User talk:Jamesontai/Archive 5

Wikistalking
So the foundation email is info@wikimedia.org. They likely get way more email then is fair so you may want to confirm with those security people what exactly they need to help see the issue more clearly. You might also first send them, a link to the admin thread where Julie and his/her socks were blocked by the community. Let me know if you need more support - wikistalking is wrong. Banj e b oi   00:41, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I have sent the Office of Security information regarding the matter. I hope it clears things up a bit.  However, as I've been told by several admins and users on IRC, ArbCom most like will reject the request, so I hope my efforts @ clearing it up myself will work out for the best.  If not, I might just ask an admin who understands this situation to call the Office of Security.  At this point, I won't know the extent of the damage caused by the email, but I've got to say, this is one hell of a way to start off a school year on Monday.   - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  06:42, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries, let me now if you need support and I'll do what I can. Banj e  b oi   22:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your support. I'll keep you posted of any updates.   - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  04:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * cool... finally...  - Jameson L. Tai   talk ♦  contribs  07:42, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Userspace YouTube links
Thank You for reviewing these :) If you can find some other sane admins to also look over them it would be much appreciated :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:41, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Not a problem! :D I'll try, but sane admins are sometimes are to come by these days! haha  - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  22:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Callum shales
Please don't use db-blanked on pages unless you were the author of the only substantial content, as you did on Callum shales. Thank you. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 19:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You know, I have no way of knowing now whether the author really blanked the page himself or not, so I don't know how to respond to you. I know what db-blanked means and I was under the assumption that the page was blanked by the author after the CSD tag was placed.   - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  19:39, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The editing log seems to show that you blanked it and then tagged it with db-blanked. It's not a big deal either way - I speedily deleted it for notability problems.  --Philosopher Let us reason together. 20:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Please review the logs again. I think the previous diffs show that all I did was tag the article with a notability tag or some other article-issues tag.  However, when the page refreshed, I saw that the content was blanked and the only thing remaining was the old CSD tag and my article-issues tag.  Therefore, (I believe I checked the history for this) I tagged with WP:CSD because it looked like the author blanked the article after the page got on CSD.  I'm not too sure since I was in class when I did this, and I've already gone through three classes since I tagged this.  Anyways, have a great day!   - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  21:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Reverting
Hi. Just thought you should know that here you reverted and warned an anonymous user for removing a single line-break from an article. Thanks -- Gurch (talk) 22:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, if you read closely, the anon IP changed "Colt" to "Cool". Have a great day!  - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  22:39, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, so they did. Never mind -- Gurch (talk) 22:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yup! :D Have a great day! :D   - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  22:53, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

AWB
Huh? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 04:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You wanted me to take out the |Chart position = lines out of the 6300+ articles remember?  I tried to automate it through AWB, but I couldn't... -_- I give up.  I'll try again tomorrow.   - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  04:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Anomalistics reversion
Thank you for your message alerting me to your reversion of my edits at Anomalistics. Unfortunately, as you did not include a descriptive edit summary, I am in the dark as to why you made the reversion. Please let me know about any specific problems with my edits so that I can work on improving the article. Thank you, Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 16:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Your edits were supposed to be skipped. The edit from HG has been reverted.  - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  17:06, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 17:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Not a problem, I'm not sure why it did that, but have a great day!  - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  18:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Rosstoph and King Ed's TV
Hey. You probably remember me. Are you letting me keep my account, with editing privelages as well? After all I did on my page? 'cause if you are, then I just wanna say thanks, and that I'm sorry for the way I acted. I just got quite angry 'cause this is supposed to be a free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, but you guys always seem to try and delete everything. But I guess I was still wrong to do everything I did. So thanks. A lot.
 * Rosstoph (talk) 15:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No one has blocked you yet. Please do not sabotage your own article again. - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  15:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: User talk:206.126.163.20
Can I please be told what was wrong with, exactly? The Sohnen are mentioned explicitly in X3's plot as being some ancient race, an individual of which (or at least one who appears to be a member of said race) is actually an or the primary antagonist in the game. Basically, all I did was revert my previous removal of this material, and reworded it slightly.

Really, considering this a content matter, it's not really something I should have been uw-test'd over either. Please be a little more conservative with those templates, they scare newbies. 206.126.163.20 (talk) 00:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * HG should have skipped it instead of reverted it. It's been going on quite a bit the past week or so.  I submitted an inquiry on IRC btw.  I'll revert your uw temp in a sec.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  00:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weird. Be careful with semi-automated tools :P 206.126.163.20 (talk) 00:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Meh, usually HG doesn't screw this this bad, but I've been keeping a close check of what the program's actually doing vs what key I pressed. It's getting to the point where I would rather use VandalProof instead.  Btw, why are you not logging in to edit?  You seem to be quite knowledgeable on this stuff.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  00:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't trust the stations here. And since my primary account has admin access, I don't particularly want someone getting a hold of that and breaking things. I personally just use some of Voice of All's scripts and Firefox, but I haven't done much vandal fighting (or much of anything) recently. 206.126.163.20 (talk) 00:24, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll probably switch after the inquiry.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  00:45, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

The Science of Getting Rich Obliterated by Redirection - Why?
While i was working on the page for a book from 1910 titles The Science of Getting Rich, i found that you had reverted it to a redirect page. Please explain why you did this. Your only stated reason in the editorial comments field was that you did it, not why.

Because you did not state why you, in effect, deleted my good faith writing and sourcing, i am restoring the page again and will be continuing to work on improving the article for the rest of this evening. Please let me do so and do not hinder my work.

