User talk:Jackmcbarn/Archive 4

Please comment on Category talk:Political television series
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Wales - revert
Soz. Touchscreen. Ian Dalziel (talk) 20:07, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

why you deleted transformers image from my page ???
This media is on transformers page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers Can I show it on my personal page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexFurman (talk • contribs) 05:06, 20 January 2014 (UTC) Nevermind, it can be used only for article, I get it. (AlexFurman (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 05:10, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-04
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf11) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 16. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on January 28, and all Wikipedia wikis on January 30 (calendar).
 * You can now see relatively recent results on special pages like Special:DoubleRedirects, Special:UncategorizedPages or Special:WantedCategories. They were disabled before because they were very slow. The results are now updated once a month. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15434]
 * As of January 16, you can make and use guided tours on the Asturian, Farsi and Russian Wikipedias. If you want this tool on your wiki, you need to [//translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=ext-guidedtour&filter=&language=&action=translate translate it] and ask in [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org Bugzilla]. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/105997/]
 * You can give comments on an idea to have a fixed toolbar at the top of wiki pages.
 * You can watch a video to learn how to report problems in Bugzilla. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54606]

VisualEditor news
 * In the toolbar, the menu to edit the styles (like bold, italic, etc.) now has a down arrow (VisualEditor - Icon - Text style.svgVisualEditor - Icon - Down.svg). The order of the Insert menu has also changed a little.
 * You can now edit  tags with a very basic tool. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/107537/]
 * You can now see a help page about keyboard shortcuts in the page menu. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52844]
 * When you change categories, you will now see them when you save the page. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48560]
 * When you edit templates, you will now see the parameters in the right order. The ones that you must add have a star (*). [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51930] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53611]
 * The page will now be saved faster, thanks to a new way of coding the text that sends 40% less text to the servers. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59660]
 * Your wiki can ask to test a new tool to edit TemplateData. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51734]

Problems
 * There was a problem with search on the English and German Wikipedias between January 6 and January 14. You could not see new pages and changes in search results. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59979]
 * There were "pool timeouts" errors on several wikis on January 13; it was caused by a code change that was made to fix another problem. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59993]
 * On January 17, Bugzilla and Wikimedia Labs were broken for about 20 minutes due to network problems. IRC channels with recent changes (irc.wikimedia.org) were broken for about two hours.

Future software changes
 * If you have removed JavaScript in your web browser, you will soon be able to see the orange bar saying that you have new messages. If you have changed how the bar looks with a gadget, you may need to change the gadget again. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56974] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/95102/]
 * You will soon be able to add a given Flickr user to a blacklist so that their files can't be uploaded using UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons and other wikis. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42770]
 * You will see a warning when you try to delete a page included in at least one other page. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/108188/]
 * You will so longer see disambiguation pages in Special:LonelyPages. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3483]

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Pending changes 2014 RfC Proposal 12
Hello! As a result of discussion with other editors regarding Pending changes/Request for Comment 2014, I have made a slight change to Proposal 12 to remove the so-called "exclusivity clause". For the change, see this diff. I am posting this notice on your talk page because you have already inserted comments on the original proposal, and I want to make sure you are aware of the change so that you may revise your comments if you wish to do so.

I apologize for the confusion. If you wish, you may slap me. Ivanvector (talk) 03:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Richard Branson
Hi Jackmcbarn, Thanks for your message. Please are you able to explain why adding Makepeace Island to Richard Branon's business ventures is not appropriate for an encyclopaedia. It is factual and whilst I am still learning the correct referencing, Makepeace Island is owned by Sir Richard and it is his Australian home. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Makepeace Island (talk • contribs) 03:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Mammoth
Concerning and, see also User talk:Favonian. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 21:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Tossh_eng
Hi Jackmcbarn, Thanks for your message saying that "Why did you turn on feedback on Wikipedia:General disclaimer?" However, I did never enter in that page and never edit the content. In the view history, the sign, Tossh_eng is left, but it's not me. I suspects that somebody else has used my sign. Considering the situation, I changed the password to sign in. I hope such identity thief will not occur again with me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tossh eng (talk • contribs) 04:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think you got hacked. I think you clicked "Enable feedback" without realizing it. In any case, I've re-disabled feedback, so no harm done. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:16, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

JimMunchbach
Hi Jackmcbarn,

Jim Munchbach here. Lots to learn here on Wikipedia. I'm a newbie and I was just trying to set up a user page (which seemed like a reasonable place to begin the process of learning Wikipedia).

