User talk:Jasper Deng/Archive 13

Website
Your userpage links to your website, but it seems to be down... :(

Also... that's a large editnotice, and it looks like "regular" text. Have you considered putting it in a box, or some other kind of style that would allow quickly indentifying it as an editnotice? For a moment I thought I had clicked at the wrong place and that I had been taken somewhere else. Putting it at the top of your talk page instead of in an editnotice might be an avenue to consider; see my own talk for a customized example. :)  Salvidrim!   06:40, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The site uses IPv6 only, and I'm horrible at formatting. Many people are much less likely to read the top than an editnotice.Jasper Deng (talk) 06:42, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for fixing the numbering on my RfA page. Pol430 talk to me 20:43, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

ID
I keep receiving messages and comments from a certain Jasper Deng. Can I know who you are? --MaxAMSC (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This is the same Jasper Deng; I'm on frwiki too. I won't give out any personal info though.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:52, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Why are you on fr.wiki if you barely understand French (as indicated on your fr.wiki user page)? --MaxAMSC (talk) 20:01, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's been a long time, and now I'm about half-proficient in French. Still, I didn't make any edits on French Wikipedia outside my userspace, but I hope to in the future.Jasper Deng (talk) 22:12, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * OK --MaxAMSC (talk) 22:13, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You should remove the fr-0 userbox and add the fr-1 userbox. I believe it would be more appropriate because (no offence) many wikipedians on fr.wiki are wondering why you have an account if you can barely understand French (as indicated on your user page).  By changing your userbox, everything will be OK. --MaxAMSC (talk) 00:57, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Already ✅. Jasper Deng (talk) 01:18, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If I may ask, you mention that "many wikipedians on fr.wiki are (...)"; may I ask who you are referring to, considering nothing of the sort has been posted on his talk page, you haven't edited for 7+days (and you're still blocked)?  Salvidrim!   01:45, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Not on his talk page, and even if I am blocked, I can still wonder around fr.wiki... --MaxAMSC (talk) 01:58, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * By all means, point me to the right place. :)  Salvidrim!   02:00, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way, who says I do not have multiple accounts on fr.wiki... It's a possibility. Although it would be pretty hard to prove considering the fact that I contribute to Wikipedia from a public computer... --MaxAMSC (talk) 20:08, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I would strongly recommend you do not engage in ban evasion; leaving even a vague doubt about that possibility is not the best of ideas. Are you evading the ban?   Salvidrim!   20:53, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No. I believe editing under another username/account is useless because the contributions are basically lost.  Moreover, you need to "start over" with a new account, so fr.wiki will just need to do without me for a little while.  I'm getting tired of Wikipedia anyways...  Always the same problems, the same bots talking back at you, the administrators (I won't say more on that subject), etc.  Everybody will get what they were aiming for in a couple of weeks, when I will meet with the heads of Wikipedia in San-Fransico. Some will like what will follow, others won't...  --MaxAMSC (talk) 21:36, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * So, exactly, qu'est-ce que vous allez faire?Jasper Deng (talk) 21:47, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Meet with the heads of Wikipedia and discuss some issues that were encountered while editing.   No names will be mentionned, except maybe a few disruptive administrators presenting a condescending attitude on talk pages (I have the proofs with me).  --MaxAMSC (talk) 21:55, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I would not call it condescending since they are administrators. In fact, I don't know why you thought it was a good idea to bring up irrelevant things such as your wealth/income, education, and in particular, their education.
 * My formula for determining whether someone is disruptive or not is mainly the number of people opposing and/or supporting that person. If other people are making comments like "Stop!" or "your money nor your education is going to unblock you" (declining admin's comment on frwiki), it's you who's being disruptive, not them. If they were being disruptive, why would the frwiki community trust them to be admins?Jasper Deng (talk) 22:00, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * We'll see what happens in a few weeks... You'll be surprised. --MaxAMSC (talk) 22:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, so you're trying to get over the community's head? You realize the Wikimedia Foundation staff have no time for silliness like this!Jasper Deng (talk) 22:04, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Are you aware that the Teachdude user (or something resembling that name), which you contributed to the blocking, was actually the account belonging to one of my colleagues? You people are hilirious sometimes; taking action without even thinking for a single minute! And by the way, in international law, a "suspicion" because of a "weird opposition" on "MaxAMSC's talk page" on fr.wiki is not a valid justification for imposing a sanction, meaning that Wikipedia does not even respect the material written in its articles. --MaxAMSC (talk) 21:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No, read the terms of service - this is a private website where your only right is the right to vanish. If that were your colleague, that is meatpuppetry, also considered sockpuppetry and prohibited.Jasper Deng (talk) 22:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * And now what is this?Jasper Deng (talk) 22:29, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * His new account! He'll start over another time.
 * By the way, no matter whether something is private or public, real or virtual, it must respect international law. I can't believe it, Wikipedia doesn't respect the law. --MaxAMSC (talk) 22:58, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Status: off watchlist. --MaxAMSC (talk) 23:14, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * And international law states that a private website may restrict one or more persons' access as they please. There's no freedom of speech right. So you think he's doing socking now?Jasper Deng (talk) 23:56, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

