User talk:Jamesontai/Archive 3

WP Meetup in Miami, January 12th
Thanks for the invite to this event. I'll try & make it if I can -- I greatly appreciate the invite & enjoyed working with you on the Melbourne, Florida page in the past. Semper Fi, FieldMarine (talk) 18:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Burkem34 Afd's
It's possible those are copyvio articles, but I was wondering if you noticed that it seems to be a brand new editor and that they may not be aware of that?Awotter (talk) 08:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Understandable, but look at the references. I still don't know whether the "source" is a source or if it's some random name... Please look at the user's talk page.  I have notified him regarding one of article's sources already, but he proceeded to posting three new articles after my message, hence AfDs across the board to get him to notice. - Jameson L. Tai  talk ♦ contribs 09:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for responding, I guess my concern is yes, you may "get him to notice" but you may also be discouraging a new editor who doesn't know better. I've been trying to do a search to see if these are copyright violations, but no matches so far. I'm just not sure that immediately tagging these for deletion all at the same time was the best thing to do. As it stands i just added reference sections, I'm hesitant to start cleaning them up until I can be certain they aren't copyvio, but I will do what I can. Thanks! Awotter (talk) 09:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletions
Hi Jameson, I've noticed that you seem to be a little hasty with your speedy deletion tagging today. I don't think you can get much clearer indications of importance/significance than "currently the editor of The Sunday Times (South Africa)" and "well known for writing the first episode of the simpsons". Phil Bridger (talk) 10:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

AirportWatch
Please can you review your criticism of the AirportWatch article and consider removing the banner. Note that I have moved he article from Airport Watch -> AirportWatch. Thanks PeterIto (talk) 11:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Upon further review of the article, I still find very biased keywords in the article. I will post my findings on the article's discussion page.  - Jameson L. Tai  talk ♦ contribs 12:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I have seen your changes to the article and also your comments on the talk page; I have responded to your concerns on the talk page. Personally I think you have over-reacted and look forward to hearing the results of your investigations and hope you will agree to get the article down from Defcon2.PeterIto (talk) 14:38, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see the article's discussion page for a detailed explanation of the changes I have made. Personally, I do not believe I have overreacted.  I simply fixed NPOV and copyright violations from the article.  However, after reading it over after my latest changes, the article still needed to be fixed.  I have placed new tags, indicated by new datestamps, in the areas where this article can improve upon.  Please do not be offended, but as pointers in order to nudge the article in the right direction.  - Jameson L. Tai  talk ♦ contribs 15:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Redirects
The red linked redirects are because some articles about certain cities have not been created. As soon as the articles are created, the red-links will go away. They are call broken redirects by the way. Ohmpandya  ( Talk )  16:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

-- My apologizes, my bot is malfunctioning,m fixing this right away!! sorry! Ohmpandya  ( Talk )  17:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem, take your time! :D Happy editing/bot fixing!  - Jameson L. Tai  talk ♦ contribs 17:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:The Crimson.png)
Thanks for uploading Image:The Crimson.png. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 22:36, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Leif Lampater
Hi Jameson, I saw you put some tags or whatever they are called here on the page I just created about Leif Lampater. Those tags basically all said that the information I provided was not sourced, but I guess you didnt see the external links I added to the article. All the information is from those websites and thus it is sourced. Sorry I am pretty new here and I have only been checking Wikipedia out for a few days before I signed up, but I think I did a pretty good job there as well as in the other articles I edited and created so far. If I am doing something wrong, please let me know. Amanda AmandaPirato (talk) 03:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Amanda, don't worry about that. I don't believe the article was marked for deletion, and the tags are only "pointers", if you want to call it that, for other editors so they can focus on fixing those problems.  Please check out Wikipedia's policies on external links (WP:EL), citing sources (WP:CITE), and (WP:RS) for further reference.


 * Now that I get the standard "just read blah blah blah" message out of the way...lol, I think you did a pretty good job with the article myself. However, you need a "Reference" section, an automatically generated reference list , and in-line citations.  An article with only external links and no reference sections generally come off as either a self-promotion article or some form of advertising, rather than a meaningful display of facts.  Think of it as writing a term paper (yeah... unfortunately...) and you have to use those little flash cards from when you were in high school to summarize the facts of the paper with where exactly you got the information from in MLA, APA, or some other proper citation format.


 * Another thing,the list of career highlights looks very professional, but I'm going to tag it with  because the list of accomplishments can be easily broken down into written sections, so it looks less of a timeline and more of an encyclopedia article! :-)


 * I hope this helps, let me know if you have any further questions. - Jameson L. Tai  talk ♦ contribs 08:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Jameson, thanks for your message and explaining me more about this project. Seems to be very helpful. First of all I agree about what you were telling me when it comes to have these results mentioned more detailed in the main article. Actually that is the way I did it in the Danny Stam article already before I created the Leif Lampater one, but I thought of doing that at a later stage because I wanted to have at least the article up already. Feel free to check if the Danny Stam article is up to your standards when it comes to that.


 * About the citing sources you were making me aware of, I'm sorry I didn't include those yet, but I didn't know how to work with them yet. I will do some research on the pages you showed me and I will be trying to find examples of articles with the same stuff so I learn from it how to use it and I will no longer bother you with wrongly created articles. Amanda T /<font color="Orange"> C 21:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Invite
From - (User:Jccort) 22:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for Typo Fixing in the Heidelberg University article! Do you think it could meet the GA criteria? Fred Plotz (talk) 12:36, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Florida Tech Logo
Thanks for that attractive Florida Tech logo! Student7 (talk) 17:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks. I've been looking for some sort of text wrap for the userboxes. I added a clear tag so you should be able to see them now. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 19:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

John Hancock
Is there any way I can prevail on you to reduce the size of your signature a bit? It's quite jarring. Aipzith (talk) 08:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It's fine the way it is for now. Wikipedia does cap the size of signatures on the preferences and my signature is within their tolerances.  Thanks for your concern.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 14:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Crane Creek (Melbourne, Florida)
Article launched as per your suggestion. The FIT article is looking great...BZ! FieldMarine (talk) 16:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

