User talk:JarrahTree/Archive 31

Travel warning
I notice none of our medical articles have templates that say "We're not doctors and this is not medical advice", and none of our legal articles have templates that say "We're not lawyers and this is not legal advice". So I don't think you'd have much chance of getting an outback travel warning template up. Hesperian 00:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Merge
If you look at Special:Contributions/MH_au, it seems he has been creating masses of similar articles, all linked to http://catholic-hierarchy.org/. And guess what? That website has Google advertising. I'm not saying its deliberate, as he has made lots of other useful contributions, but it does need further investigation. &mdash;Moondyne 07:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * , all 1306 of them. I'm sure that the links in many cases are useful, but I will refer this one to the experts at WT:WPSPAM. &mdash;Moondyne 07:14, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

From the vault
I asked a Q. and congratulated you on the new milestone. The question was "do we have a 'corporate (pages) watchdog'?" Cheers - Fred 12:18, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Stuff
Bomberphone bombed, Blackburn kept (but it's on its last legs), Eucalyptus vandal blocked by Proto before I got there. Hesperian 23:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Efficient? Well, I just nominated Banksia epica for FAC, so that should slow me down for a while. Hesperian 00:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Great Walk Networking
Hi Satu, Thanks for your help with the page and the AfD. You inspired me to lend a hand in a selection of Australia AfDs. :-) --Greatwalk 00:07, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

You have email
&mdash;Moondyne 04:44, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Walks
Hey alls well, Ill have look at what you resuested in a minute. Tomorrow I going for a walk along the trails in Ellis Brook Valley Reserve. What features would you liked photographed for trail pages, and Darling Scarp. Gnangarra 04:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds interesting any request before I leave Gnangarra 02:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Gee I need a bullet, went there midday just to get good light in the quary, but must have touched the lense while taking photos during the walk there, ended with 30 pics with a central white/hot spot. I uploaded a image to Darling Scarp but will get back there and replace with something better in the next week or so. Oh and added another article to my watch list Gnangarra 12:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

java
To your dismay I'll be doing something to that effect shortly, but in a more agreeable way. Vicarious 05:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You're mistaken, chronology of the planet started with TV programs in 1964, not 1975. Didn't your teacher at the dawn of time teach you any better? ;-) Vicarious 06:04, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought it was 74 when colour tv arrived in Perth, Western Australia though i suppose that it wouldnt have been until 75 when the signals first reach as far inland as the Darling Scarp. 8P Gnangarra 02:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

MJ
Thanks and fixed. &mdash;Moondyne 02:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Guildford Grammar School Chapel
How is this chapel special? why cant i have an article on the Aquinas College, Chapel? or why cant every school in the world with a chapel have a page on their chapel? what separates this one from all of the other school chapels? im confused. But why do that, when you could peer-review the AC page =P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Aquinas_College%2C_Perth - if you are bored =P Smbarnzy 03:17, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You seem to think im pissed off lol, im fine ay. I thought only they could AFD stuff - learn new stuff all the time. i didnt think we were arguing? i was offering my opinion on the subject and learning. thanks for the pointersSmbarnzy 12:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Supercat
A "supercategory" is the opposite to a "subcategory". I suppose I might have been clearer and referred to it as a "parent category". Category:Rivers of Western Australia was already in Category:Rivers of Australia, which was already in Category:Environment of Australia. So there was no need to put the first directly into the last. Hesperian 23:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Pretty much. There is no need to put an article in a category if it is already in a subcategory of that category. For example, there is no need to put Chippers Leap in Category:Western Australia, because it is already in Category:Geography of Western Australia, which is a subcategory of Category:Western Australia. To put it another way, it is already in Category:Western Australia via another category. Hesperian 00:02, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, so you have. Will read them now. Hesperian 11:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I suppose you're aware of the demise of our beloved Sarah by now. Hesperian 11:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for comments, could you be more specific
Hi, Thanks for your comments. I get the impression I have done something wrong, so would appreciate more specific comments. As you are probably aware, climate change and global warming is a major topic in and for Australia and I am trying to do my bit to contribute to a better WP in that area in relation to Australia, as WP is decidedly US centric. Ecology is the study of the living things which exist in the Environment is my understanding, but I get the impression that this is a controversial view. Any guidance on my specific mistakes would be appreciated. dinghy 15:18, 22 February 2007 (UTC) PS, Love your picture of Sarah Island. Was in Macquarie Harbour a few years ago.

