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This Month in GLAM: January 2022
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want to add a image
Hey bro I want to add a logo (image) to a page can you help me B.matias brown (talk) 13:25, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Rejected Draft
Hi JarrahTree, I just had this draft ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:John_Hawdon_(colonial_settler) ) rejected by someone on the other side of the world (You did warn me, as I recall). I don't think it deserves being treated that way, but I have gone as far as to update it a little. However, I am loath to resubmit it, in case it is pounced on again by similarly-minded denizens of the wiki world. I also have another draft on a similar subject languishing in the draft space ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:William_Sandys_Elrington ) and I fear it might share the same fate as the other one. I can only speculate on why the article might have been rejected, and I flatly refuse to speculate or respond in kind, as someone who abhors cyber-wars, 'flaming', etc.. Could you keep an eye out for these drafts and let me know what you think? (Note that I have created some articles directly, but I don't like any malformed tentative drafts (in the broader sense) on public display, and some of mine take a while to 'iron out the kinks'). Regards, TrimmerinWiki (talk) 00:38, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi JarrahTree, You can ignore the above, as another Australian user ( Grahamec‬ ) has just accepted both articles. I have noticed that his subject areas overlap with mine and so it is great to be reviewed by somebody who understands what they are looking at. Thanks for listening to my gripes! TrimmerinWiki (talk) 01:27, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Melanesia
The Wikipedia article Melanesia says that it's a part of Oceania and includes Papua and West Papua. Timor, which is in Asia, is not mentioned. The Melanesian Spearhead Group has four members, and Indonesia is an associate member. East Timor is only an observer. The term "melanesia" refers to the black skin of most of its inhabitants. East Timorese generally do not have black skin - theirs is mostly brown like that of Indonesians from all parts of Indonesia except Papua and West Papua. Bahnfrend (talk) 12:51, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I dunno. My understanding is mainly that East Timor is part of Asia and not Melanesia, and that East Timorese identify as Asians and not as Melanesians. I also know that the Papuans and West Papuans are an ethnic group distinct from other Indonesians. Identification of the precise border between Melanesia and Asia is not something on which I can or do claim to be an expert. Bahnfrend (talk) 13:02, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter – 018



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"Q Wiki Club" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Q Wiki Club and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 10 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 04:45, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Puzzled
Hi, JT. I was not happy with these two edits by User:Tassedethe so looked up his/its other contributions. What on earth is happening here? Is this a bot at work? Why does an established DAB page have to be moved? And how does this manpulation conform with WP:MOSDAB? Cheers Bjenks (talk) 06:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: February 2022
About This Month in GLAM · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery · Romaine 16:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Slow down
Please wait for me to respond before adding more comments. There's no deadline and a talk page is not a realtime chat. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:54, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

This edit moved my comment, so now it looks like it is a reply to something that it is not. This is contrary to WP:TPO. I'm sure you intentions were good, but please do not do it again. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:43, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Parkhurst apprentices
Haha! I get a "thank" from WA and a rotten tomato from the gang at Language reference desk. Were you in Miss Charlton's class too? Doug butler (talk) 01:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 49
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Issue 49, January – February 2022 
 * New library collections
 * Blog post published detailing technical improvements

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Not trolling
From WP:FOLLOWING: Correct use of an editor's history includes ... fixing unambiguous errors ... correcting related problems on multiple articles.

If you think the comma that I added (example) is incorrect, say so explicitly, with reasons. Mitch Ames (talk) 07:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Perth Stadium railway station
Fremantle line trains going to and from Perth Stadium station do not stop at Perth station.

https://www.pta.wa.gov.au/Portals/15/AA_DOCUMENTS/Projects/Perth%20Stadium%20Transport%20PDP.pdf

"Run four-car Fremantle bound trains from the Stadium carrying 2,800 people in one hour through Perth without stopping."

https://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Journey-Planner/Optus-Stadium

"Take a Fremantle Line service from the Western Concourse at Perth Stadium Station. Services operate express to City West then all stops to Fremantle. Alternatively take a train to Perth from the Eastern Concourse and transfer to the Fremantle Line."