New WP:UNI/COTF!
Round 4 has begun! <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 06:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Substing COTF template
Hey! Thanks for keeping me updated with COTF happenings. When you send out the template updates I encourage you to subst it instead. That way past template postings won't change when the COTF articles are changed. You just need to change  to   when you post it on user pages. After typing this I realized you might have just started doing this for the most recent post, but just in case I am letting you know. Thanks again.— Noetic  Sage  14:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought I did that... please check your code. :-) <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 21:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I did. Look, the date you have on the template is the old date when I sent it (I had a typo on there because I only switched the article names, not the COTF date.  However the date is fixed on the actual  template.  :-)<font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 21:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Code test on my own user talk page for hug
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> has hugged you! Hugs promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better (and hopefully wasn't meant as an invasion of personal space). Spread the WikiLove by hugging at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Hug others by adding {{subst:Hug}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> User:Example User has hugged you! Hugs promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better (and hopefully wasn't meant as an invasion of personal space). Spread the WikiLove by hugging at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Hug others by adding {{subst:Hug}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs has hugged you! Hugs promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better (and hopefully wasn't meant as an invasion of personal space). Spread the WikiLove by hugging at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Hug others by adding {{subst:Hug}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> User:Example User has hugged you! Hugs promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better (and hopefully wasn't meant as an invasion of personal space). Spread the WikiLove by hugging at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Example User Hug others by adding {{subst:Hug}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> User:Example User has hugged you! Hugs promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better (and hopefully wasn't meant as an invasion of personal space). Spread the WikiLove by hugging at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 22:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC) Hug others by adding {{subst:Hug}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs has hugged you! Hugs promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better (and hopefully wasn't meant as an invasion of personal space). Spread the WikiLove by hugging at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 22:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC) Hug others by adding {{subst:Hug}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Your input is required.
Diff. · AndonicO  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:navy;">Hail!  01:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Commonwealth English ≠ typos
Hi, Jameson. I reverted an edit of yours that identified "extra-curricular" as a typo and relaced it with "extracurricular." The former is correct in Australian English (see American and British English spelling differences). The latter is correct in the US, which is where I'm guessing the dictionary your script is using to pick up typos was published (assuming that's how you're seeking out typos).

If you're using a dictionary-based automated script, you may want to have it ignore compund words, or perhaps have it also incorporate the OED or some other British dictionary, just so you don't end up making unnecessary changes back and forth between national varieties of English. Thanks. <font color="#285991">--Dynaflow  <font color="#285991">babble  04:32, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Dynaflow, I've been noticing them as well. Unfortunately, I cannot operate AWB on university computers so I had to use AWB at my university via remote access.  Shrinking a 1280x1024 resolution to a 13.3" tablet monitor + the standard Windows borders from the browser also didn't help me catch the dashes until I started reading my contrib logs.  I have written to the program's talk page here.  I am using a SVN, but the typo detection should be the same as the standard builds.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 06:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, okay; I didn't realize you were using AWB. I thought it was some script you had homebrewed.
 * So, if I understand you correctly, you're SSH'ing into your home computer and logging in with RDP or something like that -- just to fix typos more efficiently? That's fairly hard core.  I would expect no less from a fellow San Franciscan, though (I just noticed on your userpage that you went to Lowell).  =)  <font color="#285991">--Dynaflow   <font color="#285991">babble  09:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Nomination
Given our past interactions, my evaluation of your Wikipedia history, and as a fellow Lowellite, I believe you would greatly benefit Wikipedia (and be greatly benefited yourself) with the adminship tools. Would you want to be an administrator? <div class="boilerplate metadata" id="rfa" style="margin: 0 5%; padding: 0 7px 7px 7px; background: #FFFAEF; border: 1px solid #999999; text-align: left; font-size:95%;"> Kurykh would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Kurykh to accept or decline the nomination. A page will be or has been created for your nomination at Requests for adminship/ . If you accept the nomination, you must formally state and sign your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so. The nomination page has not yet been created pending your acceptance or rejection. — Kurykh  09:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I have created the nom page. Add acceptance signature, answer the questions, transclude page on WP:RFA, and good luck! — Kurykh  19:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

A couple of questions for you. –Pomte 22:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

It seems like I indeed put you on the chopping block instead of on a path to adminship. I apologize. — Kurykh  22:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No no no, it was a joke! :-) Don't worry about it. <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 22:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I know it was a joke. I was just taking the analogy into another context. — Kurykh  22:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Best of luck, and I understand your comments at your RfA. Bearian (talk) 23:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Right of foreigners to vote - bot error
Your "bot" transformed 1988 Brazilian Constitution into 1988 Brazilian Constitution. --Pylambert (talk) 09:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Welcoming Newbies
Hey There,

I noticed you put a reference to a speedy tag on a new user's page without "welcoming" them. I always try to put a {subst:welcome!} on a newbie's page in addition to the warning -- encourages them to "try, try again", you know? Just a suggestion. We were all newbies once!! :-) Anyway good luck with the adminship. Cheers, laurap414 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 16:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for suggesting that. However, I don't believe WP:TW has a function to add {{subst:welcome!}} on a page when it is not there.  Please note that the messages on the talk page are completely automatically generated.  Please review WP:TW for details.  Have a great day!  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 16:56, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You may be interested in WP:FRIENDLY, it is the TWINKLE equivalent for tagging all types of pages, including welcoming users. <font face="Harlow Solid Italic" size="3px" color="teal">Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 05:28, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Sportscreamer (talk) 18:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)Sportscreamer comments for Jamestontai
Dear Jameson Tai:

I have read up on your talk page, and your achievements are very commendable. How would it be possible to set up a new Wikipedia page on an area author named Joseph Janczak? He is the author of a recent book titled The Rocket: Baseball Legend Roger Clemens. This author's book was published a few weeks ahead of the Senator Mitchell Report on Steroids, yet it almost telepathically addressed the same issues as the Report. He has had articles written on him on Publishers Weekly, Potomac Books, Houston Chronicle, and others. Since the Roger Clemens controversy is in the news a lot lately, it is thought that this author should have a page on him. How would it be possible to restate the info that has been speedily deleted? Would a stub page be sufficient?

Thank you for your time and advice.

Sportscreamer (talk) 18:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)Sportscreamer


 * My best advice for you is to be familiar with WP:BLP. I believe that this would be the best fitting Wikipedia policy that can answer your questions.  Please let me know if you have any further questions.  Oh, you might want to take a look at WP:CITE on proper citations as well.  I wish you good luck and sorry I can't help you more, but I'm actually right about to start class.  I'll take a look at it more after my Theory of Machines class in about three hours.  Happy editing until then!  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 20:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Your tags on United States v. Correll
I've removed your notability tag from this page as the subject is prima facie notable being a case decided by the Supreme Court of the United States. Just thought I'd let you know in case you encounter other SCOTUS case articles. Also, I just noticed that despite the fact that the article included references to the case itself, you marked it as unreferenced. In addition, there was no discussion on the talk page of any npov so I've removed that tag as well. Your expand and wikify tags are fine though. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 17:15, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Please note that there have been significant changes since I placed the tags on the article over a month ago. Regarding the unreferenced tag, I'm just about as puzzled as you are.  However, I don't believe "Id. at 303." is a properly cited source.  I might have been trying to tag it with the invalid citation tag or something.  Thanks for letting me know and updating me on the progress of this article.  Happy editing!  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 22:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Is something wrong with AWB?
Same article, same non-typo ... except it didn't change anything. You should probably call that to the AWB people's attention. <font color="#285991">--Dynaflow  <font color="#285991">babble  21:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Check your recent contribs with AWB, and take a look at the edit summaries vs. what the edits were actually doing. There may be a problem here.  <font color="#285991">--Dynaflow   <font color="#285991">babble  21:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There's nothing wrong with AWB. The word extra-curricular is a correct word when used in British English, while we're accustomed to "extracurricular" in American English.  I have been looking over every article's "typos" identified by AWB in case of these false positives.  AWB does have a flaw, in which it generates the ("typo" -> "fixed word") list before the user gets to accept changes, and when the user then ignores certain changes, AWB does not redo the list of typos, so there will be false alleged AWB corrections on the edit summaries that actually did not occur.  I have brought it up on AWB's talk page and I'm not the only user who's expressed these concerns.  Apparently it's been around since AWB's alpha build in version 3.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 22:04, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hey Jameson, I just wanted to thank you for your kind words and support at my RFA. I am sorry about your RFA, but just give it some time and in a couple months come and poke me and I would be proud to nominate you. I think you got what it takes, you just need some more time under your belt. Well thanks again, and if you are interested, when you are getting close to RFA'ing again, I could give you a little admin coaching, its your choice but the offer is out there. Hope all is well! <font face="Harlow Solid Italic" size="3px" color="teal">Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 18:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all your help. It feels like forever since this happened (...yet it feels like it was just yesterday).  I feel like I've been on Wikipedia growth hormones for the past four months, and I love to have someone admin coach me.  I've already signed myself up to be match with anyone to do some admin coaching, so when the time is right, please let me know and I'll be glad to do it.  Hopefully, it'll be a couple more months before I try to RfA again, I don't think I can do this near final exams...lol.  Thanks again and I'm glad your RfA went very smoothly.