So, should I update my page before it gets deleted? Or, should I let it be deleted, do my research and prepare the content I want to post on Wikipedia, and then come back and post a new user page when I'm ready to post the content?

I'm looking for a training resource in Kindle now. Wiki for Dummies sounds like a good title...

Thanks Jim — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimMunchbach (talk • contribs) 13:15, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It sounds like you have a conflict of interest. You really shouldn't write about yourself or things you're affiliated with. See also WP:PSCOI. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:16, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

kamley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamley already have two web links present there for an article.Please let me know why this article is being removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vish.mystic (talk • contribs) 19:17, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * If you feel an article should be kept, explain why on its deletion discussion page. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:38, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-05
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes


 * Pages from Wikimedia sites now load faster in your browser thanks to "module storage", a way for your browser to save data like JavaScript and CSS on your computer to avoid downloading them again. See video.
 * The code used to show videos has changed. You should be able to play the video on the page, with the play button on top of the video. If you see the play button on the right of the video, or if clicking on the video leads you to the original file, please file a bug or tell User:Bawolff. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/55550]
 * The  page will be removed because it's too slow. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107988]
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf11) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 16. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on January 28, and all Wikipedia wikis on January 30 (calendar).

Problems
 * On January 21, Universal Language Selector was turned off on all Wikimedia sites because it makes pages load slowly. If you want to use web fonts, or write in scripts that aren't on your keyboard, you need to add it as an option in your preferences. It will be turned back on when the issues are resolved. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56433]
 * For about 20 minutes on the same day, there were problems with CSS and JavaScript due to high server load.

Future software changes
 * You can give comments about the new version of "Winter", a proposal to have a fixed toolbar at the top of wiki pages.

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About the article decline.
Hello Jackmcbarn,

I have submitted an article regarding the Lovin'Com and I would like to thank you for the advice provided. I have editted the article (having removed the mission and vision of the company since they might sound advertising) and would like to know what else can I do considering the priority of the question.

Thank you in regard,

Best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lovin'com (talk • contribs) 11:59, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * First, I advise you to change your username, as a company name as a username is a violation of username policy and may cause you to be blocked. Also, since you have a COI, it's recommended that you not try to write the article about your own company (see WP:PSCOI for more about this). If you insist on doing so anyway, you must make sure to use reliable and independent sources in the article. Once you've made these improvements, resubmit it and it will be reviewed again. Jackmcbarn (talk) 13:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

About an edit summary
Hi there. Re your edit summary here, what you were reverting was simply unsourced content, not unsourced negative content. Even in the la-la land of pending changes, the distinction is worth making. Rivertorch (talk) 17:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That was a borderline case. (We do have a filter that tries to mark edits like that as libel/vandalism). But point taken. Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:59, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, libel and vandalism seem like two rather different things; either might be a subset of the other or it might not, depending on the context. That article and a related one, now semi'd indefinitely, both suffer from these sorts of edits. I'd certainly call them vandalism, since they seem like deliberate attempts to sabotage the verifiability of the articles, but I don't suppose they're libelous. Anyway, thanks for the quick response. Rivertorch (talk) 18:10, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-06
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf12) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 30. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on February 4, and all Wikipedia wikis on February 6 (calendar).
 * Global AbuseFilter rules are now active on all [//noc.wikimedia.org/conf/small.dblist small wikis]. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60408] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/109435/]
 * The buttons used in pages like log-in, account creation and search are now using the same colors and styles. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58297] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/103494/]
 * You can now link to diffs using  and similar links. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/63395/]
 * There is no longer an option to hide tables of contents on all pages. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52813]
 * Searching in the  namespace on Wikimedia Commons is now faster, after a bug was fixed on January 29. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/110191/]
 * All Wikimedia wikis now have high-resolution favicons. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45036]