I think I didn't explain it right. He will create a new account later, not start over with the arguments! --MaxAMSC (talk) 02:39, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Which is not allowed. Ces sont des faux-nez.Jasper Deng (talk) 02:41, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you should talk to him. He'll probably not take me seriously.  And by the way, you should give him the definition of sockpuppetry because according to what I know about him, he does not care at all.  After all, he has other things to do, like preparation for a MSc lecture tomorrow morning and a PhD course a little later.  Too bad, Wikipedia will lose the contributions of a brilliant man... four bachelor's degrees, three master's degrees, and three doctorate degrees, covering pure and applied sciences to health sciences to psychologie to as far as literature.  Anyways, life goes on! --MaxAMSC (talk) 02:50, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * He's your colleague, not mine. Therefore it is your responsibility to tell him to stop (mention that his comments are backfiring). As for your block, it's not indefinite, it's only 1 month. If you yourself make no disruption you will not be re-blocked. If you'd like I can ask for a CheckUser to verify that those accounts are not yours.Jasper Deng (talk) 02:53, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll make the message, but I promise nothing... --MaxAMSC (talk) 03:00, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Pretty hard to do considering that I am in a university's library, which contains more or less 200 computers all connected to the same modified closed-circuit rooter. Therefore, when visiting a website, the computers are always sending the same information concerning the IP address.  Oh, and by the way, we installed a new program on our computers called "Hide My IP." It comes useful to counter blocks.  Now don't think about the worst yet.  We do that because, as you should know, university students are continually deleting and adding inappropriate content to Wikipedia. Therefore, when the time comes for a student (who has no account) to check something on Wikipedia, he activates the software and can read, edit, do whatever he feels like, on condition that he is not deteriorating the encyclopedia (we would know since we have specialized staff, administrators on en.wiki, verifying that all day).  As for the others who have their own accounts, they log on before editing to prevent encountering issues on-line.  Anything else? --MaxAMSC (talk) 03:10, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * CheckUser can detect all of that; the software actually is not allowed per our proxy policy. Legitimate users must request accounts by e-mail; it is your organization's responsibility to prevent vandalism.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:12, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not the one in charge of that. I teach, practice, instruct, and lecture. Nothing else, except maybe discipline some students a few times.--MaxAMSC (talk) 03:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, then tell your administration what I just told you.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Then how did my colleague manage to create an account on fr.wiki with a blocked IP? CheckUser is not that efficient. And I forgot to mention that our university students came up with that software. --MaxAMSC (talk) 03:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I will tell them tomorrow. --MaxAMSC (talk) 03:21, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * He could've used a Tor node or just changing his IP address, but CheckUsers are not fooled (they can see private IP addresses and even browser versions). If your university is engaging in software development that is disruptive to the Wikimedia Foundation, it isn't your or your colleague's problem if the WMF is forced to use legal action.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:31, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * My colleague would like to know how to delete his accounts (those that are not blocked), and would like to know if it is possible to delete his talk pages because he wants to "disappear from the Internet." --MaxAMSC (talk) 19:17, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It is not the university, it is the students in computer science and related courses that develop such software. And they are the ones who use them.  Not professors, administration staff, etc. --MaxAMSC (talk) 19:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, your university is responsible, and thus your students, to not develop Wikipedia-disrupting software. As for your colleague, he will have to request to exercise his right to vanish, but we cannot completely delete an account for legal and technical reasons.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:51, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