Agricultural regions
Morning,

I can't say 1947 agricultural regionalisations interest me much at the moment. Perhaps I should be ashamed of that.

I would be surprised if there is a clear link between them and any modern regionalisations.

Not sure what you're asking. If you're asking how and when I prefer to receive these little tidbits of information you pass me, the answer is however and whenever you want. Talk page, email, crunk car, whatever. :-) I take 'em any way I can get 'em.

Hesperian 00:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I sense my incomprehension has disappointed you. Sorry about that. As an old friend once said to me: "It's Friday (sigh)." Hesperian 00:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

West Australia Project
Sorry, I wasn't aware of WA project. I hadn't noticed it in the WikiProject Australia project page as law and government has been my focus. I will post categories and template changes in that forum before doing things in the future. I can undo the changes to the various pages I made through the template if required. Assize 06:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Article creation
Thanks for fixing the category talk page. I'll have to read a bit more to understand the flag "class=NA". I have to admit I just copy and pasted the field from other talk pages and didn't research the proper syntax, so mea culpa. Have added a category to the article page on courts and tribunals. Will look at the Australia Project New Articles and New Stubs list, although I have mainly worked off the Law project page to date. Thanks. Assize 06:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

huh?
__earth (Talk) 09:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * oh! __earth (Talk) 05:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * alright. This is getting weirder by the moment. __earth (Talk) 05:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Climate change and Australia
Thanks for your specific comments. Please see entry on Australia project talk page I hope this can gain some acceptance of what I am trying to do. I will work my way through your specific comments. Cheers dinghy 14:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Fun stuff
Between tutoring and photographing I've had a very busy couple of days. I might have to have another one of my weekly "Spot the plant" thingies as I'm great at photographing plants without knowing what the hell they are. Orderinchaos78 14:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Although not great at knowing what to do when accidently on private property and confronted with one of those electronic gate thingies from the inside :D DanielT5 23:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

A-day
No biggie that stuff happens! Cheers!  Intinn Talk! 18:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

CSNF
Look fine. I gave it a light copyedit and wikified. I hope thats OK. Perhaps needs some specifics on the Manjimup woodchipping. 03:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Patience, my friend. I had six emails and a two-page watchlist to get through. I'm looking at it now. ;) Hesperian 04:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry for delay. Something pissed me off and I thought it best I log off for an hour or so, lest I lose my last shreds of dignity. Moondyne has handled it beautifully for me in the interim; at least a pint a think.
 * Yep, looks good. Too bad woodchipping is red; I've been seeing this quite a bit lately - articles of generic scope but importance only to Australia coming up red. Wish I could remember what the other recent example was.... Hesperian 05:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Pardon the intrusion, I did have a look around a while ago on the subject of woodchips (Don't click here, this is a redirect to something about wallpaper!?) and meant to start an article on it. I think this was during discussion about Great walk. A search reveals a mention a Gunns and a couple of other mentions regarding the threat to frogs and the like. Definitely worth an art. to explain the term to those outside Aus and the young'uns. On that subject, the practice is extant in S. America and SE asia also. Is there another word for it? Do you have some ideas how we might proceed? regards - Fred
 * My first message of the day was from a befuddled DanielT5 'neath a comment from your self. I did my best to explain. I'll start when I stop laughing, probably tomorrow. Bless you, there are now new neurosyntatic pathways humming away in my greyware.  - Fred 07:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Better that he found out sooner rather than later. Anyway have a look and/or edit at


 * actually it need a heavy copy edit first, more inbarassment (as my supervisor says!?)