VisualEditor news
 * You can now see a list of keyboard shortcuts by pressing Ctrl +/ inside VisualEditor. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/107153/]

Future software changes
 * Edits and files hidden with the Oversight tool will be moved to the RevisionDelete system. The Oversight tool will then be removed from Wikimedia wikis. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60373] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18598] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/18229/]
 * For languages where not all sister projects exist, you will be able to link to other language projects using double interwikis (, , etc.). [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/94716/]
 * It will soon be possible to use the GettingStarted tool on other wikis than the English Wikipedia. You can translate it on [//translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:MessageGroupStats&x=D&group=ext-gettingstarted&suppressempty=1&language= Translatewiki.net].
 * You will soon be able to include the Special:Contributions page into other pages. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/106320/]
 * You will be able to see where a file is used inside MultimediaViewer, the new tool for viewing media files. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60087] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/107993/]
 * It will soon be possible to send MassMessage messages using the API. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/87311/]
 * You will soon see audio statistics on the Special:TimedMediaHandler page. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/97998/]

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Tech News: 2014-07
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf13) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on February 6. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on February 11, and all Wikipedia wikis on February 13 (calendar).
 * The Vector search box was changed to fix old display and accessibility issues; for example, you can now use full-text search even if you have disabled JavaScript. Please report any problems you see. The option to disable the "simplified search bar" on Vector will also be removed. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/50660] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25127] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24248] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/82100/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/99422/]
 * You are now notified when someone adds a link to your user page on wikis where it didn't work before (wikis with dates in the year-month-day order, including Hungarian, Japanese, Korean and some variants of Chinese). [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/108329/]

VisualEditor news
 * You can now set media items' alt text and position, and directly set their size, in the media tool. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38129] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/51293]
 * The gallery tool was improved and several issues were fixed. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60307] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60502] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60779]

Problems
 * On February 3, all wikis were broken for about an hour due to a traffic balancing issue. [//wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20140203-LVS]
 * On February 6, some wikis were broken for about half an hour in total due to a problem with the Math extension.

Future software changes
 * Some methods from Scribunto's mw.message library will be removed after February 18. If you use them in your templates or modules, please check to make sure that things will not break. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60758] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/110983/]
 * You will soon be able to use GettingStarted on 23 new Wikipedias. It helps new users by listing possible tasks and giving help. The new version was also added to the English Wikipedia on February 7th. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/111460/]
 * You will soon see results from other wikis when you use the new search tool (CirrusSearch). [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/44420] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/105986/]
 * The WikiLove tool was redesigned and should also load faster.
 * Edits made with WikiLove or after a GettingStarted suggestion will be tagged. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60911] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/110315/]
 * It will soon no longer be possible to hide section editing links in your preferences. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52811]
 * You will soon be able to use the revision deletion feature via the API. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23005]
 * You will soon be able to choose mobile view on non-mobile devices using a Beta Feature option. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36636] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/102866/]
 * If you have questions about Universal Language Selector, you can join an IRC meeting on February 12 at 17:00 UTC, in the #wikimedia-office channel on Freenode.
 * Developers are preparing for Google Summer of Code 2014. You can propose ideas.
 * bugzilla.wikimedia.org will be updated this week. You won't be able to access it from 22:00 UTC on February 12 until 01:00 UTC on February 13 at the latest.
 * The  tag will be renamed to  . The old tag will still work.

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Thank you
Can you please not delete my "Bubzbeauty" page! It has references to articles and proper citations. Also she is notable enough to have a Wikipedia page as she is one of the most subscribed YouTube personalities from the United Kingdom!This page should not be deleted!!! She has been interviewed by multiple online magazines and is notable enough to be on Wikipedia! The page also has proper sources and refrences! Please do not delete!

