User talk:JacobiJonesJr/Archive 1

=May 2014=

Notability and deletion
I see you've occupied yourself with tagging a lot of new articles. Thanks for your hard work. But I must remind that next time, please do not be afraid to tag articles for speedy deletion if a simple search on Google fails to establish notability. This will make our work much easier, as I am now sifting through the articles you have tagged to see if any of them might be worth deleting. Regards, 舎利弗 (talk) 07:57, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

And don't forget to check against copyright violations too. I have noticed at least three pages that you've patrolled to be copy-pasted from other websites. 舎利弗 (talk) 08:35, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

"Do It Again" deletion
Hi, I'm beatleswhobeachboys. I do not believe that "Do It Again" by The Kinks should be deleted, as it is one of The Kinks' last popular singles (hitting #41 in America). It was also praised by critics, and added on numerous compilation albums by The Kinks. I will attempt to expand the article, but I don't feel that it is not notable enough as a song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beatleswhobeachboys (talk • contribs) 14:29, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Comment on comments
Re - they are both linked to a BM webpage, not to any of the books. Johnbod (talk) 16:46, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

How to Improve
Dear JacobiJonesJr, what should I do to improve the piece titled 'Malik Mohammad Jehangir'? I am trying to do best with the contents and write-ups I write.I joined wiki couple of months back and in the process of learning.Looking forward to hear from you--Zainkazmi1 (talk) 20:51, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Secondary sources added[edit source] Dear JacobiJonesJr, because you added stub tag to International Association of Press Clubs I just corrected secondary sources. Is it ok now and stub can be

Takasebune
Dear JacobiJonesJr, I've added some references and tried to further establish the notability of my article; if you could look it over and possibly suggest other ways to improve things, that would be helpful. Acire93 (talk) 10:36, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for looking over my sources; I found a mention of the piece in an old NYT article (here's a link to the PDF; it's under the header "Paulownia" in the second paragraph). Is this a suitable enough source? I also wonder whether the article might be moved from "stub" to "start" class. Acire93 (talk) 20:11, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

It's been added (source #3). Thanks for helping me improve the article. Acire93 (talk) 20:28, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
Sir, I am thankful to you for your worthy suggestions but I make it clear here that few other websites were also taken in to consideration for its creation, for demographic data and its location, even I have visited the place. Please suggest me for avoiding such situations as occurred in Chillar, I shall be thankful for your guidance.Rajsector3 (talk) 17:41, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello Jacobi
My name is Jerry Borgg, I'm the creator of the Hapsburg Absinthe page. I created the page on the basis of establishing a universal connection to Absinthe. I misunderstood the guidelines and would like a chance to edit my page to make it more educational and less of an ad. Please allow me this chance as I am an advocate of absinthe looking to help the world understand more about Absinthe.

I need to edit the page you deleted it already. Thanks. please explain how my page was different from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_F%C3%A9e_Absinthe

=June 2014=

Regarding deletion of "Soundest" wikipedia page
Hello JacobiJonesJr, I received a notification that you marked this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundest for a deletion. I am a pretty new to Wikipedia so a little bit of your guidance would help me (because using wikipedia is not super easy). Could you specify which parts of my page look promotional. I tried to compare it with other similar pages but could not find why my page is more promotional like theirs. Some examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MailChimp, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopify, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant_Contact etc. Thank you in advance for sorting this out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Estimi2 (talk • contribs) 11:24, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note to self: replied 17 June 2014 JacobiJonesJr (talk) 03:26, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

=September 2014=

Moving page from AfC ✅
Hallo, while stub-sorting I came across the article Peteski132/Average Earnings Index (Horse Racing) which you had moved from AfC. There were three problems:
 * The article should have been moved to Average Earnings Index (Horse Racing), not to a title including the editor's username
 * The article should have been moved to Average Earnings Index (horse racing), because we don't use capital letters in disambiguation terms unless they are proper nouns
 * The article needed a hatnote to be added at Average Earnings Index, so that readers and other editors could find it.

I've done all the above, this time, but please take care in future when you're moving articles into mainspace. Thanks. Pam D  12:05, 6 September 2014 (UTC)


 * There was also a red error message showing up in relation to reference 3. It would have been helpful to either fix this yourself or suggest that the original editor do so, rather than just leave it: it only needed a change from "P" to "p". I've done it. [[User:PamD|Pam ]] D 12:24, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Request on 23:53:38, 6 September 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Alexei100❌
can you please tell me what's wrong. Please help.

Alexei100 (talk) 23:53, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Songs of Survival ✅
Thank you for reviewing my article, I have searched far and wide, as much as I could search on the internet, I could only find one article referencing this album, but I do have it personally, It is important to the Walking Dead franchise, as there is actually very little on Wikipedia on the 4 released albums. I actually only found one article that was barely connected to the Walking Dead main pages about "The Walking Dead: AMC Original Soundtrack, Vol. 1". There were 2 EP soundtracks released exclusively with the purchase of the seasons 3 & 4 from Walmart. I can find lots of articles on the 2nd "Songs of Survival" since it is recent, the first one was more obscure and not well advertised.

