User talk:Jaellee/Archives/2008

Wikilinked years
Hi there JAELLEE, this is VASCO from Portugal:

One thing i would like to ask, maybe you can shed some light on me: Since you have reverted at least twice (one by me, not sure if the other was mine too) the years i had de-wikilinked in LUCA TONI's article (and so i suppose in other articles too): can you tell me the purpose in wikilinking dates (unless they are really historically significant?). Do you hope that if one clicks, in one date, the year or the day or month, it will appear: "On this magnificent day of 2004 (for example) Luca Toni scored two goals against Lithuania".

If it is for aesthetical purposes (highlighting in a different colour) i don't see the point either (why don't they highlight something different, it's ALWAYS THE YEARS?).

Anyway, i give up (at least on TONI's article); don't want to put you through all that work, since i know you will reinstate the format everytime someone takes it.

Help me with your views, from Portugal have a nice weekend, VASCO AMARAL - --217.129.67.28 (talk) 16:13, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:DATE, especially WP:DATE. Linking the dates will cause the wiki software to autoformat them according to the preferences of the user. --Jaellee (talk) 16:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/List of Honorverse characters
You may want to comment at that article's deletion discussion.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that. (Christian Lell)
I must have made a mistake. I was a bit dizzy at that time... BrianGo28 (talk) 23:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

&ndash
I can't remember where, but there is a policy that asks people to use &ndash instead of a - between dates, so  instead of. Just to let you know... J.d ela noy gabs adds 17:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It was already an &amp;ndash;. Can't you see that? It is the first Symbol after the "Insert:" in the box below the Edit window. --Jaellee (talk) 17:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thomas STRUNZ
Hi there JAELLEE, VASCO from PORTUGAL,

In these GERMAN FOOTBALLER article, no problem with accessdate whatsoever your edit was good, in my opinion (which is of course questionable) it makes REF. display too lenghty, and i thought publishing date would be enough, but you see it differently, no problem there. I also did a good job, when i arrived there, REF. was not displayed, so i mended that, and my question to you is: What was the problem with my edit to prompt your "cosmetic changes"?

TEAM WORK ALWAYS, from PORTUGAL, a nice week(end),

VASCO AMARAL - --217.129.67.28 (talk) 21:39, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Assists of Goalkeepers in Bundesliga
You are right. Rensing did get an assist aswell. I would like to change the phrase from "he was one of two goalkeeper's to get an assist" to " he is one of three", but then the reference would be useless as it it false. We could leave the phrase as unsourced too. What are your thoughts? Hubschrauber729 (talk) 03:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry for being late. Although I think it is better to to write that "he is one of three" I am not sure whether there is another goalkeeper who got an assist in this season (I haven't checked that yet). And I think that leaving it unsourced is also a good idea. --Jaellee (talk) 10:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Flag icons
It is incorrect to put the flag icon to the left of the club name or competition? Please tell me because I have seen lots of player articles that apply the use of the flag icon for visual identification (i.e. Ruud van Nistelrooy, Jan Koller, Semih Senturk) and they look quite good. I have tried to apply a similar layout in German players' articles but you keep on erasing the flag icon. Is there any policy I don't know of? Mannschaftskapitän (talk) 17:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't think that it is incorrect in itself, but according to FLAG, especially FLAG I think they should not be used there.
 * There are also sometimes discussions on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football page, for example here and  here, which left me with the impression that the flag icons are nice to look at, but they do not really add substantial value to an article and create problems in the long run. --Jaellee (talk) 21:41, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Michael Ballack
What are your thought's on the Height dispute? Hubschrauber729 (talk) 19:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

"DefaultSort" to "Lifetime" changes
Hi there, i noticed this edit. What does this template do outside of automatically categorising birth/death dates? Indeed, what does DefaultSort actually do? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 16:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, for the template "Lifetime" have a look at this, there it is explained what it does (better than i could do it).


