User talk:JarrahTree/Archive 37

BLP
In all honesty, I'm starting to get tired of BLP. It detracts from improving other major articles that badly need rewriting. I would rather spend time improving a high priority article than trying to source 10 BLPs. People are starting to agree in the other projects I'm in. Arsonal (talk) 08:34, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Ali al-Uraidhi ibn Ja'far al-Sadiq
Ali al-Uraidhi ibn Ja'far al-Sadiq is the ancestor of many of the wali sanga. This is made quite obvious if you entered the Ali al-Uraidhi ibn Ja'far al-Sadiq wikipedia page under the descendants section. I am merely seeking to tie the articles together to give the reader a greater overall historical picture. Hope that answers your query. If not...Do not hesitate to message me again.Artefactual (talk) 08:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello
Hi SatuSuro, I'm happy to assist with answering any questions you may have, my schedule is just unpredictable. Probably the best bet is to leave me messages on my talk page then if I don't reply back straight away, send me a message using the 'Email this user' link reminding me! Sadly real life has got the better of me over the last year or so! -- Chuq (talk) 00:46, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Wow
Hey thanks. :) Yeah quite a few of the ethnic groups and islands have to be disammed...I'm guessing pretty regularly. --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 06:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Good morning
Just browsing through the Mining towns of Western Australia book, its great fun to read and add information at the same time. Thanks for the praise once more, mate! Calistemon (talk) 00:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, there is lots left to do when it comes to mining in WA. Except for gold, may be, we have only just scratched the surface. Uranium mining is, of course, a controversial subject. In regards to other minerals, it would be great to have an article on every mine on the Departments annual map. But also, historical mines, like Big Bell, which you yourself asked me about before, should have an article, too. Calistemon (talk) 00:33, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, Big Bell is high on my list. Shame you didn't get any pictures when you were up there. Thats one thing we are very short off. Unfortunatly, a trip around the state this winter to take some is out of question, not going to hit the road with a newborn! As of the uranium, I saw a bit of the politics when I was up at Wiluna, the Lake Way deposit, then owned by Nova, later by Torro, was then in the same hands as the gold mine and there was a lot of talk about it picking up soon. Nothing much happened since, I think. Calistemon (talk) 00:45, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Has it arrived or still waiting? (newborn) SatuSuro 00:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Not yet, exactly one month to go. Knocking off now, mate, to pick up some baby furniture! I've taken the Gold mining in Western Australia article a bit further, have a read and fix what you think needs fixing. Have a great day, Calistemon (talk)

About time?
I do something else related to Tasmania? The Hobart casino could be an interesting topic or the 1967 fires. — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   00:57, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Is your wikiED not working? Anyway, why is suburbs of Lonnie a subcat? — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   03:44, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Geology of Tasmania
You are welcome to link anything you like in this Geology of Tasmania article, Many more place names and mountains will now exist as articles since I made it  like Savage River, Tasmania. I did not deliberately avoid linking local features. I used the policy to only link once on the first occurrence, but that may be too few times. The more interesting geology is in the mountainous uninhabited areas, so there are less articles on these places. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:31, 6 February 2010 (UTC)


 * One complication is that many of the rock units are named after places. This means that something like: "Mathinna Group" is a name in itself, but is also named after Mathinna.  Mathinna Group could become a redirect to Geology of Tasmania, or could expand to its own article.  SO what should we link?  By the way Mathinna Group rocks are over much of North East Tasmania. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:16, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Big Bell Gold Mine
I've started Big Bell Gold Mine, still needs more work but I'm going to walk the dog now! Calistemon (talk) 10:08, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Star
Take a look at what I just found. -> Template:Death_Star Might be worth appropriating along with the guidelines you found the other day. -Pollinosisss (talk) 07:30, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Hobart suburbs
Doubtless on your watchlist, but I have just asked a couple of questions on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tasmania. Regards (Crusoe8181 (talk) 05:57, 9 February 2010 (UTC)).

Understand
I thought I can do anything in my user page.Anyway thanks for warned me! I will fix it.One more thing,I'm here not for playing but to share my knowledge with other people. sincerely T-1000i (talk) 5.00, 11 February 2010 (WIT)

Hotels project
You are correct, the project looks as if its been out out action for some time now, all the major hotels of the world were not even in the project. I'm Just adding talk page templates to hotel articles at my own leasure. Wiki ian 11:20, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Mining pictures
If you have some historical, or currend, mining images, that would be awesome. Its two things the articles really lag right now, one is pictures and the other a Geology section. I've provided a few pictures but I don't dare stumble into geology, way out of my league! And my in-house geologist is not interessted! Calistemon (talk) 10:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * There is a comms cat Gold Mines in Western Australia I've created, which is also linked to some articles here. If you could place them in there that would be great. Calistemon (talk) 10:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry to butt in. Do you mean commons:category:Gold mines in Australia?  I can't see a WA one.  –Moondyne 10:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you're right, must have been wishfull thinking that we would have enough pictures for a sub-category one day. Calistemon (talk) 10:32, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * First one up http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GreatBoulderPerserveranceSat.jpg SatuSuro 12:35, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Good idea, the sub-category, I moved all WA gold mining categories and pictures there. Have you got more pictures coming? Calistemon (talk) 05:56, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Marine Salvage
Thank you for your rating of Marine Salvage. You rated it as Start class which is defined as:
 * An article that is developing, but which is quite incomplete and, most notably, lacks adequate reliable sources. The article has a usable amount of good content but is weak in many areas, usually in referencing. Quality of the prose may be distinctly unencyclopedic, and MoS compliance non-existent; but the article should satisfy fundamental content policies such as notability and BLP, and provide enough sources to establish verifiability.