That last message was from me. Kewtea (talk) 16:54, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Accept Revision bug
FYI: Accept Revision bug happening now at Huntington's disease and Disaster. —Anomalocaris (talk) 19:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The entry that shows ClueBot reviewed the page is there, so presumably some views are just out of date. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-08
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf14) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on February 13. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on February 18, and all Wikipedia wikis on February 20 (calendar).
 * You can now use the list of active users again. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41078] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/111258/]
 * The new search tool (CirrusSearch) now gives more importance to content namespaces if you search in several namespaces. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61053]
 * You can now directly link to files viewed with MultimediaViewer, the new tool for viewing media files. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56469]
 * You can read the summary of the Wikimedia technical report for January 2014.

Problems
 * On February 9, Wikimedia Labs was broken for about 2 hours due to an XFS file system problem.
 * On February 11, there were problems with VisualEditor for about 20 minutes due to a server logging issue.
 * On the same day, for about 20 minutes there were issues with page loading due to database problems.
 * There were issues with page loading between 21:00 UTC on February 13 and 11:00 UTC on February 14 for users in Europe. It was due to a cache server problem.
 * On February 14, all sites were broken for about 15 minutes for users in Southeast Asia, Oceania and the western part of North America. It was due to problems with cache servers.

VisualEditor news
 * The link tool now tells you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50240]
 * You can now change image display (like thumbnail, frame and frameless) with VisualEditor. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38129]
 * Wikitext warnings will now hide when you remove wikitext from paragraphs you are editing. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51701]
 * You will soon be able to create and edit redirect pages with VisualEditor. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50878] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47328] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57173]

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Please comment on Talk:Asma al-Assad
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Tech News: 2014-09
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf15) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on February 20. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on February 25, and all Wikipedia wikis on February 27 (calendar).
 * The new search tool (CirrusSearch) was added to the Italian Wikiquote and all Wikiversity projects. Users can now enable it in their Beta options. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/114156/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/114169/]
 * The Universal Language Selector was enabled on all Wikimedia wikis again. You can enable web fonts in your ULS options (see how).

VisualEditor news
 * You will soon be able to add and edit, and in the page settings menu. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57173] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57167] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57168]
 * You will soon be able to use the Ctrl +Alt +S or <kbd class="keyboard-key nowrap" style="border:1px solid #AAA;background:#F9F9F9;padding:1px 3px">⌘ +<kbd class="keyboard-key nowrap" style="border:1px solid #AAA;background:#F9F9F9;padding:1px 3px">Opt +<kbd class="keyboard-key nowrap" style="border:1px solid #AAA;background:#F9F9F9;padding:1px 3px">S shortcuts to open the save window in VisualEditor. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50897] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/110434/]
 * You will soon be able to preview your edit summary when checking your changes in the save window. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42139] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/112490/]

Future software changes
 * You will soon be able to use the tag again. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59798]
 * You will soon be able to post messages with the MassMessage tool in all talk namespaces. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60132] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/94698/]
 * Notifications will soon work in all namespaces. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55491][//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56311][//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/93508/]