 * PS: I think I'm going to have a couple of people to help me with List of Florida Institute of Technology Colleges and Laboratories and then move the page again to "Florida Institute of Technology Academics" or something. <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 19:09, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Your request
Done. — Kurykh  07:37, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Request for adminship
On this occasion, your request for adminship was not successful. I hope that you will continue your useful contributions to Wikipedia and may consider standing again in future. Remember, a majority of editors commenting did support your candidature. Warofdreams talk 21:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Do not give up, take the comments made in the oppose section and improve upon them, if you do that i will gladly support you in the future! Happy editing, Tiptoety  talk 03:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, glad to help, and like i said, improve and come back and prove us (the opposer's) all wrong, I think with some admin coaching you will surely pass your next RfA. I will keep my eye out for it! Cheers, Tiptoety  talk 05:10, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Just a little more experience, and the admin coaching, and if you continue along the same road, then I'll give you a support. Best of wishes! Spencer T♦C 11:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry you did not become an admin. You are a great user, but unfortunately you need a little more experience. When you run again in May 2008, you can almost guarantee support from me! - <font face="Papyrus" size="2px" color="#4D0100">Milk's  <font face="Papyrus" size="2px" color="#4D0100">Favorite  <font face="Papyrus" size="2px" color="#4D0100">Cookie  19:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to hear about your unsuccessful RfA. I hope I can make it to the next one. :) --Merovingian (T, C) 12:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

FYI
Please use subst when inviting users to WP:ROBO. for future reference, type in {{subst:Invite User WikiProject Robotics}}. Let me know if you have any further questions. <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 16:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Are you sure, Jamesontai, that I am right recipient for your posting? For I understand zero. Cheers, Str1977 (talk) 17:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * If it is User:Tasoskessaris you wanted inform, I have copied your posting unto his talk page. Cheers again, Str1977 (talk) 17:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting, I clicked on your earlier edit diff and it indicated that someone used the invalid format and it said you made the edit...but now I go back and it's not there... I might have been getting cross-eyed. Thanks for doing the leg work for me.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 07:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA.
Sorry, I didn't see your thank you note until now. Like you say, four months is too little time... mistakes aren't an issue though, we all make those. ;) By the way, I highly recommend WP:HUG (just don't get addicted, or you'll be infected with editcountitis!).

I'll try to help you with WP:ROBO. Can't promise anything about a meetup though... I'm going to be extremely busy in the near future (probably not going to be active much on wiki either, except mornings). · AndonicO  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:navy;">Hail!  19:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Right, you wanted me to explain my vote. Well, between exams and minor tech bugs, I haven't been on for the last week, so... sorry for the delay.


 * Anyway, as to why I opposed so strongly; To me, the time your on Wiki is irrelevant; its the time you are active, the time you edit. With only 3 months of solid experiance under your belt, I felt you were massively inexperianced for the job. Yes, I think now I was a bit hasty going strongly, and I'm sorry.


 * Anyway, as you said in the RFA thanks, you plan on running again in May? To be honest, I think (provided you are reasonable active in the time) that'd be a good idea, though proponing it for a month or two more wouldn't hurt. Suggesting a year more experience was a bit rash on my part, and (as said in a reply to said oppose) may have been a bit BITEy.


 * Once you get some good experiance, I'll gladly support. I just didn't feel as if you were ready at the time. Feel free to give me a heads up when your next RfA comes around. Jump! Slash! Dash! Ouch! Super Mario SonicBOOM! 17:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

21
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:red; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> Please accept my home made inkscaped -and rather cheap ;)- cake,  for your 21st birthday. I read about it when I was going through archived RfA discussions and decided to drop by! Turning 21 is a big deal, enjoy dude! :) <font size="2.5" color="blue">&Lambda;ua&int;  Wi  se  (talk) 13:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * opps typo.... it was "my friend" then I decided to change friend to "dude" and forgot to remove "my".. A really weird phrase it was.. sorry. <font size="2.5" color="blue">&Lambda;ua&int; Wi  se  (talk) 15:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * hahaha I had a good laugh over it, it's ok. It's the thought that counts! :D  Thanks again! <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 15:11, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday, sorry i don't have a present :( but anyway happy birthday :d &mdash; B o L 01:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

A long road ahead but I think we're winning
Btw, thanks for that fantastic banner and for adding it to the random banner collection so everyone sees it. I've gotten a lot of nice support for our project today, notably here. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 23:58, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your complement! I'm glad people are noticing our WikiProject, and I agree - most new WikiProjects generally receive the same kinds of roadblocks in the beginning, but what I'm hoping is that if we can hammer down with the core of the project in the beginning, we can have the project take off without too many technical troubles.  I'm glad people are commenting...and I agree with Keeper76, you are definitely one of the most well-spoken roboticists I've seen in a long time!  I'll be enjoying my new age for a little bit more this weekend, but if you need anything, please let me know.  I'll be working on some standard on the infoboxes and the rest of the red-linked categories.  Also, I'll be working on a new static banner (just a .png file) <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 02:34, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! (copied at my userpage as well so that the archives make sense). - Dan Dank55 (talk) 04:49, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:UNI/COTF Round 5
Sorry about the late notice. My 21st birthday was on Wednesday and I was pretty much sick all day Thursday, so I wasn't able to get a chance to do this. Anyways, three new articles.

Note: I didn't place the Portal on the ENT because I felt that the portal was more like a collection of articles rather than an actual article focused on the university. This semi-goes against our original goals of the COTF in which university articles would get attention first before handling the subarticles. (Portal is more like a collection of articles). Anyways, if you believe it should be back on the ENT, I'll make sure it'll be Round 6's ENT, so if you do feel it should, talk on the COTF talk page.

