handle unbalanced curly braces differently. I fixed that page in Special:Diff/1002503627. I'll submit a bug report to Parsoid shortly. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:21, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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"Vandal fighter", again
Hi! No idea why I forgot to ping you on this until now, but I think your input on Requests for comment/Responder role would be very valuable (we're discussing it on the talk page at the moment), since you were involved with the similar "Vandal fighter" discussion in 2015. Thanks! Enterprisey (talk!) 09:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Discovery Kids (U.S. TV channel) move protection
I would suggest that move protection is no longer needed here at this redirect as the issues here were over 5 years ago, and the base article has been moved to Discovery Family. So I doubt there will be any further issues requiring the need for move protection here. Thanks. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:50, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

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Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive
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Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Administrators will no longer be autopatrolled
A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Pending suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity
Established policy provides for removal of the administrative permissions of users who have not made any edits or logged actions in the preceding twelve months. Because you have been inactive, your administrative permissions will be removed&#32;if you do not return to activity within the next month.

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 * I hope we hear from you before your name makes it to WP:BN next month, and good explanation. Another desysop would only make the community more cynical. Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:27, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * Hello, Jackmcbarn,
 * I'm sorry to see that you've left Wikipedia, not long after your second RFA. I hope that when your life and time allows it, you return to contributing here on the Project should you still have an interest in helping out. Thanks. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:55, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Ditto Liz, please do come back soon, Jack, you're very special!  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 03:24, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * And to think 23 Wikipedians, some of whom are admins, opposed that re-sysop. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 15:01, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It's kind of ironic having the Majority ≠ right userbox on userpage...  SN54129  15:48, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Missing
Hi. You are now listed as missing. Should you ever return or choose not to be listed, you are welcome to remove your name. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 21:01, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Module:No globals
Module:No globals has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. User:GKFXtalk 22:20, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

~AZXX
7594613175 2A12:A301:1000:0:0:0:0:2057 (talk) 21:15, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Location maps using skew


A tag has been placed on Category:Location maps using skew indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)