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Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de Carpo
Thanks for contributing Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de Carpo. Would you mind if I worked with you to edit the article and improve it? One thing that is needed (as the notice above says) is source information for Image:Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de Carpo.jpg. Was this scanned from an old book? If so, could you provide the book name and date of the artwork? Also, would you be able to provide sources for the article itself? ie. What history books, websites or documents did you use? This allows what you have written to be verified, and allows interested readers to read more on the background. Thanks. Carcharoth 22:06, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

re:Jacopock 23:56, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

dear Carcharoth, just a quick comment on the introduction you wrote: Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de Carpo was a slave trader, a freemason, but also a poet and journalist. Moreover he was born in Funchal (Madeira, rather than Portugal). i got the picture from the web, but i'm not able to retrace it right now. I saved it a couple of years ago and now it seems to have desappeared. it was from an academic journal, rather than from an old book. I hope it won't be removed. the article is taken from my PhD thesis "the creole elite and the rise of Angolan protonationalism 1870-1920". here are some of the sources I used:

A letter to the right honourable Viscount Palmerston, on the present state of the African slave trade and on the necessity to increase the African squadron by Commander Arthur Perry Eardley-Wilmot (London: James Ridgway, 1853), AHU, Angola, sala 12, diversos, pasta 824.

Ofício do Governador, AHU, Angola, 27/03/1821, cx. 140.

Ofício do Governador Castel Branco, AHU, Angola, 18/11/1824, doc. 145, cx. 146.

Ofício do Governador Castel Branco, AHU, Angola, 19/10/1825, cx. 149-A.

Papéis do Marquês de Sá da Bandeira, Carta de 1844 para aquele Marquês, remetente desconhecido, AHU, Angola, sala 12, pasta 827, 1844.

Pedro Alexandrino da Cunha a Falcão, Reservado, 11/09/1845, ANTT, M.ne, cx. 386.

Books and articles

AZEVEDO, Alvaro Rodrigues de (1873). As saudades da terra: Historia das ilhas do Porto-Sancto, Madeira, Desertas e Selvagens. Funchal: Typographia Funchalense.

CARPO Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de (1843). Dedo de Pygmeu. Lisbon: author’s edition, J. J. Andrade e Silva.

CARPO Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de (1848). Projecto d’uma companhia para o amelhoramento do Comercio, Agricultura e Industria na Província de Angola, que se deve estabelecer na cidade de São Paulo de Assumpção de Loanda... Lisbon: s/e.

CARPO Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de (1846). Resposta à Refutação Antecedente. Lisbon: s/e.

CASTRO Luís António Carvalho de [?] (1846). Biografia ou vida publica de Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de Carpo. Rio de Janeiro: s/e.

MÁRIO ANTÓNIO Fernandes de Oliveira (1997) [1985]. A Formação da Literatura Angolana 1851-1950. Lisbon: Imprensa Nacional Casa da Moeda.

MÁRIO ANTÓNIO Fernandes de Oliveira (1981). Alguns Aspectos da Administração de Angola em Época de Reformas. Lisbon: Edição da Universidade Nova de Lisboa.

MARQUES A.H. de Oliveira (1986). Dicionário de Maçonaria Portuguesa, vol. I. Lisbon: Editorial Delta.

MARQUES João Pedro (2001). Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de Carpo: um percurso negreiro no século 19. In Análise Social, vol. xxxvi, n°160. Lisbon: Instituto de Ciências Sociais da Universidade de Lisboa.

PACHECO Carlos (1992-94). Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de Carpo, uma Vida de Luta contra as Prepotencias do Poder Colonial em Angola. In Revista Internacional de Estudos Africanos, n° 16-17.Lisbon: IICT.

PACHECO Carlos (1993). Leituras e Bibliotecas de Angola na Primeira Metade do Século 19- Subsídios de uma Primeira Tentativa de Abordagem. In Vértice, serie II, n° 55. Lisbon, Ed. Caminho.

Periodicals

O Paquete do Ultramar (Lisbon, 26/10/1839).

O Paquete do Ultramar (Lisbon, 18/01/1840).

Boletim do Governo Geral da Província de Angola (Luanda, 05/11/1853).

thanks

Some more questions
Thanks for the sources given above. That is exactly what was needed. Don't worry too much about the image source, though if you can remember the name of the journal, that would be great. One thing, do you think you could put the above sources on the article's talk page? Talk:Arsénio Pompílio Pompeu de Carpo. That way, someone else will find it easier to find them. They should eventually be put in the article, but I won't have time to do that right now.

One final point. You say he was born in Madeira, but I'm unclear as to what this means. Would you say that he was culturally Portuguese? Do you know what his ethnicity was? I notice the references to his family being emigrants, and the references to creole in your sources. Is it possible to say anything for certain for the introduction? Carcharoth 00:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

re: Jacopock 19:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC) well, would you say that somebody born in Jersey or Guernesey is English? if yes, we could say that he was Portuguese. culturally Portuguese for sure. as long as the ethnicity is concerned, it is hard to say. how would you describe the football player Cristiano Ronaldo (the only famous fellow countryman I can think of at the moment)?

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