User talk:Jameboy/Archive 1

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Re: Sheffield United Plate
You make good points. I originally heard about Sheffield United getting a plate for finnishing runners-up on the television show Soccer AM, where they were interviewing someone from Sheffield United (I forget who, though it was probably Neil Warnock). As the interview went on, it was mentioned that the club would be receiving a plate for finishing second. They then said that this was the first time that this had happened.

Reasons for the plate
I suppose that it is nice for their achievement to be recognised. Even the club which wins the playoffs (Watford F.C.) receives a trophy, and previously, the runners-up would receive nothing, even though they finished in a higher place than the team which wins the play-offs. The whole thing is an initiative of Coca-Cola football. When the company started their sponsorship of the football league, names of competitions were changed (division one changed to the championship, for example). This was done, as they aimed to improve the appearance of football at that level. Awarding a plate to the runners-up is the continution of this process. I did think that the runners-up of leagues One and Two would also receive something similar, but this has not come to my attention.

Conclusion
Anyway, I had certainly not seen it happen before, myself. When I added it to the article, there was a separate section for "Blades' firsts", so it seemed fitting that I should add this point to it. I think that it is the first time where a plate has been awarded, with the intention of awarding it to future runners-up, as well. I may have been a bit 'long-winded', but it is complicated to explian. Sorry for not being able to provide any 'solid' evidence, but I couldn't find any. 13756 19:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Kenny Jackett
Well done on re-organising the Kenny Jackett page, which I tried to do recently but then forgot about! Looks much better already. - Stevecov 19:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Isobel Lang
Not really. Have a look at WP:C in general and WP:C in particular. You can paraphrase what is on the BBC site if you like. But not copy-and-paste-and-edit. Sorry. Frelke 10:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Debbie Greenwood
In case you hadn't noticed, Debbie Greenwood has been proposed for deletion. NickelShoe (Talk) 08:19, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Pascal Zuberbuhler
Its been in several swiss newspapers, as well as being announced by xamax http://www.xamax.ch/ as you can see it is the top story on their official site. There are also some pictures (i dont remember where i saw them tho) of him signing with the club flag. KingDoorknob 16:16, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Deliberate misspelling
Hi, I was wondering if you could explain your reasoning behind removing the Slade sentence in the Deliberate misspelling article? It seemed perfectly relevant to me. Thanks. --Jameboy 23:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Because naming a bunch of songs by an artist is not as notable as the band's name being a misspelling. I could add the Alabama 3 song "U dont danse 2 tekno anymore" but it's just one song on one album. And it seems like one of those references to things only a few people are aware of but you really like (eg one time when I was new to wikipedia I added a pic to the Walk of Fame page with the Sublime (at the time just about the only thing I listened to) star on the walk. ) I can't explain why people (myself at one time included) do this, but It's one of those identity things... -Indolences 03:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * OK sounds good to me :) -Indolences 14:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

A.F.C.
If you look on the website of the FA (who are the ultimate decider on such matters), they do list AFC clubs at the top alphabetically (see for AFC Bournemouth and  for AFC Wimbledon). Similarly, FC United would be under F rather than U. With regards to Danish teams, I guess it depends how they do it over there. I hope this goes some way to settling the matter! Number 57 15:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: misspelling in Michael Appleton
Apologies for that one, I've added an exception to my list so that I won't try to fix 'Safty' again. Rjwilmsi 17:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Jameboy! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Prodego talk  20:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Peer Review
As a footie specialist, can I ask you to contribute to Peer review/Italian football champions --Dweller 13:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Logo
The Alphawiki logo was not a copyright violation. It was similar to that of the football league, but I created it myself, changing the colours and the text. So it was different, and I created it. There was no reason in having it deleted. Eaomatrix 12:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I never actually said it was a copyright violation, nor did I suggest it should be deleted. I was merely pointing out the similarities. --Jameboy 19:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Lee Marshall (footballer)
Those were exactly the type of references needed to remove the need for that tag. Quatloo 12:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Sam Allardyce‎
I was pretty much just reverting a few changes by an anon. There were two nick-name lines so I got rid of the 2nd one. It seems that nick-names are not included at all,

Good luck at Wembley. Despite my user name I definately not a Derby County fan. Ram4eva 05:29, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Phil Whitehead
Was wondering what you mean by 'template not needed'? I assume you must feel strongly in order to undo my edit. Thanks. --Jameboy 20:04, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't think I had a reply from you before. Can you give some guidance regarding the height templates, as I noticed you are actively removing them. Are these templates deprecated or not? Do you have a link to the relevant guideline or discussion? Thanks. --Jameboy 21:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry, your message got hidden by a subsequent one. Have a look at Template_talk:Infobox_Football_biography.  There is no consensus for using this template in infoboxes.  My view is that it should be used as an aid to conversion of units, but as that conversion will not change, the template should not stay inline and should be subst'd.  At the moment, subst'ing height makes things look clunky so I'm compromising by not removing it unless another edit has to be made, but there needs to be consensus to add the use of the template, not remove it.  robwingfield «T•C» 09:21, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Image Fair Use
To be honest, the rules keep changing and I'm as confused as anyone is. I uploaded the image but another use made half of the fair use rationale, although I've done some of the points. From now I'll be basing my fair use rationale on this image, which has been reviewed and passed. Also check out Non-free_content if you've not already done so, which is quite confusing and keeps changing. Englishrose 17:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