Your judgement seems to place this in the lowest class articles. Please justify your rating by listing all the specific things that need changing. Perhaps you could even go farther and make constructive edits yourself. Rlsheehan (talk) 19:16, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reply. Rlsheehan (talk) 00:11, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Indonesian National Revolution
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Indonesian National Revolution/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:42, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Furneaux group
All I can suggest is putting the flora in a separate section with a heading, and also add the flora section to every island's article. Just about every island with a name in the Furneaux group has an article. My contributions have been meagre, with some aerial photos taken as I flew to and from Tasmania! I suppose shortly there will be lots of changes on my watch list! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:41, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

It would have been good if you could add to commons:category:aerial photographs of Tasmania! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:02, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

CIA activities in Indonesia
I saw this and groaned - but on second thoughts, it's a good garbage bin for all the CIA conspiracies/involvement sections that go into the Indonesia articles. --Merbabu (talk) 06:45, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Borobudur...
When I visited, I was shocked how most tourists had no respect for the monument, touching statues and reliefs whenever they went, some even poking with their metal umbrellas at Buddha statues. Despite the signs everywhere not to do so. If the authorities do not get serious with enforcing the law and rules there and spreading awareness with education campaigns, I am afraid that not much will be left in future of this monument. Gryffindor (talk) 15:53, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

George McTurnan Kahin
George McTurnan Kahin --Merbabu (talk) 23:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Tagging
Don't take it personally. Tagging one way or another is not mandated anywhere and it's up to the project to decide what and how they are going to tag. The tags are useful only to that project anyway. This particular project opted not to tag anything outside of article space. All the best to all others that decided to tag categories & other stuff. Hopefully they find it useful. Renata (talk) 02:24, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Reply requested
Please see here and comment if you have anything to add. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:54, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Conspiracy? I honestly don't understand your most recent post to my talk. You may well disagree with my CfR nominations, but they have some rationale behind them. They certainly are not conspiratorial, as no one else is involved. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Indonesian universities
I'll do what I can to populate the red links with some rudimentary information. Thanks for the heads up. - Bob K | Talk 00:01, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Hobart Airport

 * Hello again SatuSuro. This article is currently under a GA review. One of the questions asked of me was to expand the history section. I have looked everywhere for early History and pre-history of the Airport without luck. I've even tried the archives in town without luck. Do you know of anywhere I can get such information. Regards Wiki ian 08:02, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, certain odds & ends were found. But not much specific, with what i have now i can expand the history section - but not much:( I feel like I've hit a dead end with this article. Good news however, with my trip to the state archives on the w/end i dug up old Hobart highway plans from the 60s + 70s. I'm currently in the process of creating my next article, which should be simular to this one. Cheers, Wiki ian 10:26, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * hmm... thinking it might need some help ... — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   10:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

A new wikipedian
She's here, mate, born at St John of God Hospital, Murdoch last night. A little small, 2.8 kg but healthy. I wonder whether she will become a wikipedian one day, too! Calistemon (talk) 07:18, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * We'll soon know if we start seeing additions like ";;;;lllkjaaaaaaaa" at random WA articles :P (Congrats btw) Orderinchaos 10:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Mum is well, too. In all the excitement, I forgot to take a few pictures of the operating theatre to upload them to commons! A golden opportunity missed! A well, next time! Calistemon (talk) 00:13, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, SatuSuro...
...for your message of welcome. Being technologically illiterate, I am on a steep learning curve. Imago blue 04:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi again SatuSoro,

(1) Sorry about the archives, in my confusion I thought I was answering on your own page. The mass of information can be bewildering. (2) See (1). Think this is sorted. (3) See above. (4) Refs already added. I am more interested in the literary side of ELGW, as he did not have any formal qualifications as an anthropologist.

Two questions: (a) does the ELGW article no longer count as a stub, and if so should I try to change this classification or will that happen at some stage without my help?

(b) I'd like to expand the 'Dorothy Auchterlonie' article a little (she spent 20 years researching Grant Watson's life, among other things) but in her academic work she was better known as Dorothy Green (Australian author and literary critic). I see there are functions for redirecting a search for 'Dorothy Green' to the right page, and for disambiguation, but am not sure how to work them in conjunction. Can I request Wikipedia to do this?

Thanks again, hope this doesn't seem too obtuse. Imago blue 05:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Me again: Kenneth Seaforth MacKenzie is another writer that I admire and feel has been unduly neglected. And many thanks for disambiguating Dorothy. Again two questions: have I got my signature in more or less the right places now? And on this particular spin of the interweb I see I have tagged onto the end of someone else's post to you, but I can't immediately see how to start a new one?