Thank you for assuming good faith and abiding by the principles of Wikipedia.

Cordially,

catherine yronwode a.k.a. User:Catherineyronwode editing unlogged-in as "64" 64.142.90.33 (talk) 00:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Please log in before you make any further edits.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  08:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I was reverting as per another user's revert earlier with comment (Rvt: unsourced & does not establish notability per wP:BK). If you have further questions, please review the article's history.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  08:11, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Citect AfD
I think I've fixed the Citect article. Care to review the AfD? WikiScrubber (talk) 08:21, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Commented.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  15:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:ROBO topic save for later

 * User:MindstormsKid/Power Puzzle.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  06:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Fitchburg State College
Hi, thank you for taking a look at Fitchburg State College. I will work on all your suggestions for the article. I realize that it needs a massive reorginization. Thanks again!--Found5dollar (talk) 13:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Great! I see that you've started reorganizing the article.  Please let me know if you need help merging the sections or if you just don't know where to start.  I've done few of these university articles already.  I just hope I don't chop off something that's notable.  Anyways, if you need help, don't be shy to ask.  Have a great day!   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  18:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * if you want to help i would be more than glad to let you, espicaly since you can take a look at the article with an unbiased eye unlike me. any editing you want to do i am absolutly fine with... it leaves less for me to do. hehehe.--Found5dollar (talk) 19:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Please explain
Could you please explain why you reverted my edit to the article about the Icelandic language? Did you check the version you reverted to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.21.122.105 (talk) 21:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * According to this there are no changes between edits. Please verify your own edits.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  21:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * And according to this your revert replaced a perfectly good article about the Icelandic language with an article about cathedrals. I have nothing against cathedrals per se, but I don't see why they should be in the article called "Icelandic language". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.21.122.105 (talk) 21:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The edits I have made only revert to an previous working edition of the article. If you would like to discuss this further, please sign in so I may properly address your concern.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  22:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, the revert you made immediately after my last edit and the last revert you carried out in the article called "Icelandic language" both transformed a perfectly useful article about the Icelandic language into a list of cathedrals, having absolutely nothing to do with Icelandic or any other language. If you have any rational explanation to why you reverted the article several times into something that has nothing to do with the name of the article I would be delighted to hear it, and I think asking me to create an account and logging in is quite preposterous - who I am has nothing to do with how you use (or abuse) your rollback rights. 90.44.131.106 (talk) 21:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC) (yes, it's still me, but evidently the hotel gives me a new IP address every time I connect)

This seems to have stemmed from an error by RussBot (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Icelandic_language&diff=next&oldid=232488088), which the above IP editor corrected, ClueBot uncorrected, the IP editor re-corrected, and you re-uncorrected. Found5dollar has corrected it again, and I have contacted the creator of RussBot for an explanation. <font color="#285991">--Dynaflow  <font color="#285991">babble  23:10, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well thanks for the explanation, I was kind of confused as to what it was doing.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  23:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

List spacing fix
I'm still not sure why exactly, but typing any kind of filler text into the interests box forces the columns to their max width, fixing the issue. I'll do the page update and polling tomorrow, because I'm not sure my brain is firing on all cylinders either. -Optigan13 (talk) 07:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I hope you figured it out. The template I was messing with is still on my Sandbox page (User:Jamesontai/Sandbox19).  Let me know if you need more help.  Sorry... I've been really busy the past couple of days.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  20:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

If interested
Hey! I hope this isn't a bother; I've come to respect your opinion on university-related matters here. I've set up some templates for Talk:Southern Nazarene University and posted info at Proposed_mergers to see if I can generate any discussion on whether or not we should have separate articles for SNU history, athletics, buildings, awards, etc. I'd cast my vote with the idea that, if well-crafted, the content can all be included in the main article, but I don't feel as if one man's opinion matters quite enough to start creating and destroying willy-nilly (or if my philosophy is even reasonable). Let me know what you think, if you have the time or an interest in doing so. Aepoutre (talk) 15:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I've been really busy the past couple of days. I'll try to take a look later tonight.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  20:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * YAY! :D  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  22:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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Again, hi! Optigan13 (talk) 00:50, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * HI! :D hahahahah  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  00:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I could have pulled some more nuanced thing or just a quick ping that it was done, but I was just lazy and added you to the AWB list. For the bay area I got one wtf I just joined message. I tried to pull back this time around, but I'm sure somebody is going to be a bit thrown. -Optigan13 (talk) 01:06, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Blame it on the automated tools... lolz  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  05:08, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Cluster analysis
Hi Jameson - hope the semester is going well. It looks like our old friend is back: Talk:Cluster analysis - thought you'd like to know. --Jiuguang (talk) 23:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Great.... I'm thrilled.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  05:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

New Section
I am new to Wikipedia so forgive me if I followed protocol incorrectly. Still learning. I am writing in regards to the speedy deletion of the Alan Fine page. I have read the criteria for speedy deletion. I believe Mr. Fine meets the critieria of notority because my research found that over 15,000 people are trained a year with his coaching process. Also, he is one of the contributors to the GROW model of coaching which is widely used in the United States and Europe. I was trained in this process and became interested in the history. Initially I could find very little information on Mr. Fine so began more in-depth research. That is what led me to post this page. Thanks for your patience and I'll watch for your reply. Sherriec (talk) 18:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)Sherriec 11:59, 12 September 2008


 * Please review Wikipedia policies and guidelines before recreating that article. Thanks.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  20:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Wow... Thanks for the compliment! :D  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  00:51, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

admin
Hey. I've seen you around, and believe that you would be a great candidate for adminship. If you're interested, I'll nominate you over at WP:RFA. Let me know of your decision. Wizardman 03:54, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * While you were away, Kurykh just nominated me... weird how things turn out. :D  Thanks for your kind words!   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  07:49, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * By it being transcluded already, I can't co-nom it, though I'll support it shortly. Wizardman  17:21, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * eeeeek sorry I missed that part on the instructions last night at 4... lol  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  17:22, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA
Best wishes for your RFA .Have a gr8 day.. Thanks -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 17:08, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you! :) Hope you have a great Sunday too! :D   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  17:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

RFA
Best wishes on your rfa i did leave you a question on it so when you have a chance please review it.