The track list wasn't anywhere that I could find online, besides on Discogs.com, and that entry was added by myself, so I figured that wouldn't be a good reference. Like I said that Discogs entry was based solely on the personal copy I own, and it is the same thing with the Track Listing. I am not sure If I did that Reference correctly for the Article, but If I didnt could you please direct me how to do so?

Xyberdawg (talk) 01:26, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note to self: replied.JacobiJonesJr (talk) 10:38, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Cornelius Inc Page
Hi There,

I noticed that you helped with some great fixes to my page that I created on Cornelius Inc. I wanted to thank you for your help and talk to you a little bit about an issue I am currently facing.

I am having a Wikipedia editor attack my page their username is SummerPHD and has been nominating the page for deletion. Where as you saw a few citation errors and let me know how to improve them. I have since improved on them and the page should be okay to let stay on Wikipedia.

Is there anyway that you can help solve this issue with this other editor??

Thank you for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcshanemichael90 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

AFCH script ✅
As you're using the old version of the AFCH script, please take a look at this discussion and the question (poll) raised below it. ( Reference: (diff | hist) . . Draft:XM‎; 02:35:25 . . (+156)‎ . . ‎JacobiJonesJr (Talk | contribs)‎ (Marking Wikipedia:Articles for creation submission as being reviewed (AFCH)) ). --Gryllida (talk) 11:02, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

XM ✅
Hi JacobiJonesJr,

Thank you for reviewing my article on XM. For this article I have worked for over a month with another Wikipedia reviewer, TimTrent to get it right, following all his instructions until everything was to his satisfaction.

You have said that this article was written as an advertisement. I strongly disagree, and would like to ask you why you are saying this. I have made sure that there are only facts (basic info, products, history) and there is absolutely nothing else. The reason I decided to write this article is because I am very familiar with the forex industry in Cyprus and have noticed that other companies are already listed on Wikipedia.

Please take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IronFX_Limited and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FxPro on which I based my article. These are exactly in the same industry (forex) and also based in Cyprus. Why are these companies' articles not an advertisement and my article is advertisement? If you can point at the exact line for my article that you think needs changing, please let me know and I will fix it.

Last, please note that I am not affiliated with this company in any way.

Many thanks,

Cmanoli (talk) 09:50, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi JacobiJonesJr,

Thanks for the good feedback. I have made the changes as per your comment so I trust everything is OK now. Could you please check again?

Many thanks.

P.S. As far as I know all Islamic accounts worldwide carry no interest anyway, so the part about "carrying no interest charged" was not specific to XM. However, I deleted it to clean up the article as per your suggestion.

Cmanoli (talk) 10:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi JacobiJonesJr,

I sent you a message on September 6 saying that the changes you requested have been made to article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:XM

As I have not heard from you, could you please confirm to me know that the article is OK now?

Many thanks,

Cmanoli (talk) 22:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I am currently consulting with others right now on this, sorry for the delay.JacobiJonesJr (talk) 03:35, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi JacobiJonesJr,

Many thanks for your work today and for reviewing and approving my XM article. I am thinking I should probably also upload a logo to the article's infobox, but will need to do some homework first to confirm there are no copyright issues with uploading such images to Wikipedia --I am not quite familiar with Wikipedia's image/photo policies.

One more thing I wanted to ask you is regarding the Trade Point article which I created at the request of user TimTrent to accompany this one. Trade Point is the holding company that XM belongs to. Do you think it would be useful for readers to see that article as well? As there is a note that XM is currently an "orphan article", I am thinking that I can fix this by adding the Trade Point article which is already written as draft but needs a review. If you have any further feedback or recommended fixes for that article, they would be more than welcome.

Thanks again for all your help and enjoy the rest of the weekend.

Best regards,

Cmanoli (talk) 20:59, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Trading Point ✅
Hi JacobiJonesJr,

Thank you for reviewing my Trading Point article.

Please note is that I created this article after being requested to do so by reviewer TimTrent. I had originally created only one an article about popular forex firm XM.com, which is owned by Trading Point, but TimTrent has asked me to break the article into two –the parent (Trading Point) and subsidiary (XM.com). The purpose of this is to make it easier for readers to distinguish the various entities. It is also worth mentioning that XM.com started as Trading Point before it was rebranded and that the Trading Point name is today used mostly as a corporate structure umbrella (holding company).

You have said that the article was declined for "same reasons" as above, meaning reliable sources. Since the previous submission, I have completely overhauled the references as per TimTrent's suggestion, so I am confident that what you say about reliable sources is not applicable. There are currently 16 references pointing to different, reputable industry sites across the web, including the Wall Street Journal. Please let me know which ones you find that is not reputable.

