User talk:JarrahTree/Archive 32

C'ing away
Just working on WC. A gentle rain of the verifiably vindicative vindictives would be most appreciated. I seem to have lost the NPOV outlook though, might be time to push it out soon. You get the ankles ... - Fred Ka...Boom! Or did you mean an e? Curses, foiled again. And I was a bit shocked to see that AfD come back to haunt me. Does my feeble support earn me a CD voucher? - Fred 12:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC) That page or section is a stub. Please expand it with the references supplied. Other than that, what on this growing earth are you talking about? W you mind knocking the C off my shoulder. Or is the POV still ok? - Fred 12:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

One / closer to main space now. thanks, Sats. Alan Just so you know where it is now. Anytime, soon. Let me know how I can 'help'. - Fred 13:42, 3 March 2007 (UTC) No Worries. I was just talking to Dave. There was a bit of confusion there too.
 * A former premier also owes you thanks. I could not bring myself to revert it. - Fred 15:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Re., Biran. More former premiers! So many BBs it got too confusing, all popguns. Did you hear paul's interview? - Fred 10:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk page disruption :)
SatuSuro has a clean talk page! Must create a mess all over again ;) I was just wondering, for a chap as active on his talk page as you are, why not consider allowing a bot to archive your talk page on your behalf? I've made use of Werdnabot for a while now and can't fault it's efforts. -- Longhair\talk 10:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The bot is very easy to enable, and works well. The only sections it'll miss are unsigned ones. If you'd like any help getting such a bot to function, feel free to ask. -- Longhair\talk 11:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Tas sports
No, not really doing anything special - just fixing up some erroneous category additions - they added WikiProject categories to regular articles. -- Chuq 11:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

The bleeding obvious
As Barry Humphries once said: "If you have to explain satire to someone, you might as well give up." (I'm just having a bad day). Cheers &mdash;Moondyne 12:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Initially I left it there, because it was you guys. And then I realised that if it was anyone other than you guys I would have expunged it without so much as a how-do-you-do. So I thought I had better be even-handed.... Hesperian 12:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Bloody Hesp. Where's the fun gone. So you've got the yr 12 fun and games this year haven't you.   I suppose the lad has dug out Dad's old monkey suit.  I hope you told him to watch out for those Mercedes girls and make sure he's got ample supplies of you-know-what. It'll be a hard year for you my friend. &mdash;Moondyne 12:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The suit and limo hire mobs is the game to be in I reckon. &mdash;Moondyne 12:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries. Glad to hear you managed to wake up for your appointment. I got a call at 2:30 saying he's on his way home but forgot the front door key so I had to get up - Grrr! &mdash;Moondyne 02:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Conspiracy - na but...
I know your into all kinds of weird goings on this one has just stepped on a lot of toes including ours. Gnangarra 14:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Need Advice
Hi SatuSuro, you generally seem to know what things are about, so I'll share my current problem with you :) I've been asked to review Riverview Church (which appears to have been formerly called Rhema Family Church) which seems to have become the subject of a very slow POV conflict. Clearly sourcing is what is needed to fix it. Where on earth would I source information about a large Perth church from the 1980s and 1990s?? Was it even that big or influential, is there anywhere that records these sorts of things (The ABS don't note individual churches, already checked). Also see your email for an additional note. DanielT5 05:09, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * After spending 35 minutes fixing collateral damage, I think someone needs to keep a watch on somebody's edits. Is there a program that does that? DanielT5 10:59, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Hope Valley
Thanks. A friend of mine has taken a whole stack of photos down there and is willing to release them so that we can use them. Not sure if they'll be any use, but they could be. Orderinchaos78 08:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Email
Just your usual run-of-the-mill idiot I think. Acting in good faith I think, but lacking in judgment. I'll put the relevant page on my watchlist. Hesperian 11:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sent you some. DanielT5 13:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

AfD
I don't get it! Why do you object to me listing articles such as Andrew Choi for deletion? It's ridiculous that someone can create an article about an eight-year-old boy who seriously is in violation of WP:N? Auroranorth 12:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, I just got your message. Alan Carpenter was a bit daring, I realise (but it was unsourced) but the Christian band is still in violation of WP:N. Auroranorth 12:31, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome
Hi there! As I just posted to Fred.e - I was atually going through the Fellows of the Royal Geographic Society category adding the names to the cats (yeah, I know, what a way to spend my Sunday ...) as they get alphabetised oddly otherwise, and came across your bod there. Being a frustrated librarian I just couldn't leave him in his un-alphabetised state! Jasper33 12:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Western Australia, eh? I think the phrase 'you lucky, lucky bastard' springs to mind as I look out at a rainy, grey day in Blighty. I know. jealousy is a very unappealing trait ... Jasper33 13:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm more of a Joe Orton kinda gal myself, though I don't go as far as modelling myself on Kath from Entertaining Mr Sloane. I seem to remember something about Tasmania in Roger's Profanisaurus, but as we've only just met and I haven't quite worked out your sensibilities yet, I won't add the ref here! Jasper33 13:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Transforming Japanese Robots
Been working on all the chapter 17 characters from notable animated series MarronBalls (J. Miruku Cherax). Destructor & Crassimanus are underway but Cherax brothers; tenuimanus & cainii were a difficult pair and depressus character is hard to nail in a NPOV way. After their previous nominations for deletion I feel confident in their future. How can people think a show watched by thousands can NOT BE NOTABLE! Thankyou for reading between the lines, - Fred 13:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Irrigation in Australia is new ACOTF
Irrigation in Australia has been selected as collaboration of the fortnight. Please help in any way you can. --Scott Davis Talk 13:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
That is a very noble and community-first thought. Thank you so much for thinking of me, even though i have not been the best editor to deal with (im trying to improve - look at me and auronath now! ) thanks alot for the thought! your a champ. Smbarnzy 14:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Aw, you know ur awesome =P You enjoy your "something special day" long weekend, whilst i enjoy my "extra extra long weekend - i love Aquinas having boarders (boarders long weekend). enjoy Smbarnzy 14:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Images
Thanks, the pana you can see the stitch line so its not an going to be an FP yet, I need to spend some time learning to balance lighting. The BK one I've got better views but that one had the most detail. Got some more to upload later today for the SR article and porongurups(sp). Gnangarra 04:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I replied :) DanielT5 09:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