Ellis Brook
Is named after the first Police Officer killed while on duty 1834 near Pinjarra. The Brook drains off the western face of the scarp into the canning river. the southern side of the valley is the location of the nearest alleuvial gold find to Perth, since then they have mined clay and granite. And its below Victoria reservoir but not downstream, north of CSR/Readymix Quaries it accessible form the eastern end of Gosnells rd in the burb of Gosnells. But since this all OR, and based on information from sources that arent usable under wp:v and wp:rs. Gnangarra 09:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * ok im getting it together will do an article when I get time during the week then we can link in but heres one source http://www.walkgps.com/Ellis%20Brook-Bickley%20Brook%20Walk.htm Gnangarra 10:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Rip curl
Revision as of 02:46, 24 February 2007 (edit) 204.120.167.32 (Talk) - were you referring to this on the AIV page? SatuSuro 09:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No, my comment was not ment for your report but for the one above. I just misplaced it and later moved it. Rettetast 09:40, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Red anon editor
I'm fairly certain that anon editor is David York probably forgotten to sign in. Look at the anon contribs. I don't like it much either if anons nominate, but nex week I said I will suggest a stub to be expanded. I'll try and organise it in the next few days. Even if an anon does nominate, if there is a number of people supporting it, it probably was a good nomination. Merbabu 09:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Any reason why you don't like it? But, I will ignore it anyway. :) Merbabu 09:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Didn't see your message. I removed it since it wasn't added to the right spot on the page. (Caniago 10:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC))

oddities
There is Wesfarmers which has now been added to the cat Gnangarra 11:08, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Definitely started here, but does Multiplex (company) still qualify? - Fred 15:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Judge refs
it looks like people are already on his case about it, and he has started reverting his self-references e.g. Leonard William Roberts-Smith. Hesperian 11:24, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * "humility and self-effacement" - huh? Hesperian 11:48, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

WAFA
Your challenge is to find media references to these organisations. That's where the inevitable AfD will sink or swim. I'm signing off now - over and out. &mdash;Moondyne 14:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah dont be so cynical - I see no need to find refs for the groups in the list? a bit odd ... cheers SatuSuro 14:37, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You misunderstood me. I meant media articles for the article title group (ie WAFA, SCNA, GWN, SWFDF), not for each of the groups listed inside the article. &mdash;Moondyne 01:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Growing Earth Theory
Thank you for the support against deletion and yes it looks like EE is on its way. Your sigh is quite mutual. MichaelNetzer 17:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Soldier settlement (Australia)
Hi SatuSuro, soldier settlement schemes directly influenced every state of Australia and have a direct link to irrigation commencement etc. These schemes opened up vast quantities of (amongst other places) Western Australia. Until today there was no article on Wiki covering the topic. I have started it and have also suggested it to be a WP:ACOTF article - would welcome your support if you think that such an article is appropriate for a collaboration project? -- VS talk...images 02:15, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) Thank you for your note - appreciate your view and certainly understand time constraints (but if you do find the time ... [[Image:Biggrin-smiley.png|20px]]). -- VS  talk...images 02:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Effects of global warming on Australia page completely rewritten - 40 references
Effects of global warming on Australia page completely rewritten - 40 references The article now has over 40 referenced statements and is based largely on a report prepared by Australia's premier scientific research organisation the CSIRO. The referencing of the article now compares very favourably with most other articles I have looked at. The article has no POV. The report on which it is based was prepared for the Business Round Table. It ought not be deleted now, even if it should have been before. Could each person who has recommended deletion please review and reconsider your view. Thanks dinghy 07:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Aquinas Page
Er..so your saying that it was founded in 1938? and could you please add that to the further reading/bibliography section? im not too sure on how that works...thanks Smbarnzy 08:16, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * What are all of the dashes? im slightly confused by it all, can you put it in this format:


 * Florey, Cecil (2000), Canning Bridge to Clontarf: An Historical Journey Along Manning Road