STFC
It was simply because tthe page was long out of date and inaccurate...for example, two players at #6, one called Lee Canoville, another called Lee Tanobille. Lee Canoville left in May. I think wikipedia could the only place where the squad list is remotely up to date or accurate! slυмgυм [ ←→ ] 16:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

début / debut
Hi. I would have thought that, technically, début should only appear in fr.wikipedia (the French language version), because there is an English language alternative available, as you point out yourself. If there is no alternative, then the accented version obviously must be used. The editor in question is probably trying to ensure correct local usage in articles, therefore converted your spelling into the one more suitable for en.wikipedia language. The same tends to apply for English-based articles preferring (e.g.) "naturalise" to "naturalize", whilst the opposite is true of US-based material. Thanks. Ref (chew) (do) 20:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the star
Just a quick note to say cheers for the barnstar, it was much appreciated Foxhill 00:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries, thanks for your help. --Jameboy 10:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

NOLU
Hi Jameboy, thanks for the expanation. Yes, I see what your'e saying, but I feel that the sociological implications of what at face value, seems to be just a simple chant are enormous and it is far too important to just be plonked into the Millwall article. It says: "You don't like us, well good, we don't want you to, we will abuse you because we have taken enough of your abuse. We will abuse you because you are black, brown, white, have ginger hair, a police woman with big ears and we just feel like doing it because it's fun, and it upsets your lower middle class sensibilities and because you are not a Millwall fan." And much more.

I have the relevant book somewhere, I'll dig it out and improve the article. Up The Baggies! (not bin up yor way for a while now :) Take care, Lion King 15:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Notability of Midget (band)
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Famous WBA supporters
I've left a comment on WP:FOOTY about it. Mattythewhite 17:50, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, that's cool. Happy to follow whatever consensus is reached. --Jameboy 17:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okie dokie. Have you ever thought of putting the article up for peer review? Looks close to GA to me. Mattythewhite 14:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Daughter articles such as history, records etc have no effect at all on the main articles rating. York City's hisotry article is in quite a state itself, but the main article is FA. So thats nothing to worry about. Mattythewhite 15:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Poll about Category:FA Premier League clubs and similar categories
I've created a poll to decide what to do with Category:FA Premier League clubs and similar categories at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football. Feel free to vote (and voice your opinions) and alert other related Wikipedians. Thanks. Chanheigeorge 18:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Villa
I'll do what i can we i have time and ill have a word myself or get one of the admin to warn him! Thanks (Everlast1910(Talk) 09:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC))

Clearing ups from PORTUGAL
HELLO THERE JAMEBOY, THIS IS VASCO FROM PORTUGAL, user nº217.129.67.28.

I tend to remove those because i felt the stats were still aligned without them and it made for an easier read. If they are really necessary, it is the LAST TIME i will remove any. Thanks for the tip, and for the constructive manner in which it was presented. DID YOU KNOW I WAS THREATENED WITH PERMANENT BLOCKING FOR ADDING DEFAMATORY INFO TO AN ARTICLE WHEN ALL I DID WAS CORRECT THE ARTICLE'S POOR ENGLISH AND THE DEFAMATION WAS ALREADY THERE? AND ARTICLES HAVE THEIR OWN EDIT HISTORY!!!

Anyway, getting a little out of the question, thanks jame for the info, have a nice weekend and i'll WIKI-SEE YOU!!

VASCO AMARAL, PORTUGAL

Jack Smith
Hi. Sorry it took a while. Had to remember which was which. Must have been great when they played for Torquay at the same time! WikiGull 17:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

YCFC
Thanks! What a day it was though. The vandalism was, well, quite pathetic really. This is a lovely example. And anyone with more than an imaginary £500,000 would be an improvement! Mattythewhite 14:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Wolves
Hi Jameboy, i was just wondering if you would care to edit the Wolverhampton Wanderers wikipedia pages as well as our pages are lacking in comparison to the West Brom pages and you would be the best man for the job.

Dave Lewis, Head of Wolves internet connections. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.189.82.128 (talk) 10:05, August 29, 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow, praise from the Wolves, whatever next! Seriously thankyou for the kind comments, it's nice to be recognised for doing a good job. Once I can get the Albion page up to 'Good article' standard, I would like to do some minor work on the Wolves page (and other Midlands club articles), but to get a great article you probably need someone who is an expert on the club, which I am not. Have you thought about registering on Wikipedia and contributing yourself? Anyone can edit Wikipedia, after all. Cheers. --Jameboy 10:20, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Robson
Hey, thanks for your suggestion, I'm looking into it right now. It would be good if you could add your comments to the on-going FAC as well, especially if you have other ways to improve the article! All the best, The Rambling Man 13:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks for your comments and helpful additions. I've implemented a lot of them, some of them I haven't (yet) but have stated why against your comments.  Thanks again.  The Rambling Man 10:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Re:your succession box notes, very well spotted and forgive me for thinking they were are transcluded, quite wrong. So, I've fixed them to at least be consistent with each other.  They do still link to sections but I don't think that's a big problem.  All Manager->manager and all clubs are formally noted, e.g. with the F.C. etc where relevant.  Cheers for the spot!  The Rambling Man 17:11, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Bayern Munich 1 - 2 Norwich City
Hi. I could be miles off, but I do genuinely believe this is notable. I've replied to your comment... the article's also vastly improved. And please do also read the rest of the discussion that's followed your contribution. I'd be grateful if you reviewed your opinion. Thanks. --Dweller 17:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Sir Bobby
Thanks for your support, his article was promoted to featured status last night. Hurrah! The Rambling Man 10:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)