re:req
I'm off air until 2330 will look then and respond. Gnangarra 08:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Equake
Yes, my wife's has relies near Bukittinggi. They are all ok, and survived what one called the "disco". (Caniago 10:42, 6 March 2007 (UTC))
 * I'd like to feel what an earthquake is like (aside from the damage). Missed out on the Newcastle one. (Caniago 10:50, 6 March 2007 (UTC))
 * Lie in bed and get your wife to jump on it. ???? Merbabu 11:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Beds
YEs, a whole new meaning to 'sleeping on the wet spot' no doubt. :-P Merbabu 11:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Situation
Not yet. I seem to be too busy of late during the day to get anywhere near the downed pc's. I'm still on the laptop plodding away. I do my own repairs but seem to be repairing everything else of late ;) -- Longhair\talk 11:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Djogdja...
it's always a shocking landing. It's ironic i only said to you last night how we did the ring-around overseas after the Jogja quake. I've just done another this morning to the in laws. Merbabu 03:05, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

ghost towns
no worries, mate. Hesperian 03:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

A1
Thanks for the heads up. Seems mostly harmless to me but I will keep an eye on it. &mdash;Moondyne 07:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Geraldton: Yeah that's fine. &mdash;Moondyne 09:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Mudah2an
No I don't have relatives there, and mudah mudahan anda tidak ada kenalan juga disana yang bisa dapat musibah. When I heard the news I just thought I should really write this on WP. About the article, adding citations would be very very very useful. Cheers - Imo  eng  08:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yeah, I feel terrible about this, and how come it's always Indo? Actually I've never been there, hehe. Imo  eng  08:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict!) Cool man! Now you're back! It must be very exciting article. You know that SatuSuro, Michael, Merbabu and Imoeng (90% of the active WP:INA editors) are all in Australia where I bet a lot of news (predictions, analysists, sabotage issues, conspiracy theories, etc., you named it :) about the crash. So let's get crank on it!! Jangan kalah sama si Blood Red Sandman, who have GA'ed Adam Air Flight 574. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 08:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * We'll make this one FA in honour to the victims. Imo  eng  09:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I think we should have centralized discussion in the article talk page. It's a bit confusing. :-) Anyway, I trust you to be the NPOE (E=editor) there, but I can't help with you guys in the coming days. Probably I'll join in there with editing late next week. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 09:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Re Auror
He is trying to help wikipedia, and in the process he did a few things which werent correct, he has learned and should not do that again, im just hoping people will cut him a bit of slack given that he is under the age of 13 (primary school student) im just sticking up for him so he doesnt leave basically. SMBarnZy 10:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Crash
The details in the aviation forum I've been reading (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/3292891/) indicate the front tyres burst as a result of coming in to land too fast. (Caniago 14:13, 7 March 2007 (UTC))
 * Too tired to do it last night, but I just put something in about the wheels. (Caniago 13:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC))

Please stop
"You are introducing something in all those pages which are considered redundant repertitions. SatuSuro 00:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)"

Such as??? If you had a look at the mayors list for any other Capital City of Melbourne, they are all the same! I am making all the pages look uniform and as you woudl know, there are a number of "Perth's" all over the world, and identifying the City of Perth in Western Australia is very important.

Credentials
This Discussion might be of interest to you. Gnangarra 03:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Bush Fires Helena Valley
Trust all is well, just heard they have issued evacutaion notice for the area and a warning for the Darlington/Boya areas for embers and spot fires. Gnangarra 08:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just heard it on the news. It must be fairly close to you by the sounds.  I hope all is well.  Give us all an update here.  &mdash;Moondyne 09:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 6pr just after 17:00 had FESA guy on he siad it burning towards HV and into the southern side of the valley near zig zag, was advising to evacute HV area and warning Darlington Boya of possible spot fires from embers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gnangarra (talk • contribs) 09:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC).
 * If HV goes I have about three friends who will be so beyond distraught - considering whats inside their houses - the radio message from FESA at about 6.20 said - HV people have the stay or go message - huge amounts of roads are blocked (the cops awlays are extra cautious) and here in GF - my youngest is complaining about the embers in the swimming pool! - I will try to get a google earth thing on here soon. SatuSuro 09:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

On Google earth go to 31degrees 55 minute 50.83" S and 116 degrees 3'37.07" E   ( i couldtn find the diacriticals quick enough) and go out to about 1.5 km up and you have the area SatuSuro 09:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Symbols are in a box just below the "Save page" button. Just click on the one you want and viola! Hesperian 10:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * ABCtv news at 7 - the fesa claim is that it is 'under control' - SatuSuro 10:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

-31.93079°N, 116.0603°W ... Thanks for the update. &mdash;Moondyne 10:58, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Watching it from the top edge of the hudman road quarry - across the valley at approx 8 pm - the waterbombed helena river front (ie north front of fire) was still alight, however - the upper (southern edge) of the helena valley closer to the gooseberry hill area had at least 4 tenders near known houses to the quarry end (ie west end of the northern slope of goosebery hill that descends into the valley) - and the most frightening 1km wide front was bearing east half way up the side of the valley slope towards an isolated house - have no idea of the outcome.  i have a very poor mpeg of that...SatuSuro 11:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Your place is ok tonight(except for embers) hopefully the westerlys will push it straight up the helena river and keep it away from houses until it rains tomorrow. Anyhow yell out if need any assistance. Gnangarra 12:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Epostmans on the way, assuming he can find you in the smoke Gnangarra 12:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep and answered but you'll know that by now, also I've done the other message I mentioned Gnangarra 13:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