I will try uploading a pic of Grant Watson in Perth in 1910 when I am allowed (ie autoconfirmed) Imago blue 02:44, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes sir
Your input is crucial :)  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  04:54, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Afterlife
At this point, I would revert Aaron's additions right away. He seems to be editing based on teaching the religion. I'm a Baha'i myself, but on Wikipedia, a Wikipedian first, but Aaron hasn't got that point yet. The current small section that I added based on secondary sources is all that is warranted for inclusion. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 12:03, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Re: GGS
OK, done. I want to be as far away from WA school articles as possible. However, the last 51 edits to the GGS article took nearly two years, so it doesn't seem to be that heavily edited. I've added a warning to the user's page. However, aren't certain private schools moving high school down to year 7, so there *would* be six mentor groups for each house? Graham 87 15:22, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Need your memory for something
Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_March_15 - I vaguely remember you objecting to some of the contents of this category, in particular the museums, at the time it was created around 2007/08 (by 20Y I think) - if you can remember any more than me, your advice on the CfD would be much appreciated. I'm actually thinking the category should be disbanded as it's too diffuse. Orderinchaos 17:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Indonesian military
Hi SatuSuro. I never believe that linking things twice is too much. It's when it's linked in every line that it becomes a problem. Divisions of Indonesia? - you're addressing the way each country category is named. See Category:Divisions (military formations) by country - each category is named 'Divisions of X.' If you believe this is a problem, you'd need to address it regarding more than Indonesia. Maybe raise it at WT:MILHIST? Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 08:34, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey you may be able to help me. Do you know when the Diporogro Division, Siliwangi Division, Brawijaja Division etc (please excuse my spelling) all became KODAMs? Is there a list of all the divisions around in the late 1940s, 1950s etc? Buckshot06 (talk) 08:37, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I would like that very much indeed. I would really like to create articles for the Diponegoro Division and the Brawijaya Division - as you can probably see from my redlinks - but I'm lacking good sources. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thankyou very much. Would very much appreciate any help you can give. Buckshot06 (talk) 08:47, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks SatuSuro. That is indeed the way I like to start stubs - about 2 references per line of text. But it was easy given the Cornell Paper. Do I need to remind you again today to look for further information? Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 01:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much SatuSuro. Looking forward to hearing from you once you've digested the info a bit more. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 09:19, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind words. Now if you could just persuade somebody to fund me :) Buckshot06 (talk) 09:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * So right! Look forward to hearing from you after the weekend. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:35, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks SatuSuro. The perils of being a PhD student!! One person who did a presentation I saw said her distraction tool was Google Earth. Mine is wikipedia. I've been meaning to thank you for the references, and I should have done so before now. Could we just agree that it's important, and I will follow them up, but maybe not right now? You would have the chance to find some more if you could as well. I think most of the military regional command articles have the various Div -> T&T transition dates in them already. I would like to focus on Iraqi security forces for a while. I pick that as one of the most important state militaries in the world right now, barring the US and China which gets lots of attention. Buckshot06 (talk) 02:02, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Fremantle isn't East Fremantle
Hi and thank you for your welcome.

I was just reading the Fremantle page and found a couple of things that I think should be edited.

Under the heading, Leisure and Recreation, it is suggested that Cottesloe Beach is 10 minutes from Fremantle by train, this might be true (I think it's more like 15 mins). However I'd hate a tourist to think they could catch a train to Cottesloe train station and be at the beach, which is about a km away, over a rather large hill.

Also towards the bottom under the heading Sport. It says that Fremantle hosts 2 WAFL football teams, South Fremantle and East Fremantle. Actually East Fremantle is its own municipality and not part of Fremantle. Call me fussy but I believe that the referral to East Fremantle should be deleted. It is, after all, listed on East Fremantle's page.

What do you think, with me being a newby and all? Woddawik (talk) 16:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

You're gonna love...
...this. --Merbabu (talk) 11:07, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Asia/Oceania
I understand that most countries do not belong in both the Asia and Oceania categories, but the issue is that Western New Guinea, while being culturally and geographically Oceanic, was annexed by Indonesia, an Asian country, and has been ruled by Indonesia ever since. The Western New Guinea articles are thus a unique case. Asarelah (talk) 01:02, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Not really unique try Turkey Gnangarra 01:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Userpage
That's better! — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   02:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Congrats on your commons RFA :) — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   06:39, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Only the five years :) Don't think of the amount of hours ... and still not keen on RFA on here. — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   09:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Its a jungle in here - I dont like the monkeys and turkeys - they mix their categories SatuSuro 10:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Especially the yellow monkeys? Anyway, I'm off, just as you dish up tea. — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   10:36, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Does Simon Youl qualify for the People from Launceston cat? — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   09:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I think Longford, Tasmania is probably going too far, however. Enjoy your Easter :) — Aaroncrick  ( talk )   05:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