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Proposed deletion
Please stop prodding basketball articles right after I removed the tag and added sources. If you really believe the articles are not notable, take it to AfD. I, as an uninvolved editor, have contested the decision, so therefore it doesn't need to be added again. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 03:11, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that; I didn't realize they'd been PROD'd before. I'll take them to AfD. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:12, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, upon looking closer, it appears you're confusing PROD and BLPPROD. Except for the names, they're entirely separate deletion processes. It seems you've only removed BLPPROD's, whereas I've added PROD's. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:18, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * So far all of the players you've PRODded at all either meet GNG or are close enough you should go the AfD route anyway. Rikster2 (talk) 15:32, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * What's the harm in PROD'ing borderline articles? If they get contested, I can AfD anyway, and if not, it saves bureaucracy. Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:14, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you doing any sort of search to determine if they meet GNG? I'd argue AfD is much more likely to result in a fully fleshed out article for someone who is actually notable. Which feels like it's more in the spirit of the encyclopedia.  Rikster2 (talk) 18:42, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * For the articles currently in question, I didn't, because nothing in the articles seemed to indicate a claim of notability. When I'm looking at articles that do somehow claim notability, I take more care in checking for sources. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:06, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, you didn't do anything wrong, just more of a philosophy thing. I've reached out to the editor who created these articles to see if I can help him put a better product out there. Rikster2 (talk) 19:41, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem with good faith PRODs. However, I ask you to reconsider opening AFDs like Articles for deletion/Chris Babb after the PROD was contested on the grounds of WP:GNG and additional sources were added to the article.  Opening that AfD with the same PROD reason, failing WP:NBASKETBALL, disregards that WP:GNG can be met by a player even though they may not satisfy  WP:NBASKETBALL. Thanks. —Bagumba (talk) 20:22, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The article Chris Babb still looks rather borderline to me. Only one of the AfD's I filed for these got any keep !votes, and I withdrew that one. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:26, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * At least for cases where GNG is claimed (as it was when I contested the PROD), it would be helpful if the deletion rationale explained why GNG was not met. WP:NSPORTS does say that "Failing to meet the criteria in this guideline means that notability will need to be established in other ways (e.g. the general notability guideline ..."—Bagumba (talk) 20:35, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay. I'll make sure to clarify that in future nominations. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:36, 25 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, in my experience there is a larger group of editors that check out AfDs than prods. The articles as created probably did not pass the notability guidelines, but they do now, thanks to editor who came across it at AfD. Also, I have voted for keep on several of the AfDs, so its not as if they are completely not notable. Chris Babb may be a little iffy, but he was a solid contributor on an NCAA tournament team a year ago. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 21:19, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I have no doubt you are trying to improve things. Also consider in the future WP:ATD-T, i.e. tagging the article with notability if you are not sure if fails GNG.—Bagumba (talk) 21:56, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Chris Babb
I was just wondering, as you closed the E. J. Singler deletion debate, would you be able to do the same for Chris Babb ? DaHuzyBru (talk) 08:07, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't, since another user !voted delete. Jackmcbarn (talk) 13:27, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

The Act of Murder
OK, unprotected. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Articles for creation March 2014 Backlog Elimination Drive
<div style="border: 2px solid #484898; background: #FFF; background-color:#98FB98; padding: 1ex 1ex 1ex 1.5ex; margin: 0px 0px 1em 1em; font-size: 99%"> Hello Jackmcbarn:

WikiProject AFC is holding a  month long Backlog Elimination Drive!

The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from March 1, 2014 to March 31, 2014.

Awards will be given out for all reviewers participating in the drive in the form of barnstars at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

A new version of our AfC helper script has been released! It includes many bug fixes, new improvements and features, code enhancements, and more. If you want to see a full list of changes, visit the changelog. Please report bugs and feature requests there, too! Thanks. Posted by on 02:12, 28 February 2014 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk), on behalf of WikiProject Articles for creation

Tech News: 2014-10
<section begin="technews-2014-W10"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. <section begin="tech-newsletter-software-news"/> Recent software changes


 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf16) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on February 27. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on March 4, and all Wikipedia wikis on March 6 (calendar).
 * When users enable web fonts by default, Universal Language Selector will now log if they don't have fonts to display pages correctly. This information will be used by developers to improve font support in the future. Read more about missing fonts. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/113876/]
 * You can now use Guided tours on the Czech and Japanese Wikipedia. If you want this tool on your wiki, you need to [//translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=ext-guidedtour&filter=&language=&action=translate translate it] and ask in [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org Bugzilla]. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/115824/]
 * You can now use information from Wikidata in all Wikisource wikis. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/115393/]
 * The multimedia team is now posting weekly updates on their mailing list.