LOL!
Are you using some sort of spy camera or what? Then we shall start making the article. Imo eng  10:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * HAahaha cool. Btw, try Flight 200. A genius wants it to be deleted. Imo  eng  10:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * it's 2007 jakarta flood. I'm off to bed now, will continue tomorrow as I'll only have a lecture at 12:30, hahahaa. Night! Imo  eng  12:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey
Hey hows it going? Check out WikiProject Indonesia/Member activities and tell me what you think, honestly.  Imo eng  00:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, yeah, of course, it's just up to the project, that's why I haven't put the link on the navigator. Also, the updates are fully voluntarily, so that if someone wants his/her name to be taken off, then do so. Vieweng someone else's contrb page would seem like "liat - liat aja". But if we have this kind of page, then one can say to the world openly about the recent contributions. THanks -  Imo eng  10:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, you lost me a bit there. So you were saying we should do like talk pages? I reckon we can always tell people to cut the sentence short and keep it simple, it's not a place for "curhat" (do you know that word? hehehe). And yes, that kind of message would be a bit annoying. Bwmodular has posted a nice message, although a bit lengthy, like the last sentence. Cheers -  Imo eng  10:51, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for updating. A bit too long, frankly :P, but it's alright. ALso don't forget to put the bulleted point and the date, it's just neater to have them :D. Cheers -  Imo eng  11:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Tassie roads
Well done with what you have done so far - there are significant west coast roads too! SatuSuro 01:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC) You'll need to find a reference/citation for what you have put into the intro - SatuSuro 04:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It would be good if you could respond - I really need to find where you got your road stats from for the intro of the List article - they cannot stand alone like that - either a ref or citation is needed SatuSuro 02:49, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, sorry. Been a bit busy as of late. I have removed the unverifiable information from List of highways in Tasmania. I read that info in an RACT article, went to cite the article and it had been thrown away. Will Start looking for accurate highway usage stats as of now. Wiki ian 06:02, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Question

 * BTW there are cat police in the deep Dark depths - when creating like you did with airports - you are safe - make sure you have at least close to 20 articles when you are creating them :) SatuSuro 10:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I'm not trying to offend you but i dont understand this statement. What does cat police mean? What did i create to do with airports? Wiki ian 17:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

LGA names
No worries, mate. Good night. Hesperian 12:52, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Lists and articles
Can you, or anyone, tell me whether this is 'square' with general policy. I have not encountered a list with this sort of thing in the 'article space'. It was moved from the talk page. Yours thoughts or enlightenment? - Fred (talk) 15:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

List of Western Australian musicians
No, the steam-rolling juggernaut that is the Australia list deletion cabal rolls onward. I'm listing it at AfD now. Just kidding! -Steve (Slf67)talk 04:15, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * OK - I'm confused - are you two agreeing it should be deleted, or that it shouldn't? It fails my view that lists should have criteria such that the people in them should be notable because they are qualified to be in the list. If just about anybody can qualify to be in the list, it's not really a notable list, it should be a category. --Scott Davis Talk 12:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure why it's important to list them anywhere - just put the blue links in a Category:Western Australian musicians and don't list any in an article, or juts list the unquestionably famous international ones only, above the level that anyone feels they can add their next door neighbour to the list. --Scott Davis Talk 12:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Would you like to do the honours (prod or WP:AFD)? It's an interesting experience to watch the progress of one you nominated. --Scott Davis Talk 13:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

cadastral
thanks :) what are the maps you own of? I have been looking at lots of very detailed old maps at the National Library - they have a great collection there --Astrokey 44 12:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * speaking of wa, theres one here I just put up of the perth area --Astrokey 44 13:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Warm Welcome
thankyou for the warm welcome. FYI this is the IP address of Wiki ian. Should i be stating this in the talk page of the ip address? 220.253.101.49 13:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Project tags
Hahah.. oops. No, but I did catch a lot of town articles which need Infobox Australia Place added to them, so I will do them then! -- Chuq 12:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Fanks
I just asked M~d~. (If that is the coment you are referring to) Best regards, - Fred (talk) 13:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC) That is as I thought. Thanks again. Abuse later. For now, best regards - Fred (talk) 13:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Peter
Yeah, we had an edit conflict!. &mdash;Moondyne 14:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Jon Doust needs refs! &mdash;Moondyne 15:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Need DOB's and middle names for Doust & Holland. Any ideas? &mdash;Moondyne 03:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Indonesian language...
What do you think of this edit? Merbabu 20:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

List of Western Australian Musicians
Don't have a problem necessarily with changing the list over to a category - as it would enable articles with those bands to be directly linked.

Whilst I didn't create the article I have been busy updating links and establishing articles for some of the more notable bands on the list. I recognise that there a significant number of red links and whilst it is likely that some of those bands are potentially notable others aren't significant enough to warrant articles on Wikipedia and probably should be dropped off.

