User talk:Janmarian83

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Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! Nat Gertler (talk) 18:41, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Undid revision
Jan!

Thank you for inquiring at my page about my undoing your edit to the page coloring book. Wikipedia has a number of guidelines for what makes acceptable sources for claims, and they are not always obvious to the new editor. The claim that you make, that coloring "can be useful in developing manual hand coordination of a child and as a consequence, it facilitates the learning of writing skills" is a health claim, and we have particularly strong guidelines on what is acceptable sourcing for health claims. Surely, you've seen web pages that promote as absolutely true health claims that you recognize as ridiculous, and misleading statements of health can have real world impact, so you can probably understand why the concern. Even were a health claim not the issue, however, the source you used would be a source for concern. For one thing, it's a website whose model appears to be built around encouraging people to come download coloring pages, and thus drive ad revenue. As such, they have an interest in promoting coloring. Sources used for information that is beneficial to the source is always a concern; that's part of why what we're looking for in sources is reliable third party sources, those not connected. We could accept the Harley-Davidson website as a source for the location of the Harley-Davidson headquarters, for example, but we would not accept such a site's claim that "motorcycles are the safest form of transportation". Another problem is that the article appears to be self-published. topcoloringpages.net doesn't have any sign of an editorial structure, the blog content all bears the same signature. Per our guidelines on verifiability, "self-published media [...] are largely not acceptable as sources". I understand that you feel the claim to be "obvious", but health beliefs that seem obvious often turn out to be false. I'm glad that you're choosing to help improve Wikipedia, and hope you will continue to do so... without relying on topcoloringpages.net --Nat Gertler (talk) 19:06, 10 June 2018 (UTC)