– Steelkamp (talk) 03:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)


 * You should have put that on the talk page - not mine, your edit summary was insufficient - you should take care with that ... JarrahTree 03:21, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Also in the old days - using an article title in the heading was not kosher, I have no idea what it is now... JarrahTree 03:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Abuse of rollback privilege
This edit to East Perth Locomotive Depot appears to be an abuse of rollback. Please read WP:ROLLBACKUSE - can you justify its use by any of the 5 criteria listed?

If you disagree with some of the specific change, feel free to discuss those specific edits. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:55, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter – 020



 * April 2022&mdash;Issue 020


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This Month in GLAM: April 2022
About This Month in GLAM · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery · Romaine 04:22, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Cookes Creek
This one is actually a prime example of what you stated in the Articles for deletion/Cookes Creek mine discussion. Shortly after acquisition in 2016, the new owners came to realise that what was promised, the measured 9.5 million tonnes of tungsten, wasn't actuallyy there. See the Big Hill 2016 resources update, where they "popped the bubble" and downgraded the resource from measured to indicated. That would have killed the project right off! To mining-technical for a deletion discussion, I'm afraid, but oh so typical for this kind of project and Bine Mai articles. Calistemon (talk) 12:58, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Bob Muir
Just found Ian Muir's eulogy
 * https://studylib.net/doc/8041404/robert-muir-eulogy.doc

Cheers, Doug butler (talk) 15:21, 19 May 2022 (UTC)


 * ta for that JarrahTree 15:23, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Talk pages
Not sure what you mean. Can you point to an example?  Schwede 66  08:32, 22 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Project tag at - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Canberra
 * Australian and the fact that it is not a content page but a project tag
 * same as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_New_Zealand/Article_alerts
 * however there are lot like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Wellington/ArtAndFeminism/Theatre_2015
 * Hope that explains the question... JarrahTree 08:56, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Spelling helper
Does Shortdesc helper and/or your browser have a spell checker? If so, please consider enabling it. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:38, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 50
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Issue 50, March – April 2022 
 * New library partner - SPIE
 * 1Lib1Ref May 2022 underway

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Review of John Fell (industrialist)
First, I have finally archived my Talk page and promise to keep it in slimmed down form from now on .... now that I know what I am doing in that area. Second, just to let you know that something odd happened in aftermath of your review of the above article. (BTW, thanks for your review.) After you had reviewed the article another user by the name of DarkGlow reviewed it again and took it down from 'C' to 'Start'. I was advised by email, but there was nothing left on my Talk page. I am reasonably thick-skinned, and a receiving a review that seems inappropriately low won't upset me too much. However, I had a look at this user and (self-declared) he, seems to specialise in British soap-operas. So, it seems strange that he is also into oil shale pioneers in Australia. FYI, I left him a message on his Talk page, out of genuine interest. Not wishing to start a flaming war, but thought you may be interested, as the earlier reviewer.TrimmerinWiki (talk) 23:22, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: May 2022
About This Month in GLAM · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery · Romaine 14:13, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

WiR page on Outreach
Hi. Why did you change the page about Wikimedians-in-residence to its old text instead of keeping it a redirect on outreach Wiki? It can be confusing to have a lot of different pages about Wikimedians-in-residence. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:44, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: June 2022
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Nomination of 2017 Western Australian machinery of government changes for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2017 Western Australian machinery of government changes is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/2017 Western Australian machinery of government changes until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 09:16, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Smell
Thanks for your email. Wikipedia attracts people with an intense focus on specific areas, and most of these people do good work. I personally don't see a connection between the two users you've mentioned, and because one was blocked years ago I doubt that a checkuser would be helpful.- gadfium 18:36, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 51
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Issue 51, May – June 2022 
 * New library partners
 * SAGE Journals
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 * University of Chicago Press
 * Information Processing Society of Japan
 * Feedback requested on this newsletter
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Cite errors
Please check the article after removing population with named references - some of those named references are still used in the article elsewhere, so now we have cite errors:. Mitch Ames (talk) 10:47, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: July 2022
About This Month in GLAM · Subscribe/Unsubscribe · Global message delivery · Romaine 01:24, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi!
Haven't seen you around much, but probably because we don't frequent the same areas. Are you going to Wikimania in Singapore next year? BTW, NPP needs all the support it can get. Perhaps you might like to join this appeal and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. Only if you want to of course. Cheers, Chris. (Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:16, 5 September 2022 (UTC))