Essentially I think that it is a worthwhile suggestion Dan arndt 23:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Just another suggestion but rather than replace the list with a category outright - why not have both. The list providing a record of bands some of which may eventually have there own article (sort of a reference base at least for me) - eventually I would see it being removed but don't think it should be done immediately Dan arndt 00:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a particular fan of those 'over east' particularly when they try and dictate what everyone else should be doing - would appreciate any help you give, as per your suggestion. Dan arndt 00:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If you could do set up a sub-page for me that would be great - appreciate your advice & assistance - have got to get back and start doing some real work now Dan arndt 01:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all your work in setting that up - really appreciate it Dan arndt 04:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just because you were born in the 1950s doesn't mean that you can't appreciate the latest West Aussie bands - have made contributions to articles on The Stems, The Scientists and The Triffids which might be more of your era. Have fixed most of the links - appreciate the assistance Dan arndt 05:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Tas map
that map does show the counties. thanks for pointing it out --Astrokey 44 02:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * oh.. sorry when I said library before I meant the online library at, there are alot of high quality scans there. but it is closeby anyway & I have been there to get an old street map of brisbane that someone wanted --Astrokey 44 05:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Melaleuca, Tasmania
I have just created Melaleuca, Tasmania. (Interesting enough I see you just created Port Davey today - I didn't even notice until afterwards!) I think it would be a good article for Did you know on the front page, but I'd like to get a tiny bit more content into it first. If you can add to it then please do! -- Chuq 06:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I wonder if its presence on [] this map means anything? -- Chuq 06:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh damn I think you're right! - http://www.ga.gov.au/bin/gazd01?rec=31689 - Geoscience Australia shows it as HMSD which means a "Homestead, Outstation, Outcamp, Woolshed, or Aboriginal outstation", not as a locality (which Towns/Villages/etc would be) :( What a shame, I was looking for some little novelty such as the smallest populated town or something like that! -- Chuq 06:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem, I will be out later this evening anyway but I'll check on here when I get home anyway! -- Chuq 06:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism reverts
I know. Thanks. :) Kat, Queen of Typos 08:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: 203.45.114.175
No problem, User:HBC AIV helperbot is set to automatically remove blocked users from AIV ˉˉanetode╦╩ 08:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :)
No worries... yes, it is a little fun. My poor camera batteries died though in the middle of all that :( Orderinchaos78 10:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Seconds behind me. Now the whole community will know - I don't always use preview. Thanks for the talk page header. See you at the AfD :] - Fred (talk) 12:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Cat
Very droll. Cat in the morning, cat pee in the afternoon. I had the feline pedigrees all sorted and can't find them now. Yours are good and I will load my saved session to find mine. Thanks again for the nudge. - Fred (talk) 12:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Forestry and logging (Subcat), one or the other? - Fred (talk) Nice one. - Fred (talk) 13:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Logging is in, and in category forestry. I thought there was one "forestry practices or methods". BTW, Invited GW. - Fred (talk) 13:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC) :I was going to get around to that disambig, I found quite a few 'chips in my search on that term. feel free to change anyting i'm up ta. Or grab the ankles and meet you in the middle. I'll read what you said carefully, again. - Fred (talk) 14:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Me too. BTW even more work. Thanks for all. - Fred (talk) 14:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

oops
hullo. no, no offense. i think last time u 'talked' me (tas theatre, a while back) i replied a while later so easily missed (i think my reply was a vague 'maybe get around to it sometime', eminently missable). the email thing, don't check that often, (more likely to be contactable here) & might have accidently marked earlier emails as spam. but just check & i did get your most recent. i have been warned :). re domahidy, was just wondering if it was meant to be something else, meant to ask u but didn't get around to it. ben  &rArr; bsnowball 16:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry
Gotta go or will miss transport. Won't receive email until tomorrow. Sorry to leave you in the lurch. Hesperian 06:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Rottnest
With the vast resources you have available, can you tell me exactly where "Duck rock" is? &mdash;Moondyne 07:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ï'm waiting ... &mdash;Moondyne 07:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Found it now, thanks. I looked at that map before and couldn't see it.  Must be my old eyes. &mdash;Moondyne 07:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Vulcanology
If you are going to stalk me through my embarrassingly obscure old articles, at least learn how to format your additions properly ;P --Steve (Slf67)talk 23:07, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

List of Western Australia musicians
Do you know how to change the list to a category? Do we have to include the category on each band's article page?Dan arndt 08:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Have populated the Category - ended up including a number of musicans not covered on the list Dan arndt 02:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Bovine
I've been hitting reload on his contributions ever since he vandalised your user page. He seems to have stopped editing 20 minutes ago. If I'd got there first I would have exterminated him, as an account used solely for vandalism. But someone else got there first, and left a final warning, and there hasn't been anything since, so I'm obliged to honour the warning out of respect for whosoever posted it. :-( Hesperian 11:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Cowboys and indians
I would have named names, in true McCarthyesque style, but the stage included famous bollywood actor dea'shi' (cast as the lone gunman) in from the wilderness - righting lefts and slapping his palm to the plate in his temple. I think I will go back to my Japanese Anime characters. So it goes. - Fred (talk) 12:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC) "... See the cat; see the cradle?!" I will stump you one of these days. Picked a Serventy book, ''Aus. landforms''. Off to hobnob with the brethren, I can't comment of course. I have an apple for them. The trailer and the short can only be running up to a main attraction. Rgrds - Fred (talk)

Category:Western Australian musicians
Have provided an explanation of the category - at this stage all the linked articles already existed have enough work to do without creating new ones at this stage Was thinking of setting up a separate category for Western Australian bands rather than including them within the musician category - what do you think? Dan arndt 03:13, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * At this stage there is potentially over thirty existing articles that could be linked to a new category for West Australian bands Dan arndt 03:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Tasmania, roots and leaves
(whistling morricone theme)
 * WP:EL Greengo slunk into the middle of street, the sun at his back

"Who you callin' triple C, Pilgrim"
 * He took up a keg of Public opinion in one hand and a stat-gun in the other. To be continued ... Fred 07:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

West Coast capitalisation
Yeah, thats pretty much what I thought - now that the two are separated. Though since I posted that I have found that the disambiguation page West Coast is capitalised. Maybe we should leave it for a while! -- Chuq 09:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

GT
I'm sure I will ;-) Hesperian 12:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Knowledge thru music
required learning for the meetup, you are expected to give a rendition instead of buying drinks 8) Gnangarra 14:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
No problems, if it is blantant vandalism I usually go test2, then blatantvandal then block on the 3rd one. Especially if it is a registered username with no known legit edits. -- Chuq 06:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Maritime assessments
They appear to be functioning ok, but the overall statistical count won't update until the next bot run, tomorrow. -- Longhair\talk 10:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * No probs. On your other matter, re: email of yesterday, having been offline for some time recently, my email box is overwhelmed. I've since read it, and will keep my eye on the matter. -- Longhair\talk 10:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

xfd
Understand your comments & will be careful - wasn't meant as an insult - as an old boy from one of the other PGA schools you obviously appreciate the comment but "The four hose-persons of the apocalypse??" are you serious obviously not...anyhow thanks for the feedback Dan arndt 23:18, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * hopefully I will never get myself into trouble and have to call upon the 'four hose-persons' but nice to know there are some fellow west aussies that I can call upon for assistance if i need it Dan arndt 23:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