Oh yeah, I hope the coding works. I'm using WP:AWB to do signpost delivery by "Append Text"...hoping that it'll work. If this comes out horribly, please let me know if I haven't already fixed the error(s).

Any personal questions regarding the management and coding of this program should be directed to me talk page. Thank you for your understanding. <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 09:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * "me talk page"... wow so I just turned Irish?!?! <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 09:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Outreach page
Your suggestion to move the open letter to the outreach page is good...done. Please don't hesitate to make any edits you like at any time (the in-use tag is gone now). - Dan Dank55 (talk) 00:25, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Several admins have made very typical edits in the last 24 hours to new robotics pages...without knowing about any of the new discussion. I suggest this: instead of arguing with editors one by one, I'm going to create two additional subpages on the wikiproject.  The outreach page can be where new editors, especially hobbyists and students, can talk with each other and be introduced to the project.  There can be another page where I try to log what admins and experienced editors are saying and doing with all this new robotics activity, in order to help them understand and reach consensus (and especially, to take the burden off of us...and gods help us, off of the hobbyists...of arguing with the admins one article at a time).  Then we need a separate page that attempts to represent the needs of the typical reader of Wikipedia, which is a perspective which has been completely lacking so far, but I think is very important.  (Obviously that's harder.  I'm thinking of surveys...I am definitely not thinking of some kind of demagoguery like "I speak for the people who won't speak for themselves".) - Dan Dank55 (talk) 00:35, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Melbourne International Airport
Hey, I know you & Student7 have put much good work into the Melbourne International Airport article. I added some pictures into a Gallery & at the infobox. Please have a look when you get a chance & arrange the pictures however you think they work best in the article. I know both you guys have a good eye for arranging articles. Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 00:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * For the record, I did try to set FieldMarine straight on who was responsible for the nice article! In his defense, it can be hard to differentiate between edits after a while. Hard pouring back over the history. Thanks for all your efforts in adding and polishing Brevard articles! Student7 (talk) 01:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:ROBO
OK... so I've began to assess the robotics articles. Please review the article assessment guidelines and help this WikiProject out by helping out with the following:


 * Adding Robotics-related articles to the WikiProject
 * Assessing robotics articles listed in Category:Robotics articles by quality
 * Helping out with giving comments to individual articles after assessment, pointers, comments, etc. (basically, don't just give an article class and move on, let people know what led you to give such a rating when necessary.

We need to get this article assessment drive going first before peer reviews and collaborations programs can be made.

Note: advertising for this WikiProject:


 * Static Banner



If you want to use it for our WikiProject advertisement, simple paste  to use this static banner.


 * Animated Banner

Our ad is now in the Wikipedia Ads circulation. Help promote WikiProject Robotics by displaying this image on your userpage, or to place Wikipedia Ads to your user page, you may add.


 * Display only certain ads: Here's the script to only display certain ads (so you can have people see our Robotics ad more often (or just only display this ad only). Note: WikiProject:Robotics Ad is #116.

Please let me know if you have any questions. <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 10:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Aside from the amusement of you messaging yourself above (-) ), I noticed that you accidentally added about nine user talk pages to the category Robotics articles by quality. It was caused by a missing colon before Category, which I fixed (also using AWB). Glad to see the project getting started! Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 11:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Tuvok. To borrow from Queen Vic, we are not amused, there are a lot of users (like Zenwhat) who tend to copy to both userpages so that the archives aren't a pile of spaghetti.  Jameson, in the static banner, the silver letters on the silvery background might not show up so well for some displays. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 15:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. John Carter (talk) 22:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry!
Sorry, I am new here! I didn't mean to vandalise the page. I will remove the ad promptly! LB22 (talk) 20:35, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Ad
Ad has been deleted! Thanks for bringing it up so quickly! LB22 (talk) 20:38, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

