User talk:Jason Lagos

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Monument to the Martyrs of the 1830 Revolution
Lovely article. I'd like to nominate it for WP:DYK. What do you think? BorgQueen (talk) 21:58, 4 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello BorgQueen,
 * Thank you for your comment and proposal. Certainly, please do! If there is a need for further improvement of the article, I would also be happy to help. Jason Lagos (talk) 11:09, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Great! As for the hook, how about: ... that the Monument to the Martyrs of the 1830 Revolution in Brussels is surmounted by an allegorical figure of Liberty inscribing the days of 23, 24, 25 and 26 September 1830 in her golden book? BorgQueen (talk) 11:52, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It sounds good to me! Jason Lagos (talk) 11:55, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll be nominating soon. (Sorry I got distracted a bit, hence the delay.) BorgQueen (talk) 03:07, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Done. BorgQueen (talk) 21:34, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks again! Jason Lagos (talk) 23:11, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Monument to the Martyrs of the 1830 Revolution
-- RoySmith (talk) 12:02, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! BorgQueen (talk) 12:46, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks once more! Jason Lagos (talk) 13:06, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

John Cockerill Article
Hi Jason,

im wondering if you have anymore information regarding John Cockerill and family? Do you have a preferred method of contact, such as email?

Thanks in advance, Tyler Cockerill Tyler Cockerill (talk) 18:41, 18 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi John and thanks for reaching out.
 * I do not believe I have more information than what is freely available on the internet. What specific details are you looking for? Jason Lagos (talk) 14:44, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Invitation to join New pages patrol
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Portal:Brussels
Hi @Jason Lagos,

I think it could be useful to create a portal of all thing Brussels a bit like Portal:London (There used to be one but it was deleted as it was abandoned early on and was missing a lot of stuff). This is quite a big job and I was wondering if you could help me with this endeavor. As I see you are quite active on the Brussels side of Wikipedia.

Don't hesitate to asked me more questions of you have them.

Have a nice day,

JhowieNitnek. Jhowie_Nitnek (talk) 19:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi again Jhowie and thanks for your proposal. Although I would be more than happy to support your efforts, I would be cautious about attempting this. Not only is portal creation a big endeavour, as you mentioned, but Wikipedia is actually quite strict about portal maintenance and traffic. In short, the creation of portals should be limited to topics that will garner significant interest and dedicated maintainers, to prevent their removal. I can only imagine that the failure to meet those requirements was the reason why the old Brussels portal was abandoned and merged into Portal:Belgium. Wishing you a good night, too! Jason Lagos (talk) 22:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Edits to Palace of Coudenberg
I would expect an experienced editor to be more familiar with wikipedia policies before calling edits based on them non-constructive. I'll go through the reasoning for them here in detail:

Saint Gudula to Saint Gudula is per NOPIPE. I see absolutely no reason to pipe that link. I agree. I must have reverted that one by mistake.

'The Duke of Brabant' to the 'duke of brabant' is per MOS:JOBTITLE. Given this is not referring to a specific duke I see no reason to capitalise 'duke'. I disagree. "Duke of Brabant" refers to a specific substitute title in this case, not to a generic duke from Brabant.

Place Royale in Reims to Place Royale, Reims also per NOPIPE. It's ridiculous to pipe the link in that fashion when the un-piped link tells the reader all they need to know. Linking Reims separately therefore falls under MOS:OVERLINK. I disagree. "The Place Royale, Reims" does not read as well as "the Place Royale in Reims".

Louis XVI- style to Louis XVI style, again NOPIPE. There's absolutely no need for a hyphen there as it's not a compound adjective, but an actual name for an architectural style. Again, I disagree. "Louis XVI-style" is used in a compound manner in this sentence.

' and the Royal Museums of Fine Arts of Belgium ' I removed this because it's a duplicate. The building is mentioned and linked at the beginning of the same paragraph. Mentioning it again is redundant. OK - I did not notice the duplicate link.

I also take issue in your edits to Palace of Charles of Lorraine with your piping of links to place names to include the Dutch versions. I can't see any reason for this in the Belgian naming conventions guidelines, and it seems much more prudent to use Mont des Arts /Kunstberg for example, as this preserves the bilingual aspect without needing a pipe. Ecrm87 (talk) 23:15, 13 July 2024 (UTC) This is a convention used throughout Wikipedia (since 2007) for all Brussels-related articles.


 * Hi Ecrm87, just to be clear, I agree with most of your efforts. I do maintain, however, that these specific changes (except for two) were not constructive. Please find my replies above (in green).--Jason Lagos (talk) 00:24, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I disagree regarding the duke of Brabant issue. The sentence reads: When at the start of the 13th century, the Duke of Brabant preferred Brussels to Leuven. There's no specific date and no specific duke, therefore the reference is generic and shouldn't be capitalised. I am sorry but this is clearly used as a substitute title for a specific Duke of Brabant and does not denote a description (e.g. "The palace is home to the Duke of Brabant" vs "the palace is home to the dukes, kings and emperors that ruled over Brabant").

I accept your reasoning about the Place Royale, it does read better with the pipe. OK

Hyphenating the Louis XVI style is simply not the correct usage. It is not common practice to hyphenate Gothic Revival-style or Renaissance-style when discussing architecture, therefore adding a hyphen goes against all established practice and consistency. There's been a debate about this in the past on the Talk pages there and the hyphen was removed from the article title for the above reason. Of course, the term is not usually hyphenated, as in the article title. The point is it should be when used in a compound manner, as it is here (e.g. "the chair is in Louis XVI style" vs "the Louis XVI-style chair"). The opposite would be grammatically inaccurate.

I have read the Belgian naming conventions guidance and I can't find anything there mandating that a linked be piped to include the Dutch version. If anything the guidance actually leans in the other direction as it instructs to prioritise the French. Given that piping the link explicitly goes against NOPIPE and that the Dutch version is properly included afterwards, I can't see any other proper way of doing it. Ecrm87 (talk) 11:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC) All Brussels-related articles (since 2007) have been written like this. The conventions do not explicitly mention piped links. They do aim, however, at keeping language neutrality. As you probably know, language is a highly contentious topic in Belgium. Unlinking the Dutch word (or the French one for that matter) or changing the word order has led to heated debates in the past. Reevaluating this long-established convention will undoubtedly push one crowd to argue why their language is not the one linked or why one language is "favoured" over the other, which is an issue not worth reviving in my opinion.


 * Regarding the duke of Brabant, even if the usage were ""The palace is home to the Duke of Brabant"", then duke should still be decapitalised as per MOS:JOBTITLE. The guidelines are pretty clear about this. Not if used as a substitute title for a specific duke, which is my point. Your point is that it is not referring to a specific duke, but as the sentence currently stands, it is. The reader clearly understands this. Not mentioning the person's name does not make the word generic or descriptive. A simple solution might be to pluralise the word to make it generic, which would render the decapitalised form logical (i.e. "When at the start of the 13th century, the dukes of Brabant...")
 * You're missing the point with the Louis XVI style, it's not about grammatical usage it's about usage of an architectural term. It's not usually hyphenated at all. I've checked various references in architectural journals and encyclopedias and no hyphen, even when the sentence is structured identically to the one in the article. I find it hard to understand how an architectural term could change English grammatical rules. We would say "a Gothic-style church", "an Art Nouveau-style necklace", "a modernist-style clock", etc. But if you could quote some instances in the various journals and encyclopedias that you mentioned pointing the opposite, I will concede to removing the hyphen.
 * I'll defer to your judgement on the Belgian naming conventions, as I can see why i might cause controversy. OK, thank you. Ecrm87 (talk) 18:46, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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