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WikiCup 2011 July newsletter
The finals are upon us; we're down to the last few. One of the eight remaining contestants will be this year's WikiCup champion! 150 was the score needed to progress to the final; just under double the 76 required to reach round 4, and more than triple the 41 required to reach round 3. Our eight finalists are:


 * , Pool A's winner. Casliber has the highest total score in the competition, with 1528, the bulk of which is made up of 8 featured articles. He has the highest number of total featured articles (8, 1 of which was eligible for double points) and total did you knows (72) of any finalist. Casliber writes mostly on biology, including ornithology, botany and mycology.
 * , Pool B's winner and the highest scorer this round. PresN is the only finalist who has scored featured topic points, and he has gathered an impressive 330, but most of his points come from his 4 featured articles, one of which scored double. PresN writes mostly on video games and the Hugo Awards.
 * , Pool A's runner-up. Hurricanehink's points are mostly from his 30 good articles, more than any other finalist, and he is also the only finalist to score good topic points. Hurricanehink, as his name suggests, writes mostly on meteorology.
 * , Pool B's runner-up. Wizardman has completed 86 good article reviews, more than any other finalist, but most of his points come from his 2 featured articles. Wizardman writes mostly on American sport, especially baseball.
 * , the "fastest loser" (Pool A). Miyagawa has written 3 featured lists, one of which was awarded double points, more than any other finalist, but he was awarded points mostly for his 68 did you knows. Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, including dogs, military history and sport.
 * , the second "fastest loser" (Pool B). Most of Resolute's points come from his 9 good articles. He writes mostly on Canadian topics, including ice hockey.
 * , who was joint third "fastest loser" (Pool A). Most of Evan's points come from his 10 good articles, and he writes mostly on meteorology.
 * , who was joint third "fastest loser" (Pool B). Most of Phil's points come from his 9 good articles, 4 of which (more than any other finalist) were eligible for double points. He writes mostly on aeronautics.

We say goodbye to our seven other semi-finalists,, , , , , and. Everyone still in the competition at this stage has done fantastically well, and contributed greatly to Wikipedia. We're on the home straight now, and we will know our winner in two months.

In other news, preparations for next year's competition have begun with a brainstorming thread. Please, feel free to drop by and share any thoughts you have about how the competition should work next year. Sign ups are not yet open, but will be opened in due course. Watch this space. Further, there has been a discussion about the rule whereby those in the WikiCup must delcare their participation when nominating articles at featured article candidates. This has resulted in a bot being created by new featured article delegate. The bot will leave a message on FAC pages if the nominator is a participant in the WikiCup.

A reminder of the rules: any points scored after August 29 may be claimed for the final round, and please remember to update submission pages promptly. If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 00:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Bug?
It appears that the move from...

Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2011-08-29/The pending changes fiasco

...to...

Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2011-08-29/Opinion essay

...broke the script that transcludes comments from talk to article. --Guy Macon (talk) 12:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Mail
Still re the signpost and my article.  Rcsprinter  (talk)  08:55, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Could your bot be affected by the spam filter?
Hi Harry, inspired by your example of the village pump archives, I've just created archives of all of Jimbo's pre-September 2005 discussions; they go from User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive A to User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive G. I've also added Template:Archive list alpha to Template:Talk header. I did all the work manually, but it was fairly straightforward (if tedious!) to find the old discussions because Jimbo was the only one who removed old messages from his talk page. Anyway, while saving my archiving work, one of the major problems I ran into was the spam filter, and I'm wondering whether that could be the reason for some of the gaps in the village pump archives created by the script? Or do you run it with supervision for that reason? Graham 87 16:19, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, the archives seem more complete now, at a quick glance. But Archive B seems to duplicate archive A in many places. I'll check this out later. Graham 87 04:59, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, could it be because of the many blank lines between paragraphs that appear in archive B, especially as one goes further and further down the page? Graham 87 06:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The number of duplicate threads is drastically reduced, but I think the reason for the low number of archives is that the script is processing very early versions of threads. As a simple example, the text "bug in Konqueror" should be in this archive, as it appears in this version of archive A. However, that is not the case. Also, the threads in the new archives seem to be in reverse chronological order. I think the minor duplication in the village pump policy/proposals/etc. archives is alright, and there's no need to run the script there again. Graham 87 06:33, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, they seem to be pretty good now, at first glance. I'll let you know if there are any major problems with the new set of archives, but I don't expect to find many of them! Graham 87 04:57, 10 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The sections separated by "==" are in the correct order, but the sections separated by "" have a tendency to be in reverse chronological order. As a random example, see Village pump/Archive E. It wasn't like that in the analogous section of the old archives. Graham 87 14:18, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Bots/Requests for approval/SmackBot 39
The rationale given for this task is based on a false premise. It is not the redirect that messes up the "v-d-e" link, but the coding of the navbox itself.