The WikiProject Universities Newsletter: Issue V (January 2008)
The January 2008 issue of the WikiProject Universities newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you for your continued support of WikiProject Universities! &mdash; Noetic  Sage  22:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I noticed the message you recently left to. Please remember to try not to bite the newcomers. If you see someone make a common mistake, try to politely point out what they did wrong and how to correct it. ("Bite" occurred in edit summary.)- CobaltBlueTony™ talk 17:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I generally call edit summaries personal comments, which was why I did that. I consider it disruptive behavior, especially when this user is not a new user.  Please refer to User talk:75.84.238.107, where another run in with this user with similar NPOV issues on Lowell High School (San Francisco) occurred.  Anyways, thanks taking the effort in keeping me in check, but this person is hardly a newbie.  (There's a difference between being a noob not knowing Wikipedia policies and a person who just does not have any regard to any policies whatsoever even though the policies have been made clear.)  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 17:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The current account is very new. The IP user, while first acting on 4 April, 2007, is obviously not very experienced, effectively making the user still new, with a combined total number of edits at a whopping 15!  Presuming the editor will eventually get the hang of it here, he may read the edit summary and be discouraged.  I generally try not to use templates on experienced users except in the case of CSD/AFD/RFD/MFD notifications; I apologize for not being more succinct in my message.  Cheers! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 17:49, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * FYI: I did leave a very polite comment on the user's talk page by the way. :D  Have a great day! <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 17:39, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Pigeon Crap
it's on your userpage. A little to your bottom...right...there! &mdash; B o L 03:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * lol is that supposed to be some kind of "made you look" things? there's nothing on my edit history... LMAO :D <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 03:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really. It was on your userpage, but I found out it was reverted, so never mind. (User:Lchcheng). &mdash; B o L 05:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh! haha yeah I guess that was pigeon crap.  Yeah I +1 my user page vandal count from that.  I never read what that person said, and after reverting, I don't plan on reading old edit histories either... they're too bland...hahaha <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 06:03, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:UBX
Can I ask you to make an ad for WP:UBX? I think you are the best person to consult.LB22 (talk) 20:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but at the moment, I am not on the list of people who make Wikipedia Ads. As stated on our previous discussion on your talk page, you may ask User:Andrew Hampe to create ads.  Please talk to them about getting one of the ads done.  I was merely making ads for WikiProjects I was personally participating in during times when I had free time.  However, thanks for considering me as your go-to guy on this subject, but User:Miranda and User:Gurch have much more experience on this subject than I do.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 06:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Yay
--JayTur1 (Contribs) 17:09, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the recognition & also for your hard work on the Brevard pages. Good luck with becoming an administrator...you deserve it. FieldMarine (talk) 07:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
For your comments and helpful suggestions on my talk page. I wasn't referring to the removal of content as uncivil, but to User:Calton's tone. 76.87.47.110 (talk) 10:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I love this!
I love this image (Image:Qxz-ad116.gif). Maybe you should design my future website! ;) Cheers.  m <font color="#4CBB17">ir <font color="#ADFF2F">a <font color="#4CBB17">nd  a   03:11, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha thank you for your kind words. I doubt my skills can be used to design websites...haha I just make random things to random things... I'm glad you like the ad!  :D  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 03:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Your VandalProof Application
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Jamesontai. As you may know, VP is a very powerful program, and in fact the just released 1.3 version has even more power. Because of this we must uphold strict protocols before approving a new applicant. Regretfully, I have chosen to decline your application at this time. Please note it is nothing personal by any means, and we certainly welcome you to apply again soon. Thank again for your interest in VandalProof. βcommand 16:53, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Jameson, I wouldn't worry about VandalProof right now. The latest version (1.37) has a lot of issues with the changes feed not updating, at least on some users' computers. If I were you, I'd just email Gurch about huggle. Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 17:25, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Sigh... O...K... I thought VandalProof had less strict protocols on approving applications than AWB. I don't see how I got AWB but not VP. Oh well.  Doesn't matter at this point anyways... I'm more focused on assessments for WP:ROBO at the moment anyways... hahaha.  (Oh yeah, thanks Tuvok for that btw.  I'll probably send Gurch a message. :D)  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 17:43, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I will warn you, there are a couple bugs in huggle, too, but they're incredibly trivial, and easily worked around if you know the circumstances in which they occur. One of the buggles (I just made that up tonignt) is that it won't sign comments added with the N button if you use the section heading box. Workaround is to just put the wikicode for the heading in with the comment and specify a manual edit summary in the next prompt. Things like that. Tuvok[T@lk/Improve] 03:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Support for GA/FA from William
(copied from William's userpage)
 * I actually wrote up a proposal along these lines earlier today -- and it's in my sandbox. I wasn't really sure it's what I wanted to propose -- and, even if so, I wasn't sure I like my present, verbose, pompous, overly detailed wording -- so I wasn't ready to release it.  But, since you ask . . . William P. Coleman (talk) 05:17, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * (reply to William, copied to JamesonTai) It's true, if you put some work in, it's possible to get the higher ratings...and if you want to help people in WP:ROBO do that, that's fantastic. I want to say again, in case it wasn't clear...I have only one "passion", and that is that we don't lose newbies that I bring in...for all other issues, goals and people, I don't feel passionate, we can do whatever you guys like, and I'll help.  I think Jameson is wondering if I'm going to screw things up by trying to keep things so simple and transparent for my newbies...but an easy fix would just be not to direct my newbies to the front page, to give them a link of their own in the project.  I don't think the link should say "newbies", because of course they'll be oldbies before long, I think it just depends what they want to work on...I'll ask around! - Dan Dank55 (talk) 02:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Home robotics project?
You're welcome to do anything you like with the robotics project. I didn't know you felt the way you did, and I won't give you any trouble. Do you mind if I keep my focus on home robotics and develop a project with just that scope? - Dan Dank55 (talk) 17:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Dan, no hard feelings, but I wanted to apologize about the strong words I wrote yesterday. It's easy to combine the frustrations in life, combined with the little annoyances here and there, and channel it into what you do online.  Would you like to establish a task force instead?  It'd run under WP:ROBO, but you'll be able to run the task force as needed (unless there's a need for someone to step in or something...).  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 17:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with working together, as long as you promise that next time you want to accuse me of the things you did, you don't choose to do it in front of the entire community of WP:AN before mentioning it to me first, okay? I didn't understand half the stuff you were saying, we might have been able to work it out.  There was another reason I was thinking of doing 2 different wikiprojects (and we could participate in each other's projects, of course)...people here who are interested in robotics per se are completely different people from the people who don't like the idea of home automation, but are looking to deal with it.  That's a whole different set of issues.  Did you know that the U.S. government uses your cell phone's 911-GPS capability to log your coordinates...just in case you turn out to be a terrorist?  Every time some new bit of automation makes it into the home, even something as simple as a cell phone, people find that it doesn't work like it should, and businesses or governments are using them for their own purposes and not telling you.  It might make both our lives easier if you can tell people (like Zenwhat...except that he's been blocked) "Hey, you're in the wrong place, I've moved your stuff over to the 'Home automation and privacy' wikiproject", and I could send people who are getting too technical for my audience over your way.  We don't have to do it that way, but do you agree that we're really talking about two very different groups of people here we might have to deal with? I guess I should add, I've been in the ACLU for 25 years, and my partner is on the national board, and we have a very good idea what the "privacy" people sound like and what they're looking for.  And I've been a blogger (in robotics communities, not on my own blog...although I have just decided to start one!) also.  And I know that these two different sets of people don't speak the same language.  Sometimes they don't live in the same world, and it might be a good idea not to force them together. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 18:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Also...you do a great job, and please keep it up. I know you'll have more time after school's out. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 20:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Round 6 of University Collaborations of the Fortnight has begun
Enjoy! <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 05:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

WP ads
I am not sure if someone else had asked you this before, but I will ask you about this anyway. I was wandering around WP, when I saw a couple of WPAds that you made, like this one. I could not help but to wonder what kind of software you used to create these gif pieces of art? :) I am planning to do one myself, so I came here because other ads seem inferior to yours! :) <font size="2.5" color="blue">&Lambda;ua&int; Wi  se  (Operibus anteire) 14:43, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been using Macromedia Flash 5, which came out... 2001-ish? It's really a very old piece of software, it's just so old that it makes everything nice with a couple of very simple clicks.  :D  I'm actually trying to see if Adobe Fireworks CS3 (Macromedia got bought out by Adobe) will make decent animations.  I'm pretty sure the other ads aren't really inferior, they've just been made so that the Ad wouldn't be too "flashy".  Anyways, let me know if you need a couple of pointers in case you get stuck, but haha I can't guarantee I'll be able to answer your question.  The ads I've been making have been a hit or miss kind of deal.  Just remember to make the ads to conform to the Template:Wikipedia ads guidelines.  :D  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 21:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks :D. I will actually buy Flash CS3 today, kindda expensive though. I hope it has a user-friendly interface, because I quite honestly never worked with flash before. I used to get each indivdual frame and "glue'em" together in a GIF format..... Thanks again!
 * <font size="2.5" color="blue">&Lambda;ua&int; Wi  se  (Operibus anteire) 13:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * "Create Motion Tween" is your friend. :D  Good luck!  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 17:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh man! Thanks so much "my" dude!! :)
 * This was exactly what I needed!! It really was, I am going to "eat" every word of it...
 * D
 * <font size="2.5" color="blue">&Lambda;ua&int; Wi  se  (Operibus anteire) 17:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:
Hmm, let me see if I got this right, you want to export png or other non-vector graphics into a vector editor like illustrator or Inkscape? If this was the case, I would recommend saving them as bitmaps (bmp), I have found that to be universally acceptable among almost all vector graphics editors.If illustrator keeps crashing, why do not you use Inkscape. Trust me on that one, I had illustrator CS3, but rarely used it... Inkscape can do so much better... I am not sure if I have answered the question..... <font size="2.5" color="blue">&Lambda;ua&int; Wi  se  (Operibus anteire) 17:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Owh, I get it, you mean like getting an SVG out of a non-vector with one step... kindda like conversion, sorry, but most of the times, it aint possible bro. I usually do my SVG by using Bitmap tracing. To see what I mean, go to WP:GL, and see images to improve. Most of the SVGifiying thing is done manually, check some examples there. This is as far as I can help. You can ask some advanced users at WP:GL