familial crime
Hi! Not an intrusion at all! (I like corresponding with you!) The article mentioned is just a stub ... But may grow to more ... Hope you're well! And, like it or not, your page remains on my watch list! ;-) --Keesiewonder talk 00:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * No, no. I don't actually read your talk page regularly ... nothing like that ... so I have no clue what you two have been talking about. It never hurts to have friends or trusted colleagues though ... So, I keep you in the ranks. --Keesiewonder talk 00:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * No worries what-so-ever! I know you know I'm not a troll ... Hope you have a good day! (For me, it's not Monday yet!) --Keesiewonder talk 01:06, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * FWIW, there is now Category:Mothers_wrongfully_accused_of_killing_their_babies. I would prefer a more concise name and one that allowed for the victim to be older than a baby, but ... whatever ... Of all the things to work on here that interest me, the naming of categories is relatively low! Keesiewonder talk 10:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I've just seen this. I'm not clinging defensively to the title I chose. I don't like it either! I'd be happy also to include victims that were older than babies, but I intend it for cases where the accusation is controversial. SlimVirgin suggested "falsely" or "wrongfully", because the courts had overturned the convictions, but ideally this category could have included cases like Lindy Chamberlain, Sally Clark, and Angela Cannings while they were still in jail, if the category (and Wikipedia) had existed at the time! But it wouldn't include cases where a mother is convicted of infanticide and nobody except her husband and mother thinks that she's innocent. Anyway, if someone moves the category to something more appropriate, I won't object. How about Category:Controversial accusations of filicide? It sounds awful! ElinorD (talk) 12:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll let you deal with that category parent thing, and I'll watch and learn. Keesiewonder talk 10:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmmm ... you may be starting to lose me on my Monday morning. Articles that are orphans and articles that are categorized with categories that aren't subordinate to a parent category are different problems to me. I've been tagging a lot of articles as orphan while assigning categories to uncategorized articles ... so ... :-( ... I don't quite understand the wisdom you're trying to share with me. I'm getting ready for work now ... will check back later ... Keesiewonder talk 11:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Catholics
Good God! Yet another regionalisation of Australia. I think there's enough on that wbsite to sort out the merge issues, it just needs some to do it. I'll add it to my list. &mdash;Moondyne 03:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've seen that but there's not much there for what I want.  The art is pretty much finished I just need to tidy up the refs. and fix the map formatting.  One day. &mdash;Moondyne 03:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Regions
Have forwarded; check you're email and let me know if that's not what you meant. Hesperian 03:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Rivals, is we?
I almost thought as much, but apparently not :P--cj | talk 07:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I noticed your problem in the West. Because of users like that, I have my own trust issues with new users. Hence why I raised it. And I was only half-joking about rivalry; while I'm sure we'll put on a better breaky for Jimbo, we're always here to help you Sandgropers out :P Happy editing,--cj | talk 08:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Duck test
Email sent. &mdash;Moondyne 02:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Indian Ocean Airport deletions
They're still Airports in Australia, just not located on the mainland. -- Longhair\talk 10:56, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I saw the original intention as well, but it just doesn't work. Categories should aim for six or more entries to be considered worthwhile IMHO. Btw, another topic, you being our resident Tasmania expert and all. Where is Triabunna? -- Longhair\talk 11:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Never mind. Found what I needed... 88 km north east of Hobart. We don't yet have an article on it though for you Tasmanian minded folk :) -- Longhair\talk 11:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Finda
I know it's about NZ and not WA, but, do you know anything about Finda? I've nominated it for an AfD ... but am not completely committed to it being gone. It's just that the article history that remains is only filled with attempts to remove it ... Keesiewonder talk 23:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Fun stuff
Oh what joy there is in neutral verifiable articles on Wikipedia... :| Orderinchaos78 03:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Help request
Would you know where to start with this issue?--Fancyfootwork 11:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Fancyfotowork Help-me, please The article Seasons have a problem: when I choose to Hide "Contents" the figure "http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Seasons.svg/266px-Seasons.svg.png" stay overlayed. I suspect that my Browser ( Firefox 2.0.0.3 ). Best Regards, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JCOlivie http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usário:JCOlivie


 * I'm sort of around for another hour or so - what can I do? --Scott Davis Talk 12:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Re Indonesian issues
Hi SatuSuro,
 * ''...would like to put my hand up as someone who was trying to WP Indonesian tag all articles I could find, as well as do a big category sort...

Whenever you're able!


 * ''...please dont be suprised when I actually get lots of spare time in the next week or so - that I send a long series of questions!

I'm no expert on Indonesia; only passing by some related articles having found Indonesia topics. Before starting, I hadn't seen Life in Indonesia (which looks like a compact version of Indonesia topics), so I'm not sure which folk would prefer (if not both). I've decided to forge on, though, since I can try polishing some of the formatting here and there. Thanks for your message, David Kernow (talk) 13:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Gawd
Ahh.. the account was obviously created only to target a single user. Hence my block. Regarding my user and talk pages, I agree, it is a bit daunting. I'm afraid I have to leave it that way for a few more days till some issues have been resolved.--thunderboltz(TALK) 15:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * lol, thanks. :-) --thunderboltz(TALK) 15:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Offline, off air, out of contact
'''SatuSuro's phone line was cut by a trencher 22nd March 2007. Return date unknown.''' '''SatuSuro cannot access email/gmail or this page on a regular basis - and cannot reply to messages placed here. Better to wait until return rather than posting messages here as they will be unanswered''' SatuSuro 08:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Enjoy the peace and quiet while you can mate. Cheers.   &mdash;Moondyne 08:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear about the cut. RahadyanS 23:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Perth Meetup
Interested? Very, but sadly I won't be able to make it. I'm 16 so that might complicate things anyway, but I'll hang around WP:WA and WP:PERTH, I hadn't thought to look for them before. James086 Talk 11:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

HV
Its looking likely, you can lodge at WP:RFPP if you want personally I'd probably knock it back at the moment as "not enough activity" but it'd be a judgement call. Gnangarra 13:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It more likely going to reflect throwing water on petrol fire, but we'll see what happens. Gnangarra 13:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I got to see what happens while doing a course with the WAFB at Forrestfield, oh boy you should have heard the dog bark. Gnangarra 13:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

MiniProject PSA
Hello, you have been invited to join the Public Schools Association (PSA) MiniProject. More information on the project can be found at its homepage - User:Twenty Years/PSA. We would love to have you on board, thanks for your time Twenty Years 14:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

KeresH
KeresH is a new contributor who seems to share some common interests with you. You might like to make them welcome. Hesperian 03:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi SatuSuro. Thanks for the welcome. I'm sure I'll figure out the Wiki grammar/format soon, but in the mean time, my humblest thanks for the inclusion in your circle of "people of like mindedness".

