User talk:Jacoplane/archive6

Overuse of refconverter
Unreflective use of refconverter is causing many problems, and in many cases actively harming Wikipedia. The tool is nice to have—in fact, it's the impetus for me creating my own "Citation Tool" (still alpha). But it is nice to have to aid editors who are actually involved in editing a specific article, and who have reached consensus about making a given type of change to an existing article. Unfortunately, the semi-bot is largely being used to make "drive by 'improvements'" to articles where editors either have not considered the citation style, or where they have actively decided on something different from what the tool produces. This is extremely disrespectful to other Wikipedia editors, and a gross violation of process.

I have not looked at your specific changes made using the semi-bot, but I strongly recommend that you follow a guideline along the lines of: "Use this tool only after consensus for a change has been reached on the talk page of the article to which it is applied!"

You may also want to take a look at User:Evilphoenix/ref conversion. This is a sketch of an RfC that may be filed to try to resolve this problem (I see no reason you might not opine there, even while it lives in userspace). Ideally, Cyde will back off his insistence on changing all articles, even where against editor consensus. But unfortunately, his attitude has only become more belligerent when I have repeated requests in this regard. I think a positive involvment of well-meaning users of the semi-bot might help matters resolve amicably. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 02:34, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Favour
Hi, it's me, Evan. Could you do me a favour and go to the editor review page and review me? I've been wondering what people have been thinking about me and what I do here. Thanks! Evan Robidoux 21:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Ref converter RFC
You are receiving this message because you are on the Ref converter spamlist.

Hello there, I'd just like to make you aware that Lulu has filed an RfC against me and "other users of Ref converter". Since Lulu has previously contacted you regarding Ref converter I think it is safe to assume that you are one of the people named in the "other users of Ref converter" bit, so you may want to get involved. Just a heads-up, Cyde Weys  18:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Unsourced image
I received this message on my talkpage today: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASoothingR&diff=49906123&oldid=49775073. I'm aware that you were the actual uploader of the image, so I decided to let you know. —♦♦ SʘʘTHING  (Я)  20:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

RfC Woggly / Harassment / Blocking
Hello friend. You were the first to tip me off that my Google News story re: Wiki was mentioned on Wikipedia Signpost. I have trekked many miles of Wiki pages since then. Today I am seeking a RfC from User:Woggly and as a result have been blocked by Tom Harrison. Could you kindly assist me in being freed of her and small band of fellow associates' open and destructive harassment / slander towards me. Thank you. IsraelBeach 22:58, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you are mistaken regarding the block. You are currently not blocked. If that were the case you wouldn't have been able to post on my talk page. Regarding the RfCs, I'll need to find some time later to read all the different pages. Once I have done so I'll post my opinion there. Regards, jaco ♫ plane  23:11, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Jaco. As you can see from other user posts - Tom Harrison did block me for 24 hours for alledged "legal threats." These "threats" never existed as I excplitly stated to all that I agreed with Wiki legal guidelines and that if I ever did take legal action, I would refrain from editing according to Wiki policy. What I can not understand is how an experienced adm such as Tom Harrison can knee-jerk with a block. But this is now history. What is not history are the clear, massive personal attacks that Woggly has thrown at me, in a well coordinated smear campaign that I have discussed in the RfC re: Woggly. I ask for your assistance and support in addressing this issue. You are a good man. I have seen how you take a negative comment which has been thrown at you and respond in a positive manner. This speaks highly of you and your good character. IsraelBeach 07:46, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Template:Expand
In the future please refrain from removing the Expand template until the articles have actually been expanded. I saw you removed it from 2006 Dahab bombings because it was linked to from the Main Page. What links to the page is irrelevant. Thanks, KI 02:43, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Do not lecture me. You obviously are unfamiliar with Wikipedia policies and guidelines. You do not remove the expand template until the article has been expanded. There are no exceptions to this rule. The fact that the article is a stub has nothing to do with having the expand template. The fact that you dont like how the template looks does not matter. The next time you decide to talk down to another user I suggest you review the policies you are attempting to cite. In this case that would include WP:OWN, Vandalism, and Requests for expansion, KI 19:01, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for expansion
"Almost every article in Wikipedia could do with some expansion. This page is for listing those for which there is a specific request.  It is an excellent venue to publicize important articles which are embarrassingly short or insufficient for an encyclopedia of the stature to which Wikipedia aspires."

