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recent edits
Hi, Janusvulcan. Please take a look at this diff. The text that is highlighted in red is the only text that was changed in that edit. The green background only means that that particular paragraph had some alterations in it, but it does not mean I wrote the whole paragraph. As you can see, the confusing wording about O'Reilly being a teacher was not my doing. I have changed the text at your suggestion, however. — coe l acan t a lk  — 05:15, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Why did you say you were reverting vandalism in this edit? There was no vandalism there. — coe l acan t a lk  — 05:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Cause I was, duh. The edit I made showed up, but the previous edit is not there. :) --Janusvulcan 17:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

email me
It's about one of your edits. CyberAnth 05:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I can not trust anyone on wikipedia enough to email. The place is over run with sockpuppets, trolls vandals, and what ever else may lurk in the dark corners. Go here unknown-blog leave a post. I will contact via the unknown blog. --Janusvulcan 22:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

AfD Nomination: Wikimob
An editor has nominated the article Wikimob for deletion, under the Articles for deletion process. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the nomination (also see What Wikipedia is not and Deletion policy). Your opinions on why the topic of the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome: participate in the discussion by editing Articles for deletion/Wikimob. Add four tildes like this &tilde;&tilde;&tilde;&tilde; to sign your comments. You can also edit the article Wikimob during the discussion, but do not remove the "Articles for Deletion" template (the box at the top of the article), this will not end the deletion debate. Jayden54Bot 16:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikimob
You asked a question on AFD. Another user responded, but I'd like to give a fuller response. You asked if Wikimob would be okay as a user page. The answer is yes; it is an essay on Wikipedia, and users are permitted to have essays on Wikipedia in their user spaces. For examples, see WP:ESSAY. Look at how User:Chris is me (for example) has links to his essays on his user page.

The reason this isn't appropriate for mainspace is the WP guideline that says to avoid self-reference. Read that page for more details. --N Shar 23:57, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Crystal clear. Should I delete Wikimob and move to user page? Or is this action done by some other editor? --Janusvulcan 01:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I suggest going to the AfD and stating that you would like the article userfied, but that you don't want to do this while the AfD is in progress (or that you don't know how -- choose a story). Politely ask someone to do it for you. I don't think there will be any problems with that, and if there are I'll help sort them out. --N Shar 03:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

How to userfy
You can userfy draft articles all on your own. Using this one as an example, you do it by creating a page like User_talk:Janusvulcan/Essay Draft/Wikimob and pasting in your text or start writing.

To avoid any confusion as to what the piece is, I suggest you paste in the following, exactly as it appears below, at the top of the page while you work on it:

 This is a draft essay. It is a work in progress. 



As well - very important! - be sure to either remove all categories or place  at the beginning of the ==Categories== and   at the end of it. This way the page will not show up in the categories as an article.

Here is an example of how I do my drafts: User:CyberAnth/Drafts/Bonny_Hicks.

CyberAnth 08:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

"covert method to gripe"
Better not to push the issue. I've posted on WP:AN to request that the page be userfied, so let's wait and see what happens. I would try to avoid a fight with another user -- they usually end up badly -- so I'd say, Coelacan is entitled to his own opinions about the essay. Once the article is userfied, this should all blow over -- right now, tensions are running high because the article is mislocated. This makes some people angry. --N Shar 05:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Nothing more from me. --Janusvulcan 05:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If it gets really bad (for example, if the user starts harrassing you, which is unlikely), you could file an RFC (request for comment). That's not a step to be taken lightly, since it could lead eventually to arbitration and a censure by the Arbitration Comittee. Update: No administrator has yet responded to my request, so let's keep waiting. Sigh -- they're so quick until you need them. --N Shar 05:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to make a note here regarding my comment and the AfD under discussion. My comments, which you noted on my talk page was simply an attempt to head off a potential flare in tempers from both parties by reminding everyone that humor is easily misread and it's best to speak clearly and directly when possible, and that a little light humor can sometimes defuse situations. I ensure you I meant no disrespect to you or any other editor, and I think my tone will bear that out, but I wanted to make sure I was read correctly. The comments directed at you were perhaps a little terse, but I tried to assume good faith on the part of the editors making them. Whether or not that's justified I can't say, but I would encourage you to avoid a a war first, and stem it quickly by calling for mediation or an RfC quickly if things get out of hand. If you ever need help, just drop me a line, I'm always willing. Wintermut3 06:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