"Them"/they btw, is actually a "she".

Like most places I've lived, I find I'm more interested in the specifics than the locals. Such is the case with my new home Tasmania. My partner (also a woman - and same-sex migration to Australia could be an extensive entry unto itself) and I live in Bagdad, Tasmania, in what I've heard refered to as "Deliverance Country". We actually enjoy our litttle slice of bush quite a bit and have found the "no Greens" neighbors changed their tunes when faced with the real thing (especially since we let their grand-kids come and play on the computer and take them for walks in the bush).

As the editor of Green Tasmania magazine, I'd be interested in anything you might want to say about the early days of the Wilderness Society. As for current issues, I'll be at the anti-plup mill rally this Sunday in Launcestion, and I may be focusing the next edition of the magazine on the plup mill fiasco.

May you live in interesting times.

Cheers, KeresH 10:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC) (pronounced "Series H")

Surat Basin
Hi SatuSuro, No worries, I think we've sorted out that it's another Wiki glitch. BTW I've now put myself down to go to the Kings Park breakfast, so looking forward to meeting some of you guys who have been around much longer than me. --Zamphuor 14:50, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Cricket in Australia
Hi. Cricket in Australia is the new Australian collaboration. Please help to improve it in any way you can. --Scott Davis Talk 13:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Darling Scarp/Range/Hills/Plateau, etc
Seems to me that scarp is the best name for the relatively abrupt western edge of increased elevation produced by the Darling Fault, but then there is a broad zone of hills (couldn't call them mountains) that slowly merge into a plateau about 30-40 km to the east. Its this broad band that gets called the Darling Range on maps. Although it doesn't drop down in average elevation to the east, 'range' would still seem a reasonable term. Thus Darling Scarp would be the western edge of the Darling Range. The Darling Fault (yes it caused it all, so it really is at fault) is distinct again because it extends way beyond the scarp and ranges, north and south and into the earth. --Zamphuor 13:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that's the way to go. I give some thought to penning something for Darling Range, unless you want to do it. Might put a note on Darling Scarp talk page first. Cheers --Zamphuor 14:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

WP exploration
It's a problem with the WP Australia template. I'll take a look in a few minutes. Thanks for letting me know. -- Longhair\talk 03:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Fixed. -- Longhair\talk 03:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Di section
An autopsy like that need a little light relief at the end. OR IS IT!?! Haven't you ever noticed that the Piscean Warlords took over Scotland at the same time that golf was invented? Any good with lists ? Ta, for the Bunacs and Koonyips references. - Fred 07:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC) I have seen that; about to go and include that in the article. Swimming cats. Cats like fish but not wet paws. Fred 12:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

AWB
Yeah I thought it was finally time to get rid of an actually quite commonly used redirect which is Wikigrammatically incorrect to start with (many of them are actually my fault as I introduced them into articles by copying them into stubs), and putting in the reflist standard and removing manual LGA and year links in infoboxes behind them. Orderinchaos 09:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Could well do so ... also Yilliminning, although I'm not sure if it is a ghost town as I think it was cut off at the knees before it got to develop to begin with. 65 of 286 to go... Orderinchaos 10:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Done (finally). :) Orderinchaos 12:14, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

See also's
When I say I dislike see also's, I mean things like this -   - where the links are already included elsewhere in the article at the proper location! In your additions to the cricket page, they are useful, as they serve as further reading when there isn't actually a section in the article yet (and there should be in the "final" version)! Citing online sources is fine - so long as they are well known online sources (ie. not blogs, forums. Nothing wrong with online news sources though - at least they are easy to verify!) -- Chuq 13:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Stuff
List of caves in Western Australia is back. The Australian Speleological Federation have put a Karst Index Database online, with names and rough areas but not precise locations. I've taken a list from there. Hesperian 05:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Lake Margaret
Hi SatuSuro. I hope I wasn't too presumptuous with the additions -- I noticed a few errors in the existing text and the fact that it was a bit out dated. I also decided to take the opportunity to go more in depth with Lake Margaret's history. Today was my first Wikipedia edit so I'll get the hang of things a bit better as I go along. I simply didn't have time to fully get to the heritage listing and future options -- as murky as they are -- but I'll get around to that in the next couple of days and hopefully add a photo or two. Travis Tiddy 12:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the feedback. I read through the intro information and then started playing around with formatting my talk page -- I put the intro info back again.


 * There is a bit of an issue re: referencing the history of Lake Margaret. There is little acknowledged existing literary resources about the place. IE: It is widely known that the lower power station was opened in 1931 (during the depression no less), and that it was decomissioned in the early 1990s (possibly 1994) -- and so I corrected the existing Wiki information as previously no dates were stated. Do I need to reference this information? I'll look at other referencing techniques on other pages and see if I can apply it to the Lake Margaret entry.