VisualEditor news
 * You can now change image size to default for your wiki. If you add new images to pages, they will also be default size. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47804] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50379] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/114420/]
 * If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56465]
 * Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61289]
 * VisualEditor now has Arabic, Finnish and Kölsch icons for text styling. If you want icons for your language, ask in Bugzilla. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/115636/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/115512/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/115424/]

Future software changes <section end="tech-newsletter-software-news"/> Problems
 * The new tool for viewing media files will soon show a progress bar and a thumbnail while loading full images. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/113963/] [//wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/multimedia/cards/146]
 * You will soon be able to make user contributions show only page creations. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42026] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/115189/]
 * Article Feedback Tool will be removed from the English and French Wikipedias on March 3. It will also no longer be possible to add this tool to any Wikimedia wiki. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61163]
 * Wikis using the new search tool will come back to the old tool for a few hours starting at 00:00 UTC on March 6. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61879]
 * For about an hour on February 23, there were problems with page loading due to a MediaWiki bug. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/114994/]

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Revision of Article on Jesus
The article on Jesus, section entitled "Crucifixion and burial," currently states: "In Matthew 27:62–66, on the following day the Jews ask Pilate for the tomb to be sealed with a stone and placed under guard to ensure the body will remain there." This sentence is completely erroneous. Gospel Matthew 27:60 clearly states that Joseph of Arimethea was responsible for placing the large stone over the entrance to the tomb after the body of Jesus had been prepared.

Matthew27: [60] And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.

The offending sentence under the section entitled "Crucifixion and burial," should be rewritten: "In Matthew 27:62–66, on the following day the chief Jewish priests ask Pilate for the tomb to be secured, and with Pilate's permission the priests place seals on the entrance stone and set a guard."

This serves to bring the statement into conformity with Matthew 27:65–66, which reads:

"[65] Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can. [66] So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch."

Jasfay 03/03/14  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasfay (talk • contribs) 23:36, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * If you want to request an edit be made to the article on Jesus, post it at Talk:Jesus. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

68.41.77.159
you seem to have reported a comment that i made on terrorists when what I said was not racist at all I said " the Taliban is all Muslim." that is not racist at all in fact it is true not all Muslims are terrorist but most terrorists are Muslim I have a boy that came home two years ago and his squad automatic firer had his spine pierced by shrapnel and now he is a paraplegic so I unfortunately carry some dislike for terrorists but I am Catholic and I am not a racist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.41.77.159 (talk) 00:53, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what your comment was exactly. In any case, the system you submitted the comment with has been removed, so there's no use discussing it further. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:03, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Article decline & speedy deletion.
--Jpgovekar (talk) 02:20, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Abbreviation field on Template:Infobox_university
Although I am a Wikipedia enthusiast, the policies here still confuse me so much that I end up avoiding complex editions. I have been flirting for a while, however, with the idea of adding an "abbreviation" field to university infoboxes. I have left a message on the talk page for the infobox template but I've got no reply so far. I am contacting you because you were the last person to edit the infobox university page and you seem rather involved. Do you think it's a valid edition? Should I raise the question anywhere else before editing it myself? Thank you, Ariel Pontes (talk) 09:23, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and submit the edit request (the page is protected). Jackmcbarn (talk) 13:35, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

