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Re: Battle of Cape St. Vincent (1797)
Hey, I write this in answer to your question on my talkpage about where my data came from when I upgraded the (in comparison shamefully scarce) Spanish OoB of said battle. The answer is simple: I ported/translated it from the respective section from Batalla del Cabo de San Vicente (1797), which is the equivalent article about the battle on the Spanish-speaking wikipedia. Interestingly, in turn I had to port/translate the English OoB from here to the Spanish wiki as it didn´t have any British OoB at all. As for the, likewise ported, divisions instead of no sign or grouping at all please keep in mind that divisions are a form of organisation that could (could) be completely independent of the battle, are not equal to stations and don´t neccessarily need to correlate with any of the actual stations or positions during the battle. I´m not much into the topic so I can´t tell you if those division were permanent or temporary. As far as the sources are concerned you´ll find them in the article but I myself have no full access to them. Anyway good luck with your work ...GELongstreet (talk) 00:19, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, this was helpful - I found an excellent source, which has been useful for a number of other things too!--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:59, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Action of 22 October 1793
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Silent Parade GA Good Articles Designation
Hello.. Jackyd101 (talk) You sent a message on my User Page regarding a request I made to make Silent_Parade a GA Good Article. In fact, you sent several. I apologize for not responding, I did not see them until now. If it is not too late, I am at your disposal, and will be watching my talk page for your response. Thanks! Haxwell (talk) 04:17, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Action of 22 October 1793
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Your GA nomination of Court-martial of James, Lord Gambier
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Your GA nomination of Court-martial of James, Lord Gambier
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Your GA nomination of Battle of Mykonos
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Your GA nomination of Action of 24 June 1795
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Your GA nomination of Battle of Mykonos
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Your GA nomination of Action of 24 June 1795
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Your GA nomination of Battle of Mykonos
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Your GA nomination of Martin's cruise of 1794
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 * Ping.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:20, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Some observations about Battle of Camperdown
On the Talk-page of Action of 22 August 1795 you asked me to have a look at your GA article Battle of Camperdown with a view to introduce some Dutch material. First of all, I do not pretend to be an expert on the subject, but I can Google like anyone, so I had a look at Google books and found some links that might interest you. I have put those in a new section on the Talk-page of Battle of Camperdown for your perusal. The harvest is meagre, because the subject is (understandably) slightly distasteful to Dutch historians. The reason for that you'll find in my own GA article Batavian Republic, in the Historiography segment at the very end. As you know, the period between 1784 (the humiliating end of the Fourth Anglo-Dutch War) and 1813 (when Dutch independence was restored) was one of great partisanship between the Orangist and Patriot factions in the Dutch Republic. The Orangists ultimately won, and proceeded to rewrite history in their image. When I was a boy this whole period of the Patriot revolution of 1785; followed by its Anglo-Prussian repression in 1787 (putting up stadtholder William V as puppet-dictator); followed by the defeat of the Coalition by the French revolutionary forces in 1795; followed by the Batavian Revolution and the founding of the Batavian Republic; which was then forced to accept Napoleon's brother as king in 1806; followed by the annexation to the French Empire in 1810; and finally ended by the French defeat in 1813, followed by the usurpation of the (new) throne by the son of William V (whom nobody calls "William VI" for some reason); is referred to by the deprecatory moniker "the French time", as if the Dutch themselves had nothing to do with it. The Patriots received a very bad press in all this as the "bad guys" (in my time often smeared with the brush of the Nazi quislings in the second world war) and no doubt, they deserved some of it due to their collaboration with the Bonapartist French up to the bitter end. But "post hoc" is not "propter hoc" and the Patriots started out as the "good guys" in 1795 and kept that up for a remarkable number of years. In any case, the discussion between Dutch historians about the subject (and its ancillaries, like the Batavian navy and its exploits) is still heated. So the best source for a balanced and emotionally neutral view of the matter is a British one: Simon Schama's ''Patriots and Liberators. Revolution in the Netherlands 1780-1813'', New York 1977, Vintage books, ISBN 0-679-72949-6. The book seems to be out of print, but may be available in your local library. Highly recommended reading, if you don't know it. Because (reading between the lines of your article) you seem to be rather strongly influenced by a biased view of the background of the conflict in your Anglophone military-history sources. This was to be expected: military historians are not specialized in political history of foreign countries, and so tend to adopt the view of their betters, the generalists. And those generalists tend to have a dog in this fight, influenced as they are by the Official View of the contemporary British government, who saw the whole matter in terms of the Violation of the (pretended) Rights of the Stadtholder, which they were Duty Bound (as guarantors of the 1788 Act of Guarantee) to put right. So, if the Orangists were not skewing the perspective, the British propagandists of the day would do it. If I may be allowed to vent a grievance about British military history, it is that (especially in the 19th century) it may be reduced to the following caricature: when British forces were allied with foreign forces (be they Dutch or Russian, for instance) during a battle, the allies (especially the Dutch) "ran away" and it was left to the "thin red line" to carry the day and gallantly defeat the Foe (keeping a stiff upper lip in the process). One won't find a similar bias in Dutch histories of the same events. At most it would be remarked that the Brits arrived late at the battle scene and had an easy time mopping up the enemy forces, already bloodied and wearied by the exhausted Dutch :-) And this explains the difference between the accounts: British historians only read British accounts and what participants in the event don't witness they tend not to report about.