 * Also note on the Lake Marg discussion page I'm wondering if the title is a little limiting -- take a look and let me know what you think. Regards Travis Tiddy 23:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for your support, SatuSuro. I realized I made a mistake that would keep people who might support me in an awkward situation, and I probably should learn the stuff better. I'll still be around in the meantime, and probably become a better admin when that time comes anyway. Rigadoun (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Historic Ships of Australia
Back again after a lengthy absence! I created this category to get some comments - there does not appear to be a direct equivant in the WikiProject: Australian maritime history categories, have you any other suggestions? Just Ships of Australia, maybe? Navarine 13:58 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Categories
It isn't in the music section is it? I've had that battle before. Put me out of my misery. I'm curious to learn what you've discovered now ;) -- Longhair\talk 11:01, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I see Category:Members_of_the_Australian_House_of_Representatives_by_Division. Is that it? -- Longhair\talk 11:09, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * At least one of them was deleted last year (see Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_June_8. I guess the same argument applies to other similar underpopulated categories. There's quite a few though. It might be worth raising this issue at WP:AWNB to guage community opinion. It's a lot of work to list them all :) -- Longhair\talk 12:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The problem with tagging them as underpopulated - some categories here cannot be populated. Take the example of the Division of Bennelong... As JROBBO said at the link above, it "will never go beyond two people at least for the near future".


 * Some of those categories cannot be populated further because there's simply no content for them to be populated with. It smells of overcategorisation to me, but then again, some of those categories have a decent amount of content within. What to do hey? I might sleep on this one and think it over some more tomorrow, but I'm happy to discuss this one further. I'll archive your post as requested also :) -- Longhair\talk 13:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * ...and I see you've found the Tasmania assessments that are now functional. Only Tasmania=yes is functional for now. I'll get the remaining parameters working for the project tomorrow sometime. -- Longhair\talk 13:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You can still use Hobart=yes, and the abbreviated tas=yes and TAS=yes, but they won't be counted towards assessments until I get back into it in the a.m. I'm retiring for the night :) -- Longhair\talk 13:39, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Ships->ships
it's done. &mdash;Moondyne 14:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC) +r Orderinchaos 08:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Impact crater cat?
Thanks for you thoughts. I have been thinking of the possibility of setting up a category for impact craters and related articles, as there are so many of them, and I seem to spend lots of time editing them. But as yet I haven't investigated what is involved. It'd also be good to make up a template for craters to put basic data in a tabulated box such as is done with lakes. But again, haven't yet worked out the mechanics of doing this. Will look into it sometime. Anyway, enough for now, I'm off out for the rest of the day.--Zamphuor 05:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Pigsonthewing
Pigs on the Wing is a Pink Floyd song. Andy Mabbet is a (I assume) Pink Floyd fan. I hope this helps clear up any misconceptions regarding jokes about his username :) -- Longhair\talk 10:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

another DY sock
Sats what your opinion of Gnangarra 11:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

another DY sock
Sats what your opinion of Gnangarra 11:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Tasmania
I activated all Tasmania WikiProject parameters early this morning, circa 8am. You're behind the times :) What was it about QLD we were discussing? You might need to re-remind me on that one. -- Longhair\talk 12:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I've also noticed some server lag today. Things aren't running like they used to that's for sure. You mean the politics categories? I think the matter needs to be raised with the relevant WikiProject. I'm no expert on politics, and the categories were created by a well meaning editor, I'm sure there's some method to the madness :) Enjoy your break. There's no Easter rest for the wicked here :) -- Longhair\talk 12:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I noticed last night while perusing my edit count history that my talk page posts had your username at the very top. This place sure will be a lot quieter without you around :) Play it safe over Easter won't you. -- Longhair\talk 12:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Perth Meetup 2
Due to a foul-up, my WP email page was not activated which has now been fixed. As noted on the Meetup talk page, could you please email me with the details you'd like to have placed on your nametag. Firstnames and Usernames as a minimum, Surnames accommodated on request. Cheers, Thewinchester (talk) 14:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:TAS
Fiddle to your hearts content, then move it over the top of the existing WikiProject whenever you're ready. -- Longhair\talk 12:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Datadawai Airport
There is very little information in that particular article. You may also remove the prod message if you add more content/improve the article. The reason I have cited it as "not notable" enough is because there is a simple lack of information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reputation (talk • contribs) 01:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Tas schools
Very happy to talk at WP:TAS Garrie 03:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * What did you think of User:Longhair/WPTAS? -- Longhair\talk 07:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I came across this editor last night, being a jerk. Already watching :) -- Longhair\talk 03:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

WA Nat
Glad you liked it. I'm on a bit of a sources jaunt at the moment. People are generally in the habit of creating links to notable material, but most of them never think to link to notable material in their references. Recently I've been making a point of linking to all the notable people, books and journals in reference lists, and creating articles on anything that comes up red.

I'm about to do Journal of the Royal Society of Western Australia. Plant and Soil and Oecologia are also in the pipeline. Hesperian 03:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Happy to be of service in keeping your stress levels done. Enjoy. Hesperian 04:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Goodonyamate. Hesperian 04:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, I don't know. as well as disambig we now have hndis and geodis. There might be others I don't know about. Hesperian 05:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Au revoir. Hesperian 05:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
....(belatedly) for the pointer about the South East Asia Military History project.

As for Konfrontasi, I'm continually bewildered by the lack of logic in article names, which for me comes down to Wikipedia policy: the most common and NPOV name. Grant | Talk 05:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I am planning to, but not 100% sure I will, attend the meetup with Jimbo. If I can't make it, it would be good to catch up with you. Grant | Talk 05:58, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Strange things going on at Port Arthur massacre
An IP posting now as fact what we then heard as rumours. In light of current events, I don't have the words to say anything else. --Shirt58 12:43, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * From I can't see too much wrong with these edits - nearly all of them are slight wording improvements. Orderinchaos 12:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

WP Australia banner
Hi SatuSuro. Did you mean to add WP Australia to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject AFL/Quiz? I removed it, because there didn't seem much point allowing rating of a wikiproject quiz, but maybe I am missing something. JPD (talk) 13:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Gotcha now. I've put it back, with class=NA and AFL=yes. Thanks! JPD (talk) 13:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Indonesia collaboration
Hello everybody. I’ve updated the current Indonesia collaboration to > > > Central Java < < <
 * New collaboration...