So many ignorant mainlanders never heard of launie!- Aaroncrick

yup
... too long. Longer than a piece of string. or enough rope. cygnis insignis 12:00, 30 March 2010 (UTC) Cheers btw 12:03, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought is worked pretty well, the species was well known before that lot turned up. I'm only good at proof-reading others, not myself it seem;, if I remembered who or where I swiped that succinct phrasing from I could have copy/pasted it. cygnis insignis 13:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Lake CY O'Connor Image
Hi! I took that photo from the left side window of an Airbus A3?? on a Tiger Airways flight from Melbourne to Perth whilst approaching Perth over the Perth Hills/Darling Scarp, looking southwest. I was a passenger, and I'm not a pilot. I do know the difference, thanks for moving it :] Nick carson (talk) 12:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, no that's fine, I didn't think you were :] When I upload images for use in Wikipedia articles, I just upload them to Wikipedia. I don't have an account at Wikimedia or commons or anything. Nick carson (talk) 13:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
. Bidgee (talk) 14:02, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Admin?
Hey there. Would you be interested in becoming an administrator? It seems obvious you're a clear shoo-in to get the bit so the RfA should be a breeze. Might as well get the few extra buttons to make life easier around here.. -- &oelig; &trade; 04:07, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Firstly thanks for the RfA support. My issues with the death project were one of the main things I wasn't looking forward to dealing with at RfA. I know this is belated but I have !voted in every long running RfA since mid December. Partly to try and guage the situation before running for my own RfA but also because I was interested in making sure good people got through. I have spent a lot of time arguing for and defending candidates and also made some fairly intricate oppose statements. In this time I have never ended up opposing a successful candidate so you might say my standards are lower than the community in general. Anyway for someone such as yourself having the admin tools would be a clear benefit to wikipedia. I know there are admins around who can press the buttons for you but it is far better that a trusted and experienced editor can press them for themselves. If you can think of a few situations where you may have needed the tools (and clearly can back this up with examples of experience) I think you should easily be granted them. My RfA wasn't such a drama was it? Also despite a few slightly ill concieved opposes Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Elockid looks to be cruising to a clear pass. I would support your RfA. Polargeo (talk) 10:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Regarding, I can't fathom how that relates to OlEnglish's offer, especially since he made it prior to the incident :) &mdash;Dark 23:51, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello
I removed references that are not WORKING. Are you ok with that?Gimbo Vales (talk) 10:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:AGF and WP:Bite
I have seen a couple of your edit summaries and a few edits on user talk pages, and it seems that you aren't Assuming good faith. I also am concerned that your edits are Biting newcomers. Just because an editor comes to wikipedia and edits things that are more complex doesn't mean they are socks, they could have edited by IP address.. CrimsonBlue (talk) 10:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Satusuro, please take on board criticism that is intended to be constructive. Perhaps you do need to consider if you AGF enough. For example, you say "Clearly you have not been here long" to CB - that is an incorrect assumption. The user has been on Wikipedia for a long time, and has considerable experience - just not with that user account.


 * I hope that you will accept this as it is intended. We all need to value criticism - it's the best hope we have for keeping sane. With the very best of intents,  Chzz  ►  10:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I would like to note that even though an admin has the same views of you, does not mean it is right. Administrator status doesn't elevate someone above another. Administrators are prone to make mistakes, and not all administrators are always correct. Now this doesn't mean that I am saying the person who you linked on my talk page is wrong, however administrator status isn't something you should use to validate your opinion or actions. See This CrimsonBlue (talk) 11:24, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Ducks
I think they were more like these. Young and not too well informed. something lame from CBW 10:25, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

WA Assessment
Thats fine, mate, you are pretty much in line with how Moondyne did it. Let's face it, if one of those were high importance, we would have to ask ourselves, why wasn't it created years ago. Its a repetative job, great to see somebody taking it on. Calistemon (talk) 14:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Companies are a little easier, everything is on ASX since 1998, providing they are public. Don't worry, you are doing a good job. Calistemon (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for the introduction! I look forward to contributing to the community. Cheers! Cam Vilay (talk) 19:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you also
Thank you for your kind introduction. I hope will be able to contribute positively to Wikipedia. Best wishes from Cait. Caitcatt (talk) 10:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

G'day
Not seriously considering RFA are you? ;) Even though you'd get my full support. Queensland news doesn't even have Tasmania on the weather charts :( I suppose they didn't include Tas in the 1982 Com games map. Have you seen the Tas election farce?  Aaroncrick  TALK 02:56, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the Tasmanian Greens were the world's first environmental political party.  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

You might as well get stuck into Australia, or Yagan, which will inevitably get FARed  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  07:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Malay ghost myths
See the article talk. Any advice or help would be welcome. I came to this from a sideways direction - trying to make Ghost less biased towards British ghosts - and know I know next to nothing on this subject. But I think there is the rough beginning of an interesting article here once the misinformation is weeded out and the missing information added in. Aymatth2 (talk) 00:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Something tells me these people are worse than the Irish. "Well, I am not saying that I am a believer myself, but you may find there are people around here who would say that some do indeed believe in it, quite strongly. It would perhaps be a simpler solution to just route the motorway around the fairy tree and then everybody would be happy, you can be sure of that." Think I will just leave it and move on. The article does have some great ghosts. :~) Aymatth2 (talk) 01:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Rowan jelly is an essential condiment with venison. I can understand the debate. The problem with the Irish is you can never really tell if they are serious or not. Aymatth2 (talk) 02:18, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I've got a few stories for you. LOL. Dad was stationed at Butterworth when I was a kid. Nice place but superstitous about ghosts makingdriving at night a nightmare initself.  Petedavo talkcontributions  08:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
And I thought that no-one noticed me beavering away at those BLPs. Dan arndt (talk) 03:16, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