 * I already have done so JarrahTree 11:52, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Board of Trustees election
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This Month in GLAM: August 2022
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Books & Bytes – Issue 52
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 * New instant-access collections:
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Your talk page message
I know you removed your comment, but I'm not sure I understand the question you were asking and didn't want to leave it hanging. I unreviewed the page in question because I happened upon it and noticed that it has zero sources and about a sentence and a half of content. I'm familiar enough with the concept that I'm pretty sure it's a notable topic and sources are out there, so AfD wasn't the right answer, nor were any of the speedy options. I'm not trying to cause trouble here and it has been a while since I worked NPP, so I'm definitely open to commentary/criticism - would it have been better to draftify it? BLAR it to Market capitalization? Tag? Something else? GeneralNotability (talk) 21:51, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * , I think perhaps Ajeet Param very clearly does not understand our guidelines for article creation and probably needs a lot help before they finally end up at ANI for CIR. JarrahTree may not have been aware of the 'Move to draft ' script which is not (yet) in the Curation tool, or due to the controversies surrounding drafts was unsure what to do. I've moved the article to draft to join the long list there of their other creations, but note how I customised the 'Move to draft' message. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:15, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * There is of course the possibility of PRODing an article like that, but PRODs can all too easily be declined. It all depends how much chance one wants to give the creator the opportunity to improve the article. I don't doubt for a moment that Ajeet Param is creating articles in good faith, but they just don't somehow seem to get it right. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:08, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * And to think I really had wanted a very clear weekend away from this damned zoo... I read the diffs from Darren's editing and  I had though that he had draftified ajeet's one liner.  I somehow was wrong?  I am tired of seeing things at Darren's talk as if he is the cause of the universes problems, he happens to be one of the harder working oz eds whom I consider has been the target of some bizarre talk page events worthy of a lesser monty python skit, or maybe the young ones inside the fridge, the talking steak or vegetable or something...  My reading of the edit was that I thought that the one liner had been draftified.  However it was pointed out to me that it hadnt happened. So when I saw notabilities message, I thought oh no, why expose the one liner back into the clear light of mainspace where it might fall foul of lesser mortals.  Instead I awaken today to see the god of nPP on my talk page and adjusted and corrected drafts of the offending items and all.  To clarify for notability I was at your talk page for what i thought was darren's sake, my reading of his edit history is that he was away for over a week (sigh, if only...) and has been blamed for all the  errors of wikipedia in the past, and I was wearily (it was after a long day of misreading totally different edit histories) wondering why he was being unreviewed.  It was then pointed out to me that darren hadnt physically draftified ajeet's one liner, by a friend v late last night. I then withdrew erased my message as I was there for darren's sake, not for the one liners of ajeet. KUdpungs arrival into the equation is most welcome, and has appeared to have sorted things out. I have in the past been a NPP active editor, but soured on the whole experience when I was nobbled by a fellow NPP on an article that I was creating some time back, and see how the usage of the logging and tagging and draftifying has a potentially sinister element (a NPP draftifying an in process article by a fellow NPP ?), and I remain unconvinced that the action against my editing was done in good faith, and had an element of attack to it (even though a third party reviewed it an estimated that notability was not sufficiently established - ahh take me to the millions of that exact status that remain untouched....). As a result I abstain from NPP, and did not inflict the log of items of any action on NPP when I was involved.

Meanwhile I digress, notability and kudpung discuss procedural responses to ajeet's one liners, to be honest I am not interested, I was concerned initially that darren was away and had been handed a furphy. It seems that the last day of the last month I was involved in a number total misreads of diffs. I just want to go back to silence and absence. If at all possible. JarrahTree 01:32, 1 October 2022 (UTC)