Many thanks for your time.

Cmanoli (talk) 10:00, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Copy-edit drive QC check: Death of Kurt Cobain
Hi, I've reviewed your copy-edit of Death of Kurt Cobain here, and there are a few points I want to raise. Your reformatting of references and removal of unnecessary quote templates are well done, but some of your prose changes concern me a little, so I'll list a few of these below for future reference:
 * Discovery of Cobain's body; you've changed "lying inside" to "laying on the ground". Firstly, "lying" is correct; see . Secondly, I checked the provided reference and didn't find anything about his death or the location if his body, so unless there's another source, adding "on the ground" is adding original research to the article.
 * Suicide; you changed "pointed out that there was a family history of suicide" to "stated that a family history of suicide". I'm happy with the change from "pointed out" to "stated", but the rest is ungrammatical.
 * Bloodstream heroin levels; you changed "Two noted the possibility that..." to "Two noted opined that...". Again that's ungrammatical (two verbs), and "opined" is best avoided—"said", "stated", "according to", "described" and "wrote" are preferred, per Words to watch.
 * Rosemary Carroll; you changed "says" to "claims"; see above.

As I said, I'm happy with the formatting and reference changes, and most of the changes you've made to the article. If you need help with anything copy-edit related, please see the Manual of Style, the very useful tutorials here, or you can ask any of the Guild's Coordinators and we'll do out best to help you. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)


 * JacobiJonesJr (talk) 22:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Well done
Just wanted to say well done at Death of Kurt Cobain. I've had the page on watch for awhile, mostly to watch out for the "he was murdered" inserts, you've tightened up the prose and such nicely.


 * Thank you kind anonymous soul :)

JacobiJonesJr (talk) 14:36, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Editing a Title for Disambiguation
Hi, JacobiJonesJr,

I'm trying to edit a page for disambiguation, and I think it would be helpful to edit the original title of one of the articles to include a parenthetical afterwords. In specific, I'm referring to Love in a Maze, which should say "Love in a Maze (Play)" in contrast to Love in a Maze (ballad).

However, I don't seem to have the privilege of editing titles.

Can someone help please?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jchow00 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)


 * clarification. JacobiJonesJr (talk) 22:11, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 22:37, Thursday January 1, 2015 (UTC)

Well done
Just wanted to say well done at Death of Kurt Cobain. I've had the page on watch for awhile, mostly to watch out for the "he was murdered" inserts, you've tightened up the prose and such nicely.


 * Thank you kind anonymous soul :)

JacobiJonesJr (talk) 14:36, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Editing a Title for Disambiguation
Hi, JacobiJonesJr,

I'm trying to edit a page for disambiguation, and I think it would be helpful to edit the original title of one of the articles to include a parenthetical afterwords. In specific, I'm referring to Love in a Maze, which should say "Love in a Maze (Play)" in contrast to Love in a Maze (ballad).

However, I don't seem to have the privilege of editing titles.

Can someone help please?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jchow00 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)


 * clarification. JacobiJonesJr (talk) 22:11, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
 * 22:37, Thursday January 1, 2015 (UTC)

=October 2014=

Tone✅
I'm saying the following not to pick a fight, but to help you out: Do you have any idea how condescending you sound? Because your tone when addressing others borders on the insulting—and in the long run, it will hurt you.

As an example, you wrote the following on my user page:


 * [T]he purpose of Wikipedia is so I can go and find out more about [the subject of the entry] if I needed to. [. . .]It's good that you added those sources, but if you're going to, you need to add them properly. [. . .] Take your time, you are part of a project here-and to call my actions churlish- you need to realize that when you say that to someone who is just trying to improve wp, you may in fact cause them to become rude; people don't appreciate unnecessary comments like that.If you remember you are interacting with other human beings, you may suddenly find that editing, and life, have become easier for you.

Being addressed as if I were five years old—as you do in this 'graph—is flat-out insulting. Doubly so, considering that I've been editing since 2006, while from your user page, I gather you've been on WP since 2013, is it?

So I suggest you take your own advice and "remember you are interacting with other human beings"—other human beings who might have a lot more experience, knowledge and/or brains than you do. Because your patronizing, condescending tone implies that the person you are addressing is an inexperienced ignoramus with mush for brains.

You'll find once you get out in the world that very few people take being spoken to that way passively and without complaint. On the contrary, speaking and/or writing to people with that tone guarantees they'll end up despising you.

I repeat, I'm not here trying to pick a fight—I'm telling this to you to help you out. Please take it in that spirit.

Good luck.

MILH (talk) 04:06, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

✅ JacobiJonesJr (talk) 21:57, 3 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you—your response was extremely decent. I wish I could say I have had the same graciousness as you, when I've behaved like a dolt. Alas, you're a bigger man than me.