RS
I see what you mean from your edits. There are different levels: I have been starting a string of thumbnail bios of Nigerian politicians lately for some reason, and one or two of the last type show up on my watch list every day. For example. The assertion could well be true, but has no sources. It seemed a good idea to put a notice on my user page saying "nothing personal, but..." From the edit patterns, the people who make these changes are paranoid but urgently have to express themselves about the injustices. I don't want to be too hard, more explain and encourage on how to do it right. Not easy. Sort of depressing. Aymatth2 (talk) 02:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Silly vandalism like adding "Buba Dedoo" somewhere, or a BAD WORD. I used to be a child too.
 * Promotional fluff. That can be tricky if the subject is notable. Sometimes I am a bit childish myself with these ones, adding content from unflattering sources.
 * Completely unsourced but probably quite true, sometimes an entire article, which you seem to be seeing. Annoying
 * Sincerely meant attacks

Indonesia
Thanks. Providing references or at least coordinates would be good, indeed. - Darwinek (talk) 12:00, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Current revision as of 02:22, 15 April 2010
Sorry if this doesn't appear correctly - it is my first time using User Talk. Thanks for your advice regarding possible site promotion. The background to my adding these links is that I have a website describing the treks that I have done. It is totally non-commercial and I make nothing out of it - however, feedback from the readers suggest that it is a valuable resource for any person wanting to do a particular trek and I have had many comments saying that the information is useful and unique.

I noticed that other people have actually added links to my trek descriptions on Wikipedia, which tends to confirm their value, and therefore thought that I would add others which might be helpful. I would appreciate your advice, and won't post any more if it is not appropriate. It really is of no benefit to me other than a good feeling that I may have helped someone else by giving them good and accurate information.

Best wishes Davo1949 (talk) 02:51, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback - I am defintiely not a WP:SPAM, but looks like I am profiling as a WP:SPA (including the good-intentioned bit). I will follow your advice. Davo1949 (talk) 03:36, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Sudah ada lah!
It was already listed on the template page - long story (read the talk page) but lots of projects didn't have a single main article cat containing all of their articles - WP:Australia now does have everything in Category:WikiProject Australia articles but Category:WikiProject Indonesia articles only contains the by quality etc sub cats. So they made up User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects/Templates which uses the project template transclusions, rather than the category. Bottom line is it exists at WikiProject Indonesia/Unreferenced BLPs. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 16:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Olympic bid
Bahaha!  Aaroncrick  TALK 09:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC) Even an official website. David Foster stadium, haha.  Aaroncrick  TALK 11:59, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * West Coast are making mince meat of Essendon :( Freo will be brought back to earth this week. Good game against Geelong last week, however.  Aaroncrick  TALK 12:07, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board#Change
You are invited to join the discussion |here. Funandtrvl (talk) 17:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC) (Using )

Project tags
Hi! Tks fr the comment. Any suggestions/templates w/rgd to project tags? Kind rgds, Ran KARL RAN (talk) 07:02, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Still around
Just! But thanks for the message. Since retiring I have been picking up all sorts of little contracts - in fact will be in Newman WA next week - and that has impacted my Wiki work rather. I still pop in to do things, and plan to do more as time permits.Sterry2607 (talk) 07:42, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Corner
opened a dialogue with the first time? editor. Had enough problems recently with those who insist that there are people who are are notable from birth, even if mentally retarded!! See the Bowes-Lyon famly! (Crusoe8181 (talk) 11:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC))
 * Bowes-Lyon- had the temerity to open an Afd on David Bowes-Lyon who, by all reliable accounts, was a pedophile homosexual low-IQ relative of the British RF (bro. of the QM) who was drummed out of his regiment and was given a couple of sinecures during WWII to assure the lumpen proletariat that the aristocracy was contributing their best to the war effort (as is quite obvious from the article on the gentleman??). Hence the notable from birth comment. No probs with the Corner, wasn't me anyway (swear to ...) Cheers (Crusoe8181 (talk) 11:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)).

WP:AGF...
ha ha - why we have a good faith policy. nice work. :-) --Merbabu (talk) 06:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Reverting without looking at the diff ;)  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * A mistake we could all make - hence the funny side. --Merbabu (talk) 06:26, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Yep, and because I'm so good, I go straight to the top :)  Aaroncrick  TALK 06:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

