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Userpage Layout
Is there any apparent reason why you have taken my userpage layout? It seems almost identical and some of the information on it is actually not factual to yourself. Extranet (Talk 08:32, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm. As far as I can see, all the information is factual, but if you abosolutely don't want me to copy your User Page Layout, I'll come up eith something else Dvyjonest&middot;c&middot;e 09:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

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Features and admins
I hope you don't mind, but I did the Features and admins this week already. The Placebo Effect 18:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Extranet
I'm just back from Wikibreak. I'll take a squint at the classroom when I've caught my breath. --Dweller 10:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

User page
Thanks for the revert. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 05:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Image contributions
Hi Extranet. Thanks for nominating a photo at WP:FPC. I had a look at some of your other images and I'm a little concerned that you may not understand Wikipedia's image policies and the copyright laws they're based on. Some of your images appear to be incorrectly tagged as your own photographs when in fact their copyright is owned by other people or organisations, for example this image which is actually owned by Tourism Queensland. At 15 it seems rather unlikely that you are an employee or contractor of Tourism Queensland and thus it appears that you are claiming credit for work created by others. Copyright violation (and falsely claiming credit) is illegal and could land both you and Wikipedia in trouble. I therefore request that you provide evidence of your ownership of the images you have uploaded, or inform me here of their actual origin so that we can take the necessary steps to correct any mistakes you may have made when uploading them. Thanks for understanding; best wishes, --YFB ¿  00:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for leaving the message. I don't really know how it could be as the image is somehow got into my 'personal photo' collection. Thanks for letting me know about this and as a precaution, I think it should be deleted immediately. It was my mistake and I do strongly apologise for this. What deletion tag would be the best to use for this situation? Could you please help me get this off as soon as possible as I do not want to get myself in trouble. Additionally, I will read over the Wikipedia image guidelines. Many thanks, Extranet (Talk 00:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * That's OK - we all make mistakes. We can certainly get the image deleted promptly, we just need to remove the incorrect licence details and replace them with a template. We should also be careful to make sure all the other images you've uploaded are properly licenced - are you sure? I'm not convinced about Hugh Laurie or the Sydney lightning photo, for example. Might it be best if you listed here all the photos you remember taking personally, and we'll get all the others deleted to be on the safe side? It would be unfortunate to miss any inadvertently. We can keep this discussion on your talk page, to save it getting fragmented. --YFB  ¿  00:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, the following images that I have uploaded are strictly my own: Image:SydneyAustraliaLightning.jpg (took during a holiday to Sydney this year with family), Image:Southbank Vine.jpg (taken during a day at Southbank with the family), Image:HughLauriePortrait.jpg (is actually a relatives from his own photography) and the Image:ADSL Modem Chip.jpg (taken personally on my own desk). Which leaves just the Image:Southbank Lagoon.jpg one which is the one we've been talking about. Can you possibly get the lagoon image up for deletion? I am so sorry if I have caused any inconvenience. Extranet (Talk 00:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Right, that's a bit clearer. Unfortunately for the Hugh Laurie image it's not possible for you to release it into the public domain as you aren't the author. You'd need to get a written permission from the actual photographer who owns the copyright and have that forwarded to the Wikimedia Foundation at permissions@wikimedia.org. Now a slightly odd question - the Sydney lightning photo, you're absolutely sure you took it this year on holiday with your family? Please be truthful, making false statements about things like this is pretty serious. --YFB ¿  00:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi YFB, as they are both relative photos, maybe I should just get both of them deleted. I know this is serious policy and as a precaution, I would like to delete all my uploaded photos (including mine and relatives). This is a bit too stressful for me and I'd just rather delete them then get questioned on them. Extranet (Talk 00:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry if it's stressing you out, I'm sure you have good intentions and I don't want to seem like I'm questioning you unfairly. However, it's very important that you understand the implications of the copyright statements on Wikipedia images. If you release work into the public domain when you don't have the authority to do so, you can end up in serious legal trouble. For that reason it's absolutely essential that you obtain proper permission before uploading work by relatives or friends. The reason I asked about the Sydney lightning photo is because it was uploaded to Webshots by judyann209 in September 2004, so there's no way you could have taken it last year on holiday with your family.
 * There's no need to delete photos from Wikipedia that you really did take yourself - they're useful to the project and it'd be silly to delete them just because you made some mistakes with other images. We assume good faith at Wikipedia so unless there's a clear reason to doubt your statements, it's unlikely they'll be questioned. If you're really worried about it, we can tag all your images for speedy deletion, but that's a bit drastic for those where there's no real reason to doubt that you took them, for example the ADSL modem and the Optivisor thingy. I see that you've uploaded a lot of copyrighted logos etc. and used the right tags and rationales on them, so it's clear that you have tried to adhere to our policies.
 * Thank you for being prepared to admit your mistakes and put them right. I'm glad this discussion has prompted you to read through the copyright policies a bit more thoroughly. Don't be disheartened, just be careful that your copyright statements are 100% accurate in future, to avoid any further problems. Happy editing, --YFB ¿  01:14, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