However this may be, I think you did a remarkable job with this article, but some passages unpleasantly hit my eye, like this sentence at the end of the introductory paragraph: "When British forces confronted the Dutch Navy again two years later in the Vlieter Incident, the Dutch sailors, confronted with superior British fire power as they had been at Camperdown and in the face of pro Orangist insurrection, abandoned their ships and surrendered en masse." Here cause and effect are confused, as should be clear from the Vlieter Incident article. The mutineers did not surrender because they were impressed by British firepower and demoralized by a pro-Orangist insurrection (Simon Schama shows how little support that "insurrection" really had), as the sentence suggests, but they were just a bunch of Orangist mercenaries (most not even Dutch, as the Batavians had difficulty interesting Dutchmen in serving in the fleet) that did what they had done at countless previous occasions (Saldanha Bay comes to mind): threaten to throw their officers overboard and force them to capitulate without a fight. This is admittedly embarrassing, but it should be acknowledged. What should be even more embarrassing was that the son of the stadtholder conspired with a foreign power to undermine the government of his country and helped deliver its warships in the hands of that power (while his father later financially profited from the sale of those warships; cf. James, W.M. (2002). The Naval History of Great Britain: During the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars. Vol. 2 1797-1799. Stackpole books. pp. 309–310.) Some would call this treason.

Another passage, further down that I think is questionable (in view of the text of the Batavian Republic article) is the following: " The French then reorganised the country as a client state named the Batavian Republic ..." which seems wholly in the style of the historiography that I objected against above. But these are only a few random remarks.

More importantly, I would like to offer a more subtle general objection. At first glance you (following your sources) appear to be very generous, lauding the bravery against the odds of the Dutch foes, and presenting them as formidable opponents (even more formidable than the French and the Spaniards, one might infer), who managed to exact a bloody toll on the British. But was the Dutch fleet at Camperdown really that formidable? Not according to the few Dutch sources I perused. It is generally admitted that the Dutch fleet was no shadow of its 17th-century forebears; that the Dutch commanders were no military geniuses (the three main commanders, De Winter, Story and Beelaaerts were clearly political appointments, who barely had commanded ships themselves before the revolution); and that at least parts of the crews showed questionable fortitude (like that of the Wassenaer that had to be persuaded by fire from a Dutch brig to rehoist its colors, after it had prematurely struck them, only to strike them again as soon as possible). In other words, the picture painted by British historians appears to be overly generous: was the victory really as great as depicted (and does it warrant its own great hall in the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich)? I may be overly cynical, but I think this generosity may be explained by the need of the British government after the mutinies earlier in 1797, to raise the morale of the British public, with a resounding victory over an inflated enemy. Propaganda, in other words. But maybe I am overly suspicious :-)

I hope these remarks are of some use to you--Ereunetes (talk) 00:12, 21 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I have spent my Christmas week on comparing Johannes Cornelis de Jonge's chapter on the Battle of Camperdown in Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen (vol. 5) with the article and the result is on the talk page of the article. (But I was snowed in anyway :-) I hope you'll take the time to read the suggestions for edits, though it is a lengthy piece. The suggested edits mostly are minor deletes and possibly a footnote here and there. But I had to formulate an argument for each suggestion (which initially is probably unwelcome, as it contradicts the English historians you used), and provide documentary justification. I provided a link to the book in Google books, so you may check each reference yourself (or have a trusted Dutch reader check it for you). I think all edits are serious enough to warrant consideration. I also made a few suggestions for clarifications in the text on subjects like sailing of square-rigged vessels, naval tactics of the day, and naval strategy that may make it easier for the reader to visualize the way the battle developed. I will not make the edits myself, because I know from experience how annoying it is to have someone mess up one's article. Besides, you would have to correct my grammar anyway, so you'd better do it right the first time :-)--Ereunetes (talk) 22:41, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for this detailed analysis, I have been watching it build over the last few days and it is very impressive. I'm a bit snowed under work wise at the moment, but I will take a look at this in the near future and add your excellent research into the article. Thanks again, and Happy New Year!--Jackyd101 (talk) 22:50, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * De nada :-) Glad to be of assistance. I enjoyed doing it, as I learned a lot myself.--Ereunetes (talk) 23:54, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * You are welcome, thank you!--Jackyd101 (talk) 00:33, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Martin's cruise of 1794
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Gevninge helmet fragment
Hey there Jackyd101, just letting you know that I've recently taken an article you reviewed at GA, Gevninge helmet fragment, to FAC. It's been expanded and polished since your review last year. If you'd like to weigh in again I'd obviously appreciate it, but regardless, thanks again for your input last time around! --Usernameunique (talk) 14:00, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election half-way mark
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The Bugle: Issue CLXII, October 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIII, November 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIV, December 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXV, January 2020
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The Bugle: IssueICLXVI, February 2020
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March Madness 2020
G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXVIII, April 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXX, June 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXI, July 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXII, August 2020
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:05, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue Issue CLXXIII, September 2020
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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:817 births


