User talk:Jakec/Archive 16

Messages from May 19, 2015 to June 25, 2015

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Hello Jakob, I am new to this whole Wikipedia thing, and you recently blocked my account Virtual Stacks. I changed the credentials of the account, am I still blocked? In addition, I tried to make a page for my company and I tried to be unbiased as possible, can I please get an example on how I can make a page without sounding like advertising or marketing? This is an assignment given by my employer and I have products to add also, please help.

Nelle Soyibo (talk) 20:03, 19 May 2015 (UTC)Nelle Soyibo
 * Welcome to Wikipedia. Your current account isn't blocked (otherwise you wouldn't have been able to post here). Your previous account wasn't blocked because your draft article was biased per se, but because accounts with names that match a company name tend to be blocked as a rule. The article you wrote was in fact not particularly biased. As for advice on writing an unbiased article, it's a bit complicated, but I'd suggest carefully reading what you write and seeing whether it looks more like what you'd see in an encyclopedia or in a PR piece. It's also a very good idea to have several independent (not affiliated with Virtual Stacks) sources that discuss the company. Such sources should be the basis of most of the content in the article. Referencing is kind of complicated, but one admin has an excellent guide that explains it in simple terms. I'd also suggest that you use the articles for creation process so that an experienced editor can check over your work before it goes "live". One last thing: the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use require that paid editors disclose their conflict of interest on their user pages; this explains the best way to do that. I know this is a lot to remember, but you can post on my talk page if you have any further questions. Good luck. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  21:55, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Stafford Meadow Brook
Harrias talk 14:02, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Quixotic plea
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Wikipediholism test. Thanks. —  06:30, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Van Brunt Creek
Harrias talk 07:32, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Langan Creek
Harrias talk 07:32, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Userbox
I have a userbox on my userpage you may find interesting.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 22:47, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I'll add it to my own userpage next time I update it. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  11:52, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Lindy Creek
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:16, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Roaring Brook (Lackawanna River)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:03, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Placing the Black Creek (Susquehanna River) article on hold
What I'd like to do is the pass the article (I trust that the info is accurate), but I still want to check the sources. I may place the article on hold. I had a lot more come up than I expected and I don't know when I'll be able to finish the article review. I would like to say within 10 days or so, but I'm not sure. I'm really sorry...Please respond as soon as you can...LeftAire (talk) 17:12, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * That is fine. It may take a few days to get the book, so it can't hurt to order it soon so that we can resume the review whenever you're ready. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  17:19, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Keyser Creek
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:46, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

The 200 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
Thanks! It's a long way to get to a river, but it'll be worth it. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  11:52, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Montour County
Thanks for the work! I'm going to a part-day event at Clarion University of PA next week, so I may be able to get the remaining municipalities for Clarion County then. I just wish we were done with Cameron County — some weeks ago I got a photo in Shippen Township, and I thought I was getting one in Lumber Township too, but only after returning home did I realise that File:CCC memorial near Emporium.jpg was less than half a mile north of the township line...grr. Nyttend (talk) 00:59, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds great. I'll try to tackle a few townships in central Luzerne County next time. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  11:52, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of White Oak Run (Lackawanna River)
Hello! Your submission of White Oak Run (Lackawanna River) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! AshLin (talk) 07:30, 26 May 2015 (UTC) AshLin (talk) 07:30, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Please see new note on DYK nomination template. Yoninah (talk) 21:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Tributaries of the Delaware river
Can Ithan Creek and Cobbs Creek really be considered tributaries of the delaware river? They are tributaries of Darby Creek, which is itself a tributary of the Delaware. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 16:38, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes. "Tributaries" includes subtributaries, subsubtributaries, etc. See Category:Tributaries of the Susquehanna River for instance. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  16:43, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Magna Carta (An Embroidery)
Harrias talk 19:16, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Pennsylvania State Game Lands Number 115
Thanks for helping the project Victuallers (talk) 19:47, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Lake Run
Thanks for your help with this great project Victuallers (talk) 08:03, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for The Icelandic New Business Venture Fund
Your help is appreciated Victuallers (talk) 09:02, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Sterry Creek
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:16, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Indian Cave Creek
Hello! Your submission of Indian Cave Creek at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Z1720 (talk) 03:13, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Askam Borehole
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:02, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK issues
I'm not sure if you've noticed but a few threads have recently appeared on WT:DYK about your submissions. I have no opinion but could you address them at some point so that others don't use your newer nominations to throw more fuel on the fire? Fuebaey (talk) 18:55, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wildcat Creek (Lackawanna River)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:32, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for West Branch Tinklepaugh Creek
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Grassy Island Creek
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:51, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Phineas Waller
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:52, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Indian Cave Creek
The DYK project (nominate) 19:32, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Lees Creek (Lackawanna River)
Hello! Your submission of Lees Creek (Lackawanna River) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible.