re:wikimob
In case you haven't saved it somewhere else, I'm willing to copy it to your userspace if you want. I do believe the article makes some good points, but the way it assumes the automatic constitution of a cabal to push POV fundamentally violates WP:AGF. Otherwise, it does make a few good points. But, it ends up ignoring khaoswork's more level-headed comment about people working (but not formally collaborating) toward a similar goal, though.Circeus 18:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

hmm
While you're still in a bad mood, I suggest you examine this quote. I'd be interested to hear your reaction. — coe l acan t a lk  — 05:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I did not say this! CyberAnth said your a F wad not me. Thats a personal attack as it what you did. --Janusvulcan 05:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I know full well you didn't say it. I'm pointing it out to you to see what you think of it. Read closer. He says I'm a "fuckwad" and then tells you that "you are unbeknownst being afflicted by the malady as well". I'm just asking how that sits with you. — coe l acan t a lk  — 05:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Look your mocking me on your talk page I just found this archived: "The best part was: "So I began almost three hours ago"! Simply astounding. I actually could not believe my eyes when I saw him taking my "call the Don" thing seriously." Thats clearly attack on me and not the article see No personal attacks --Janusvulcan 05:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's a personal attack, Janusvulcan. I try to avoid making personal attacks. I was expressing my amazement that you would spend three hours digging through my edits. And I'm a little amazed by your userpage recently. And the "covert method to gripe" bit was a direct response to another user who asked is this "a covert method to gripe". I quoted that user in the same way I'd quote anyone in letting them know precisely what I was responding to. I did not choose those words. But if I had, and even if I were running around plastering them all over WP:ANI, I don't think they would amount to a violation of WP:NPA. — coe l acan t a lk  — 05:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way, if you think I'm a sockpuppeteer, you should list my suspected sockpuppets, either at WP:SUSPSOCK or, if you believe I am currently using them to disrupt Wikipedia in very damaging ways, you should take your list directly to WP:ANI. And I am still waiting to hear why you're apparently not offended by CyberAnth calling you a "fuckwad". — coe l acan t a lk  — 05:44, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * as far as I see it cyberanth was refering to you as the F***wad not me. I left the question on his talk page . If its me he was refering 2 I will 1st ask him to stop. If your the F***wad, thats for u to take care of.--Janusvulcan 19:01, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Jeffpw says this
templater JanusVulcan, you might benefit from reading this essay. Coelacan has been here long enough to quote policy. Sending templated warnings is unproductive and (in my eyes) a bit uncivil. Jeffpw 09:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

WTH r u talking about? no where does lenght of time have anything to do with allowing a troll to attack other user. Only the user contributions are to be questioned not users themselves??? Plus I dont have time for you right this moment. You look like you may have as many questionable user edits your friend and good good buddy Coelacan. --Janusvulcan 18:56, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I did not use a templete at first. I asked nicely to please revert his edits to his user page. Look here I Responded correctly. --Janusvulcan 19:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Out of curiosity...
Do you consider me to be a sockpuppet? I find that very amusing if that is the case. Artw 18:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. The only person able to answer that question is tha man or woman in the mirror.--Janusvulcan 23:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I hate to be the one to break this to you, butthe man in the mirror... is you! Now would you mind telling me if you're accusing me of being a sockpuppet or not.
 * Cheers,
 * Artw 00:03, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: User talk:bbatsell
WP:BLP applies to articles, not users. Quoting your own words is not a "personal attack" in any way, shape, or form (and by the way, you license all of your edits under the GFDL every time you press the "Save page" button). You have been told that a number of times and continually respond "that's your opinion". Well no, you're wrong, it's Wikipedia's policies. I encourage you to read them before you waste any more of our time. If you have a dispute with an editor, then the proper venue is dispute resolution. Nothing here requires administrative intervention, which is what WP:AN/I is for. —bbatsell ¿?  22:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Well I hate to talk in absolutes because I can't envision all future scenarios, but basically, yes. If the original text is an attack or uncivil than perhaps not, and any accompanying text has to meet all the relevant guidelines, but yeah.  Someone quoting you is not an attack.  —bbatsell  ¿?  01:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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