"Articles to list here:
 * Stubs - Articles that are very short. These should be tagged with stub, or a topic-specific stub tag.
 * Longer articles that still need expansion. Be sure to tag these expansion when you nominate them."

"Articles not to list here:
 * Articles only needing an image - Use Requested images instead.
 * Articles that do not yet exist - Use Requested articles instead.
 * Articles that need fixing - Use Cleanup instead."

"Please help remove listings which have already been expanded. To determine this, you can check the article's history tab.  Compare the length of the article from when the request was posted here to its current length.  If there was a request for expansion of a particular point, see if this was done. Articles that have been expanded should have the expansion tag removed from the talk or article page."

KI 15:50, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Alizée article
Taking lead from your comment, I removed some redundant info from the article. I explained on the talk page detailing the changes I made. Could you please take a look at it now to see if there are more redundancies. -- so U  m  y  a  S  ch  12:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I find your lack of faith... disturbing.
Dear ,
 * Thanks for voting on my RFA! I appreciate your comments and constructive criticism, for every bit helps me become a better Wikipedian. I've started working on the things you brought up, and I hope that next time, things run better; who knows, maybe one day we'll be basking on the shore of Admintopia together. Thanks and cheers, _-M   o   P-_  22:00, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

TOC
Hi, I had been thinking for some time about the problems associated with the TOC. And today, I found the impetus to formally state the problems. I have done it in my talk page, and am interested in finding if some possible solution comes up (which can then be proposed on village pump). Could you please take a look and if possible give some suggestions. -- so U  m  y  a  S  ch  11:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject International development
Welcome to WikiProject International development! --Singkong2005 11:10, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

hello
You reverted my edits including links to the hifi museum.

If you had checked before doing this you would have seen there are 100+ megs and 100's of pages of relevent data at this site. Every link was appropriate and relevent to where it was placed.

http://www.hifi-museum.com/index.html

Please check it out and reinstate my edits and unblock my IP thanks.
 * You were adding the link to the index.html page to lots of articles, doing about 30 articles in one minute. If you had perhaps added links pointing to individual manufacturers on your site to the article on that manufacturer, it might be permissible. However, what you were doing is clearly spamming, so no, I will not reinstate your edits. Also, I didn't block you. jaco ♫ plane  13:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

hello
Dear Jacoplane

You are a little bit confused. If you check the logs of my posting you will see that I posted between 11:59 and 12:31, more than 30 minutes, not "30 articles in one minute" as you state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=67.161.27.94

Yes I did submit to 23 manufacturer's becasue they were all specifically covered in the hifi museum. The content covered is unique and not duplicated elsewhere.

If you check out the definition of spam, the hifi museum does not fit that catagory. It is a non profit site containing relevent information not available elsewhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28electronic%29

The index page is linked to because that is how the site was designed to be accessed. If individual pages were linked to directly the updates and library would not be visible. Also the visitor would not know about the different sections. It is designed to encourage people to explore. And if someone is intersted in say Altec Lansing they also might be intersted in mark levinson or accuphase.

It's pretty clear that the deletions you made were done with out checking out what you were reverting. Your haste is also evidenced by the "30 articles in one minute" statement.

If the site is relevent to be linked by individual sections (as you state) it clearly is not spam.

When I entered my original staement here I tried to post a link so the site could be seen, and I was greeted with a "blocked IP" error, so I was indeed blocked.

I humbly request that you reconsider and reinstate my edits.

I am of course documenting this process.

Thanks
 * You're right about the one minute statement I made, you did add the link to many pages over a thirty minute period, not a one minute period. I wasn't actually confused about that, I merely typed incorrectly. Apologies for that. Your post above does include a link to the site, so I don't know about this blocked IP error. Anyway, as I said before, I didn't block you, or the IP of this website, which isn't on the Spam blacklist. If you were indeed blocked you wouldn't have been able to post on my talk page. Before I reverted I did look at your site to see what I was reverting, and I would make the same judgement today as I did then. Although I could be wrong, it seems to me that you would like to piggyback on Wikipedia to drive traffic to your website, which is not what this project is meant for. You say you are documenting this process, that is fine. You will not get me to agree with you on this, so if you like you can file a Request for comment so that others can give their opinion. Cheers, jaco ♫ plane  07:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

