User talk:James Willis Walter

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Charlie Sailor (October 15)
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 * Thank you for your help. I give a citation by Amazon on this man and his works. That is published, reliable and a secondary source which is independent of Mr. Sailor. I plan to add a lot more, but I don't understand why this does not already qualify. Again, thank you for your help. James Willis Walter (talk) 00:00, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Draft:Charlie Sailor


The page Draft:Charlie Sailor has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appeared to be a direct copy from https://web.archive.org/web/20190216060306/http://www.charlessailor.com/about/ and https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000AQ754S/about. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition has been be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Welcome!
Hello, James Willis Walter, and welcome to Wikipedia!&#32;Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article.&#32;Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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 * I do not work for, I am not, Nor do I represent the subject of the article.
 * This account is used by only myself.
 * I will receive no compensation. James Willis Walter (talk) 09:53, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

October 2023
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Apart from anything else, using sales sites as references is obvious spam Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:26, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your help. I will remove the links to Amazon and replace them with reviews of the books. But I don't see how to do that? Or have you already deleted the draft?
 * Again, Thank you for your help James Willis Walter (talk) 09:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes deleted the draft for reason "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: self written vanity page, see WP:COI, WP:RS, WP:Notability (people)" per the info on Draft:Charlie Sailor, and the previous deletion was for a copyright violation that I had missed. KylieTastic (talk) 10:34, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help.
 * I recreated the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Charlie_Sailor
 * Please let me know if it passes muster
 * jimmy James Willis Walter (talk) 10:43, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

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You have an obvious conflict of interest, please don't write about yourself, your friends or relatives and read the guidance below:


 * When you write about a person, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.


 * Your references are review sites and self-editable sites, not independent third-party sources


 * In any case the refs are bare urls and not in line so we have no idea what facts each is supporting, even if they were proper refs


 * No indication of how he meets the notablity criteria lined above, no awards or any other verified real facts


 * You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.


 * unreferenced claims include Best Selling Author on the NY Times list... 6 million copies sold after the first ever 1.2 million copy first printing.  Your text is basically just a list of his nbooks, he doesn't even appear to have a nationality

You also have no wikilinks and your text is unformatted.
 * There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
 * You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. If you are writing about yourself, or someone you know as a friend, colleague, client, employer or relative, you have a conflict of interest, and you must disclose the nature of that COI. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:24, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * What is my obvious conflict of interest? James Willis Walter (talk) 12:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Mr JimfBkeak, I want to comply with your requirements and format. Please consider, that my very first attempt was merely a quote from an Amazon reviewer that I rephrased, not really an opinion at all, just statements of fact, though unproven. Therefore, it shows no obvious bias on my part. It also had the link to that quote on Mr Sailor's author page on Amazon. No one told me at that time that that was promotion. So I rewrote it and resubmitted it and added links. Then that was instantly deleted. It was not published. So then I had to redo everything, not merely delete what was wrong with it. Then again because I linked to Amazon's book pages, it was instantly deleted. I know you have your reasons, but it was very frustrating to me. Moreover, you kept saying I was obviously biased. I am not a friend, employee nor paid promoter of Mr Sailor. So it is not obvious to me at all. I read the book and liked it. I have watched the shows he wrote for and liked them. Are the only people who write for Wikipedia indifferent? If so, why would they write since they are not paid?
 * At any rate, I did some digging found out that The Second Son was on the paperback NY times list from 8 days after its release on 10/15/19 for 12 weeks until December of that year, but there is no archive of the NYT paperback best seller list. By going to the NY Times past issues list I have found in them copies of the lists, but that is not linkable. Should I upload copies of those pages and if so, how.
 * I am more than willing to comply with your requirements, but references and formatting. I intended to but did not want to put in all that work only to have Wikipedia instantly delete them and make me redo it with minor changes.
 * So where do we go from here? James Willis Walter (talk) 11:49, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Not but, but both references and formatting - sorry, typo James Willis Walter (talk) 11:51, 18 October 2023 (UTC)