"Sandgropers"
Don't know if you have a thing for the nickname, whether you think it's charming etc, but you need to cite blanket statements. If people in WA and around the world refer to everyone in WA as sandgropers, and I just happen to know no-one who has ever heard it, that's fine, but if you back it up with a multi-source state reference search engine which comes up with 9 results, some irrelevant, and cite a page about sandgropers which even then says it only refers to "people born and raised in west australia", I think it's wasting space in the header. The vast majority of us don't live in Pilbara.. See the discussion page for more. Kestasjk (talk) 09:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Where have you been Kestasjk?  Aaroncrick  TALK 11:18, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess I've never heard West Australians colloquially refer to themselves before. I've been around the typical WA country as you'd expect, and my parents often do work in mine facilities/towns. Anyway hopefully it'll find a place/form that won't get reverted constantly by people like myself who haven't heard it. Kestasjk (talk) 03:23, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: 2010 Kalgoorlie-Boulder earthquake
No problem, tried a quick fix-up of the article (shame about the damage the quake caused) as I'm a bit busy ATM and will be offline from the 25th until the 28th as I'll be in Canberra. Bidgee (talk) 11:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, a power adapter failure now means I can't use my laptop (Looks like a AU$300[total cost] replacement is needed as it needs to come from the USA even though the bloody thing is made in China and can't get it here) :(. Using a desktop PC sucks! I'll take a look but may not comment until tomorrow or after my trip. Bidgee (talk) 13:46, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Long time not much to say
I was planning to get back to creating stubs that only the bots edit soon ;) Re auslit, well the number of tagged articles is growing, slowly... Misarxist (talk) 08:07, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't you love it
When people add crap like this? The AOC clearly stated in the second cite that the Tassie Government needs to put forward a official bid but the editor seems to forget that bit. Bidgee (talk) 14:05, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Hobart 2020 Bid
Clearly as you have no involvement in Tasmania or Hobart you would be completely unaware of the situation in our state and city. Let me reiterate my point from every page I have commented on. It is not an April Fools Joke. Coming from somebody who is actually involved in the bid itself, I know for a fact what it is and what it is not. Look through the revisions on the 2020 Summer Olympic pages to see what was added and when it was added. I can direct you to several other news sources, not only online but radio and TV that prove it is a serious, legitimate bid. Yes, it did start out as a joke, but it has sourced far beyond the days as a joke. Considering that it has garnered support from government officials, a committee has been formed and contact has been made between the committee and the AOC & IOC, what further evidence do you need? Just because you believe a place to be incapable of hosting such an event, does not mean that it is a 'joke' or not true. What further evidence do you need in this case? The opinion of a few admins claiming it to be false does not make it a false bid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYC 55david (talk • contribs) 05:34, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Well then you have a conflict of interest (I strongly suggest that you read WP:COI), the fact the source SatuSuro has showed that it did infact start as a joke and is still an unofficial bid as it has no AOC or Government support (Your claim of AOC, IOC and Government support is nothing but WP:OR). It is trivial and does not belong here until it has strong and highly public support from the AOC, IOC and Governments (Tassie and Federal). Bidgee (talk) 05:46, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Hi SatuSuro. Trying to keep thread together on my page. Would it be OK to move you comments to the article talk page? Bleakcomb (talk) 05:02, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

swan coastal plain
cheers for the help with that - once again the world wildlife fund ecoregions info is not all correct - i'll put in the parks you listed on my talk page. best. John Istanbuljohnm (talk) 14:15, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

I wish I could see them one day!! - this armchair travelling is only satisfying to a certain extent :) Istanbuljohnm (talk) 15:37, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Template:Gold mining companies of Australia
I guess, everything will have to start somewhere, even a template. As to the question of inclusiveness, maybe it should be called Major Gold mining companies of Australia. This, of course, would mean we would have to find a criteria for Major (+300,000 ounces/annum???) Calistemon (talk) 13:47, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys, thanks for your comments. Feel free to modify the templates. I just picked these companies without any bias from Category:Gold mining companies of Australia. 14:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I suggest two templates, one Active Gold mining companies of Australia and another, Defunct major Gold mining companies of Australia. Neither would be very large, with most gold mines here now owned by the US or South African giants. The active one would also give me a bit of an idea as to what articles we are still short of. Anyway, mate, going to sleep now (need to get up at five to keep the mine going), have a good night! Calistemon (talk) 14:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I think you might be interested in this template as well.

Template:Mining companies of Australia

cheers

Takamaxa (talk) 14:06, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I have no preferences at all to how many templates it should be divvy up to? It would be nice to have it as one but I understood from your comments you didn't want to have a one for all approach. Thats cool. I'm not a expert in these mining sector matters. do what you guys think would achieve better readership and presentation of the information.Takamaxa (talk) 14:35, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

It would nice if someone could start a article for Gold mining in Australia as there is an article for Mining in Australia which only talks about uranium and coal mining by Coal mining in Australia. The iron ore industry is also not covered nationally but in WA which is good by Mining in Western Australia and Gold mining in Western Australia. Takamaxa (talk) 14:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Stude
Ta for the kind words. This is the one which brought me from Sydney to Perth. It's still not rusty but I am (as we speak) replacing all the 82-year-old timbers of the floor and roof --and plan to be driving it again later this year! With its massive weight and 5.8-litre donk, it still delivered better than 20 mpg towing a trailer across Australia! Cheers Bjenks (talk) 02:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Fallingrain
Is regularly discredited and if you use as ref - it will be removed - thanks - however if you do not understand the issue - the percentage of incorrect positions by that particular website is that it is close to being on a blacklist as a non usable source SatuSuro 11:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your information, but in this case, I am controlling the informations by two maps from UNMIT and GIS, which are confirming this information about Atabae/Aidabaleten. I use the two maps together to draw the maps of subdistricts of Timor-Leste and only control them with fallingrain. --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 16:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you tell me a better source for coordinates in Timor-Leste? --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 16:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * What source are you using to find coordinates in Central Java? ;-) --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 05:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