New redirects
You'll recall this discussion when you enabled the software to tag redirects that are left behind when a page is renamed with R from move. Hypothetical: If there were a  and an rcat named R newly created, which would populate the category, then is it possible for the software to tag a redirect soon or immediately after it is first created? If so, then the category could be monitored to ensure that newly created redirects are correctly categorized. Is this possible? –  Paine Ellsworth   <b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">C LIMAX !</b> 18:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I'd want a method to automatically uncategorize them once they're not new anymore first. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:07, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It would have to be monitored on an equable basis, and yet, I do understand your concern. The category would be like the other redirect maintenance cats, and I would monitor it.  Also, it occurs to me that there already exists a  that is populated by the bare (no rcats added) This is a redirect template.  Perhaps that cat and template could be used for this purpose?  I would definitely monitor that category to keep it clear. –   Paine Ellsworth   <b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">C LIMAX !</b> 20:05, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Another issue I just thought of is that this would make it impossible for non-admins to revert any moves once they're no longer new. What would the purpose of this category be, anyway? Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:05, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Every redirect I've come across that the R from move has auto-tagged has needed at least one other rcat, so those moves can now only be reverted by admins. New redirects left behind by moves is one segment of all newly created redirects.  This category will be useful to monitor all newly created redirects and to sort them when necessary.  The new redirects will be removed from the miscellaneous category after at least one rcat is added to the This is a redirect template.  The miscellaneous cat is presently very sparsely used by some editors who are not sure what rcats and cats to use.  They tag the redirect with the bare This is a redirect template so a monitor will come by and finish the sorts.  When we implement this new procedure, the category will continue with the small purpose of usefulness to unsure editors and also have the larger purpose of maintenance of newly formed redirects. –   Paine Ellsworth   <b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">C LIMAX !</b> 20:57, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I really don't see how that's useful. If you get consensus for it on a village pump, I'll set it up, though. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:39, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you! For now, it's good to know that it's doable.  I'll see what I can put together for the pump.  Joys! –   Paine Ellsworth   <b style="font-size:x-small; color:blue;">C LIMAX !</b> 05:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-11
<section begin="technews-2014-W11"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. <section begin="tech-newsletter-software-news"/> Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf17) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on March 6. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on March 11, and all Wikipedia wikis on March 13 (calendar).
 * You can now use the new search tool (CirrusSearch) on all Wikiquote projects. You can now enable it in your Beta options. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/116919/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/116992/]

VisualEditor news
 * It is now easier to edit templates. Complex tools are now in the "advanced" mode. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61822] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55434]
 * It is also easier to edit images. You now have more options and they are explained better. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61059]
 * VisualEditor adds fake blank lines so you can put your cursor there. They are now smaller and animated to be different from actual blank lines. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47790]
 * We have improved the tool to add special characters. The buttons are now larger. More changes are coming. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/116661/]
 * You can now use new keyboard shortcuts to undo the last action, clear formatting, and show the shortcut help window. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53356] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52140] [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56453]

Future software changes <section end="tech-newsletter-software-news"/> Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by MediaWiki message delivery • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. <section end="technews-2014-W11"/> 09:10, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You will soon be able to use a Beta option to show a shorter list of language links. That way, Universal Language Selector will only show languages that are relevant to you. You will still be able to search for other languages. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/116726/]
 * CirrusSearch will soon automatically index newly imported pages. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60053] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/116896/]
 * It will soon be possible to use CSS to style buttons in templates on all Wikimedia wikis, without needing JavaScript. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/114085/]
 * An IRC discussion with the Wikimedia Foundation Language Engineering team will take place on March 12 at 17:00 UTC on the channel #wikimedia-office on Freenode (time conversion).

Request for speedy deletion of module
Can an admin delete Module:Location map/data as G7? (CSD tags don't work on module pages). I know it appears to have 50000 transclusions, but these are not "real" and appear only because the job queue is behind. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:32, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Try the talk page and request it from there. ///Euro Car  GT  16:40, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅. JohnCD (talk) 17:51, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Module:Location map
If neither Module:Location_map/data/... nor Template:Location_map_... exists, the following error is raised:

expandTemplate: template "Location map UK Scotland" does not exist Backtrace:

[C]: in function "expandTemplate" mw.lua:411: in function "expandTemplate" Module:Location_map:29: in function "map" Module:Location_map:110: in function "top" Module:Location_map:150: in function "chunk" mw.lua:558: ? [C]: in function "expandTemplate" mw.lua:411: in function "expandTemplate" Module:Documentation:640: in function "_content" Module:Documentation:141: ? (tail call): ? mw.lua:558: ?