Thanks

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 * I'll get right on it! Thanks for the question.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  22:45, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey just to let you know i changed from neutral to strong support on your rfa again good luck and the best of luck.

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 * w00t! Thank you for your vote! I really appreciate it.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  23:08, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Fun things
Like this...just lovely. Something to take the stress off of RfA, I guess. --Jiuguang (talk) 13:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, now we have a name - Patrick Eberhart. I'm sure it will be useful in future discussions.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  13:38, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

re:Admin coaching
Hey, sorry for disappearing. I have been very busy with uni and work for the past few months. My activity on Wikipedia has taken a turn for the worse as a result :( Your RfA isn't looking too healthy at this point but I don't find the reasons for opposition to be as strong as I would expect to be needed to stop a candidate passing. Perhaps RfA has become even more stringent since I last looked. Anyway, good luck, I think you would make a fine administrator. James086 Talk &#124;  Email 15:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's ok, I kind of expected this, so I'll just let this process run. :D   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  16:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:Abuse reports
I checked the official policies and found WP:Abuse reports. I've delivered a final warning here. Let me know if you see any further 71.100.*.* sightings. We need to take care of this, permanently, because the constant reverts are getting very annoying. --Jiuguang (talk) 17:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What? You mean you weren't having an absolute ball when he was spread the lies?  I did.  :D  No when you're ready to report to Verizon, be sure to have an admin back you.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  23:18, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

University is horrible
Hey bud at uni wanted to say hello dont have my laptop or internet connection to use freenode this is absolutely crappy. Hope you are doing well. Your Pal, Danger^Mouse (talk) 04:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Cool! Wow... it seems like you're having a tough time with connection problems.  Hope you can sort it out in time.  :D   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  04:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA
Looks like it a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, too bad, you're a great editor. &mdash; §unday  { Q } 23:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, I kinda knew it would turn out that way. But I'm just leaving it up because I might as well get some constructive criticisms while I'm at it, although I have been seeing a lot of pile-on voting... too bad.  Thanks for thinking of me.  :-)  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  23:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

New Messages
←Signed:→<font color="#380355" face="Ravie"> Mr. E. Sánchez Get to know me! / Talk to me! ←at≈:→ 00:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Replied to corresponding talk page.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  00:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Da Kurlzz
Hi, I removed your db tag on Da Kurlzz and made it a redirect to the band article. Corvus cornix talk  01:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. Thanks for the heads up.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  01:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:American quebec 1775.jpg
Hi there. The map's done—I just need to work out a minor glitch (I've left a question for you over at WP:GL/IMPROVE) and upload it.

By the way, the "Click here to leave a new message" link in your Talk header is pointing to the wrong URL; it should point to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jamesontai&action=edit&section=new, not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User%20talk:Jamesontai&action=edit&section=new. Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hm... I'll take a look at that. Thanks.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  19:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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Jimi Jamison article
Dear Mr. Tai,

When you said my addition to the Jimi Jamison article did not appear to be "constructive," were you referring to the YouTube reference I added? The only reason I added that was to make sure that I left some sort of reference for where I had gotten the foregoing information. Jamison himself explained in that YouTube interview that he had actually been born in Mississippi, but grew up in Memphis. I can repaste the information, without the "sources" part, if that makes things less complicated. Let me know if that is a reasonable option. Thank you!

Matt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.134.39.35 (talk) 16:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I removed it because YouTube cannot be used as a viable source. It looks like the software reverted all of your edits instead of the one edit to the YouTube reference.  In order for you to keep these pieces of information on the article, you'll need to cite it properly with reliable sources.  Feel free to browse through the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia, located near the top of the right column on user page.  I've tagged that section with cn and added a no-footnotes tag, since the article does not have in-line citations.  It looks like you've undone my edit already, so a reversion on my part will not be necessary.  Feel free to ask me further questions if you need help.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  16:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Blackpool
The page on Blackpool - especially the section on Gay Blackpool - is grossly inaccurate, however all my attempts to rectify this have been deleted. This does not say a lot for Wikipedia, so if someone can find the time to pass on this complaint to a person in adminstation who may make some good use of it, I would be most grateful.