<font size="2.5" color="blue">&Lambda;ua&int; Wi  se  (Operibus anteire) 17:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Robotics
[copied from my talk page] I'm going to leave wikiproject robotics. It's not a problem with Jameson, it's just that the wikiproject doesn't do what I hoped...I wanted to iron some things out in a general discussion rather than individually in each article, but I don't think it's going to happen, and judging from the histories in the articles I patrol, the issues tend to be different from article to article anyway. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 15:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * So should I bring down the Home robotics task force then? <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 16:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I already deleted the link. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 16:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Jameson, the WikiProject Robotics tag on the vacuum cleaners and lawn mowers could be a good thing or a bad thing...if you take an interest, or if someone else joins your wikiproject and takes an interest, it's a good thing, but otherwise, it may discourage people out of a sense of ownership. And...vacuum cleaners and lawnmowers aren't usually perceived as robots, even if they are automatic.  Do you mind if I remove your tags on these articles? - Dan Dank55 (talk) 16:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Dan, I'm taking a slight personal interest in the robotic vacuums and lawnmowers because I'm doing research for my university's AutoMow team. The reason I tagged them was because they were listed as articles directly under the Robotics Portal's list of categories.  I'd leave the article tags be for now because as minor as these "inferior"-so to speak- robots may be, they technically do fit in under the standard definition of a robot.  If you still have objections, feel free to voice your opinions.  :-)  (I thought you left the WikiProject, did you join a related project or something?)  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 02:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

More mainspace
I noticed from your contributions that you are still doing lots of meta-wiki stuff (tagging, notices, talk) but not much in terms of new articles. Is there anything at WP:RA that may interest you? Bearian&#39;sBooties (talk) 02:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been quite a meta person in general since I started editing, except for improving MoS and formatting articles that already exist in order for them to flow better. I'll definitely take a look at WP:RA in a little bit (I got a test in Design of Machine Elements tomorrow I've got to study for tonight - hurray for procrastination :D).  Thanks for extending the offer!  Happy editing! :D  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 02:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Jameson, I just don't understand why my page on Anantara Solutions gets deleted with a message that it is ballant advertising. But i see pages on other companies on wikipedia. I am able to see complete profile of their companies in wikipedia under the catagory"Software companies of india".
 * Joseph

Dank55 wrote:


 * Jameson, why not keep the few hundred articles you've tagged for your wikiproject, and let me work on the few articles I care about without having to explain to people why the article does or doesn't belong to wikiproject robotics, and is or isn't "low" priority? It just muddies the water...and you've got your hands more than full already with the stuff you've tagged. If you'd rather we talk about this on talk pages instead of email, I'm fine with that, I thought you might prefer email.


 * Before you tagged the lawnmowers and vacuums, I wasn't thinking a separate project would be necessary, but I can go that way if I need to.


 * Dan

Dan,
 * -Yes, I'd prefer to continue this conversation on Wiki talk pages.


 * I didn't know you had personal interests in those articles.
 * I didn't know there were boundaries of what I can work with.
 * The project banner is not supposed to mark territory. It only means those who belong in the project should focus on this article.
 * There's nothing wrong with tagging existing articles that fit current project scope.
 * I really hope we're not getting territorial.

A copy of this conversation (I'll leave your email addy out of it, don't worry) is now on my talk page. Please continue the discussion there.

J (Copied to talk page). <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 03:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * (copied at my page) I have edited Robot, AGV, and some of the articles about vacuums and lawnmowers...not much more than that, related to robotics. You've tagged several hundred articles as belonging to your wikiproject, without editing any of them, at least not the ones I'm watching, which is most of them.  I'm not criticizing you...I think it's possible that tagging a bunch of articles could be helpful, it might get more people to sign up for WikiProject Robotics and share experiences first, and then edit.  On the other hand, it might mean that people who would otherwise edit won't edit, out of a sense that the article belongs to some other group, or they might misunderstand the "low" priority.  I haven't been around long enough to know what works and what doesn't, I guess we'll see.  I will look around for some other kind of tag to stick on the articles I'm interested in, and if someone tells me that the two tags are confusing, I'll pass the information on. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 04:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * In my personal experience, it really does not make much difference. Tagging an article with a project banner merely represents that the WikiProject does look at what happens to the article.  (Although I haven't been editing the articles, I wanted to get the project started first... you know... get the infrastructure down first)  I tried to establish relationships with editors in WP:UNI when I first started before editing/tagging, but from my experiences with them (not that they're bad at all... they're really nice people), I don't believe that a project banner represents "marked territory" and I believe that establishing our scope, what we represent, and what we want to do clearly that we will attract appropriate editors in the future (hopefully, near future) to join and help us out with improving the articles.


 * Dan, I think you and I both know that the broad range of article coverage in this project has prompted us to realize that we cannot "standardize" all robotics articles in one manner since we have products, BLPs, companies, robots, research techniques, and other misc article formats that would be futile in establishing a standard. With this said, I believe I did establish in the original article assessment/guidelines (before the numerous updates/replacements) that this WikiProject will work on updating information, but the article structure and initial quality guidelines should comply with the primary associated wikiproject (i.e.: roboticist article should conform to wp:blp, companies should conform to wp:org, etc., respectively.


 * With this said, I think it is unfair to say that I alone represent WP:ROBO and then assume that since I am tagging these articles, that I and I alone should be improving every single article I come across and tag. I really hope that you can stop taking things so personally.  These tags are designed to signify that the article belongs to the general robotics category and people are looking at them.  When we have enough editors to do major revamps, we will do them (most likely in the order of its importance rating) one by one.  Until then, please revisit the objectives of the article classifications, wikiproject establishment, and existence before you confuse yourself and myself further with random misunderstandings.