Powderly Creek
Hello! Your submission of Powderly Creek at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! North America1000 04:53, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Eddy Creek (Lackawanna River)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:18, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk:River Tone/GA1
Thanks for your comments at Talk:River Tone/GA1. I've had a go at addressing most of them (still working on water quality) and would appreciate your further thoughts.&mdash; Rod talk 20:24, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work. I'll try to respond there either this evening or tomorrow. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  20:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * As you suggested I've added a bit more on the biology/ecology a few days ago, but I was wondering what else you thought was needed particularly from the National Rivers Authority document?&mdash; Rod talk 15:53, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * With some help from other editors I've now added a hydrology and water quality section as you suggested. Could you take another look and see if this is the sort of thing you wanted? By the way I will be away with no internet access from 22 - 29 June so will not be able to respond to any further comments during that period.&mdash; Rod talk 07:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Hull Creek (Lackawanna River)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your comments here. I've made changes based on your thoughts. Best. --Epeefleche (talk) 20:43, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Might you perhaps take a second look when you have a spare moment, now that I've sought to address your comments? Thanks. --Epeefleche (talk) 06:01, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Responded. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  12:21, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Tx. --Epeefleche (talk) 22:58, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Ithan Creek
Hello. Can you check to see if Ithan Creek is in Keystone Canoeing. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 14:36, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but no. Ithan Creek isn't in there as far as I can tell. I might be able to dig up some other sources, though, if you're interested. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  12:21, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * That makes sense, since its usually like a foot deep. Yes, dig up other sources if you can. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 14:36, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Bump. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs ) ~ 16:28, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I only see a lot of little sources. You'll find them too if you google "Ithan Creek" pa (check Google Books as well). --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  22:57, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Lyman H. Howe
Hello. I was working on the entry for Lyman Howe. He was generally known as Lyman H. Howe. So it seems to me that this is how he should be listed. I changed it--you changed it back and I wondered why. If you look at all the Google entries under his name you will see it that way. For Edwin S. Porter--someone I have also written about the main entry title is Edwin S. Porter and then the full name is given below. So this would seem to be consistent with that. Is there someone who adjudicates these things? (Also when you moved it back a lot of additions I was making got lost.)Chamuss (talk) 20:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello Jakec. I agree with here. Most of the reliable sources refer to him as Lyman H. Howe, and that's how he referred to himself professionally. Accordingly, I believe that should be the article title per WP:COMMON NAME. Of course, his full name should be given in the first sentence. Cullen328   Let's discuss it  21:12, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I also agree with Chamuss. Although I'm not knowledgeable with the subject, all the sources on there refer to him as Lyman H. Howe, this seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:22, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * See also WP:Middle names. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright. Personally I think it's a bit strange that we wouldn't use the most specific/descriptive name, but oh well. Chamuss: I apologize if I accidentially reverted any of your work; all I was trying to do was reverse the move and fix the date formats. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  12:21, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am fairly new to this game and so sometimes I do provide the wrong format but if I am given the time, I can usually figure it out and it will end up being ok.  The problem was correcting my work even as I was inputting it.  At a certain point, it was a little hallucinatory because I did not realize I had a helper.  Anyway, as I understand it, the entry is supposed to use the commonly used name.  If you check other wikipedia entries middle names frequently do not appear as the main title for the entry but are given in the text that follows.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chamuss (talk • contribs) 15:41, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

===Thanks for your note. There must be a way to talk more directly (how). You could help. I still don't know how to cite the same book using the # plus a,b,c. Page numbers may vary but it seems a little redundant. Can you help?
 * To create a duplicatable reference, write in the form of . How can then use to refer to that reference somewhere else. See this for a more detailed guide if you want. Thanks again for the help! --Jakob (talk)   aka Jakec  20:27, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Per Holknekt
Please take a look at the article Per Holknekt that I have created. And also Caroline Grane. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:34, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I'm not really familiar with these kinds of articles. I also can't read Swedish, so I don't think I could be of much help. Was there something specific you wanted. --Jakob (talk)  aka Jakec  01:03, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of West Branch Lackawanna River
Hello! Your submission of West Branch Lackawanna River at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Wasted Time R (talk) 12:37, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Fall Brook (Lackawanna River)
Hello! Your submission of Fall Brook (Lackawanna River) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:53, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of West Branch Fishing Creek
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article West Branch Fishing Creek you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Rystheguy -- Rystheguy (talk) 09:41, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of West Branch Fishing Creek
The article West Branch Fishing Creek you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:West Branch Fishing Creek for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Rystheguy -- Rystheguy (talk) 14:21, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for White Oak Run (Lackawanna River)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:20, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of West Branch Fishing Creek
The article West Branch Fishing Creek you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:West Branch Fishing Creek for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Rystheguy -- Rystheguy (talk) 13:41, 25 June 2015 (UTC)