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Why do you add "/murder" after the word "suicide"? Please do not restore it before we discuss this, in accordance with WP:BRD. Debresser (talk) 16:43, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Josephus writes that the men drew lots and killed the rest, finally killing each other to the last man. When we kill innocent women and children that is called murder in any culture regardless of their religious beliefs.

If it were to happen today no-one would call a man killing his family suicide. Why would you not call it murder? (from email)
 * You could say "committed suicide/killed each other. "Murder" sounds like a moral judgment. Let's keep the language neutral. Debresser (talk) 17:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)