User talk:Jamie-greenenergy

March 2021
Hello Jamie-greenenergy. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Jamie-greenenergy. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 23:37, 1 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello Mr. Ollie. Thank you for your advice here. I can confirm that I'm not a paid writer or have any commercial interest in promoting any thing. My main intention for next five to ten years would be to find and support groups who truly support fighting climate crisis and educating the public. Maybe I have to adjust my writing style. I had clearly explained the reason for starting the liquid battery article in the talk page of the article I started. Looks like I have missed few steps not by staring in "articles for creation" etc. This was my first proper article. I was very proud of it and kept improving it until it was well referenced. Mainly I was watching youtube videos and reading references on how to improve an article. I grew up in a remote island west of Scotland and we all grew up interacting with the CRLB battery installed there which supported our day to day lives as an off grid community. This was a free gift for the community. Growing up we didn't have grid power like rest of the world. I had an emotional bond with this technology and thought learning about this technology more and creating a well referenced document to practice writing, while using this a focus area to write wiki articles. If you think this article is biased, I would honestly like to understand and learn how to write unbiased professional wiki articles, just to support the fight against climate crisis. I genuinely didn't think this was biased and I do not want to promote any company or person. I can remove anything you would like me to remove, if you can help me write about this. I just wanted to let people know what's out there and support groups who genuinely do something about the climate crisis without talking about it. If you can, please drop me a message with tips. I have a day job as an engineer and I'm not a paid wikimedia writer... Many Thanks

--Jamie-greenenergy (talk) 07:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , You've uploaded images (for example) File:Containerised SLIQ Battery.png and File:StorTera Logo.png, and tagged them as your 'own work'. These are clearly marketing images produced by StorTera. Can you explain this, if you are not related to the company? MrOllie (talk) 12:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi MrOllie, Thanks for raising your genuine concerns. As I said, I'm new to this and I collected information from at least 4~5 sources before putting together the article with the help of my partner Laura, who is also from the same community in Knoydart. We contacted

(1). University of Strathclyde (UoS) (2). Faraday Institution (3). StorTera (4). BEIS (Ministry of Business energy and industrial Strategy of UK) (5). Inventor Pasidu Pallawela I requested and received large number of reports from all parties and got images from Stortera and UoS which they were happy for me to use. I didn't want to get in to trouble while trying to do something favourable for all these parties, so I specifically made sure that there are no copywrite issues. But in the CRLB (Continuous refreshing liquid Battery) articles, I didn't use a single picture with StorTera (ST) or any organisations logos on it. I didn't use University of Strathclyde (UoS), BEIS or StroTera logos. Please, Please check this! I think this is where you were mistaken. Anyways, I made a mistake by uploading images with brand names. I Admit that. This happened last year. I was new to Wikipedia and I honestly didn't think Wikipedia is this kind of a commercial battle field and that generous editors such as your self have to police it. It could be because of our little island mentality, growing up in a small & caring community. I saw articles like Tesla, facebook with logos and branding material in them and thought it must be ok to upload any material/logos/pictures if I do not violate copywrite rules. I thought I will have to plan the article first, upload pictures and then to create the article. This was done last year. Then my partner Laura figured out it's not ok to insert logos of ST or UoS. Honestly still I do not know how to delete the files I uploaded (Honestly this is not BS, really I couldn't figure it out how to delete, usually I'm goo with tech ... but this is one of those things I couldn't figure out!). So without deleting, I uploaded pictures without ST and UoS logos. These branding less pictures were used in articles to make the article look lively and readable!. So if you think these pictures are not appropriate, please delete them. I wanted to do that anyway. When I upload these pictures, I had to select a radio button to confirm that this my own work. This was confusing. Since the pictures were collected by me, articles were written by me and had obtained prior permission from all parties, I just ticked these are "my own work". For an example, the Stortera logo you pointed out hasn't been used in any article by me. I just uploaded it long time ago thinking they might be useful. Also I do not mind you deleting articles or removing me and Laura from this as we have not accepted payment or any other benefits from anyone for this. So we have nothing to lose and no one is coming after us. This was a little learning and social responsibility exercise. When I first saw what you have done, I felt very sad as it was years of effort at night time and we were training our selves to do something good. But the I totally understood what you had done. Maybe you can't maintain these encyclopaedias without properly policing. So I thanks you for your good work from the bottom of my heart! But in the same time I would humbly request you to look at facts such as pictures I had used in the article (without ST or UoS logos) and references. If I had put any thing with commercial nature, that was by mistake and was corrected immediately without publishing. So it's mainly a training exercise and genuinely a start of an effort to support/accumulate information on small academic research groups, government bodies and small companies who support fight climate change and whom we believe can really make a true impact on climate crisis unlike giant pyramid scheme companies such as Tesla who invest in bitcoins which is a climate disaster!. If you research on these groups which we intend to support (next article was going to be on an algae bio-reactor project from Argyle - totally non commercial), you will figure out that we will not become millionaires by supporting these organisations. For an example We interviewed the inventor Pasidu Pallawela, who is a humble Scientist from Sri Lanka, who escaped the civil war in Sri Lanka as a child. He kept his childhood trauma aside and did UK (my country) a great service by dedicating his life to invent green technologies. That was very inspiring for us! So it's fine to delete but it's heart breaking to hear that some one saying we did it for money after all our efforts. Anyway, I thank you for providing us feedback and for allowing us to have learning experience. Many Thanks MrOllie --Jamie-greenenergy (talk) 22:19, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , If you did not create those images yourself, 100% from scratch, they are not your 'own work'. I would strongly suggest that you use the WP:AFC process to create new articles from now on. Someone will review your work and let you know what needs fixing there, whereas if you create articles in the main article space they will be deleted when they are not policy compliant. MrOllie (talk) 22:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , Hi MrOlllie, Have a quick question for you which I couldn't find an answer for. When we start an article in articles for creation, I figured out that it start as a draft. How do I send it for review and who will publish it in the end as an article? Will some one do that or should I do it myself after some time? Also am I free to start editing now? Many Thanks Jamie-greenenergy (talk) 22:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , All of your questions should be answered by reading WP:AFC thoroughly. To be clear, though, you should not move the article out of draft space yourself. MrOllie (talk) 22:18, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: jamie-greenenergy (March 3)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

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KylieTastic (talk) 22:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, User:Jamie-greenenergy/sandbox/jamie-greenenergy


Hello, Jamie-greenenergy. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "sandbox/jamie-greenenergy".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 23:08, 3 September 2021 (UTC)