I think the approval for this task should be revoked as unnecessary 'fixing' of non-broken redirects. Thoughts? – xeno talk 15:41, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to input my unwanted 2 cents here. As I have told Xeno and others before. Redirects are normally no big deal but with templates and the intricate code many of them use redirecting templates can cause problems with sister wikis, in other sites mirroring Wikipedia data, with analysis of data by third parties performing research and even in when displayed in sites like facebook. These have been identified numerous times and several different reasons and cures were done to prevent it. The bottom line is, although Xeno and some others would try and convince some otherwise, replacing a redirect to a template with an actual link to that template is a very good and helpful thing. --Kumioko (talk) 17:37, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You've advanced this argument numerous times but have yet to convincingly prove the argument with an actual demonstration. – xeno talk 17:40, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Its pointless arguing with you. You always have some comment. Your going to do what you want anyway. I presented my warning so now its on you if it backfires. I am going to go and do some real editing. I'm probably going to exceed the 25-50 edit threshhold though so you might want to watch for that. --Kumioko (talk) 17:48, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The threshold is for page creations, not edits. – xeno talk 18:23, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * But it isn't clear about what constitutes a page creation either, it would seem that whenever someone wanted to argue it a talk page, category, template, etc could all be considered a page. So if I go and add a WPUS banner to 200 red linked talk pages I could be put on the naughty list. Plus that rule gets thrown in peoples faces so much it needs to be clarified or removed. I'm tired of seeing people getting clubbed with a rule that never got a consensus and was put there because knowone opposed it. --Kumioko (talk) 18:29, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I misread the BRFA. Sorry Jarry! – xeno talk 18:23, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
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Signpost question
First some feedback - I like the Signpost in general and especially this week I felt it was well written. Second - would you please reply to my comment on the Signpost talk page from Aug 26? I'll look for your reply there. Thanks. Pinetalk 20:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Jarry, I removed the personal stuff about the Audit Com. editor. (ArbRep) Is that reasonable? Tony   (talk)  02:19, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I've just only noticed the headline for the arbitration report this week as it was posted to someone's talk page. I think it would be best not to directly refer to editors by name in the headlines . – xeno talk 23:00, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

New Loew
That's got to be yours, right? – Quadell (talk) 18:23, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Signpost IRC choice has changed
Hi Jarry, a month ago, there was "irc" and "web" to click on. I always used the first. Now, the only button is back to the clunky old version I had to use when I first participated in the IRC. Any reason for this change? Tony  (talk)  14:33, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Ta
Jarry, thanks indeed for your work in managing The Signpost. Slightly concerned that FC's reader-hits are not what they were a year ago. Do you have a link for the raw data you generated? Tony  (talk)  14:38, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Jivesh Here
Hi. I am Jivesh. I edit Beyonce-related articles most if the time here. I wanted to ask you if you do copy-edits on request? Please reply me on my talk page. Jivesh 1205 (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:14, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * In fact, i asked you because the response is not prompt and i mean it. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 04:02, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

[SVGtranslate bug]
Hello Jarry. I hope it is the right page where to ask for some help about your SVG traduction tool. I can download files but I never manage to load them on commons. They ask a jpg or a svg extension and I dont understand. Is the file I download not in svg yet? Well where can I find something to help. I'm working as sysop on a little wiki (wiki.br) and I won't anybody to explain a=I'm afraid nor to do the job... Thanks--Kadwalan (talk) 02:06, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Requests_for_adminship/Anomie
I think this was well meaning but in error; you might want to move the !vote back to support as the general impression was that it was a joke. Cheers. Pedro : Chat  11:37, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

LivingBot typo

 * making sure ot note such changes in the comments section

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Cheers, – xeno talk 19:54, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

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Re
Geez Jarry, please don't plagiarize my words. ;-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:53, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Update on courses and ambassador needs
Hello, Ambassadors!