80.193.157.182 (talk) 16:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC) Michael Knell, author, columnist


 * If you believe that the article is "grossly inaccurate", you may edit the article if you wish if you abide by the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia. If you need help understanding them, please let me know.  I have removed the links you just posted on this talk page.  By the way, the list of policies and guidelines can be found on my userpage near the top of the right column.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  16:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

AppleDesign Powered Speaker
You need to explain yourself. Your reversions seem random to the PowerCD entry. You keep saying my link changes are vandalism, but they point to a web page with very detailed images of the Powered Speakers. Did you even look at the changes before you reverted them? It is far from vandilism, much less insubstantial, but rather helps those who link to the site better locate the additional information.I will be reverting these to my last revision. --75.56.210.196 (talk) 16:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I would advise against that, since that would start an edit war. The link checked out as a spam link before I began reverting them.  Please do not accuse other users, as it is a violation of WP:AGF.  I will look at the links myself again to double-check.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  16:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I did not accuse anybody of anything. I stated my case clearly and simply and asked logical questions about your seemingly random reversions. The link already existed for some time and I am not sure what you mean by "checked out as a spam link" ... by what criteria? How do you know a link is spam without checking it out? I merely added, removed and then clarified the existing link to help service the article better.--75.56.210.196 (talk) 17:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Look, if you've already restored the link, then this conversation's pointless. I have no desire to continue this discussion if you're going to have an attitude.  Have a good day.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  17:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Help
Thank you ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 19:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You're quite welcome. You may also use inuse if you want as well.  Have a great day! :D  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  19:16, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Im am not a user of wiki and someone created a profile on me divine mafa. i will have to blank it because everyone is using their private names andyet they feel that i should stay expesed. i need that removed. I am not interested to have my name on discussion forum. Yes I will continue to try and delete. I am not a memeber and i dont want to be. some of those operations require membership. I have done this far as fumblingfoe. thanks. respect my decesion. DivineFumblingfoe (talk) 20:56, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Please specify exactly what it is you are requesting to happen and which article(s) it is that you wish to have removed. Thanks.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  23:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Couchiching Institute on Public Affairs

 * Moved from mistakenly-created User talk:Jamesontai&action=edit&section=new by Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello Mr Tai

I see you have attached to a new article I just created, a couple of tags about third-party sources and reliable references.

That is in the page for the Couchiching Institute on Public Affairs.

I have added some sources - to the Canadian Encyclopedia and the Imperial Oil Review (not perhaps as well known as, say, The New Yorker, but Imperial Oil was for a long time Canada's biggest oil company, and its quarterly magazine was very credible. I also have noted the online video coverage of the two most recent conferences, not by someone controlled or paid for by the Institute itself.

In most of my adult life (I am about 60) the conferences of the Institute have had media coverage in national newspapers. It is a bit hard to find this kind of reference now. I doubt that the story about the upcoming (as it then was) 2008 conference on Canada Newswire would be of much support: http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/July2008/31/c8889.html  In fact this looks like a press release from the Institute itself.

The main history of the organization in print was published in hardcover in 2001 - but was published by the Institute itself.

How many more sources and references would Wikipedia usually want before taking down the tags and considering the content reliable?

Thanks for your help. I'm fairly new here for this purpose.

Johndgregory (talk) 03:17, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the article needs to be restructured more than anything right now. The article contains a lot of external links and lists of people.  As much as they may be notable, the magnitude of the list of people who are involved takes the focus and attention away from the organization itself.  This is an article about the article itself after all.  I think a simple link to the organization's website and removing all of the unnecessary references to the organization's website will drastically improve the article overall.  If you want, I can reformat the article for you, but I wanted you to know that I will be doing that before you think we're randomly deleting chunks of the article.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  07:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Just so you know, WP:RS is a good way to review on reliable sources. I don't believe Imperial Oil Review is a third-party source that is considered neutral for this type of citation.  Also, newswires are also not neutral, as they are just regurgitations from PR departments.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  07:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the conversation. It may be that some of the names of people can be cut - leave it to me - but it gives an indication of the scope and credibility of the organization that so many of the speakers are themselves worthy of Wikipedia entries, and the mix of people from different backgrounds too. Likewise the list of recent conferences is of interest for that purpose. I could certainly remove a few links to the website, like the citation to the mission and history (except that I don't want to be accused of plagiarism - I suppose I could paraphrase) and re the board of directors.

I agree with you about newswires. I am not sure I agree re Imperial Oil Review - it's a neutral third party, even if it is /was a popular journal rather than an academic one.

If you wanted to try a reformat and post it to my sandbox rather than editing the main page site, I'd be happy to consider it. (Can you post to my sandbox?)

Johndgregory (talk) 02:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've made many changes to the current article, which I've saved on User:Jamesontai/Sandbox22. Please review the changes.  Right now the article reads like an advertisement.  This needs to be fixed before another editor sees this article as a blatant advertisement and potentially nominate it for CSD.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  04:05, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

RFA closed
Hi, I have closed your RFA. I believe the main concern shown in it was that you need to work on a few areas.
 * 1) Demonstrate your aptitude towards using good judgement. Using automated tools to revert vandalism is robotic. It does not demonstrate your aptitude.
 * 2) Interaction with the community. There is scope for improvement here. Many newbies will contact you as an admin, so you need to be patient with them.
 * 3) Value to Wikipedia. The basis of the encyclopedia is content. We revolve around content. Adminship involves maintenance and administration of content. You need to be aware of writing styles, layout and so on as an admin to understand how the encyclopedia works.

