User talk:Jamesbeat

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I had to remove the information you added to the Rolf Hammerschmidt article since the requirements per WP:BLP state that such controversial information must be sourced by a reliable source.

If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place  on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! &mdash;meco 08:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Pavel Matous
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Birth name
Please note I have restored the actor's real name with a very well sourced link. The actor's or studios alleged and unsourced dislike of this fact does NOT allow censorship of an actor's real name. John celona (talk) 01:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to do here what I did on the article talk page, because it's rude to do that on your page. But I urge you to do it here.  The lock is stopping the name from being outed in the article.  I've done the same on the articles talk page.  Will you please do it here?  I address that request either to John or to Jamesbeat. David in DC (talk) 04:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for deleting the birth name here. I figured only you should do that. David in DC (talk) 15:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Deleting info
Please note I have deleted the name again. The actor's or studios dislike of publishing real names does allow to be respected. This has nothing to do with censorship but with ethics. Learning from the Johan Paulik case publishing real names of actor's in the adult business is helping stalkers. The link was very well in existence when the discussion about the name started and it was not used. You might think about that. (Jamesbeat (talk) 12:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC))

Birth Names
Please consider making a comment here. Thanks. David in DC (talk) 15:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Unreliable Sources
What you indicate about unreliable sources is quite true I concur with what you say however as far as this discussion/argument goes Mary Millington her stage name was born Mary Ruth Quilter pure and simple and her married name of Maxted and birth name should indeed be mentioned in the WP surely her own family who are aware of her birth name they gave permission for a book to be published by the renown author Simon Sheridan to whit there are umpteen books out there that indicate Mary's birth name and I have most, including her own,then of course there was the newspapers of the time that splashed her stage name about then indicated underneath her real name, if research stands up to scrutiny which this by Gavcrimson does it should be mentioned, if its contested and proven wrong then it should be withdrawn. Gavcrimson is a major contributor to the WP and many other sites as far as I can see he references articles where he can then dates them. I come from a research background and I can see no obvious reason for excluding the quite lovely Mary's name from the WP, however if you know different I am listening.. this chap trying to discredit Gavcrimson is wrong and if he had the courage of his convictions he would tell the wider audience why he thinks he is right.. Rbt Foot [created on 23:57, 12 August 2008 by 84.13.25.63; moved from user page to talk page Jamesbeat (talk) 11:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)]


 * This is not about discreting Gavcrimson but about reliable sources. Unfortunately some of the sources cited by him were not reliable sources according to WP standards. I myself see no problem with the Mary Millington page now since Gavcrimson put in the Simon Sheridan book as reference. Until a few days ago the name was not referenced at all. As user A  ni  Mate  just stated on this ongoing discussion []: "Any controversial claim, and revealing a birth name that has intentionally obscured is controversial, must have an excellent reliable source."
 * With all due respect please read Wikipedia's policies on reliable sources and Biographies of living persons prior to repeat wrong assumptions about an editor. Thank you.
 * (Jamesbeat (talk) 11:51, 13 August 2008 (UTC) - addition 19:29, 13 August 2008 (UTC))

Thank you
for reverting the vandalism to my user page before I even knew about it. David in DC (talk) 18:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Your welcome. That guy was also active on my page as you might have noticed. I moved his writing to my talk page and just added a comment. (Jamesbeat (talk) 19:29, 13 August 2008 (UTC))

Bel Ami George Duroy Section
Sorry Jamesbeat and 3vil-Lyn not so nice of the 2 of you to what you did to newbie accountforwp. Be warned if you do something like this again to a newbie I will report you immediately with the request of a life ban, so be warned. Now back to the discussion. George Duroy is relevant to this Bel Ami page because he is the founder of the brand and is also already mentioned in the introduction paragraph. Agree with you that Accountforwp should not add links to untrusted newspapers, however the link to the EU Trademark office is fully in line with rules.

Therefore I will re-added the George Duroy section, once again Jamesbeat and 3vil-Lyn if you delete the George Duroy section I will report your action directly to the administrator. Kind regards from Dallas --123pure456 (talk) 18:57, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Jamesbeat, just read what you wrote to the admin Papa November, let it go, you don't own the Bel Ami page, sorry man, just agree with Accountforwp Cheer up --123pure456 (talk) 19:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Bel Ami page
Hi Jamesbeat question; why do you delete the George Duroy section becaus there was according to you no source provided and leave all the other statements which also have no source on the page? Ex. statement that Sebastion Bonnet is working as a camera man,where is the source? Same for Johan Paulik as camera man, where is the source. Bel Ami is Bratislava based, where is the source? Estabilshed by George Duroy, where is the source? Founded in 1993, where is the source? Best known models? who says so, where is the source?

So please delete all the section or statements for which there is no source or I will do it for you :-)

--123pure456 (talk) 15:54, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * When did I say that there is no source for the George Duroy section? What I and several other editors told you is that your source violates Wikipedia principles and therefore can not be used.


 * For Biographies of Living Persons (BLP) there are much stricter rules to be followed than for mere facts.
 * Editors must take particular care adding biographical material about a living person to any Wikipedia page. Such material requires a high degree of sensitivity, and must adhere strictly to all applicable laws in the United States and to all of our content policies, especially:
 * Neutral point of view (NPOV)
 * Verifiability
 * No original research
 * ''"We need to stick to REAL reliable sources, you know, like newspapers, magazines, books. Random websites are a very bad idea."--Jimbo Wales (founder of Wikipedia) 18:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Biographies of living persons (BLPs) must be written conservatively, with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid.


 * Even if your source would be considered reliable it could not be used as in all cases when the name of a private individual has not been widely disseminated OR HAS BEEN INTENTIONALLY CONCEALED, which is the case here, it is often preferable to omit it, especially when doing so does not result in a significant loss of context, which is also the case here.


 * What I have deleted as unsourced is all information in your George Duroy section that is not covered by your source. As said elsewhere this information your source provides is already in the article. So no need to add it again. For the name see above.


 * All this does not necessarily apply to facts that are known to the public. Some of the facts you claim have no source are to be found on the Bel Ami website. You have to seek consens for your action on the article's talk page before deleting all information you say there is no source for. Without doing so and just deleting most of the article your action might be considered vandalism. (Jamesbeat (talk) 22:31, 24 August 2008 (UTC))

A kind offer from User:Sarcasticidealist
Dear Jamesbeat,

Check this out, for future reference, if not for now. Cheers, David in DC (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Bel Ami
"Well done" at Bel Ami, I do not know what kind of conflict of interest you have here, but you should definitely not be here. Calling quoations from a companies register and trademarks register "crap" and "original research" is the most primitive thing I have ever heard. And calling something a "company" which actually is no company, because there is no such company under the name, is simply insane. Good luck in further vandalism. I certainly will not correct the text ever again. What a wonderful language version of the wikipedia this is, full of experts, a dream, isnt it...

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