I wanted to give you one last update on where we are this term, before my role as Online Facilitator wraps up at the end of this week. Already, there are over 800 students in U.S. classes who have signed up on course pages this term. About 40 classes are active, and we're expecting that many more again once all the classes are up and running.

On a personal note, it's been a huge honor to work with so many great Wikipedians over the last 15 months. Thanks so much to everyone who jumped in and decided to give the ambassador concept a try, and double thanks those of you who were involved early on. Your ideas and insights and enthusiasm have been the foundation of the program, and they will be the keys the future of the program.

Courses looking for Online Ambassadors
Still waiting to get involved with a class this term, or ready to take on more? We have seven classes that are already active and need OA support, and eleven more that have course pages started but don't have active students yet. Please consider joining one or more of these pods!

Active courses that really need Online Ambassadors:
 * Sociology of Poverty
 * Architectural Design
 * Introduction to Educational Psychology
 * Intro to Mass Communication
 * Psychology Seminar
 * Theories of the State
 * Advanced Media Studies

Courses that may be active soon that need Online Ambassadors:


 * Housing and Social Policy
 * Anthropology, Wikipedia, and the Media
 * History & Systems
 * Horror Cinema
 * Digital Media... just bits in a box
 * Composition I
 * Telecommunications Management
 * Training Systems
 * Stigma: Culture, Deviance, Identity
 * Art and Terrorism
 * Political Violence and Insurgency

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:12, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Village pump archives again
Hey, did you manage to get my last message about the VP archives here? I understand that you're busy with uni, and there's no real rush, but just wondering. Graham 87 04:06, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes. OK, fair enough. If it'd be hard to fix, then don't worry about it. Graham 87

If you get a chance this weekend
then I prithee you to watch this excerpt from Marilyn vos Savant where she talks about encyclopedias for bright people and where they find out information that they want to find out. That's the type of "customer" who comes to Wikipedia--nobody is going to read an article they're not interested in, and readers want to read different sources. Obviously in a couple years, the "making the case" section title will no longer be applicable (this will all be past tense, like "the case Obama tried making" or whatever, just something to reflect we are no longer in a futuristic vantage point) but please, please, please take 30 seconds to watch that clip which is pre-loaded from 4min 47sec to 5m 49sec because I think you'll be hard-pressed not to appreciate the beauty in her wisdom, as it applies to how AJA is written... 67.77.174.6 (talk) 00:14, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 September newsletter
We are on this year's home straight, with less than a month to go until the winner of the 2011 WikiCup will be decided. The fight for first place is currently being contested by, and , all of whom have over 200 points. This round has already seen multiple featured articles (1991 Atlantic hurricane season from Hurricanehink and Northrop YF-23 from Sp33dyphil) and a double-scoring featured list (Miyagawa's 1948 Summer Olympics medal table). The scores will likely increase far further before the end of the round on October 31 as everyone ups their pace. There is not much more to say- thoughts about next year's competition are welcome on the WikiCup talk page or the scoring talk page, and signups will open once a few things have been sorted out.

If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 12:40, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikinews Importer Bot
Thank you very much for temporarily blocking the bot. --   Luke      (Talk)   13:58, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

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Global delivery error
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Hi Jarry1250

I just found you on the Adopters-a-user section. I'm a new user, I have a little experience and am setting up a GLAM project. I would really appreciate a little help as I've jumped in and ended up in the deep end very quickly. Many thanks Mrjohncummings (talk) 12:26, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

RE: Notification: changes to "Mark my edits as minor by default" preference
Hi. Thanks for your automated message regarding the "phasing out of the preference entitled "Mark all edits minor by default"" a few months ago. I set up the workaround you linked to at the time, and for a few weeks afterwards, it worked just fine. Now I've returned to editing after a few months' absence, and my edits are no longer marked minor, despite that workaround still being in place. I'm not sure if you're the right person to go to with this issue, but your message said "if you have any problems, feel free to drop me a note." Could you help resolve this, or point me in the direction of someone who can? Thanks! Cheers, Wrelwser43 (talk) 04:01, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I cleared my cache, and tried editing in Chrome, Firefox, and Safari. There's no JavaScript error message, but the "This is a minor edit" box remains unchecked in all three browsers.  I'll go to WP:VPT now.  Thanks for the pointer!  Wrelwser43 (talk) 17:38, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2011 October newsletter
The 2011 WikiCup is now over, and our new champion is, who joins the exclusive club of the previous winners: (2007),  (2008),  (2009) and  (2010). The final standings were as follows:



Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.