Sorry, im slow with all of the wiki stuff. thanks Smbarnzy 08:24, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
Hi - a belated thank you for your info and help! The links in there were all to american or overseas sites. Yes well either that or change their names. Fancyfootwork 11:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Railway stations
It was here. I let it slide as there didn't seem to be any great support for my idea and I accepted that such a change would need consensus across other states also. I've got too many other things on the go and frankly can't be bothered pushing it. &mdash;Moondyne 12:17, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

'''I have been having problems with archiving - please repeat your message if I havent got back to you about anything... thanks'''

Railway station disambiguation
As I said, I no longer feel particularly strongly about the issue and wouldn't go in to bat too hard. But, it'd be interesting to see if there's been any previous discussion on it and perhaps the question at WP:AWNB may flush that out. &mdash;Moondyne 12:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstorming
this became interesting to watch especially before christmas, I'll deal with the problem if it returns. Gnangarra 14:25, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

cultural issue
Hi SatuSuro, thanks for your support with the Good Article candidate. I don't know if you have much experience in Indigenous issues (I know a vast majority of Australians are not very culturally competent through no fault of their own) but if you have any cultural experience or training could you please help out at Village_pump_(policy). Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 15:05, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

the sky is falling
I appear to have large pieces of the sky falling originally when it hit the ground it turned into smoke but now it appears to be turning into a clear odourless liquid. Gnangarra 01:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah when the sky starts falling its time to play somewhere else. Gnangarra 11:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Cacofonix lots of noise, but never seems to learn... Gnangarra 11:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll drop by occassonally offer up a quiet word while mixing in some of Elma Fudds finest. Gnangarra 11:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You've been peking in my draws again, Yeah but for some they wouldnt like the queues of soldiers waiting to throw stuff at them first. Gnangarra 12:57, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Stiff drink does sound relaxing, think I'll partake in a brandy and retire. Gnangarra

Single Purpose: Vandalize Keesiewonder
Thanks for your note, and for being one of those who reverted vandalism to my user and talk pages while I was away. Hope you're well! --Keesiewonder talk 02:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

GGS Page / Other

 * I moved the talk page header to the top of that page, where it belongs :S, hence the "header". i dont see what im doing wrong :S
 * Extract from Auronauth comment: "schools like Aquinas were not created in the 19th century" - that was my reply to his comment, to point out that it was technically established in 1894. I think that he is just trying to make it seem like i have a problem with GGS, which is infact false - i have always acted in good faith - i even gave him some references, and did some minor edits on the article. Smbarnzy 08:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * People have made it seem like i have a problem with other PSA Schools, when in fact, i have done alot of work on the Public Schools Association article and have done some minor work on other school articles like Wesley, Scotch, and other PSA Schools, i even created some templates that applied to other schools. The truth in the matter is that my least fav PSA schools are Trinity and Wesley - but ive still done good things on those articles Smbarnzy 08:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Here's where I come in...
Hi Smbarnzy! I do believe that you are acting in good faith, but sometimes your good faith works against you. I don't really believe you have a problem with Guildford - but the refs you gave me weren't exactly useful, sorry to say. Anyway, I'd love it if you could help me reference Guildford Grammar School, and possibly with the prep school. What do you say? Auroranorth 10:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

GGS Chapel Ref

 * Id agree, we are very web-based, but we are young and thats how younger people are brought up these days - you dont write to people, you email them. you dont go to the library you go to the web. its just a generational thing.