This article’s not in a very good condition but such a significant part of Indonesia, the cultural heart of the Javanese. Please contribute! Thanks to all those contributed to the previous collaboration Sidoarjo mud flow particularly Indon. For the next collaboration in a fortnight, I’d like to try something different. Let’s chose a stub rather than an already well-developed article. Here is a list of Indonesian stubs to choose (there’s two pages). Please check the article's importance rating – let's chose an important and significant article that will appeal to a broad range of people. Please do not choose an obscure and/or esoteric topic that is not very important. Please place your nomination here.
 * The next collaboration...

Any questions, please let me know. Kind regards --Merbabu 05:02, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

awb
Should sign up for it :) Even though you have to upgrade it literally every week or two, it is very useful when you have to get a mass job done like this. My goal's to get all the Perth suburbs in, then get people to review it, then do the WA towns and then same (it's all judgement calls) Orderinchaos 03:51, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

2003 George Temple Poole Award
Project: Western Australian Maritime Museum Architect: Cox Howlett + Bailey Woodland The Western Australian Maritime Museum is an exceptional work of architecture produced for a highly significant and sensitive site. As urban design, the building artfully manipulates form, scale and expression at many locations in order to address the complex cultural and physical context and complex brief of the modern museum.

and this is not my last word on the matter. Fred 05:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Contribs
Yes I feel somewhat responsible about Central Java. That is why I have contributed again :-) Meursault2004 04:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Stuff
Hesperian 05:11, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Re the quiet talk page: don't jinx it please, it is delightful.
 * Re the red links, I'm afraid I've voted with me feet on that one; check your email.

Solo River
Yes you are indeed right. But Solo River is I think the most common English name. It is evidenced by the lemma Solo River in Encyclopaedia Britannica. However, we can add the Javanese/Indonesian name between parentheses as bengawan means "great (river)" in Javanese. Meursault2004 08:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Tagging
Hey, sorry for not tagging new WikiProject Indonesia/Monitoring sub pages. They are still half-baked. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 09:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I have removed text in the categ. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 11:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

politics ratings
hey, sorry if I did the wrong thing, I figured all Government Leaders (premiers and Prime Ministers) would be either high or top rating to the politics wikiproject, remember we're talking about less then 10% of the articles currently with the political tag (which is obviously going to be no where near all of them. Anyway I will of course stop until I hear further, although as you've probably seen, I've almost finished the Premiers. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 11:02, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * looking at the lists now it's surprising how disproportionately many government leaders in Australia have first names beginning with J :) WikiTownsvillian 11:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi SatuSuro, "|importance=high" is for Wikiproject Australia, I was rating for Wikiproject Aust politics... I don't think we're on the same page here. I was rating for THIS wikiproject rating system, not Wiki Aust... does this address your issue?  Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 12:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

It is not for both...

Eric Willis is now of High importance to wikiproject Australian politics but not Wikiproject Australia same with all the articles I've done, the "|politics-importance=high" rating does not effect the Australian wikiproject, another example: Albert Dunstan is rated (and was already rated) as of Mid-importance to Wikiproject Australia, but after my edit it is now rated as of high importance to wikiproject aust. politics but has not changed the wikiproject aust rating. I hope this clarifies this for you. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 12:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I have adjusted Eric Willis for you to show how it works. Now if I have missed the gist of the conversation somehow just call me a D*head and set me straight. '''I am posting to both so that we are all singing from the same hymn sheet.-- VS talk 13:07, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay Alec - well I'm coming in sort of half way here (but I must admit I did see the initial discussion with you SatuSuro) - so I will stick my (it ain't glass) jaw out and do my best as follows
 * 1) I agree with SS on the rating (in most cases) for politicians - I would say Top was reserved for the absolute most important ones, EG Robert Menzies, John Curtin, Edmund Barton because they are critical to understanding Australia, High is for most Prime Ministers, John Howard, Bob Hawke etc, I say most because a couple of them only had the job from breakfast until morning tea (like the fellow after Harold Holt took a long swim) and they are not of high importance, Premiers in most cases (probably all) (but Don Dunstan and a couple of others might be an exception) are of Mid importance and all the other politicians would be low (except for perhaps the Don Chipp, Pauline Hanson types).
 * 2) However I agree with you on the possibility of double grading an article in the same stream of code (I think this is the converation you are having with SS) but I do not think you should be using this code - as for Eric Willis ...    but rather use this code in full because that allows the Bot's and the scripts to work properly...  


 * PS I'll just run the Bot through the table at WikiProject Australian politics to see what the tallies are.-- VS talk 13:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi VS, fair enough, in point number one are you referring to wiki Aust politics or wiki Aust? I disagree with you on what is important to wikiproject Aust politics, but understand these things are done by consensus, should I reverse what I've done or wait for a consensus at wikiproject aust politics on how to rate leaders before changing it? Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 13:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
 * (after double edit conflict) Discussion about how the importance scale applies to WP:AUSPOL is better held at that project's talk page. Otherwise, Alec is correct with regards to the importance ratings being separate for WP:AUS and WP:AUSPOL, and has been doing a marvellous job assessing articles. I must disagree with Steve on including the hidden comment in the code; this is simply superfluous text, and insofar as I'm aware, has no affect on any bots or scripts.--cj | talk 13:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * (posted to here also) Again as I said before I am just in on the periphery of this (politics is not my interest in terms of assesment) but it is obviously important for me to confirm again that the part that CJ indicates above as superflous is most definitely not (I have learned via errors that are caused particularly with the script that he and I are both using from Outriggr) The break created by the comment allows the script to separate its taks and if not included the Outriggr script adjusts the importance for both the parent and the child project.-- VS  talk 13:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi SatuSuro, thank you for picking me up and slowing things down, and please be assured that I will fix whatever needs to be fixed, even if it takes a week to fix a days worth of edits as I think this scripting thing will :) Good night, WikiTownsvillian> 14:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi SatuSuro, I've been reformatting away, so far the PMs and the Qld Prems, is what I've been doing so far OK with you? WikiTownsvillian 09:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm back
Any change of plans? &mdash;Moondyne 13:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)