 * Lastly, I wanted to let you know I'll be unavailable until tomorrow, as I am studying for a Design of Machine Elements test tomorrow morning. Feel free to just continue leaving messages here and I'll get to them when I get a chance.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 05:12, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I wasn't taking it personally ... on the contrary, I said that I wasn't criticizing you, and supported that conclusion. I said that you had a lot on your plate already and expanding into new areas before you (or anyone from Wikiproject Robotics) had started to work on the articles already tagged might or might not turn out to be a good idea ... but that's your call.  I'm more concerned about an argument we've had several times before...as you know, it just doesn't feel right to me to slap a label of "low priority" at the top of the talk page of an article that someone might have worked very hard on, unless we have reason to believe they won't take it the wrong way, despite your position that it's only a label to help Wikiproject Robotics people prioritize.  Today, you stuck a wikiproject robotics tag, in every case with "low priority", on the following list: RooTooth, Ubiquitous robot, Category:Domestic robots, Robomaxx‎; Category:Robotic Floorvac‎; Electrolux Trilobite‎; Roomba‎; Home automation‎; Category:Home automation‎; Category:Robotics at Kawasaki‎;  Category:Robotics companies‎;  Talk:Honda P series‎; Talk:Honda E1‎; Talk:Honda E0; Category:Robotics at Honda‎;  KUKA‎.  I think this problem can be fixed by sticking a second tag on the home-automation-related articles and cats with a higher priority, so people don't get the wrong idea.  And as a matter of fact, home-automation-related articles and categories are of a higher priority to me and to people I talk to regularly, and I'm putting some ideas together for a new project or sub-project.  - Dan Dank55 (talk) 07:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) Dan, you do realize that when I created the first version of the Project Banner (before John Carter help redesign the entire thing) I had an option to add a task force designation onto the banner. I'm sure we can work something out on some degree on this. Let's make something clear. Any disputes we may have had were settled, days ago. If you still feel personally about the prioritization of articles (specifically, articles like home automation receiving low priority) - know this. I remember you and I had a lot to do with the drafting of the assessment policy. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be reassessing the articles as I begin to see the broad picture of the entire spectrum that we're dealing here. If you have problems with specific ratings, I'm sure you can reassess some of them if you want to. Look, what I'm saying here is, it seems like you're still interested in the entire robotics project's operations even though you've told me (twice now) that you want to be hands-off on the robotics project. I won't tell you to make up your mind, as I can always use fresh pairs of eyes (and that it's really harsh), but I would say for someone who's left this project twice, it seems you can't let this thing go yet. <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 10:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Jameson, I just don't understand why my page on Anantara Solutions gets deleted with a message that it is ballant advertising. But i see pages on other companies on wikipedia. I am able to see complete profile of their companies in wikipedia under the catagory"Software companies of india".
 * Joseph —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephthomas81 (talk • contribs) 13:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't say it was blatant advertising. I said it was recreation of previously deleted materials.  You may find the person who claims that it is blatant advertising elsewhere, but it was not I.  Good day.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 13:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching request
You have previously expressed an interest in undergoing the Admin coaching program. We're currently engaged in a program reset to help things move more smoothly in the future. If you are still interested in the program, please go to Admin coaching/Requests for Coaching and re-list yourself under Current requests, deleting your entry from Older requests. Also, double-check to make sure coaching is right for you at theCoachee checklist; WP:Adoption or WP:Editor review may be more appropriate depending on your situation and aspirations. We should get back to you within a day or so, once a coaching relationship has been identified. Thank you.  MBisanz  talk 06:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching match
Hello, I am pleased to announce that you have been paired with User:James086 (James Squared :) ) as an admin coachee. You now have two important tasks to complete:
 * 1. Introduce yourself to James086 and explain to them why you want to be an admin.
 * 2. Once he has confirmed the relationship to you, edit Admin coaching/Requests for Coaching to move your name to Admin coaching/Status to record the match.

Given the limited coaching resources of the Admin Coaching project, if you plan to take a Wikibreak of more than 30 days, please notify your coach or myself so that we will know not to tag you as retired and give your spot to another user. Remember that adminship is not a big deal and that it may take multiple RfAs before one becomes a sysop, even for a highly qualified, coached, editor. Also, remember that while admin coaching will help you prepare for the mop, there is no guarantee that completing this program will ensure passage of an RfA.

Congratulations again, and happy editing.  MBisanz  talk 08:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching
Sounds good! I'm currently studying mechanical engineering too, albeit at a different university. I can definitely help with CSD, article starting (even though that's not really necessary for administrative tools) and blocking as you mentioned in your RFA, however I use ZoneAlarm so I know virtually nothing about TWINKLE or FRIENDLY (ZoneAlarm blocks it). If you have any specific questions ask away, alternatively I could explain a policy the way I understand it and later I'll find some AFD's that are ready to be closed and copy them to the userspace so you can practice. I will now write up my thoughts on the Criteria for Speedy Deletion in a user subpage: User:James086/CSD. Oh yeah, I currently have no other coachees, you must have looked across and seen someone else's coaching capacity, no worries though. Again if you have any questions feel free to ask! James086 Talk &#124; Email 12:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

East Carolina University
Greetings. I am lobbying to promote East Carolina University to the COTF. A few editors can help and get it over the FAC hump. If you have any comments, please respond on my talkpage. Thanks,  P G  Pirate  00:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Lobbying? lol I don't support lobbyists... but sure I'll take a look at it over the weekend. <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 02:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Bad choice of words:). But it is close, I believe, to becoming a WP:FA. The article just needs new eyes to look over it.  I believe the biggest thing it needs is an expanded lede. Thanks,  P  G  Pirate  14:33, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Replies
Yikes! I'm often busy with work and uni so I couldn't reply yesterday. I think what you're trying to say is that changing the template on hundreds of articles isn't necessary because the template is good for the vast majority? The first thing to check to make sure you have a civil comment is what is it addressing. Target the proposal/point raised, not the editor who is making the comment. I wouldn't say that comment alone is incivil, but it isn't going to make you any friends. The 2 things I would remove are the comment about the "original nominator" and the "No offense or anything." at the end. Quite often when that is said it is not sincere and in this text based medium, emotion is very hard to convey (tone of voice, facial expressions are missing) so it will likely cause offence even though it's not intended. I would reword the later sentence:


 * The current system has made adaptations to accommodate a majority of university articles on Wikipedia. Main argument at the moment revolves around few articles with specific needs that can be solved with simple line breaks . Although pointing out weaknesses in wiki templates is encouraged to provide better revisions of current standards, I don't think this particular string of edits will be constructive to the WikiProject. Making changes that affect the thousands of articles this WikiProject covers based on the needs of very few articles is not in our best interests.

Also how would you like to discuss things? By default I reply across 2 talk pages (so that the orange bar appears) but some people prefer to keep the discussion on 1 page (like you replying on this page). I'm indifferent really cause I check my watchlist so do you have any preference?