User:Yavizbasalamah
User:Yavizbasalamah has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Yavizbasalamah. I am notifying you about this debate because you have attempted to inform the editor about his violation of Wikipedia's policies with regards to WP:AUTO. Cunard (talk) 21:15, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Cats...
I saw your new "countries in INdonesian history" cat. Note we already have Category:Pre-colonial_States_of_Indonesia, which I'm not pretending is ideal, but maybe we can rationalise these better. --Merbabu (talk) 01:38, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm - I prefer "former" and "in Indonesain history" over the limiting "pre-colonial", however, i think "states" is a more useable term than "country". Country as more specific and ambitious implications - let's face it, most of these weren't countries. A lot were "kingdoms" and sultanates. And, was the DEI ever a country? "Former states in Indonesian history"?--Merbabu (talk) 01:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Richard Flanagan
Seems to have an inordinate interest in his own article - although your edit alluding to an OTRS issue - have fiddle with it a bit - could you possibly have a re-visit sometime? SatuSuro 12:32, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I will write that again - it seems richard has done a number of otrs items over time about various edits on the article - just checking it then it was a mess and still is - perhaps it needs checking against the otrs message and maybe further cleanup ? SatuSuro 12:55, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've cleaned it up a bit; if I get more issues on the OTRS ticket I'll address them. Stifle (talk) 14:28, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

The end is nigh
Wanna help? The list that needs tagging is here. I'm starting from the top of the list, so if you want to help you could start from the bottom. I think the easiest way to do it is just add  REMOVE "HUMAN" FROM CATEGORY NAME  to each category—that way you don't have to change the country name each time and yet it still gets the meaning of the proposal across clearly. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:49, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Good value
The afd is pretty funny. Rather than the 'single purpose' template it seems to need a template to mark the real editors so the closer can find them. Misarxist (talk) 09:14, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Aduh...
...lagi sampah: Palembang --Merbabu (talk) 13:25, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

RE: OK
WP:3RR - please note you can and will be blocked if you continue to re-insert north american specific organisations - SatuSuro 02:05, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * And please note that you can and will be blocked if you edit war or make changes without consensus. And I'll kindly ask you to bring down your tone. No one has violated a policy. You seem to be eager for that to happen so that you can make a point about content by getting someone blocked. Please read WP:AGF. 65.41.234.70 (talk) 14:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

New Australian sea template
Hello. I have just created Template:List of Australian seas. Did I miss any? Should we include passages, as some of them are included in the Category:Straits of Australia? What about including sounds and channels? - Shiftchange (talk) 01:29, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

When is consensus bullying?
I feel as though I am being bullied out of Wikipedia when all I do for the most part is qualitatively improve articles by adding citations. I have a group of malign editors that have formed a cohort against me. They have searched really hard to find a few matters of dispute out of my 20,000 or more edits that I have made to this Project. I would appreciate some of your time. B9 hummingbird hovering (talk • contribs) 10:20, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

The Cliffe and Dan arndt
Hi, Dan's talkpage has been queried about The Cliffe by a new user. I'm not entirely familiar with the relevant issues but believe that you may be able to supply further input on Dan's behalf. I've made a reply there and on the user's talkpage. Can you help? Sorry to burden you with this hand-balling of the issue.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 09:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Unnecessary awards department
Due to your overwhelmingly prompt response to the above you clearly don't need to get around to it. However, I'm giving you one anyway!

The Cliffe
Is all good - I was thinking what did I need to do since I got back yesterday. So I might as well start by updating this one. Dan arndt (talk) 06:49, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Category:Tasmania Wilderness sites
Hello- the idea here was to tie together the World Heritage sites(?), and exclude other areas to diffuse the category tree (so not Tasmanian Wilderness as too broad)- Name will have to be changed anyway because I left the n off Tasmanian. Category:Tasmanian Wilderness World Heritage areas, may be better perhaps? Regards (Crusoe8181 (talk) 09:33, 19 June 2010 (UTC)).

Sundance Resources Limited
This might interrest you, a new article in need for expansion. Calistemon (talk) 03:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Same, same! Have a great time! Calistemon (talk) 09:29, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, technology has definetly moved on in regards to head lamps. Took me a while to adapt to the heavy ones, I have to say, but ones you did you felt kind of naked without the weight of your belt underground. Calistemon (talk) 09:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:Gold mining companies of Australia
I while back we discussed the sense of a template like this (Template:Gold mining companies of Australia). I've added an inclusion criteria, the companies listed have to produce in excess of 100,000 ounces per annum. This keeps the number of eligible companies in Australia depressingly low! I only managed to add Avoca, can't find anybody else that qualifies. Maybe APEX, if they ever get their act together (unlikely!). Can you think of anyone else? Calistemon (talk) 08:41, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem with historic companies is that this would take somebody with some knowledge of the past. It would also take time to do some research in books and libraries. I haven't really got either and you are most likely lacking the later, too. At this stage, a simple inclusion criteria is probably all we can go for. I like your idea about splitting it in decades, or time periods, but that takes us back to having the knowledge. Calistemon (talk) 08:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