 * Cheers,


 * MILH (talk) 00:22, 4 October 2014 (UTC)



'''closed. A smooth compromise'''.JacobiJonesJr (talk) 23:22, 1 January 2015 (UTC) == GOCE September 2014 bling ==

Mount Airy Lodge
The link between Mount Airy Lodge and organized crime, and the Buffalino crime family in particular, is relevant and well-supported and is mentioned elsewhere on wikipedia. Since you are so committed to the site, maybe try to be constructive instead of deleting things that you find not cited correctly (or have an interest in maintaining?). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.246.56 (talk) 00:13, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Nutshell So basically the gist of this is that an IP address inserted the adjective "Mobster" into an otherwise professional article, with no other supporting information. I have no motive for removing the edit besides being possibly libellous, and for having a tone that is not encyclopaedic. And with that I only hope the best for 24.215.246.56 JacobiJonesJr (talk) 22:54, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

18:25:25, 17 October 2014 review of submission by BernieSofronski
Hi, I am in the process of editing this page so that it can be submitted and approved and I wanted to see what you would recommend in terms of citations and if there any specific citations which should be added to the article. Thank you for you for your help. BernieSofronski (talk) 18:25, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

18:53:25, 17 October 2014 review of submission by BernieSofronski
I have added some more citations from Variety, New York Times, and the Emmys website. Please let me know if you have any more suggestions. Thank you!

BernieSofronski (talk) 18:53, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Gonzalo Lira article }
Over at Gonzalo Lira, there's a problem.

A user named Keithbob is removing the references to the stuff Lira has done, replacing those refs with a "citation needed"—then deleting the things Lira has done, arguing that there are no references.

Lira is a published novelist in two languages (plus translations in a dozen more), a film director/producer, an econ blogger who had a huge following for a couple of years, and an economic pundit with dozens of TV appearances.

But Keithbob has so far removed the film directing, the punditry, and has downgraded the blogging to "occasionally contributes to" status.

(BTW, the removal of the punditry is especially weird, as here in Chile, I listen to him three times a week discussing the economy on Radio Agricultura, a reputable FM news-radio station where lately he is a heavy contributor to talk shows.)

Keithbob wants to delete Lira as non-notable. He's doing it by removing the things that the man has actually and verifiably done, and by denigrating/downgrading things he's done until they're practically trivial—and hence make his entry worthy for deletion from WP.

I don't know what to do—I also don't think it's fair. (I've noticed Keithbob does the same to other entries; his criteria seems to be that if he isn't aware of someone/something, then it isn't notable, and hence should be deleted from WP.) But whenever I try to roll back what he's doing, Keithbob is more aggressive in his cuts—and then attacks me.

Help, please.

--MILH (talk) 00:35, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

This warpage has been laid to rest, for reasons unknown to me.JacobiJonesJr (talk) 22:59, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews
Hello. This message is part of a mass mailing to people who appear active in reviewing articles for creation submissions. First of all, thank you for taking part in this important work! I'm sorry this message is a form letter – it really was the only way I could think of to covey the issue economically. Of course, this also means that I have not looked to see whether the matter is applicable to you in particular. The issue is in rather large numbers of copyright violations ("copyvios") making their way through AfC reviews without being detected (even when easy to check, and even when hallmarks of copyvios in the text that should have invited a check, were glaring). A second issue is the correct method of dealing with them when discovered. If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.) If you do find a copyright violation, please do not decline the draft on that basis. Copyright violations need to be dealt with immediately as they may harm those whose content is being used and expose Wikipedia to potential legal liability. If the draft is substantially a copyvio, and there's no non-infringing version to revert to, please mark the page for speedy deletion right away using. If there is an assertion of permission, please replace the draft article's content with. Some of the more obvious indicia of a copyvio are use of the first person ("we/our/us..."), phrases like "this site", or apparent artifacts of content written for somewhere else ("top", "go to top", "next page", "click here", use of smartquotes, etc.); inappropriate tone of voice, such as an overly informal tone or a very slanted marketing voice with weasel words; including intellectual property symbols (™,®); and blocks of text being added all at once in a finished form with no misspellings or other errors. I hope this message finds you well and thanks again you for your efforts in this area. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC). Sent via--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

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Cookie-cutted. JacobiJonesJr (talk) 23:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

=January 2015=

Your template requests
You requested two templates, Template:Ministry of Transportation and Template:Ministry of Energy, but do you think they will be notable. As in, do you think there is a need for these templates in multiple pages.NetworkOP (talk) 11:53, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Review ✅
Hello! I saw you reviewed the page for the TV show, Oobi at Work, as "Redirect" - yet it is not a redirect page. Will the classification be updated soon? Derbundeskanzler (talk) 00:58, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

=February 2015=