(outdent, copied from YFB's talk) Yes, I am taking it pretty seriously and I appreciate your kind help. In future, I will double check with any family members and/or online websites before I release personal copyright tags. As I have said, I am taking this pretty seriously and would like you to help me in deleting the following images: Image:SydneyAustraliaLightning.jpg, Image:Southbank Vine.jpg, Image:HughLauriePortrait.jpg and Image:Southbank Lagoon.jpg. They should do with the workload and I will always double check copyright violations in future. I do understand if you require to give me a temporary ban from Wikipedia for all this. I do still strongly apologise to anyone concerned. Many thanks, Extranet (Talk 01:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll tag all those images appropriately (in fact I've already started!). I'm not an admin, so we'll have to wait a bit for them to actually get deleted. Before tagging them it's important to check that they're not used in any articles by looking at the "What links here" section on the image description page, and remove them where necessary.
 * Your apologies are accepted - as I said, we all make mistakes and it's good to be able to admit them and learn from them. Don't worry about being blocked, I'm sure that won't be necessary. I hope you enjoy your vacation :-) --YFB ¿  01:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Features and Admins
I finshed this weeks by adding pictures. I also made new templates for FAR, FPC so they can have a link to the nom as well. I added them to your template. Also, since i helped, i hope you dont mind that i addded my name SECOND on the authors list. The Placebo Effect 02:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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Bbot
I must strongly suggest you cease operating this bot. Much discussion has gone into the topic a while back (don't remember the exact pages though, sorry) and it was decided the bot would go against our main objective which is to improve the community, not post automatic wishes, especially when the wishes are just templates. I've posted this at the talks of both Extranet and ST47, I suggest discussion continues on ST47's page. +Hexagon1 (t) 06:52, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Features and Admins
No Problem, I'll write it this week. The Placebo Effect 12:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

1st edit
Thank you for the First Edit Day greetings :) NoSeptember  05:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you from me too. I am sorry that I replied late, I was occupied. Ac s 4b 13:18, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, i'm trying to edit "Elephant", but it won't let me. How do I do that? Six16 22:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm back from wikibreak
I read your work with Dweller on the VC. Nicely done. I've also gone over your contributions over the past month. I see you are getting some good experience. I like the fact that you've proposed a bot. Excellent effort. Mine got shot down too - even before I got it to BAG. :( And for the same reason.  I proposed a welcome bot.  The community thought that automating that process would be dehumanizing, and that all welcomes should be done by live editors (who can individulize their welcomes).  I suppose the same thing applies to birthday congratulations - the congratulation doesn't hold much meaning if nobody is congratulating you.  Oh well, better luck next time.  I've wracked my brain for another bot idea, but I haven't come up with any good ones - yet.

Keep up the good work exploring Wikipedia's various departments.

I've posted a new critique and assignment for you on the VC. I, and the rest of the coaches/students, look forward to seeing you there.  Th e Tr ans hu man ist    22:50, 21 April 2007 (UTC)