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David Pritchard article
Good job on David Pritchard (cricketer). Look forward to reading more of your articles. Cheers Roisterer (talk) 04:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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Nomination of Arthur Goldman (cricketer) for deletion
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Australian cricketers
Hi. Thanks again for your excellent work on expanding articles on Australian cricketers. If you have time and/or are interested, please could you take a look at the following pages. They have all been nominated for deletion, but was wondering if you had any extra info about any of them. Note this is not canvasing for the deletion discussions, but asking someone who has done excellent work in expanding these type of stubs.


 * George Cooper (cricketer)
 * Lance Druery
 * Lester Warden
 * Peter Ryan (cricketer)

Thank you.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 10:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Seconded. Well done, Jagar. No Great Shaker (talk) 12:05, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Always happy to fill out articles!, Unfortunately I only really use trove, and their archive of newspapers only goes up to 1953 for Queensland so is tricky to find anything on players after that period (although luckily Warden was a notable schoolboy cricketer so was some stuff on him). JagarTharnofTamriel (talk) 14:35, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

MOS
Hi there. I've noticed on several occasions, when expanding biographies, you refer to the subject by their given name. This practice contravenes the Manual of Style, which specifies that the surname should be used (see MOS:SURNAME for details). Regards. wjematherplease leave a message... 18:43, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for letting me know, will follow style in future! JagarTharnofTamriel (talk) 23:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Lance Druery for deletion
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Stats tables on cricketer articles
Hi. I've noticed a couple of these and I think they are on the edge creating a problem - although I appreciate the work that goes into them.

There is a strong argument that they cause WP:NOTSTATS problems. We did make a decision at the cricket project a while back that we would avoid tables without context as well. You do see tables in articles at times, but they tend to try to summarise career bests and so on rather than add season by season detail. Sometimes these have context (Joe Denly for example), sometimes they don't. I'm just not sure that what you're doing is adding much actual value to what should be largely prose articles if it doesn't have some attempt to put it in context. I get what the stats do and what they can tell us, but I think we need to be careful about what we do in this regard.

The amount of detail is quite extensive and the table really quite wide - can you check what it looks like on a phone, for example. This is part of my problem. If they were reduced in detail and complexity (matches, runs, averages and wickets, maybe) then I would see less of a problem. Fwiw I also really dislike the colour heading row you've added - I'm a bit of an accessibility nerd and can see no advantage to using colour in that way.

I know the football project does something similar on lots of articles btw. Personally I think their tables are simpler - although still a bit too detailed for my taste - and I have concerns about the lack of context. But their stats are also simpler (games and goals iirc).

Do you think you could have a bit of a think about this and maybe try and a) come up with a slightly simpler format and b) add at least a paragraph of context about each one somehow? I'm not quite sure what the longer term solution is - it's an idea that we've talked about in the past I think but didn't come to any suitable conclusion. Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes makes sense, I am not sure either and it would be good to try and get some consensus before adding any more. My thinking is that the prose in the articles for Pritchard and Walsh provide the context as they essentially summarize their First-class careers from newspaper articles, but I felt that it is impossible to get a firm grip on their overall statistical output from stats buried in between quotes on technique and club cricket and things. In this sense I would only add tables to articles which have this career summary already (not to all articles, especially stubs as I feel this would fuel deletion argument considerably!). Will simplify down. Hope this 'tags' you: Blue Square Thing JagarTharnofTamriel (talk) 08:18, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Will remove colours for sure (chose header based on State team colours but on reflection agree this makes little sense, especially as players sometimes represented multiple states). JagarTharnofTamriel (talk) 08:20, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Also please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cricket#Thoughts_on_statbox, hopefully can canvas more thoughts there JagarTharnofTamriel (talk) 08:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Just a little comment
Firstly, I will say thank you for expanding some of these Australian first-class articles that might not get much love in the cricket community with most of the focus being on the recent times. It's always good to try and expand some of the older articles (something that I am trying to do with these Australian tours).

Anyway I just want to put a small comment about the recent post here and that is remember to do the  on articles you want to mention instead of the full link just to be a lot easier. Other than that, good job. HawkAussie (talk) 04:40, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of John de la Roche Bragge


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Alan Reid
I downloaded your photo from File:Alan_Reid.png, displayed on the page Alan Reid (cricketer). adjusted the curves with Paint.net and uploaded back as a replacement file. I just used Adjustments => Curves... and used an "S" shaped curve saturated (maxed) for the first and last 25% or so. I used only two adjustment points. It seems to show more detail. You can see both versions on the commons page. If you don't like mine, feel free to let me know and I'll remove it or reload yours.

If you want to try Paint.net, you can find the download link on the Wiki page. Paint.net It's freeware and works on Windows only. You can get it from Microsoft for a few £s, and it will auto-update which I find convenient. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 20:36, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks heaps, it looks great. I've been using paint.net to mess around with the contrast settings to make newspaper clipping scans look a bit better but haven't used the more advanced features. Thanks for the tip! JagarTharnofTamriel (talk) 11:19, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
 * If you have the unprocessed original, you should be able to make it look better! Thanks for uploading those photos. Looks like a lot of work! Cheers Adakiko (talk) 11:21, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You probably could use AI to make a real-looking color 3D image of them from these old halftones! Adakiko (talk) 11:27, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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