 * The Featured Article Award:, for his performance in round 2. matched the score, but Casliber won the tiebreaker.
 * The Good Article Award:, for his performance in round 4.
 * The Featured List Award:, for his performance in round 4. matched the score, but Miyagawa won the tiebreaker.
 * The Recognised Topic Award (for good and featured topics):, for his performance in round 3.
 * The Did You Know Award:, for his performance in round 1.
 * The In the News Award:, for his performance in round 1.
 * The Reviewer Award (for good article reviews):, for his performance in round 3.

No prize was awarded for featured pictures, sounds or portals, as none were claimed throughout the competition. The awards will be handed out over the next few days. Congratulations to all our participants, and especially our winners; we've all had fun, and Wikipedia has benefitted massively from our content work.

Preparation for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Interested parties are invited to sign up and participate in our straw polls. It's been a pleasure to work with you all this year, and, whoever's taking part in and running the competition in 2012, we hope to see you all in January! J Milburn and The ed17 00:41, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

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2011 WikiCup participation


It was good to have you on board this time around- we hope you enjoyed the competition! In case you are interested, signups for next year are open. Thanks, J Milburn and The ed17 20:55, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Signpost October / DataChallenge
Hi Jarry1250,

I noticed that you added the following sentence to the signpost paragraph about the WikiChallenge: "Unfortunately, because it relied on patterns in the training dataset that would not be present in the actual one, the model's ongoing use is severely restricted." While technically it is not incorrect, I am wondering what you want to achieve with this. First, I do not think it is relevant for general readers as this is more complicated then a single sentence. Second, it makes it sound like the competition was a failure while it has been a huge success: we have attracted about 200 people who have seriously crunched our data and we received in total 6 fully documented algorithms. I would have appreciated if you had contacted me first and had asked me if we should have made a reference to the anomaly in the dataset.

Best, Diederik

Drdee (talk) 01:49, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

SP email
Hey Jarry, mind checking the Signpost gmail account? There's a conversation addressed to you (re:mobile/offline development) I'd like to get your response on. Cheers,  Skomorokh   15:59, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Duke of Caxias
Hi, Jarry. I really appreciate your eagerness to help improving Luís Alves de Lima e Silva, Duke of Caxias. However, your edits completely change the meaning of text and are unsupported by the sources given. Not mentioning when you remove entire sentences. Could you at least talk with us before you start making considerable changes to the article itself? Kind regards, --Lecen (talk) 18:45, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

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SP publication this week
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Future of the US Education Program and the Ambassador Project
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Quick question
Re this, I understand you have removed it because of the Hackathon but can I ask, will it be included next week?  Rcsprinter  (rap)  16:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Template transclusion count: Wrong macro usage ??
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hlist
In your bot overwrote improvements I made in  per WP:HLIST. How can we prevent that from happening again? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 01:51, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I have updated the (hard-coded) template the bot uses. I also applied you changes to the global template as well whilst I was there; but then, seeing sense, I reverted myself. Do let me know if the hlist class becomes a default and I'll reapply. Regards, - Jarry1250 [Weasel? Discuss.] 12:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:HLIST, part of the Manual of Style; Horizontal lists have got class, part of the Signpost issue referred to. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:50, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * How's that progressng? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:45, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry, there's probably been a misunderstanding. What I meant before was that I've changed the code for the local delivery bot to respect your hlist-related changes to the formatting, with effect from Monday's delivery; but that for me to be able to change the code for the global delivery bot - the one that fires copies to users on meta, other Wikipedias, other projects - all those projects would need to have an hlist class, which I don't think they do at present. Does that clarify? - Jarry1250 [Weasel? Discuss.] 23:36, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes; thank you. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:38, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

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WikiProject milestones
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Re Bleeding edge technology
Hi. I see you've contested my PROD on this article. If you think it is more than a dictionary definition of jargon, could you perhaps find a source that indicates this? As it stands, my argument seems valid to me - the article provides no source for the term beyond an online dictionary. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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Gettier cases aren't necessarily fictional...
...they might coincidentally happen to be true, but the philosopher proposing them would be unjustified in believing them to be true as it's just an accident that the world conforms to the thought experiment. —Tom Morris (talk) 19:20, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