 * Im not personally concerned with the GGS Chapel page, im mostly concerned with the GGS page because it is part of the PSA, my priorities are: AC, PSA, PSA Schools.
 * The archives at my school arent allowed to be accessed by students...so i cant, but ill look at the library 2morow if possible Smbarnzy 09:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Playground
Tiresome, isn't it. We need to learn to be more selective about who we invest our time and energy in. Maybe we need a new motto along the lines of "If I give you good advice, and you ignore it, we're both fools." Hesperian 10:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Just posted a bad SQL update to my gazetteer data and completely corrupted it. Grrr. Hesperian 10:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Back on track. List of lakes in Western Australia to follow tonight, by hook or by crook.
 * Of course not. WP:WA doesn't OWN articles. Tag with as many relevant WikiProject tags as possible.
 * Hesperian 11:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's okay; I've no objection to being stalked when the stalker is cleaning up after me. ;-) Hesperian 12:00, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well the list of lakes is up now. That's a good night's work well done says I. Talk to you tomorrow. Hesperian 12:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Sandbox
Hey, yea i get that im pissing people off, but im not intentionally doing it, its just how i operate. whats the link for the sandbox, ill start 2morow ok? coz im going offline soon Smbarnzy 12:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
Thanks Hesp, and Sat - your both educating me and making me more wiki-lierate, thanks alot for the sandbox BarnZy

Cats
I am going to put sub-categories in for the Categeory:History of Indonesia category. Starting with Category:Indonesian National Revolution. Hopefully a bit of cleanup. Merbabu 13:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Newsletter
I did some modification only to the layout, please check again. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 14:39, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Rip Curl
I've got computer problems here at the moment, so my online time is greatly reduced. While I'm online I'll pop in for a quick check on this article. It's been problematic for some time now. -- Longhair\talk 22:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

'Latest version'
Do you mean my changes? User:Merbabu/Newsletter Or Indon's before my changes?? Merbabu 01:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Stirling ranges
Just did a google for maps got a hit on a web clam for Bluff Knoll it includes links 5 near by cameras you need to enlarge these 5 to see Bluff knoll. http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Bluff-Knoll.webcams.shtml Gnangarra 04:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Indonesia - February Newsletter
Hello there! Please click here for the latest edition of the Wikiproject Indonesia Newsletter.

We hope it gets you interested in the some aspect of the project. Please contact Indon or Merbabu if you have any comments or suggestions (or do not want to receive this newsletter). regards Merbabu 08:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Did I ..?
Good one, cheers. I'd forgotten lots of things about this issue. I think that Jangle was actively ignored in some quarters. The carriers is a key paragraph I reckon. The reactionary angle, already there, is also really good. Ask me about the scrawny 14 year old who asked a bloke, up from the country, about his t-shirt.
 * Fred 12:33, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Serious issue how not to appear to be bigotted,racist, POV and discriminating towards/against a culture/nation who have a taste for paper and wh--- meat - how do you call a rotten egg a quail? or vicente verso verso? SatuSuro 12:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think I will have problem, versus vicinitas. I had better slope away now. Fred 13:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC) Scooped up with tungsten runcible spoon. I put it rouge proof isolation unit. Sloping for another half an hour yet. - Fred 13:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Vici citations at ibid. The gold seal of the milk bottle cap has been skewered by little birds, with words for ears that listen. Or to out that another wa YFred On the vitae vittoria, so I will be erratically editing erroneous EE, &c. More? Pls! - Fred 12:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC) Terms or ..? I suspect this kit's name was better before, just. - Fred 13:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

You still up
Before I post this to his user page could you have a quick look Gnangarra 13:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Done, Gnangarra 13:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Talk page has a 7 day archive bot, would assume he checks that at least once or twice a week. Gnangarra
 * I requested either directly on the meetup page, but more likely he'll contact via email. I'll also keep an eye on his talk page in case he responds there. Gnangarra 13:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Just tell him that Satu's buying! &mdash;Moondyne 14:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * If its a response of biblical proportions he'll get off with a jug of water, the creator will turn it into wine. Gnangarra 14:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

You rang?
&mdash;Moondyne 14:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I got it (email and the page in question). Reading now. &mdash;Moondyne 14:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Will discuss tomorrow. &mdash;Moondyne 14:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

