User talk:Jared Hunt

Hope you find yourself comfortable here, Jared! If you have any questions, feel free to ask. :)

~Kylu ( u | t )  05:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Mirrors and Forks
I really do care (and have spent a great deal of time and energy on the project), but I am also on a de facto wikibreak (not permanent), and if/when I return to active editing I will not begin with MF; it stresses me too much. Superm401 - Talk 03:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Nathaniel Hawthorne
I would like to register my objection to your revert of part of my Hawthorne edit. The reason I put his full name in bold is to emphasize that his birth name is different from the name we are familiar with. If you want, I could put (born Nathaniel Hathorne) in the first paragraph of the article, but I do think this information should be readily and unambiguously available–currently one can only glean it by reading through the second paragraph, but it's standard practice to put birth names in bold. Biruitorul 23:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Perfect; thanks. Biruitorul 13:07, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the nice comment. :) --TBC TaLk?!? 01:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

thanks!
You're very welcome; I hope that I see the page through to completion. Tony 16:24, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

My name
It doesn't mean anything in particular. When I first started using the internet on a regular basis 6-7 years ago, I started using my real name. For various reasons that turned out not to be the best of ideas so I turned to using an old school nickname. It didn't take long before when signing up to new sites I found the name already taken so I had to either come up with a new name or try modifying it slightly. --pgk( talk ) 09:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Teke's RfA thanks
Thank you for your support of my RfA, which has passed with a final tally of 76/1/1. With this overwhelming show of support and approval I am honored to serve Wikipedia in the task charged to me and as outlined in my nomination. Happy editing to you! Teke ( talk ) 17:29, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Skub?
It's a reference to this webcomic strip; see also The Perry Bible Fellowship. Hope that clears it up for you; good day and happy editing! --Merovingian - Talk 12:23, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) --Merovingian - Talk 12:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Footnote problem
The issue has been around since at least 19:20 (UTC) yesterday. I just posted a summary at WP:ANI hoping someone with the power will do something about it. Gimmetrow 14:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Weapon dance
Thanks for helping--especially with reference formatting--on the Weapon dance article I've just started. Cheers from Naples, Italy! Jeffmatt 15:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Weapon dance, again
I now see that there is redundancy between the references and notes; that is, the compete reference, including page numbers, appears in both places. I suppose that isn't necessarily a bad idea--I'm just wondering which is right. I think the way we have it on our Music of Italy article is: name of book, journal, etc. in the refs and page number and miscellaneous notes and comments in the notes. I'll look for the ISSN numbers on the journals. Thank you for reminding me. Jeffmatt 16:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

(About 6 seconds later) I see that you have put everything in notes. That's fine, too, I guess. Oops, no --wait a minuite. You deleted the refs subtitle. I think that must have been unintentional. Jeffmatt 16:18, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

and again
Oh, Format-Meister! I obviously am not very good with those bibliographic templates. The first note in Weapon dance now reads as number 6. It links correctly, as do all the others, but it should be number 1. Sorry. Jeffmatt 09:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

That seems to have fixed itself, or maybe you worked your unugly magic! Thanks for the reply on my page. I read the ref you linked. It makes sense, though I was more or less following the lead of a wiki administrator who is working the Music of Italy article with me. I suggest--for further discussion (if necessary)--we use the discussion page of the Weapon dance article, itself. That way, I won't clutter up your page. Jeffmatt 09:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

again, again
I don't know what to do with the previous references. I see now that a new reference--Kurath--while it goes to a note correctly, it doesn't crop in the references. Maybe that's because there is another ref by the same person. Actually three by that name, one is in the list of references; the other two are from the same work (a different one by the same auther). I suppose that every work in the notes--except URLs--should be in the references. Actually, it seems to me that the pages numbers should be in the notes and not in the references. Hmmmmm. I guess it'll work out. Right now, I'm having trouble adding a section on South America. It shows up in the edit space but doesn't appear in the article. Maybe that will fix itself, as is sometime the case. Thanks for all your help. Jeffmatt 07:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I fixed it good this time! I made it Kurath (with one ref) and Kurath2 (with 2) . They now point to the right refs. There is still some text in the edit section right above "footnotes" that is supposed to be a new last section called "South America". It is one paragraph starting "In Brazil..." It shows there but doesn't save in the article.


 * I think the footnotes should contain the entire references...IBSN, pp. numbers ,etc. etc. and the reference section should be just a list of the names of the books and journals. That way, you get around that cramped-looking repetition of the same information Jeffmatt 09:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I fixed the paragraph that wouldn't save. I forgot the double angle bracket in the mark-up to close the ref above that section. Ol' eagle-eye, that's me! Jeffmatt 10:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

more on references in Weapon dance
It is interesting to compare Weapon dance and Music of Italy. The reference section in weapon dance is totally redudant and, as you say, could be eliminated since all of the information is contained in the notes section (which could then be called "footnotes and references". (Actually, the references are not complete since they don't update themselves automatically from the bibliographic templates.) The alternative in Music of Italy is to have a notes section that contains true notes (that is, comments about the text) and for, straight references, only the author's name that then references an item in the alphabetized list of references. This only works if the bibliographic templates are loaded in the "reference" section and not between ref mark-ups in the editable text. I think that your idea of getting rid of the reference section in "weapon dance" is probably the easiest thing to do since the alternative entails moving all the templates into the reference section and replacing them in the text with a simple one-word author-name reference mark-up. I have said all that after going blind looking at Citing_sources/example_style. There is no consensus. Jeffmatt 11:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * OK. I think I'll go ahead and delete the References section in {{Weapon dance]]. It is, as you say, much easier to maintain and I can't think of a good reason to have an alphabetical, redundant list of books.Jeffmatt 12:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Music of Italy
Re Featured article status. I just started Weapon dance a few days ago. It isn't nearly ready for bathroom reading, much less featured article. As for Music of Italy, TUF-KAT and I have been banging that out for 6 months and I think he is happy with the referencing system. Please don't touch it without contacting him. That system, by the way, IS as easy to maintain as yours, provided one starts it that way. That is, bibliographic templates in the reference section. That leaves the notes very uncluttered looking--except for real notes--and gives you the advantage of being to say in a note something like "See Smith (1995) for another point of view" or something like that--at which point, the reader looks at the list of books. I have a few notes like that in the Music article. Anyway, TUF-KAT now has it in for Peer_review/Music_of_ItalyPeer Review and both of us kind of think that is already feature quality, though perhaps a bit overwritten in parts. Jeffmatt 18:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

JPD's RfA
Thanks, Jared, for your support at my RfA, which finished with a tally of 94/1/0. I hope I live up to the confidence you have shown in me in my activities as an administrator. JPD (talk) 15:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Interesting discussion on references
Hi, again. Re our recent discussion, see the talk behind today's FA at Talk:Belton_House. Cheers, Jeffmatt 14:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

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Reversions
Hi there! My apologies for reverting you here - I soon realized that you were fixing up the references, and reverted myself a few seconds after that. I think fixing up the references is great - I haven't seen a better way of doing this on Wikipedia yet, so I guess what you're doing is more than alright. --HappyCamper 02:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Infrared Tree
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Cite press release
Regarding your request at Template talk:Cite press release, I've added the language option, as well as the quote option. I just saw the request, sorry if this is too late for your purposes. &mdash; coe l acan t a lk  &mdash; 22:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

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