Wish you all the best for you next RFA. Do work on the above. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  07:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I was wondering when it'd be closed.  I'll keep those things in mind.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  16:40, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Jameson, I just noticed this had been closed, and want to let you know I'm really pleased that you're still editing and participating in others' RfAs, from all appearances, in good spirits. RfA can be a grueling process, and too many good editors get discouraged when their RfA fails. I also want to let you know I really appreciate anyone who edits under their real name being willing to run for RfA -- I think that shows the kind of confidence that is important to being a good admin. I hope that you'll run again after some more work; you seem intent on taking some of the lessons to heart, and I have no doubt you will make a truly fine admin at some point in the near future. -Pete (talk) 06:39, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your kind words. I think I pretty much knew that the RfA wasn't going to work out in my favor about an hour or two after I accepted the nomination.  I admit there were some tense moments, which truthfully I was really waiting for Mr. IP to come back and respond (he never came back after his nap...)  Once I knew the RfA wasn't going to succeed I essentailly took advantage of it and basically made it into an editor review.  I don't think the comments hurt me really, in fact it helped me raised certain questions regarding the process, which I hope can turn into a Wikipedia essay pretty soon.  I think that RfAs should essentially be an arena for positive feedback and construcitve criticism, not an interrogation chamber, which was essentially my upmost concern right now.  I'm not bitter or anything, and I don't see my second failed RfA as indication that I'm somehow a bad person or editor - just basically my current line of work does not require these tools (yet).  Thanks again for taking the time to write me.  I appreciate it.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  11:21, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem -- all the best, see you around the wiki :) -Pete (talk)

Thanks for signing my guestbook

 * :D  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  02:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: TinucherianBot
-- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 13:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  14:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

-- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 09:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

fumblingfoe
my name was used over and over again, and I requested that they stop doing so. They threatened to block me and they have done so beacsue I had to delete the talk history that was done negatively. Below you can see that I wanted my name not used and I was abused beacsue I live in America, thats not far because It not right. 69.143.57.71 (talk) 01:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I have no clue what you're talking about
 * What were you trying to say on the above post?
 * Which article(s) are you referring to?
 * Were you logged in as a different user?
 * What did you want me to do/accomplish?
 * Please use spell check and double-check your word usage is correct.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  06:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The article in question is divine mafa my different user name blocked is fumblingfoe I did not authorize any write ups about me. The wiki members is uerope are fighting me because Im in America and using my name to edit irresponsibly and then blocked me off. I want you to delete the above talk history on the above items. Can you help. thanks. Fumblingfoe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Mafa

That cannot be deleted. I don't understand how being Europeans or Americans can change anything. You're going to have to be much, much more specific before I can even begin to do this.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  12:47, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Know that there is no "conspiracy" amongst Wikipedia users. If this article is about you, then you will need to contact an administrator, whom I am not, to deal with deleting such items.  WP:ADMIN.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  12:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Couchiching Institute on Public Affairs
Hello Mr Tai:

I have looked at your Sandbox version of the CIPA page. I appreciate your spending the time to set this out.

I am not sure I understand why you recommend removing the statement of the mission and the history. CIPA is one of the persistent and credible voices in Canadian public policy. Those who come across it today - and it is in the press every summer - may want to know what it thinks it is doing and where it comes from.

When I was a student of political science in the 1960s, the conference was written up in the media every year. The reason for the speakers' list is not glory by association but a simple demonstration that CIPA has been a forum for serious thinkers for a long time. The list also indicates the variety of topics covered over the years, and the geographical reach of the discussions - speakers have come from far as well as from near. It demonstrates the non-parochial nature of the proceedings.

I will take out the reference to scholarhips. It's not supposed to be an advertisement! But in my student days and for a good time afterwards I wondered how one got to go to Couchiching (the way I now might wonder how one gets invited to the TED lectures.) I am not the only one who thought or thinks that because of its institutional position, it must be an invitation-only conference. So it adds value to the readers' understanding of the nature of CIPA to know that it is open to the public. I guess people who have a personal and practical interest can go to the website and find out about scholarships there.

Is it not a source of value for Wikipedia readers to have links to third-party videos of proceedings of the conference for the past couple of years? Again, people could find links on the web site of CIPA - but Wikipedia does not work by simply naming an organization and posting a link to the organization's web site. Sometimes the same info is displayed in the Wikipedia writeup.

If the difference is in the independence of the sources - I have added several since your first note on that topic. I will keep looking - but what one is likely to find is newspaper articles describing past conferences. I was thinking that might not be a very authoritative source either. (There is one well-known Canadian novel - In Praise of Older Women - written by Stephen Vizinczey about 1965, whose final chapter is set at the Couchiching Conference. I doubt this is a reliable third-party source on very much...)

thanks for your help.

Johndgregory (talk) 04:29, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The problem with YouTube videos is that many of them are blatant copyright violations to the point where it is now common practice to run through the articles on Wikipedia and remove all youtube links from articles. I understand where you're coming from regarding the mission statement and history sections.  The problem with those problems is that we need to remove as much "direct copy-and-paste" information as possible since a simple link to CIPA's website will provide those two pieces of information easily.  Also, I'm not saying that CIPA would, but in case the article isn't updated after this and let's say CIPA decides to change their mission statement.  This article would then not only be outdated but depending on how much of the statement gets updated, may become outright incorrect.  The history section, as I've said before, is not a history section, but a collection of internal links to other Wikipedia BLPs.  This does not accurately reflect the "history" section as stated in the section header.  If you insist on keeping that section, then at least change the section title please.  I'm going to change my Sandbox article to reflect some of the changes made already.  Please feel free to continue commenting on this page.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  18:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

 * w00t! :D Congrats!  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  18:26, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Chauncey Holt
Please give me an explanation as to why the the article on Chauncey Holt was removed and redirect to "Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories"?

What should I do to be able to submit an article about his life?