3RR
Thank you on noticing me, but my RVs stick to rules: don't remove before discussion on future of template ends. See also other pages linked in that box -- TheFE ARgod (Ч) 14:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Tassie photos
Hi SatuSuro! Thanks for the welcome and the tips! Will check out the recommended links - still learning the ropes so that kind of advice is much appreciated! Merteuil 15:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Kraton disambiguation
No problem, I am using the CorHomo program for the first time today, a semiautomatic program to disambiguate links, and it's a lot of fun. There were two articles, Nyai Loro Kidul and Sunan Kalijaga that link to Kraton, but I could not quite understand what they meant. Maybe you can fix those two. Happy editing! Chris the speller 23:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Terrorism templates
Aside from being ugly little POV summaries of incredibly complex, longterm, political and military issues, with an arbitrary notification of 80+ deaths, I can't see anything wrong with them ;) --Steve (Slf67)talk 05:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Your repeated messages
I have on my watchlist the three discussions of our project: noticeboard, portal talk and project talk, and noticed you'd sent three same messages to those three. I'm very glad to have your active discussion, but isn't it somewhat redundant? No offense please, but sometime I got confused to which talk page should I reply. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 09:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * No need to apology, I think the three main purposes are a bit clear. The noticeboard is something about POV issues, new articles (by non-members), requests, etc. The project talk is for something really related to the project, standardizations, etc. and the portal talk is obviously for portal. However it might be sometimes confusing to choose between project or noticeboard messages, but I think choosing one of the two is good enough. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 11:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks
You're welcome. For what it's worth, I don't really disagree with your sentiment there; the "Recent terrorism in Indonesia" campaignbox is pretty pointless, as far as I'm concerned, because "recent" doesn't really define any sort of concrete scope, or imply that the events are really part of a sequence.

The practical issue here, though, is the question of how a nomination is presented. There's a difference between arguing that a campaignbox (or more than one) should be deleted because they're ugly/should be categories/etc. in general, and arguing that a campaignbox should be deleted because that particular campaignbox has some sort of major problem. The first approach is obviously going to provoke a lot more defensiveness on the part of MILHIST (which is the primary maintainer of the hundreds of campaignbox templates), because that reasoning could be applied to any of them; that's particularly true if the nomination actually happens to lump together military campaignboxes with non-military ones.

So I would suggest that, if the Indonesia project sees a problem with the Indonesia campaignbox that can't be solved by simply editing it, they should make a new nomination for just that campaignbox, and provide an explanation of what that problem is; I suspect the outcome will be markedly different from this sort of more haphazard nomination of several vaguely related templates at once. Kirill Lokshin 13:49, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Withdrawing a tfd nom
If you withdraw the tfd nom, as far as i know you can close it (but i am not 100% sure). What you do is put Withdrawn my nom ~ at the top and put  at the bottom. Hope this helps. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 13:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Damn, you're quick. It's an edit conflict :-), I was just finishing reading Chris' instruction. Thanks. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 14:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Adam Air Flight 172
Great photo! &mdash;Moondyne 03:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

inbox
Assuming the posty can find your letter box in the dark you have a message, think 78 will need some effort shortly probably will get AfD nominated. Gnangarra 12:51, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Mount Barker
Hello and thanks :) --AndyD_MB 13:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Campaignbox al-Qaeda attacks
Template:Campaignbox al-Qaeda attacks has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --&mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 15:19, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

edit count
Re: Yeah - this very moment we are having thunderstorms - whoopee! also cleared the 14,000 edits recently, still plodding away... thanks SatuSuro 02:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC) I just ran an edit count on you, and saw 15,370 ... a lot more than 14,000! :-) --Keesiewonder talk 22:00, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

What do you make of...
Consular assistance? Deletion? I'm not sure how this belongs in an encyclopedia. It is borderline travel advice. It's more like a definition and may of course vary from country to country. No refs. Merbabu 01:53, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

GGS Chapel
Hi SatuSuro. Are you an admin yet? I was thinking of nominating you. Thanks for the tip on further reading. Auroranorth 08:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * K. Ever got a barnstar? I really do think you deserve something. Auroranorth 10:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll look at school on Tuesday. Auroranorth 10:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Try for the Aikman book - it should be in the library... if you managed to get a look at a copy - let me know - and we can go through some of the issues that relate to the articles.  Have a good long weekend! cheers SatuSuro 10:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)