User talk:Jaegerlc

Dear Jaegerlc
Hi, that's quite a lot of hard work you are doing here, and a good one too. - I just hope you don't mind my editing. As you can see in my editor's note, I was not sure either where to place that phrase. It only seemed to me that it was kind of an awkward insert into the otherwise chronological report. (46.115.42.95) -- 2.211.92.48 (talk) 17:59, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Not at all. Thank you for assisting. There is an organization problem because the page started out as a quick overview, but now that detail has been filled in, some of the content is in the "wrong" place. Jaegerlc (talk) 20:10, 11 June 2012 (UTC)Jaegerlc

Thank you so much for your kind reply. - This whole thing just makes me sleepless. - And one thing more I want to add: Though it might seem to you across the ocean that we here in europe take pleasure in occupying the moral high-ground, that's not the case at all. If it were not for all the brave people who made the ultimate sacrifice at Omaha Beach to liberate our continent and save the future of mankind ... where would we be now? - Yet somehow we ask ourselves: what has gone wrong with that nation (and dear friends of ours) who were up to the task, when they were most needed? I won't refrain from giving my opinion about the matter as a whole: sentence for murder should be to put them behind bars for life (and I mean it). - But if ever a miscarriage of justice has ocurred: compensate them to the full. - Eternal justice is for God - and no one else. Now (maybe) there are some things left you don't agree about my reasoning. Above all, it was a great pleasure for me, to read your remarks and contributions. God bless & take care. (PS: Please feel free to delete our private conversation when you've read it and you think it's right. - It's your talk page after all.) (46.115.42.95)--46.115.39.21 (talk) 15:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Haha. I am not one of THOSE people. I am actually slightly opposed to the death penalty, mostly because it costs too much and is contrary to the beliefs of many people of good will, such as yourself. We spend way too much time agonizing over the death penalty, time better spent on preventing deaths caused by drunk or inattentive drivers and the like. But I also believe that anti-death penalty advocates, like many passionate people, misrepresent the facts because they believe it serves a greater good. For example, Professor Liebman picks and chooses from various statements to make his case that the witnesses were inconsistent, using snippets of statements that show inconsistency while downplaying or ignoring other aspects of the statement that show consistency. That's fine -- that's what an effective advocate should do. But it should be recognized for what it is -- advocacy. Hey, we can handle the truth. This case was a very close one. To me, that makes it more interesting and more intriguing.

Hear, hear. - Now that's what I would call some sense of reason in all that heated debate. - It may seem strange to you there: Here (from an outward perspective) we all are focused on the high pitch and fervour. And the adversarial principle of anglo-saxon law (as compared to roman law) makes it all the more quite incomprehensible. - Now you might ask, what is the point here? - To put it short, that serves all these misconceptions about America around the world. I've often heard that you consider yourself a "young nation". Now here are some points to mention. When in good old europe democracy was something "nice to have" and a pie in the sky, you put it into practice. (In the mean time our elite was easy prey for some selfstyled petty-monarchs.) Then there where these quarrels between Willy II and his cousins and some austrian Charly Chaplin-look-alike popped up next... All of them leaving an unspeakable trail of bloodspill (not to mention that guy whith the moustache somewhere further east). If it where up to me to argue the case for the abolishment of the death penalty in the US, here's what to do: offer something practical as an alternative to protect people like that poor Ms. Lopez, doing a hard days work to earn a living and doing good service for friends and neighbourhood. - But you already said it all: put this vast amount of money that is spent for capital punishment into good police work plain and simple. (On the one hand that would be the daddy-type cop who says "No, no!" and on the other hand the cutting edge of scientific criminal investigation.) As I see it, the americans have quite a pragmatical sense to opt for what's decent, serves all and is fair. Looking some years ahead, I am quite sure that the american people will sort that out. - And looking back even a bit further: abolishing slavery, keeping the nation as a whole, and going every extra mile to do the work of reconciliation that was left behind is quite a thing. Thank you for your kind reply. God bless & take care! (46.115.42.95) [Sorry, WP-bot, forgot to sign it. ;-)]-- 46.115.26.80 (talk) 16:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)