User talk:Jake bauming

'''it took me so long to figure out how to navigate this blasted site, i initially gave up. i wanted to ask a question when that jake bauming page was up for consideration to be deleted but couldn't get into whatever area it was that you & that other felisse person had written in, although maybe it was in the section i'm in, now. the reason i find it difficult to know how to do things, is when i'm looking for instructions on something, wikipedia says "you need to do XXXX" but it never says anything about how to accomplish XXXX. AAAGH!!! anyhow, to answer your questions in order:'''

I don't think there's me and ANOTHER felisse person, I think there's just one Felisse person and she is me. Felisse 14:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

How is it that having an article about you and your company on Wikipedia compromises your credibility? Certainly there are a lot of credible people who have articles about them - and also anyone taking stock would know that Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, so why would they think you had anything to do with the article? Do you find that all the people in the animator category are not credible?

'''no, it's not that i find all animators are not credible, and certainly lots of stuff is legit, but to your earlier point, i have a hard time getting into the wikipedia thing BECAUSE anybody can write anything and i think that unless you're andré 3000, you probably won't have such an article and if you DO and you're joe blow like me, then it seems mighty fishy. it questions my credibility because i am so far under the radar, that very few people know who i am. maybe in the scene, people know of me, but that's a miiighty small scene.'''

Ok, so who knew so much about you to write the original article? Were the facts in it all wrong? Or were you more worried that someone would edit it later and insert wrong stuff? Felisse 14:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

If you check, you'll see that I voted to remove the article. But I hope you realize, if you really wanted it removed, you went about it completely the wrong way - stating that you were not notable enough to have an article about you instead of how you did it in the proposed deletion, and it maybe would've gone right through... so I wondered if your specific way of going about it was actually intended to be some kind of reverse psychology? But that doesn't seem likely somehow.

'''like i said above, as for going about my request to have the page axed, after i finally -FINALLY- found the page on getting an article removed, it said you could ask for a speedy deletion, or a regular deletion or........some other kind of deletion. if i entered the wrong request, or if my reasons for the request were poorly worded, i apologize, but... ugh.. and this is another one of my beefs- okay, wikipedia, yeah, yeah, formal tone & all that jazz, but look, I DON'T WORK for wikipedia! this is like me going into mcdonald's to complain and no one listening to me because i'm not wearing a mcdonald's uniform. all i care about is that the article gets removed. i'm not an editor. i don't know what the right way is to get an article removed, but when i finally find a page that says "how to get your page removed from the interzone", i say "yes, PLEASE", click on it and say "take down this page, effective forthwith, please & thank you!" as for the reverse psychology, it would only work if i was famous enough that everyone online was looking at my page in the first place to see my asking to have it taken down. plus Animation Gearhead Quarterly™ never cited the article, so it wouldn't have worked.

'''

So, your real reason was that you weren't famous enough to warrant the article. Which apparently others agreed about because lookie, your article is gone :) I think it sounds like you haven't got the patience - and I still don't really understand your sense of urgency about getting the article removed.  With more patience, taking time to look for a while and find the instructions, and more importantly, looking at the three main wikipedia guidelines - verifiability, notability, and no original research - you would have seen that it appeared that the article about you violated ALL THREE :)  I think it was only your phrasing that kept it around as long as it did. It's like you went into a McDonalds and your complaint was that the food was too fried and fatty, and it was going to ruin your complection, and why did they always burn everything, and the portions were too small! All when your real problem was that you ordered a salad and they gave you chicken nuggets instead. Felisse 14:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Anyway - my curiosity is still getting to me, what IS it that you find compromising about the article's existence (as opposed to its contents) Felisse 04:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

'''above! Above! ABOVE, I SAY!!'''

'''ALSO, on the page for industrial strength graphics, which i'd just as soon see gone as well, THE VERY FIRST LINE of that thing starts off with "...is said to have been established because...". what's that?? that's like a page from the Encyclopedia Of Maybes. it THEN goes on to say "A possibly apocryphal account states that...". if those two things don't bring into question the validity of an article, then i don't know what does.""

Sure, I can see how that would question the validity of the article. What I still don't see is how it questions the validity of your existence which is what you seemed concerned about. How does it compromise your credibility for some not very credible, and acknowledged as not very credible, information about you to be on the internet? Felisse 14:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

'''anyhow, i do thank you for voting that first page into oblivion. and now to request that the industrial strength page gets cut. all i have to do is say the article is total bullshit- who's to say it isn't? it's my company, after all!'''

Here you go, once again with the phrasing that is going to get you into trouble. So, IS the article mistaken in factuality? Or are you just admitting that you're going to lie and say it is, when it isn't? And if the latter, why do you think that will be effective? If I came into your office and asked you for a job, and I said "well I'll say I'm a hard worker, and how will anyone know the difference? So you should hire me right?" would you hire me? Felisse 14:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)