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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIV, October 2020
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Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:56, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Category:Shipwrecks of the Biscay coast has been nominated for renaming
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Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, November 2020
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Nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject Newcomer and Historian of the Year awards now open
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, December 2020
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Voting for "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" closing
G'day all, voting for the WikiProject Military history "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" is about to close, so if you haven't already, click on the links and have your say before 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, January 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021
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April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXII, June 2021
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GAN Backlog Drive - July 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIII, July 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nomination period closing soon
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WikiProject Military history coordinator election voting has commenced
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting period closing soon
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Category:Victims of the RMS Titanic has been nominated for renaming
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, November 2021
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Survey about History on Wikipedia (If you reside in the United States)
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Nomination of German submarine U-2321 for deletion
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, December 2021
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GAN Backlog Drive – January 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, January 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIV, February 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, March 2022
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Battle of Tellicherry has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. TrangaBellam (talk) 18:40, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022
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Thanks
Hi, while I see you don't really edit anymore, just thought I'd thank you for the work you put in over the years here. I come across your articles quite (very?) often; you've made a large impact in what is a rather niche field. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 11:47, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * That is very kind of you, thank you. It was a real pleasure to work on these articles, and I do miss doing it - its been five years since I had the time properly. I became a professional historian (in another field), and my writing time is taken up with publications these days, but I learned my trade here.  Few harsher critics than a wikipedia reviewer. Jackyd101 (talk) 22:23, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVI, July 2022
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Orphaned non-free image File:Henry Blagrove.jpg
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVII, August 2022
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations opening soon
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Correction to previous election announcement
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, September 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, October 2022
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Precious anniversary
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The Bugle: Issue CXCIX, November 2022
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The Bugle: Issue CC, December 2022
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Persian Gulf Campaign of 1809
Hi Jackyd101, in trying to fix a cite to The Victory of Seapower in that article, I believe I found an error. The ref in the article gives the editor as Gardner, and I believe the author should be Woodman. Cheers, Acad Ronin (talk) 12:46, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Not actively editing these days, but from memory the editor of the volume is Robert Gardner, but the writer of that section is Woodman as you suggest. Was probably a copy/paste error. Jackyd101 (talk) 13:11, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 202, February 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023
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Good article reassessment for 152 mm howitzer M1943 (D-1)
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The Bugle: Issue 204, April 2023
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TFL notification
Hi, Jackyd101. I'm just posting to let you know that Order of battle at the Battle of Tory Island – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for May 1. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008  ( Talk ) 20:48, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Phil Simms
Phil Simms has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Thebiguglyalien ( talk ) 20:32, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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Nomination of Kasganj level crossing disaster for deletion
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The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023
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Good article reassessment for Jean de Carrouges
Jean de Carrouges has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Molly Holly
Molly Holly has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster  (chat!)  08:07, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 207, July 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 208, August 2023
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Good article reassessment for Konnan
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Good article reassessment for Evan Lysacek
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election have opened. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:05, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 209, September 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 210, October 2023
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Good article reassessment for Paul Dickov
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The Bugle: Issue 211, November 2023
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Good article reassessment for Kapil Dev as Indian national cricket coach
Kapil Dev as Indian national cricket coach has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster  (chat!)  08:02, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Brian Adams (wrestler)
Brian Adams (wrestler) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Spinixster  (chat!)  03:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 212, December 2023
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Voting for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2023 is now open!
Voting is now open for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2023! The the top editors will be awarded the coveted Gold Wiki. Cast your votes vote here and here respectively. Voting closes at 23:59 on 30 December 2023. On behalf of the coordinators, wishing you the very best for the festive season and the new year. via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:56, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 213, January 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 214, February 2024
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Good article reassessment for Annika Sörenstam
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Orphaned non-free image File:Thompson Capper.jpg
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The Bugle: Issue 215, March 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 216, April 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 217, May 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024
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The Bugle: Issue 219, July 2024
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TFL notification for August 2024
Hi, Jackyd101. I'm just posting to let you know that Order of battle at the Battle of the Nile – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for August 9. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008  ( Talk ) 21:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)