A voice from the past :)
Hi SatuSuro - good to know I'm remembered :) I'm still here, but very low profile. After a couple of bad illnesses and a messy split-up with my partner of 12 years, I don't really feel like getting back into WP to the extent I was here in the past. Still keeping an eye on things though ;). Cheers, Grutness...wha?  23:22, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Why?
Why did you revert my edits to WikiProject Indonesia/Members/Member activities? I clearly stated what I was doing in my edit summaries. Such as removing indef blocked users, non existant users and users who had never made mainspace edits and stopped editing in 2006. Why would you restore these users to member activites? How did your edit make the page better? You merley restored a list of users who are never going to be active in WikiProject Indonesia, or any other pages for that matter. DiiCinta (talk) 10:19, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Indonesian categories
The changes were made a little while ago. They still exist as one-item categories, but at least they are named properly. The creator was blocked for one hour last evening (Aus time) because he was creating some more of them and wouldn't respond to continued requests to respond to inquiries. I wonder if there's a language barrier. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello
Hope all is well. Does Nick Riewoldt deserve the People from Hobart cat?—as I just added it to his article. However, he only lived there until he was nine.  Aaroncrick  TALK 02:39, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Nah, it's a lot colder here, but I was surprised by the low minimums for Perth. Canberra only reached seven yesterday, Sydney 12 and Brisbane 16. Horribly cold here, too; didn't even reach double figures.  Aaroncrick  TALK 03:52, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Annoying how articles just say: "born in Tasmania", or something along those lines, without giving a specific place. I'm sure there's plenty more people to add the People from Launceston cat. Tas articles are messes!  Aaroncrick  TALK 02:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Formatting Indonesia Project pages
Ok! Thanks. — Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 08:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


 * And thanks from me too. I don't quite understand all your advice yet, but will look it up more carefully when I next tackle this area. BagusBagus (talk) 17:54, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Re:Historical Atlas of Indonesia
Sorry I missed your question few months ago. Can't remember anymore why. And yes I have it in my possession. Meursault2004 (talk) 11:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Well at least your question was answered :-) BTW I used to draw lots of maps. This book is not my only source. Meursault2004 (talk) 14:04, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Just out of healthy curiosity (=Arsonal). It's just openness. And no ... you don't have to worry about me proselytizing :-P Meursault2004 (talk) 18:40, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Gold mines in Tasmania
I've basically moved everything inthe Category:Gold mines in Australia into new state sub-categorties. I had a quick look at every article as to whether it actually warrants being in a gold mine category but I havn't done any proper reasearch into it. Thats for a later date. Amazingly, we don't have an article on a single gold mine in Victoria. Lot's of work still to be done! Calistemon (talk) 21:47, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Global Network for the Forecasting of Earthquakes
Hi SatuSuro.This article have been kept.And now nominated again Articles for deletion.Some users demonstrate preconceived opinion.If you have time, could you take a look at the Global Network for the Forecasting of Earthquakes.I'd appreciate a second opinion.Thanks.--Earth Defender (talk) 11:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Sunda Kingdom
Well.., I reluctant to call them as "inventions", probably more as new "interpretations". It has to be supported by references (inscriptions, manuscripts, or interpretation by historians such as Pleyte, Soekmono or Ayatrohaedi) to be reliable and presentable. The problem with the word "Sunda" is there is actually a kingdom named "Prahajyan Sunda" (Kingdom of Sunda) as mentioned in Sanghyang Tapak inscription, and Sunda later become the name of Sundanese ethnics group. In Javanese counterpart, never actually a kingdom named "Java Kingdom", Java always associated with Java island or Javanese people. Javanese Kingdom could be Medang, Kediri (historical kingdom), Singhasari, Majapahit, or even Mataram Sultanate. If you refer to "Sundanese Kingdom" (kingdom of Sundanese people), it may also cover Tarumanagara and Galuh as well, to some extent also may include Banten and Cirebon sultanate. While Sunda actually originated as "Sundapura" the name of the palace or capital in Tarumanagara era, later after the decline of Tarumanagara, it become the name of the kingdom on west bank of Citarum river while the east bank of Citarum river is identify as Galuh (read Tarumanagara and Sunda Kingdom for detail). Later both twin kingdoms (Sunda and Galuh) is unified and identified as single entity Sunda kingdom. I would like to identify Sunda kingdom as post Tarumanagara kingdom in Western Java, and pre-Banten and Cirebon Sultanate. I would like to separate and differ the term "Sunda kingdom" and "Sundanese kingdom" (Gunkarta (talk) 16:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)).

Sorry
You correctly diagnosed a sense of humour failure. I think the category is useful to navigate the various articles on specific Australian federal governments, your clarification helps. Fences &amp;  Windows  13:27, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Middle Ages
Have you noticed the article History of Asia and its section "Middle Ages". What makes you think the Project is eurocentric? Dimadick (talk) 06:52, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

He's still going
What can we do to stop him? Getting sick of mopping up after him. The-Pope (talk) 15:29, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Cats...
Gotta love "catmore". ;-) A cat isn't complete without one. --Merbabu (talk) 13:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

WP Indonesia
Sorry, I don't understand with WP Indonesia, what's that? Thanks a lot. NaidNdeso (talk) 18:52, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Forrest River
I'm not the one who moved that text there. It was moved there from the article by someone else, so go talk to them.Webley442 (talk) 11:23, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

The context is that there are 2 books with differing opinions on the events. The editor concerned wants all material that conflicts with his preferred version of events out of the article so it looks like this isn't a disputed version of history, when it is.Webley442 (talk) 11:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Gasp
Look who's back!  Aaroncrick  TALK 11:19, 30 August 2010 (UTC)