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That sounds fantastic- thanks very much. I will update the instructions accordingly. J Milburn (talk) 21:15, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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WikiCup bot- a thought
Sorry to come to you so late in the game, but would you be able to script the bot to place the bonus points from "multiplier" articles in an eleventh column, titled "Bonus"? (Also, have you remembered that FS is now out?) Thanks. If it's not possible, no biggy- if it won't be ready for a week or two, that's fine, as no one will be scoring bonus points at the very start anyway. J Milburn (talk) 23:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * (Another quirk- in theory, portals can get double points, but not triple or quadruple. Can the bot handle that?) J Milburn (talk) 23:42, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * In case it's helpful- WikiCup/History/2012. J Milburn (talk) 23:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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Welcome to the 2012 WikiCup
Hello, and welcome to the 2012 WikiCup! The competition officially begins at the start of 2012 (UTC) after which time you may begin to claim points. Your submission page, where you must note any content for which you wish to claim points, can be found here, and formatting instructions can be found in hidden comments on the page. A bot will then update the main table, which can be seen on the WikiCup page. The full rules for what will and will not be awarded points can be found at WikiCup/Scoring. There's also a section on that page listing the changes that have been made to the rules this year, so that experienced participants can get up-to-date in a few seconds. One point of which we must remind everyone; you may only claim points for content upon which you have done significant work, and which you have nominated, in 2012. For instance, articles written or good article reviews started in 2011 are not eligible for points.

This round will last until late February, and signups will remain open until the middle of February. If you know of anyone who may like to take part, please let them know about the comeptition; the more the merrier! At the end of this round, the top 64 scorers will progress to the next round, where their scores will reset, and they will be split into pools. Note that, by default, you have been added to our newsletter list; we will be in contact at the end of every month with news. You're welcome to remove yourself from this list if you do not wish to hear from us. Conversely, those interested in following the competition are more than welcome to add themselves to the list. Please direct any questions towards the judges, or on the WikiCup talk page. Good luck! J Milburn (talk) and The ed17 (talk) 17:54, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

More on the bot
The bot seems to be automatically adding all points to the "bonus" column, instead of just the bonus ones. See the diff. I've fixed it manually for now, but can the coding be fixed? Thanks, and happy new year. J Milburn (talk) 16:09, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

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Have you gone completely nuts? Please undo your recent mass unprotection spree. If you genuinely wish to re-create any of those articles, please form a consensus to do so at Deletion Review. Deletion Review would probably love to hear about the interesting, informative, well-sourced and highly encyclopedic content you intend to introduce at titles such as World War V: Grawp vs. Wikifags and Sexy Horny Slut Kristin Gebert. Thank you. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  05:27, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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Greetings and happy new year. I have a coding question that I am trying to work through and can't seem to figure it out. This is for a C# (or something else if its easier for you) module for AWB. Currently there are several reasons why it would be useful to do this but I am only going to give one scenario for brevity. Here is what I am trying to do:
 * If I have a list of articles and am on the talk page trying to cleanup the wikiProject banners. For example, removing needs infobox from articles that contain an infobox (or adding it for articles that do not have one). I must first scan the articles to determine if they have infoboxes and then switch over to the talk page to perform the needed action. I think it should be possible to code it so that I could check the main page for X and then apply the needed change to the talk page template or vice versa. Just for clarification I am not really asking for you to do the work (although I'm not too proud to accept handouts) but if you know of an example where this has been done that you could point me too I would be grateful. For example something like If namespace = X and contains infobox then (perform the action to remove the needs infobox parameter.--Kumioko (talk) 02:49, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes your right, It would if I was only performing one task. But I have many tasks that I am trying to perform on a fairly large number of articles and I am trying to do it without having to make a lot of edits to the articles. Here are a few if certain criteria are met between the talk page and main page of the article.
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 * Update (add or remove as needed) needs infobox parameter
 * Update (add or remove as needed) unref parameter
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 * Just for clarification I admit that some of these would need some additional research and tweaking before performing them as say a bot edit but first I am trying to determine if this is possible. I appreciate any help you can give me. --Kumioko (talk) 20:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Error report
Bored of me yet? I'm not sure what caused it, but, apparently, someone had -4 bonus points. Manually fixed it, but I thought you'd like to know. J Milburn (talk) 13:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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A New Year for the DNB, and launch of "volume of the month"
See WT:WP DNB for a collaboration that I'm in the course of setting up. Everyone who signed up to the WikiProject for the Dictionary of National Biography is being notified, while there is still time to alter the way of working if need be. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:23, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Jarry1250. What would you say to unprotecting a number of pages at Special:ProtectedTitles, listing them on page, and then using a bot to track and notify the unprotecting admin in the event of recreation? I mentioned it in the above linked thread, and User:Shadowjams agrees with me that it's a good idea. - F ASTILY  Happy 2012!! 21:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I am disappointed in the quality of the feedback you've received on this. You saw something, did something about it, and then opened discussion on it. Clearly you must be blocked, and probably de-adminned as well. Well done all around, I say to you, and in particular your measured response was admirable. Aaron Brenneman (talk) 04:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Categorizations
I have looked at your best claimed work (The FA and 6 GAs in your header) and it seems to me that you do not believe in organizing categories in any manner that I can perceive. Could you please enlighten me on this issue.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:22, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought you were going to try to convince me that you deliberately ordered them as you have based on importance/relevance. Glad to hear you prefer alphabetical. I think alphabetical is most useful to the reader and most aesthetic. It is unfortunate that you don't think it is important enough to implement it. In terms of Bot_requests, I am still looking for some explanation on this cosmetic thing. Everyone has gone mute.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:57, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * How do bots exist just to add the international version tag? That seems to be of no use to the reader.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:39, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you clearly state to me your objection or at least lack of support for a bot that changes the presentation so that it is more useful/aesthetic to the reader if it is not against policy.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:53, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
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Request for Interview Regarding Wikipedia Bots
Greetings-