Finally the CSD thing; I'll do some more tonight. G4 doesn't apply to speedy deletions, PROD or things undeleted with deletion review but some criterion would probably apply if it has been speedied before. If the title is bad, you could move the page if it's an article worth keeping or if not, delete it through the relevant method depending on what's wrong with it. James086 Talk &#124; Email 08:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Extraphone
I find that putting by you the tag "speedy deletion" on this article is rather strange. I have not seen any comment or justification from your part on the discussion page and the automaticly prepared explications in the tag do not explain anything relevant to the article itself. I saw you amuse yourself by putting these tags with a speed of a certain number almost per minute in numerous articles. I am afraid you are simply abusing of the right to put such tags.--Rubikonchik (talk) 16:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Rubikonchik
 * I have been doing CSD for several months now. Please WP:AGF on these nominations. I found your article to have questionable content as it stood during the time I nominated it for deletion.   If you have further questions, please refer to the wp:csd categories, and re oread whet I have posted on top of my talk page. Have a good day.<font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 20:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I am sorry, you do not answer my questions, nor did you explain anything on the talk page or anywhere at all. Putting simply a tag does not mean automatically that what's written in it is relevant to the contents of the article (it spoke of importance of personalities, whereas the article is simply of one of the biggest record labels in Russia and former Soviet Union (1/6th of Earth for your information)). Secondly, referring me to the plain rules for the second time is simply not polite. I find such behaviour of yours as nuisance to Wikipedia and ask you to bring back the article, moreover, feel free to operate necessary changes (if any there are) in it in order wikify it, since you know the Wikipedia rules so well. In the case where you do not bring back the article, please inform me how and where can I complain and appeal of your behaviour. Thank you very much in advance.--Rubikonchik (talk) 13:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)Rubikonchik
 * As you have not read the top of the page, I did not delete your article. Only nominated it for deletion.  You may check the deletion logs for information.  I do not hold any responsibility for the information for deleted articles, nor do I need to help you resurrect your article.  I nominated your article for speedy deletion, you placed a  tag, and I responded by answering you on the talk page.  As far as I'm concerned, I have followed Wikipedia policies to the letter.  If you believe otherwise, I suggest you first study the guidelines here on Wikipedia before you proceed any further.  Have a good day.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 17:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I can agree w/ speedy deletion
Jasonmicron (talk) 07:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC) I just wanted to say that I can agree with your reasoning for the speedy deletion of the /DJ_Micron article. I will try to observe the wiki guidelines more in the future. Thanks for the tips! If I lived in the UK I'd have to take you out for a pint! :p

Flopopeeps
You recently put the article Flopopeeps up for deletion. Please allow me a week or two to properly show the significance of my group. Please do not delete my article. Thank you. Flopopeeps (talk) 22:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I cannot help you. Please read what I wrote on top of my talk page before you continue.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 01:57, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

My edits to The Black Parade World Tour dates
Just wanted to explain myself, I ment to redirect the page to The Black Parade World Tour and I guess I screwed up and got distracted with before I noticed. Anyway, the redirect's done. – Zntrip 05:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That's fine. As long as the redirect is complete.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 05:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Tagging of Darrell Ible
Hi Jameson,

I have tried to make the article Darrell Ible more notable and relevant. If you could give me advice to make it even moreso, I would appreciate it greatly!

Thanks, Roy.

4/3/08 Royboyb (talk) 11:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Article has been deleted. I cannot resurrect the article.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 18:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Signature
Please reduce the size of your signature to the same size as all other text on Wikipedia. John Reaves 04:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * My signature is already the same size as standard text on Wikipedia. However, I believe that you're referring to is the superscripting of the talk and contribs links, which I cannot shrink.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 17:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it isn't the same size as standard text on wikipedia. The deliberate insertion of <tt>size="4px"</tt> makes it much larger than standard text on wikipedia.  Get rid of the size setting. Quale (talk) 18:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not violating any policies on Wikipedia at the moment, and my font size on my signature is not disruptive to general discussions. Unless I'm wrong (in which I'd then be happily take a look on shrinking the font a little bit) but I don't see why I need to "[get] rid of the size setting."  And frankly, I find your random note in addition to your attitude to be quite rude.  Please WP:AGF on these issues and remember to not make a WP:POINT.  (Did I mention WP:IAR?)  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 23:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What does any of that have to do with anything? You claimed your signature font size is the same as the regular size of text on wikipedia.  You were wrong.  I did assume good faith, because I assumed that you were mistaken rather than deliberately lying. I would have thought that you would like to know that you were mistaken about that, but apparently you are not.  That doesn't surprise me, since it fits the expectations I have of someone who would increase the font size of his signature.  Quale (talk) 02:58, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Snobish attitude will not change anything. Attitude is everything.  A "please" somewhere in "Get rid of the size setting" would have been nice.  My signature is not disruptive and I'm not doing anything wrong.  Stop targeting users.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 04:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * With you being nice won't change anything either, since someone else requested that you not use an oversized signature on your talk page back in January. The request was nice, your response a little less so.  Just above John Reaves said please and you responded to him with a blatant falsehood.  I'm the third person to ask (bluntly, this time) and your response to me was basically incoherent.  I suspect there will be others making the same request in the future.  Quale (talk) 05:24, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope the next request, if there are any, will be from someone with manners. Have a good day.  <font face="Calibri" size="4px" color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai  <font face="Calibri" color="#660000">talk ♦ contribs 05:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Dear Jameson, I believe I've worked out where the misunderstanding is occurring here. Your signature specifies the use of the Calibri font, which many users do not have installed on their system. Their browsers therefore substitute another font, most likely Arial, which appears bigger at a given font size. In addition, the tag is now deprecated and browser support differs – the original spec allowed only e.g. size="4" not size="4px" (px are used in CSS) and some browsers interpret the latter as the former, giving a much larger size than you intended. In Internet Explorer 7 without Calibri installed your name appears larger than a ===subsection heading===, with the use of italics giving it greater emphasis still. I hope you can now appreciate the problem and might be willing to change your signature. Unless you can check how your sig appears on different systems, I'd advise against use of the tag at all. Regards, Qwfp (talk) 14:38, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * User:Qwfp, thank you for clarifying this for me. I actually tested my signature on over ten systems running Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows 2003, Windows Vista, even the beta version of Windows Server 2008.  I also tested my signature on an Ubuntu machine, but all but one of these systems did have Calibri installed on to the system already, except one - and it ran OK on Firefox.  I did manage to test it on IE7 on an old computer in a cybercafe and it looks like you're correct.  I have removed the Calibri font (restored to Arial) as well as the font size.  However, the font color is still there using  .  Does XHTML 2.0 or wikicode have a revised version of this I can use instead?  Thanks.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  17:11, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * To be quite honest, I'm not sure if there's a non -based way of changing the colour, but not as far as I'm aware – I think the principle is that it should be done in in CSS, but that's not available in a sig. But in any case, that's completely fixed the size problem, many thanks. Your sig still appears the same colour as it was to me (dark blue), while it's not going cause a problem even if the color info isn't understood by some browser as it'll just be ignored. WinXP and IE w/o Calibri is still a very common set-up (esp. on business PCs i think) so you may find you're rubbing fewer people up the wrong way in future – unfortunately the big sig did rather give the impression of a big ego, and clicking on it did little to dispel that impression! Glad to have helped, Qwfp (talk) 17:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * hahaha Yup, I'm revising my userpage too. I had help designing it when I first started using Wikipedia by another editor, and I've only been adding more and more information to it.  I'm thinking about shrinking everything and removing the VP infoboxes for good measure.  I'm working a couple of signature revisions with a couple new colors (I'm kind of sick of #000066) on User:Jamesontai/Sandbox16.  Feel free to comment on that talk page if you see anything that should be edited.  :)  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  17:45, 9 March 2008 (UTC)