Wim —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfkmurdersolved (talk • contribs) 09:51, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Your content was trying to promote a website which your username is based on. Wikipedia is not a place to document conspiracy theories.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  09:54, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Re. Fender Forum page
You said that I was vandalizing the Fender Forum page; this is incorrect. The "Greene user" user is doing so and I'm attempting to undo his blatant, inflammatory edits. Jeff Muscato (talk) 22:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied on user and article talk pages.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  22:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Fortnight
Hi James! I just wanted to know if there's a plan to bring back the COTF. It would be awesome! --Dabackgammonator (talk) 04:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, we'll need at least five editors who will be able to commit to editing university articles at hand in a bi-weekly basis. Feel free to start a thread on WP:UNI's talk page to see if we can get this going again.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  18:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd be up for doing it, but I really think we should just consolidate it to one article per fortnight. Esrever (klaT) 20:39, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * OK. Let's take this back to WT:UNI.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  23:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Fox Theta Delta
Dear Mr. Jameson L. Tai,
 * I am a member of FOX THETA DELTA our organization is existing in many years.. and I posted my organization in the list of fraternities and sorority in Philippines but then i found out that it deleted i am ashamed of what happened please let it back because its a thankful to me and to my organization for you MR. Jameson L. Tai.
 * were almost thousands here in Philippines, in the half of our organization we thank you if you put back our org. listed there.


 * P.S. My E-Mail address is dark_star10000@yahoo.com.ph replay to me... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.4.44.170 (talk) 04:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't make out half of what you're saying, but I'm not responding by email on this one. The deletion came from Articles for deletion/Fox Theta Delta.  It was deleted because it is not a notable organization and it was agreed upon a discussion which took place publicly, and you had a choice to respond to.  Please review our many policies we have on Wikipedia.  If you believe your organization is notable, please follow our guidelines and establish a well-written article before resubmission.  Please note that any attempt to recreate this material without substantial improvement is grounds for speedy deletion in accordance to WP:CSD.  Have a great day.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  05:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

198.83.124.253
IP 198.83.124.253 is the Borough of Manhattan Community College, where I teach in the CIS department. I have previously discussed with an admin. the idea of blocking for an extended period (if not permanently!) anonymous edits from this IP on the grounds that none of our students has a valid reason to do so from our site: research without loggin in, yes; registered logged-in edits, yes; anonymous edits, no. The response was that blocking anonymous editing is done rarely and only for short periods, but this is a recurring — nay, continual — problem from BMCC. Would you care to pursue this? -- Robertpgreer 14:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * As much as I would like to, I am not an administrator. Block requests are usually done through WP:AIV in vandalism-related edits. You may find an admin on WP:ADMIN or if you want some instant feedback, or a related room on freenode IRC will probably get you faster results. Also, another way could be using . If you require additional assistance, please feel free to let me know.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  16:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Jameson! — Robertpgreer (talk) 13:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You're certainly welcome! Have a great day! :D   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  13:29, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:212.183.134.128
Hello, I am an editor on Greek wikipedia, passing most times from here to put interwikis. I didn't go to vandalize the article. I share an Ip with someone vandal. Greetings, --212.183.134.128 (talk) 22:15, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please remember to sign in when you are making edits. If you do not have an account on the English Wikipedia, consider getting a unified login.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  23:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:72.50.176.148
Hey, I was vandalizing the Pythagoreanism page, I will admit that. But I also made a ligitamet edit, which was NOT vandalizing! I fixed the sentence "Women were held to be different from men, but sometimes in good ways." to say "It was believed that women had different, though not necessarily weaker, mental capacities." My sentence has the same intention, but is clearer in meaning! Why is this third edit vandalism?

72.50.176.148 (talk) 01:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Please stop bombarding me with why you made certain edits. Your edits were reverted after a chain of vandal edits were made.  It's plain and simple.  Please review WP:VANDAL more our policies with vandals and vandalism on Wikipedia.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  03:40, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Jacksonville Suns
At this time I am highly irritated at what you are doing to the Jacksonville Suns page on wiki. All of the information that I am uploading is valid. Why does the Jacksonville Suns have to hide their history, but the other teams get to show their. If you feel the info is a copywrite problem then make proper edit, but removing all the info is not fair to our fanbase, You can call the Sun Office at 904) 358-2846. This is really frustrating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolyfett (talk • contribs) 16:13, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Please allow me to do my job by placing proper information to our article. This is not fair, nor does it make any sense that our franchise is not allowed to present itself like the other teams in the Southern League. Please allow me to update our infomation with no further problems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolyfett (talk • contribs) 16:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Please note that I have only reverted one of your edits, which was completely unconstructive because you decided to blank the entire page and replace it with content not related to the subject, but your own personal opinions. If you wish to review the article history please click here.  May I also refer you to WP:COOL.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  16:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That information was never taken from Sunofsame.com, they took that information from our previous wiki entry. Please allow me to do my job! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolyfett (talk • contribs) 16:21, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * "Please note that I have only reverted one of your edits, which was completely unconstructive because you decided to blank the entire page and replace it with content not related to the subject, but your own personal opinions. If you wish to review the article history please click here. May I also refer you to WP:COOL. - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 16:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)"