My name is Randall Livingstone, and I am a graduate student at the University of Oregon, currently collecting data for my dissertation on Wikipedia editors who create and use bots and assisted editing tools, as well as editors involved in the initial and/or ongoing creation of bot policies on Wikipedia. As a member of BAG and an active member of the bot community, I would very much like to interview you for the project at a time and in a method that is most convenient for you (Gchat, another IM client, Skype, email, telephone, etc.). I am completely flexible and can work with your schedule. The interview will take approximately 30-45 minutes.

My dissertation project has been approved both by the Institutional Review Board (IRB) at the University of Oregon, and by the Research Committee at the Wikimedia Foundation. You can find more information on the project on my meta page.

Please let me know if you have any questions, and I look forward to hearing from you to set up a time to chat. Thank you very much.

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Thanks...
...for the update. I'll have a filter through that this evening. J Milburn (talk) 17:17, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

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Re:Wikicup query
I've replied on my talk page. J Milburn (talk) 21:55, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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Mind listing all articles that could get Cup multipliers with the words "tropical", "hurricane", or "cyclone"? Thanks, ;)  HurricaneFan 25  16:23, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

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CIDR range tool
I have just seen your offer to recreate this tool in the Village Pump archives. Yes please! I have been waiting months for the Soxred tool to be fixed.  Spinning Spark  09:59, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Cancel that, I just tried the gadget and it seems to have everything I need.  Spinning Spark  12:52, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Metternich
My review of the article on Metternich might be delayed for a few days. I hope this isn't troublesome.  DCI  talk 03:18, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Al-Arsuzi
OK, its fine. But really, can you give me some examples? --TIAYN (talk) 18:22, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

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Metternich review closing
I will be closing the review of Klemens von Metternich sooner than expected. I am impressed with your work on this article, and most of the issues I have with it don't really impede its advance to GA, although I'd advise some revisions if you intend to nominate this for Featured Article. I do have one major concern with the Historical assessment section, which I believe can be fixed. As soon as my concerns are addressed, I think I'll be able to pass it.  DCI  talk 20:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2012 January newsletter
WikiCup 2012 is off to a flying start. At the time of writing, we have 112 contestants; comparable to last year, but slightly fewer than 2010. Signups will remain open for another week, after which time they will be closed for this year. Our currrent far-away leader is, due mostly to his work on a slew of good articles about The X-Files; there remain many such articles waiting to be reviewed at good article candidates. Second place is currently held by, whose points come mostly from good articles about television episodes, although good article reviews, did you knows and an article about a baroness round out the score. In third place is, who has scored 200 points for his work on a single featured article, as well as points for work on others, mostly in the area of pop music. In all, nine users have 100 or more points. However, at the other end of the scale, there are still dozens of participants who are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly!

