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Renaming Averof article
Please stop trying to rename the Greek cruiser Giorgios Averof article. It is already properly named in accordance with WP:NCSHIPS.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:02, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

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Moving Yugoslav league to just First Federal League
I don't think that's a good idea. "First Federal League" is extremely vague for English Wikipedia. That's not nearly descriptive enough for an article title for a non English speaking league, and it also could cause a lot of problems with redirects. Plenty of articles could be named First federal league, which will cause problems with future article names and redirects.Bluesangrel (talk)

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Panathinaikos and Superfoods sponsor
I just wanted to let you know that it's not a name sponsor. The owner of the basketball club also owns the foods store, and so he uses the basketball club as free ads for his food stores. But it's not an actual club name sponsor, and the club gets no money from it all.Bluesangrel (talk)

Ways to improve 1991 IX ACB International Tournament "VIII Memorial Héctor Quiroga"
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Ways to improve 1989 VII ACB International Tournament "VI Memorial Héctor Quiroga"
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Ways to improve 1987 V ACB International Tournament "IV Memorial Héctor Quiroga"
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Ways to improve 1986 IV ACB International Tournament "III Memorial Héctor Quiroga"
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Speedy deletion nomination of KK Kvarner in European and worldwide competitions
Hello Jaco IV,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged KK Kvarner in European and worldwide competitions for deletion, because it's too short to identify the subject of the article.

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 Diako  « Talk » 07:17, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Basketball: Yugoslavia / Serbia
I think the following discussion is interesting for you: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 10:46, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Not wiki liking EuroLeague Final Four
Hey. Why are you un wiki linking the EuroLeague Final Four at the honors sections of European basketball club articles? There is no reason to de wiki link EuroLeague Final Four to "Final Four". It's a separate article from EuroLeague, so why would you de wiki link that?Bluesangrel (talk) 23:04, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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Greek A2 league did not exist before 1986
Greek A2 league did not exist before 1986, so titles won in Greek 2nd division before that in Greek B league, should not be called "A2" league, because it's actually two completely different leagues. So lumping it together, and counting A2 for titles won before it existed is incorrect.Bluesangrel (talk) 07:43, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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Lega Basket Serie A
Please do not continue to revert my edits to the list of champions at this article, which is based directly on what the source says. WP:V is a core part of Wikipedia.Eldumpo (talk) 15:47, 30 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Stop hand nuvola.svg You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Lega Basket Serie A.  GiantSnowman 08:52, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * My edits are based on sources and I use the linkages of the official club's names as opposed the user Eldumpo who incorrectly insists on using linkages with club names that do not exist and he creates confusion. For example, there is no page in wikipedia about the lemma Borletti Milano. Borletti Milano was the current but not the official name of Pallacanestro Olimpia Milano but this basketball club had adopted many sponsorship names at its entire history and to avoid confusion the usual practice is to quote the likage the official name of the club and then to add the current name (look at the link ---> Borletti Milano or Simmenthal Milano or Simac Milano but not Borletti Milano or Simmenthal Milano or Simac Milano etc). Also the usual practice for the competitions that take place in two different years but in fact are one season, both are recorded. For example there is no 1990 Lega Basket Serie A Champion but 1989-90 or 2017 Lega Basket Serie A Champion but 2016-17 and so on, because the calendar was organized between these two years. To sum up, my edits are totally in line with the sources and above all with the official wikipedia edit practice and this can be seen by the contributions that I have started (they are recorded in my user page). Jaco IV (talk) 18:56, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You are editing disruptively. Why have you reverted two users without discussion? GiantSnowman 20:16, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

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November 2017
Please do not use styles that are unusual, inappropriate or difficult to understand in articles. There is a Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. Thank you. Snowflake91 (talk) 16:42, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Do not "fix" something that doesnt need to be fixed and was just fine for years, where did you see that you should write things like Runners-up? It should be either simply Runners-up or Runners-up (italicized), but the first letter should NOT be capitalized, same as the words which should be spelled out fully (3rd place ---> Third place, 4th place > Fourth place), those are basic MoS rules. Snowflake91  (talk) 17:03, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * Just want to let you know that you were reported at Administrators' noticeboard for edit warring, feel free to leave comments there. Snowflake91  (talk) 20:37, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Jaco IV, please reply at Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring as your edits and refusal to respond do look dubious. --Neil N  talk to me 20:49, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Neil N  talk to me 16:53, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

I've blocked you as you've seen fit to continue editing without responding. It's a short block but continuing the same editing practices will undoubtedly result in longer blocks in the future. --Neil N  talk to me 16:57, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of 1968 IV FIBA International Christmas Tournament
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Italian basketball clubs in European and worldwide competitions
I keep asking you to read WP:NOPIPE and WP:NOTBROKEN. They explain why I removed the piping (among many other improvements which you keep indiscriminately reverting). Please stop this warring. Colonies Chris (talk) 21:57, 23 February 2018 (UTC) There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Colonies Chris (talk) 16:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * if there are the correct links there is no need for any corrections. Jaco IV (talk) 00:03, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Please read those guides I have linked to and then come back here with your reasons you don't think you should comply. Then we can have a reasonable discussion. Colonies Chris (talk) 10:39, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You continue to revert my changes without explanation and without discussion. I am therefore taking this to WP:ANI.

I've asked you many times to please discuss things here, not just revert my changes. I'll say it again - please discuss here what's concerning you. I will continue to reinstate my changes as long as you revert without explanation or discussion. Colonies Chris (talk) 13:57, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
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Italian basketball clubs in European and worldwide competitions
I wanted to leave you a message because of a recent dispute that's been ongoing on this article (and possibly others as well). Colonies Chris has been repeatedly expressing concerns that you've been modifying this article in ways that he believes isn't correct or needs to be adjusted or fixed. He's repeatedly attempted to message you to try and establish communication with you, but you've mostly failed to discuss the issue with him. I do see that you replied on your user talk page to him here (which is good!), but there appears to be unanswered questions. He's cited Wikipedia policy and guideline pages with the assertion that your changes are incorrect per these policies and asked you to review them. It appears that you have not done so, nor have you attempted to interact with him to resolve this issue

I don't feel that the history and the number of reverts on the article between you two have stacked up to the level of edit warring, but it's clear that there's been a dispute with these changes for quite some time now and that communication has not been attempted to the level that's needed in order to resolve it. Therefore, I have fully protected the article until this dispute is resolved. Please discuss the dispute with Colonies Chris (preferably on the article's talk page), come to a agreement between the two of you, and let me know when I can remove the protection from the article.

I'm not one bit interested at all in "who is correct" or "whose argument is what the outcome should be"; my concerns here is the fact that there are legitimate concerns being expressed with your changes, a dispute regarding the changes to the article and if they're correct or not, and that very little communication or attempts to resolve the concerns have been attempted - which is not how we should be interacting and collaborating with others. Please remember that, as an editor, you're expected to respond to disputes in which you're involved, and to make a reasonable and fair attempt to resolve the concerns raised by others - not to ignore their concerns and resume editing the article anyways.

Please feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for your understanding and your attempts to get this issue resolved so we can all move on :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Ways to improve VC Nesselande
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 * Can you please respond? Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 19:50, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Sources and communication
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 * There are sources going back to August that you have not responded to. Please see my message above, and the many more further above that I have sent you. Please respond - it's Wikipedia policy but also basic manners. Boleyn (talk) 20:21, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

WP:ANI
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June 2018
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently adding unsourced or poorly sourced content. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:.  S warm   ♠  20:57, 18 June 2018 (UTC) --UTRSBot (talk) 17:08, 14 July 2018 (UTC)