(Note: this happens in thwiki, not enwiki)

In my opinion, we should make a tracking category for non-existing templates, but we should not let the script throw the error like this. --Nullzero (talk) 20:03, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * If neither the module nor the template exists, then it wasn't called properly (and it would have made an ugly mess in the old non-Lua version of the template). What do you want to happen in that case exactly? Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:06, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


 * My idea is that if it is possible, we should catch errors as many as possible and categorize pages containing those errors, so people can precisely fix them. For example, if Module:Citation/CS1 didn't catch errors, we would see a lot of pages in Category:Pages_with_script_errors, but people would not be able to figure it out easily what problem it is. With Category:CS1_errors:_dates, we can see that pages falling in this category are missing parameter "date." In the same way, if neither the module nor the template exists, it would be nice to have a tracking category for this case.
 * It is true that this case means the module wasn't called properly, and the goal for doing tracking category is to fix it. Also, since we switched to lua version already, why do we have to care about the old version? --Nullzero (talk) 20:55, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * We don't care about the old version. I was just saying I didn't make the problem any worse. Anyway, rather than making a new category to fix that, I think looking for redlinked transcluded templates would be a better fix. Does thwiki run database reports for those? Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, when you click on the words "Script error", it tells you the problem:  Jackmcbarn (talk) 21:14, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry that I didn't make it clear. I didn't say that you did something wrong. Rather, I just suggested for an improvement. Since lua can handle errors very easy, compared to using only template and parser functions, it would be nice to do all I mentioned above. Anyway, I don't have any difficulty from fixing those script errors in Thai Wikipedia because there are very few errors. So, if you think that this module is fine enough, it's fine. Thank you anyway :) --Nullzero (talk) 02:30, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I've just updated the module to improve the error messages it generates. Is this a good solution? Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:18, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep. It is better than only showing "script error" without any reason. Thank you very much :) --Nullzero (talk) 22:54, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Technical move of Alaska templates -- two errors
Hello Jack. Can you tell why I would get these errors on doing the move:
 * The page Template:Location map USA Alaska/sandbox could not be moved to Module:Location map/data/USA Alaska/attribution/sandbox.
 * The page Template:Location map USA Alaska/testcases could not be moved to Module:Location map/data/USA Alaska/attribution/testcases.

Any suggestions of what to do next are welcome. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 01:48, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't need the subpages moved. (In fact, I'm going to tag them for CSD G8 after the move). Just don't worry about them. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:53, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Rationale for removing Lua from Template:Incomplete/doc
I would like to understand why was removed from the documentation. The first line of contains which does invoke Lua. However, that was a wrapper around the body of the template that was not converted to Lua. Is that why? How can one tell which invocation is spurious and which is not? Does the entire template have to invoke a complete Lua substitute? Just curious?
 * 1) invoke:Unsubst

PS. I'm fairly new at discussions and didn't know whether to post this general question here or on the template's talk page. Dpleibovitz (talk) 23:36, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Basically, the template needs to be nothing but Lua for the lua tag to be eligible. Template:Infobox and Template:Edit protected are two good examples. If a template happens to use some Lua, but is mostly other stuff, it doesn't need the lua tag. Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:41, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * for your prompt reply Dpleibovitz (talk) 23:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-12
<section begin="technews-2014-W12"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. <section begin="tech-newsletter-software-news"/> Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf18) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on March 13. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on March 18, and all Wikipedia wikis on March 20 (calendar).
 * You can now view smaller versions of PNG images bigger than 20 megapixels. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/117809/]
 * You can now use the new search tool (CirrusSearch) on all [//noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=small.dblist small] wikis. You can now enable it in your Beta options. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/118482/] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/118638/]
 * You can read a summary of the Wikimedia technical report for February 2014.

VisualEditor news
 * Searching for template parameters in now case-insensitive. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51673] [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/117305/]
 * Required template parameters now have an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/117327/]
 * Several template dialogs are now smaller, and their insert buttons have changed wording. [//bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50998]

Future software changes <section end="tech-newsletter-software-news"/> Problems
 * You will soon see an error message if you try to log-in or register with an invalid or taken username. [//gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/117437/]
 * You can now test first version of a tool that includes OpenStreetMap maps inside the UploadWizard. Comments are welcome.
 * You will soon be able to use the Hovercards tool as a beta feature.
 * VisualEditor was slow to load on March 13 because of an API issue.

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User talk:77.251.154.154
Thanks for the notification. GiantSnowman 18:40, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of countries by average wage
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List of PlayStation 3 games
see this request. 174.56.57.138 (talk) 21:47, 23 March 2014 (UTC)