 * That change was due to the fact that I am stumbling around on this site trying update information that was already created a year ago, by me. To my surprise every detail and information that was research was total removed. The History section on Jaxsuns.com was written by me!!! It is not a copyright issue because I work for the franchise. Do you even know what the Jacksonville Suns are? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolyfett (talk • contribs) 16:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, if you actually read what I linked you, you wouldn't have said that. If you cannot determine what you should and should be placing in articles, please review the many Wikipedia policies and guidelines, which a concise listing is located near the top right corner of my userpage.  If you have further problems with other editors, please contact them.  And at this point, I will only refer to the edit in which I personally reverted.  And on that note, I seriously could care less where you work, but if you must take it to the point where you have to blank an article to make a comment, you seriously need to take a step back and take a deep breath before contributing further.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  16:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * One more note before I stop commenting on this issue completely, if you work for the franchise, you are most likely violating WP:COI.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  16:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * AWESOME! :D Thanks!    - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  17:10, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, better image. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 18:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * You've just turned awesome into hilarious! :D It's just :D wonderful!  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  20:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Featured List contest
Hey, this is , co-coordinator of the WikiCup; just informing you of the Featured List contest, starting this coming Friday. You may want to check it out; it will keep you busy for the time being before the WikiCup starts around January. Thanks for listening!  iMa tth ew (talk) 22:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look, but considering I have mid-terms soon, I may not be very competitive during this contest. We'll see.  Thanks for informing me.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  22:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Mangotsfield United F.C.
Please stop changing their nickname from "Mangos" to "Mangoes". It is not a typo, that is how they spell it. See their web site for confirmation if you need it. - fchd (talk) 04:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll keep that in mind - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  05:18, 6 October 2008 (UTC)#

Hello
Hei buddy hope you're doing well.. take care ... and beware of Italian girls :D your pal, Danger^Mouse (talk) 14:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * snoggles* go for Canadians :D
 * LAWLZ  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  14:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
Jamesontai, I'd like to thank you for voting in my RFA. Thanks also for expressing your trust in me, and I hope that I live up to your expectations. Don't forget, if you have any questions (or bits of advice), please leave a message on my talk page. Thanks again,  Spencer T♦C 02:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad I could support you on your RfA. We need more editors like you with the mop.  Best wishes to you.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  04:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

AAU reminder notice

 * Notice delivery by xenobot  14:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  15:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

My edit: "Unconstructive"?
You reverted my recent edit to Deer, and requested that I "provide an informative edit summary." I believe that I already did this, but have clarified at Talk:Deer. I would however like to say that I'm a little annoyed at the message you posted to my Talk: "The recent edit you made ... appears to be unconstructive." We can certainly discuss whether my edit should stay or not, but I think that under Assume good faith, saying that someone's edit is "unconstructive" is a little strong and not in the spirit of Civility. Have a good day. :-) -- 201.53.7.16 (talk) 16:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The message was part of a standard user-warning message. If you feel that the word "unconstructive" should be changed to something else, please discuss possible word substitutions at the warn-message template's talk page.  Have a great day!   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  16:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:Wikipedia Email
The following was the email received. My reply, for continuity, is under your initial email message. Please continue the discussion below the last comment of the thread.

Hello,

Hope all is well.

I'm a bit confused in regards to wikipedia's standards for appropriate reviews. While you and other editors have deemed links to reviews by Consequence of Sound, LLC as "vandalism" other editors have allowed them.

First and foremost, I find it particularly infuriating that editors, rather than the music community, determines what reviews are "legitimate". For example, despite being highly regard by publications like the New Yorker, MTV.com, Filter Magazine, Time Out, and the BBC, among others, Consequence of Sound is deemed an inappropriate outlet because it does not have a wikipedia page? Can you please explain to me as to why these outlets, combined with over 5,000 users, read these reviews each and every day?

I ask that you review your decision and perhaps communicate with some of your peers just what determines a review's legitimacy. I can give you countless examples of hundreds of wikipedia pages of links to reviews from outlets that not only don't have a wikipedia page, but don't even come close to the reputation or readership that Consequence of Sound has.

I applaud you for your work and I know how had it must be. However, in this case, I think wikipedia is dead wrong.

Alex Young Publisher/Founder

http://consequenceofsound.net/ http://consequenceofsound.net/about/

--- This e-mail was sent by user "AxYoung" on the English Wikipedia to user "Jamesontai". It has been automatically delivered and the Wikimedia Foundation cannot be held responsible for its contents.

The sender has not been given any information about your e-mail account and you are not required to reply to this e-mail. For further information on privacy, security, and replying, as well as abuse and removal from emailing, see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Email>.