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 * was the first to score, with his good article review of Illinois v. McArthur.
 * was also the first to score points for an article, thanks to his work on Hurricane Debby (1982)- now a good article. Tropical storms have featured heavily in the Cup, and good articles currently have a relatively fast turnaround time for reviews.
 * was the first to score points for a did you know, with Russian submarine K-114 Tula. Military history is another subject which has seen a lot of Cup activity.
 * is also the first person to successfully claim bonus points. Terminator 2: Judgment Day is now a good article, and was eligible for bonus points because the subject was covered on more than 20 other Wikipedias at the start of the competition. It is fantastic to see bonus points being claimed so early!
 * was the first to score points for an In the News entry, with Paedophryne amauensis. The lead image from the article was also used on the main page for a time, and it's certainly eye-catching!
 * was the first to score points for a featured article, and is, at the moment, the only competitor to claim for one. The article, "Halo" (Beyoncé Knowles song), was also worth double points because of its wide coverage. While this is an article that Jivesh and others have worked on for some time, it is undeniable that he has put considerable work into it this year, pushing it over the edge.

We are yet to see any featured lists, featured topics or good topics, but this is unsurprising; firstly, the nomination processes with each of these can take some time, and, secondly, it can take a considerable amount of time to work content to this level. In a similar vein, we have seen only one featured article. The requirement that content must have been worked on this year to be eligible means that we did not expect to see these at the start of the competition. No points have been claimed for featured portals or pictures, but these are not content types which are often claimed; the former has never made a big impact on the WikiCup, while the latter has not done so since 2009's competition.

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Swedish heraldry FAC
I recently nominated Swedish heraldry for WP:FAC, and we need knowledgeable editors to comment on the article. Since you have been a contributor to that article, I hope you will take some time to look it over and leave your comments at Featured article candidates/Swedish heraldry/archive1. Thank you for your time and your contributions! <span style="font-family:Frankenstein SF, Luftwaffe, Fraktur Plain, Fraktur, Old English Text MT; font-size:large;">Wilhelm Meis (Quatsch!) 14:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

CIDR edit range tool. I know I said cancel request but...
The trouble I am having with the gadget is that we are usually only interested in recent edits. The gadget is fine if there are not too many edits in the range, but for heavily used ranges it is too time consuming to go through them finding the recent ones. Any chance that you can recreate the Soxred tool? Any one of these features will adddress my problem: ability to sort results by date order, ability to restrict to a range of dates, or ability to specify last x edits. Thanks.  Spinning Spark  19:09, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

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MSU Interview
Dear Jarry1250,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:
 * Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
 * Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
 * All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
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 * The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:15, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

GrashoofdBot
Hey Jarry. I see you've listed this as a bot on the AWB checkpage. I'm not really sure if it needs that. It's a bit silly, but it might not be a bad precaution to just list it as a regular user. Even if this just prevents accidental editing (as it would require approval for each individual edit) by Grashoofd. Anyway, if you're okay with it, I'd rather have it listed as a normal user. - Kingpin13 (talk) 17:46, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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Prod notice
Thanks for notification of the prod notice on Get Well Soon: 500 Ways to Make You Feel Better. Looking at this again, you're absolutely right, it's not notable enough for its own article - I don't know what I was thinking when I created it in the first place, to be honest. I've WP:preserved the content by adding it to the Challenge Anneka article and created a redirect there. Best wishes. SP-KP (talk) 18:17, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Destruction of Stocking Frames, etc. Act 1812
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DYK for Protection of Stocking Frames, etc. Act 1788‎
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WikiCup/History/2012/Submissions/Jarry1250
Thanks for the withdrawal; that was a decent thing to do. With the DYKs, you should still make it to round two, when you can hit the ground running. For what it's worth, that one is a hell of an article, WikiCup or not, so congratulations. J Milburn (talk) 16:28, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

SVG optimizer suggestion
There are a few things your optimizer doesn't do that would reduce filesize just a bit more. For one, it doesn't remove the default Inkscape metadata (which, BTW, is often inaccurate, since, for some reason, it assumes that everything is Creative Commons licensed.) It also leaves in the namespaces that are only necessary if there is metadata. It also doesn't remove the "created by" comments. Finally, it apparently is unaware that "standalone=no" is the default in the XML specification and that it can therefore be left out. — trlkly 01:08, 27 February 2012 (UTC)