 * DEFAULTSORT allows you to set a default sort key.
 * Usually articles are listed in the categories alphabetically by the name of the article, but this is not always desired. Fernando Meira for example would be sorted in "F" and not in "M" without DEFAULTSORT. Also (as far as I know) the wiki software has trouble sorting words containing special characters (for example ä oder é) and so they should be changed in the default sort key (to a and e in this case). --Jaellee (talk) 22:26,

20 July 2008 (UTC)

This story is true about barnetta,,, there are stories and reports from websites on this it isnt personal speculation there are pictures of him and stop takin them off please.


 * Even it it was true it does not belong into wikipedia. Also, please sign your edits. --Jaellee (talk) 21:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Michael Ballack
The – is the preferred model for footballer's profile on wikipedia as is outlined in the manual. Please do not alter this to "-" in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eatingme (talk • contribs) 17:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Read what I wrote on your talk page.


 * 2) Go and and have a look at: Template:Infobox_Football_biography. The Source code also uses the symbol.--Jaellee (talk) 17:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I read what you placed on his page and it's not entirely acurate. &ndash is the correct html use for a long dash, if you don't use it, it may not be rendered correctly in all browsers, which is why it is preferable. It does not clutter up the source, it is the source. Pbradbury (talk) 22:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you have some further information on this? I know that &amp;ndash; is the correct html source but the Wikipeda software does more than just displaying html. For example umlaut ä doesn't have to be written as &amp;auml; (at least I never saw somebody complaining about that). If you have a look at Dash there is also the character "–" used in the source and I would expect that it wouldn't be used there if it was for some reason not recommended. --Jaellee (talk) 22:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

You removed a change i made citing irrelevance. Being a mathematician doesnt mean that you can decide what is of relevance and what is not ;-) The information you removed is informative to the player. Thanks Inspiredminds (talk) 10:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not just collection of stuff. I think that the fact that Ballack is blogging is not relevant enough to be in his article. --Jaellee (talk) 11:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you are right, it is an encyclopedia and the information that was added is not just stuff. There are almost a million other items on Michael Ballack's page that can be classified as "stuff", and you decided to remove a legitimate piece of information. Inspiredminds (talk) 11:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Dates
I was not aware of that. I was under the impression that the linking involved in the dates aided in their appearance (they do -- I view "9 March" as incorrect, but putting brackets around it causes it to be formatted "correctly" as "March 9").

As annoying as the links are (and they are annoying), it is more annoying, at least to me, to constantly view date formats that are the opposite of how I grew up writing them. Neither is wrong, per se, so the linking allows for everyone to view the links as they wish to view them (set in their preferences). I would prefer to see a tag that allows for that without the linking for better viewing, but so far I don't know of one.

Wouldn't it be worse to have stupid edit wars over "March 9" vs "9 March" than to have March 9?

Thanks for pointing that out, 23:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Those are just my thoughts on it, by the way, I'm reading through some of the discussions about it, so you don't need to respond if you don't care to. Isaiah (talk) 23:22, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Gal Alberman
I thought it looked ugly but I changed it back when you showed me thoose info boxes. --Fipplet (talk) 21:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Football player articles
I usually took at place where the player is born. Why should British Format used when the player comes from Spain or Brazil?. Whatsoever i have no problem if person is born in England or Australia then i use British format.--SkyWalker (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * On a related note: can I ask what was your thinking behind this edit of Didier Drogba? I specifically wrote the dates that way as a method of providing concise, unambiguous dating in the references. This is the way I organise the large majority of my edits. Why did you think it was better written in the full international format? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 02:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you would be interested in the discussion about autoformatting at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) then? There are two separate mini-questionnaires discussing this issue. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 07:22, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Your View on Tomas Rosicky
How come you defaulted Tomas Rosicky's 2008 subsection that I expanded and called it speculation?, Its been confirmed by Arsenal and by Sky Sports news he won't return until 2009 I am re-adding what I put earlier, not happy with my genuine update/edit being reverted after the news has been confirmed, If you dont believe me check here http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/rosicky-to-return-in-march-at-the-earliest- and here http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4611223,00.html. Barretto24 (talk) 18:27, 8 December 2008 (UTC)