Mr. Young, the edits I reverted were reversions of mass-"copy and paste" links on the External Links section of several articles. Since you are essentially promoting your own URLs, I must insist that you review the WP:COI policy on conflict of interest as well as WP:EL, our standards on external links placement. Wikipedia is a community-based project with editors around the world, including members of the music community. Notability is a tricky business when is comes to various Wikipedia topics, and I urge you to review WP:N for the general notability guidelines. Additional guidelines are available via various WikiProjects specializing in the field, like WPP:MUSIC. WP:MUSIC should complement WP:N. Before you pass judgment on Wikipedia as a whole or its editors, I urge you to review the various Wikipedia Policies and Guidelines. If you have any questions, you may reply on my talk page. Unfortunately, I do not respond via email for cases such as this. Have a great day.  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk ♦  contribs  17:17, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Jamesontai,
 * Thank you for your prompt response and I appreciate your explanation. Like I said, I understand that you're job is tricky at times and I admire you for that. However, I would point out that when it comes to publishing links to reviews appearing on Consequence of Sound, I neither no it to promote the site, nor in a form of vandalism. As an author of several wikipedia pages, I realize the importance of creating an article using many different sources and references. In my opinion, the more reviews for an album the better, especially when the publication at note is well respected within the music community. In other words, I do these edits not for the benefit of the website, but for the benefit of enhancing a particular wikipedia article.
 * With that being said, I do agree that notability can be a tricky topic and it probably doesn't help that a majority of links posted for CoS reviews comes from yours truly, but I would like to point out that there have been a number of cases when links have been posted to reviews by others, and I would be happy to link you to those if that would help at all.
 * I'm not trying to start a problem and if you believe it would be in the best interest of all parties involved to stop posting links, I will gladly comply. However, I have reviewed wikipedia's notability standards, and I am fully confident that we fit a majority of the criteria necessary.
 * I look forward to hearing back and have a great weekend.
 * AxYoung (talk) 18:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I personally believe in this case, as much as I sympathize with what you're saying, the policies on WP:EL and others are quite clear. For a source to not even have a legitimate article on Wikipedia does cast doubt on whether those EL inclusions be notable, and provide substantial content that hasn't already been covered by other ELs on the article.  One other bit, I believe it shouldn't take the owner of the website to be adding links himself.  If this source is widely used, a wide range of users would voluntarily cite your website on our articles.  Sourcing on your website is also an issue.  We cannot have articles citing themselves to be a legitimate source either.  I'm sorry, but there are just too many factors and until they are worked out, I'm not sure it is appropriate to be added at this time.  You, and others in the community are free to add this website in the future once these issues are addressed, or if our policies and guidelines change.  You are welcome to work with WikiProject Music (WPP:MUSIC) and collaborate with other editors focused in the music industry to review your website as well.  WikiProjects sometimes can work out their own notability guidelines to allow certain exceptions to external links.  However, as you have no doubt found already, more than one editor, including myself, has reverted your external links, which means that my original thoughts on this issue has been seconded.  Please try to form consensus with other editors to work out the differences if possible.  If you should require further assistance, please contact me via my talk page.  Thanks and have a good weekend.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  contribs  04:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Rfa Spam
Thank you so much for your support on my RFA, which today passed unanimously. I will do my best to make sure that I don't let any of you down. If you ever need any help with anything, feel free to ask me, i'll be happy to. Thanks again--Jac16888 (talk) 17:17, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, congrats! :D   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  guestbook  ♦  contribs  19:09, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Arg!
I just tuned into RfA again today after being away from RfA for a month, and saw I missed your RfA. In case I get busy next time, please let me know! - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 13:09, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I certainly will. Have you thought about adminship?   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  guestbook  ♦  contribs  15:03, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Avon-by-the-Sea
Actually I have been researching to create an Avon by the Sea article as that is where I live. And since there is articles on Sharpes, Mims and other unincorporated areas of Brevard County I felt that Avon-by-the-Sea needed it also especially since I specifically searched for Avon by the Sea and found nothing on it when I was looking to find out population of the area. True it is rather small ~ but if someone were to be doing research on it there needs to be some data available and there is nothing worthwhile online.

Thanks,

JCSR (talk) 15:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be happy to work on the article with you. I've started a sandbox article for us to collaborate until we're ready to deploy the article into the mainspace.  I look forward to working with you.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  guestbook  ♦  contribs  21:09, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I do have one question though, since I'm in Melbourne, I'm not sure if starting an article on Avon-by-the-Sea would be appropriate, especially since it is part of Cape Canaveral (http://www.myflorida.com/cape/visitors.html). Am I mistaken about this?  Please let me know.  Thanks.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  guestbook  ♦  contribs  21:14, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, US Census Bureau has not recognized Avon-by-the-Sea as a census area, which they do cover Avon-by-the-Sea in Cape Canaveral's census data (http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFFacts?_event=Search&geo_id=01000US&_geoContext=&_street=&_county=cape+canaveral&_cityTown=cape+canaveral&_state=04000US12&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&ActiveGeoDiv=geoSelect&_useEV=&pctxt=fph&pgsl=010&_submenuId=factsheet_1&ds_name=ACS_2006_SAFF&_ci_nbr=null&qr_name=null&reg=null%3Anull&_keyword=&_industry=&show_2003_tab=&redirect=Y).  - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  guestbook  ♦  contribs  21:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * That's weird though ~ when I worked for the census last decade I covered Avon-by-the-Sea and it was listed as being separate from both Cocoa Beach and Cape Canaveral, plus unless it is an extreme emergency Avon-by-the-Sea has to get emergency services from Merritt Island (with the exception of the Sheriff Department of of course). But ambulance services and fire and rescue generally come from Brevard County and the closest Brevard County Services are in Merritt Island.  Often we have to wait 15-20 minutes for emergency services even though the Cape Canaveral Volunteer Fire Department is less than 5 minutes away, because we generally have to wait for a response from Brevard County Emergency Services in Merritt Island.  Plus Cape Canaveral & Cocoa Beach have both tried to annex us for decades.


 * JCSR (talk) 04:11, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I think the determining factor is whether Avon-by-the-Sea is a Census-designated place. I don't believe it is right now.  Perhaps during the next large census that may change.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  guestbook  ♦  contribs  05:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Trying to make La Tale
I am trying to make a wiki for La Tale and it keeps getting deleted saying that it is an advertisement. I know the intro is not comprehensive yet but I am trying to make it work. Is there some wording that you want that would stop this from being flagged as advertisement?Djxerox (talk) 17:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please use WP:SANDBOX to develop your articles. Once you create an article on the mainspace, unless it conforms to Wikipedia Guidelines and Policies, it may be speedy deleted.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  guestbook  ♦  contribs  17:35, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Alright I will take a better look at this. Thank you. Djxerox (talk) 17:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. A key list of policies and guidelines is located near the top right of my userpage.  Have a great day.   - Jameson L. Tai  <sup style="color:#660000;"> talk  ♦  guestbook  ♦  contribs  17:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)