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Livin' on the Edge
An IP keeps adding the category Category:1993 songs to the article "Livin' on the Edge", when it's already listed under Category:1993 singles. I've already reverted twice, made a comment about this in the history, and warned the user about making unconstructive edits. In case you aren't familiar with the categories regarding songs, "1993 singles" is supposed to be used primarily for singles released in 1993, while "1993 songs" is supposed to be used for songs which were not released as singles. Both categories are not supposed to be used, as one is a sub-category of another. Therefore, since "Livin' on the Edge" is a single, it is supposed to be placed under the 1993 singles category only. Since I don't want to break the 3-revert rule, if you could please help me tackle this vandalism, that would be great. Thanks. Abog (talk) 16:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Edits to WikiProject Aerosmith
Hi there. My edits were to convert WP:AERO's project banner to use, a meta-template for project banners which was recently developed. Using a meta-template has many advantages, ensuring consistency and standardisation across all project banners. Of course modifying something as complicated as a project banner has potential problems, most likely to have been caused if WP:AERO was using non-standard quality or importance classifications, or unique features. I did check about twenty talk pages using the template after conversion, and fixed any errors I noticed; if you see any remaining mistakes (redlinked categories, lost pages, or corrupt display) do let me know and I will ensure that they are fixed. Happy‑melon 13:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No pages are actually in the categories I have deleted; if you actually go to the talkpage you will see that they are now in the new categories, it's just that the pages have not been recached and so still populate the deleted categories. The same is true for WhatLinksHere from the categories.  No, there was no discussion, it's called being bold. This is not "testing", but implementation - the metatemplate has already proven itself reliable in extensive testing, and is used by twenty other projects none of whom seem to have a problem with it.  I say again: if you see anything broken, just let me know and I will make sure that it is fixed. Happy‑melon 19:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Good Article status
I agree. That, along with a "musical style" section, and it should be well on its way. We also need to properly cite all existing references, showing the title of the article, the date, the access date, etc. I will try to do what I can. We should try to push for at least around 50 references for now. Abog (talk) 15:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

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Aerosmith article
I think the article is just about ready for GA status. It already has over 100 references now. By adding about 20-25 or so more references in key places, as well as doing a general double-check and cleanup (per manual of style) of the references, I think it might even be ready for FA status once those references are found. I came up with a list of the 20-25 items that still might need citation. Let me know if you'd like to see it.

Also, I hope the Walk This Way autobiography references aren't too excessive. The book is just really definitive though for finding all the information, particularly in the 1970s and 1980s, periods of the band which aren't documented as comprehensively or as accurately elsewhere, especially on the Internet. The article on Kiss, which is listed as a good article, also contains lots of citations from a particular book. However, the AC/DC article, a featured article, doesn't rely too heavily on any one source.

Please let me know how you think we should proceed. Abog (talk) 07:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * That sounds good to me! You did really great work as well, particularly with updating all the references and bringing them up to Wikipedia's standards.


 * As far as the list of items which may still need referencing:

**Walk This Way (1986) "helped introduce Aerosmith to a new generation" **Cryin, Crazy, and Amazing "proved to be huge successes...on MTV" **Joe Perry's Grammy nomination for "Mercy" **first ever performances in India and the United Arab Emirates
 * The Lead:
 * "pop" and "glam"
 * "inspired legions of rock artists that came after them"
 * "cemented their status as hard rock superstars"
 * "among the most popular hard rock bands in the world
 * "regained the level of popularity they experienced in the 70s"
 * continue to maintain high levels of "popularity" and "success"
 * 1970s:
 * "local success doing live shows"
 * "Toys in the Attic" and "Big Ten Inch Record" were also rock radio staples" (maybe they weren't back then, but they certainly are now)
 * 1980s:
 * "after recording the guitar parts for "Lightning Strikes"
 * "replaced by Rick Dufay"
 * "began working on a comeback"
 * 1990s:
 * first ever performances in Australia on the Pump tour
 * Pay-Per-View performance with Guns N' Roses in Paris
 * "the hard rocking "Livin' on the Edge" and "Eat the Rich""
 * Alicia Silverstone referred to as the "Aerosmith chick"
 * Liv Tyler featured in Crazy video
 * "accusations of selling out"
 * I Don't Want to Miss a Thing introduced Aerosmith "to a new generation"
 * I Don't Want to Miss a Thing being "forever solidified" as a "slow dance staple"
 * 2000s:
 * performed in Latin America to "sold out stadium crowds"


 * There are about three other items I didn't list, which I am fairly confident I know where to find them. I will add those in as soon as I can. Abog (talk) 16:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Removal of links to Aerosmith-related pages
Not to be nit-picky, but why the removal of links to Aerosmith concert tours, Toxic Twins, Blue Army/Aero Force One, Awards and Achievements, Outtakes, etc? Is there a policy regarding this? Can there only be sections on these, if there is summary text?

Also, there are plenty of good articles on musicians that list some singles (often #1's), with a link to the main singles discography. Why can't we list the Top 40 on the main page, since it's a pretty concise list of their most popular, well-known, and sought-after singles?

If you could point me to some policies or precedents set in the past regarding this, that would be great. Thanks. Abog (talk) 21:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well I guess I could see it more from a structure/MOS perspective rather than from a NPOV perspective. I've read up on these policies but there really is no definitive answer on whether we can have sections with only links to other articles and no summary text.


 * I see where you're coming from though in not wanting to clutter up the article. Hopefully, if people really want to, for example, find a list of Aerosmith's awards, they will be able to find it in the template. Abog (talk) 23:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's great! Abog (talk) 00:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks very much for the Barnstar. I'm glad we finally got the Aerosmith article through to GA. Granted, it did take some compromises and some effort, but I'm pretty happy with the result. I'm glad to see you back in action and I look forward to working with you on boosting this article to FA and boosting some other articles up to GA. Thanks again. --Abog (talk) 02:06, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

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