User talk:Jaembree

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Webclient101 (talk) 03:25, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hey there, brother. Welcome to the Wikipdias =) Kenirwin/ (talk) 13:20, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks man. I confess, I'm still a bit lost on here. I'll almost certainly have questions for you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.108.123.76 (talk) 13:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help today Ken. I will do my best to use these powers for good.

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Webclient101 (talk) 03:41, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

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Wittenberg University Speleological Society
Hey I see you posted a new link to WUSS. That's awesome. I have much experience with the creation of the Oregon High Desert Grotto page and would like to help you make WUSS stick around. If you can, add as many non-local references as you can that specifically mention WUSS's accolades. Anything that pertains to outside the local region of WUSS will help the WUSS wikipage survive. If it has none of these kinds of citations, it will likely be deleted by consensus. Primary sources are frowned upon on Wikipedia (e.g. like referencing WUSS's own website). Primary sources will not help WUSS's wikipage survive, but they can be used for subtle touches here and there. Hope this helps! Leitmotiv (talk) 04:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up. We have a mountain of things we can reference, so I better get on adding some more it seems. We have no shortage of newspaper articles and scientific journals, but I'm not so sure I really understand the terminology here yet. What is "outside the local region of WUSS" exactly? Are you just referring to anything that isn't ours or is it more specific? Please forgive my ignorance. -J


 * Yep, more work is required if and when the WUSS article comes up for review (probably when). Terminology on what a "region" is, is vague and can change from one person to the next. But for WUSS, I would argue that its region consists of the county it resides in, and perhaps all adjacent counties too. So what you want to include are references that show WUSS's influence outside of that area. If you only show references that show WUSS only impacts its local area, then for Wikipedia's purposes, the article on WUSS is not noteworthy enough and will be eligible for deletion. You want to show that WUSS has influence outside of its region by including citations for things accomplished in other areas. Be sure not to use references that come from the NSS or WUSS directly, because those are primary sources and are not valid. In other words, you cannot use your own arguments to prove themselves true. You will need outside or "secondary" sources. Since WUSS is affiliated with the NSS, any citation from an NSS or Grotto source will be considered primary. Instead, look for government, newspaper, scientific journal, etc. citations that reference WUSS or its members directly (preferably the former). On a side note, primary sources can be used to flesh out some of the finer details, but know that in the long run, those primary sources won't make WUSS survive.


 * P.S. insert colons with each response to indent. Also, four tildes (no spaces in between) are always required at the end of your response so you can sign your comment. Leitmotiv (talk) 19:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)