NPA
No, you're misinterpreting the phrase. It does not refer to the past, it refers to the hypothetical future. Hence, instead of the phrase being an attack on the other user's character, it functions as a recommendation. 4.249.6.72 17:56, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Planet Earth
Hi. Thanks for your message and suggestion. I'll certainly give it a go. Cheers.:-) Chris 42 15:32, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I've sent them an e-mail. Will let you know their response. Chris 42 15:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

E3
Would it be possible if you could help out on updating the Current computer and video games events? Since the Square Enix conference is on now and Sony has theirs on in less than two hours it would be grateful if you could update as well with news. -- Thorpe | talk 21:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Heh, yeah sure, I was planning to work on that anyway ;) Must sleep first though! jaco ♫ plane  21:31, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Ain't you gonna miss it? It's on very soon. -- Thorpe | talk 21:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, maybe I'll try and stay awake a little longer then. I guess I can be tired tomorrow :) jaco ♫ plane  21:37, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * By the way, is there a live stream for the Square Enix press conference? jaco ♫ plane  21:39, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

North American sales figures
Hey where are you getting the NA sales figures for Template:Current_computer_and_video_games_events. I'm not sure if they're right because New Super Mario Bros. isn't even out yet. Manmonk 14:11, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I got them from . I presume they counted pre-orders or something. jaco ♫ plane  14:15, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

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Amsterdam
Hi, It boils down to how you define wealthiest. If you mean the number of millionairs or city GDP Amsterdam wasn´t even the wealhiest city in Europe let alone of the world. In China in that age there were cities with millions of inhabitants and with just as many traders and craftsmen as Amsterdam. Anyway there is almost no economic data available to make a meaningfull comparison between Amsterdam and other cities. I wouldn´t want to base a claim like that on an article in the IHT that is about a completely different subject and in which I counted a handfull of errors about Dutch history. I won´t revert your changes yet. Perhaps dsom eother people want to react to it. Cheers, Chardon 15:07, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Delete
Hi, could you please delete this page. Thanks.-- so U  m  y  a  S  ch  20:25, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Could you fix that link? :P jaco ♫ plane  20:47, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry abt that. My flight arrived and I had to log off. I wrote the msg in haste. -- so U  m  y  a  S  ch  21:47, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. jaco ♫ plane  22:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Re:Chris DiBona
Looks good now. enochlau (talk) 04:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

.NET Bot Framework
Hi, thanks for applying to use the .NET Bot Framework.Your request has been approved, and you should soon receive instructions as to accessing the source code of the framework. You have also been added to the Spam list for announcement emails regarding the framework. If you do not wish to receive these announcements, please feel free to remove yourself from this list. Messages sent will involve announcements of new versions, features and other important information. Thanks, and enjoy your use of the framework,Werdnabot (DNBF)/T\C on behalf of Werdna648T/C\@ 14:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Islamophobia
Greetings Jacoplane, I was wondering if you might express your editorial view on this bottom section of talk on this article? Thanks. Netscott 14:00, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

But I reverted very quickly! I don't know why the logs say you reverted. Maybe we reverted at the same time.

Hirsi Ali
You're an admin, do you agree if I process the changes I suggested on the talk page? There haven't yet been any serious objections except for two flames by Intangible. --84.30.97.206 16:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No, getting into an edit war is not a good idea. If you make further reverts you come close to breaking the Three-revert rule. Discuss your argument on the talk page, and if other editors agree with you they can make the edits themselves. jaco ♫ plane  16:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * But if noone presents any arguments against my initial, well argumented, stance, what can I do? --84.30.97.206 16:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Also that other dude started reverting, so he will be hit by the 3RR first --84.30.97.206 16:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

CQuote template in Alizee article
Hi, regarding your addition of the cquote template, it has created a lot of empty space between the end of section text and the end of the letter scan (after which the quote starts). I tried to get the quote into the text, but could not. Is there a way out without resorting to direct HTML coding? -- so U  m  y  a  S  ch  07:25, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Dear Jacoplane,

Hi it's me, Tosca

Half-Life 2 FAC
Hello,

I readded the soundtrack just as you changed your vote, heh. Linuxbeak (drop me a line) 20:23, 21 May 2006 (UTC)