::1 versus 127.0.0.0/8
Hi Jasper,

You reverted my reversion of the comparison of ::1 with 127.0.0.0/8 on IPv6 address. Could you explain why comparison of a single IPv6 address with a /8 network in IPv4 makes sense, instead of the comparison of two single addresses?

Regards, —— Da n do r iD (talk) 18:47, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Technically, any address that is 127.x.x.x, not just 127.0.0.1, can be used, so it's not really a valid comparison to say 127.0.0.1 is the only equivalent to ::1, since 127.3.6.3 etc. is also an equivalent. However, only ::1 is a localhost in IPv6, versus a whole range for IPv4. Jasper Deng (talk) 19:24, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

You beat me to it
I was just about to request temporary full-protection of Usage share of web browsers when I saw that you had already done the very same thing. It's getting a bit silly over there, glad to see someone is keeping an eye out. - SudoGhost 05:02, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think all statistics should be treated with a grain of salt, but many people don't use Wikipedia.Jasper Deng (talk) 05:03, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

sam wood
I only removed it because the image was deleted and replaced..also sent the permissions email as well..That was just a clean-up to let people know if was deleted? There was no harm in this. A block for cleaning up a page is certainly harsh!Kmhistory (talk) 23:08, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No, we need to keep old notices. We want to see exactly what happened without going through the page history.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

DISCUSSION OF MY USERPAGE.
Hi Jasper Deng. I've read your message, and I'll two speaks: 1) IT'S NOT MY FAULT if some users (as User:MikeWazowski and User:OliverDF) are ignorant and retarded. They, before after I edit a page, a litlle thing of a page or a template, REALLY DON'T THINK, DOCUMENT BEFORE AND LOOKS MY REFERENCES, and then if their are SOUGHT BY THEMSELVES to become my haters, because other users do not behave them. I'm a GREAT EXPERT of Cartoon Network and the pages and the official template modified by me, before of them when I started my work from first beginning day, WAS COMPLETES, PERFECTS, WELL-WRITTENS and with OFFICIAL REFERENCES(for the pages and the template's talk page); 2) At you (don't have it because I say so and I'll say it all), NO ONE NEEDS TO CHANGE MY USERPAGE!!! My userpage is MINE, and ONLY I can change it and insert all that I want! FOR EXAMPLE, if I change in your userpage a thing or if I change completely your userpage, you shouldn't act well, and would have acted accordingly. Then finally that my paragraph and list removed, was right and MAYBE I'll re-insert in the next months. (Luigi1090 (talk) 18:25, 20 March 2012 (UTC))
 * I find it ironic that you'd call yourself "civil" when you're shouting so excessively. On Wikipedia, you must keep feelings about other users to yourself. While it's generally impolite to edit others' userpages, you do not own it and things against Wikipedia policy can be removed by other editors. If you disagree with these users, you must discuss the references with them, and follow any policy link pointed out.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:31, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You lost me at "I'll two speaks"; you might want to make sure your level of English competency is sufficient before editing an encyclopedia in English. :)  Salvidrim!   00:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Possible impersonator...
FYI, someone created an account named User:Jasper Dean. They haven't edited yet, so I will AGF for now, but I would keep an eye on them. Calabe1992 17:53, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This is the time when the ability to watch a user's contribs is useful. Watch him. Normally, however, impersonators tend to have only a slight spelling change.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:26, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe I'm having a brainfart at the moment, but how do you watch an individual user's contributions? Calabe1992 19:40, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly. We can't.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:41, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Heh. I tried editing the watchlist manually, adding the Special:Contributions page for that user. Of course, it didn't work. Calabe1992 19:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think you can watchlist any page in Specialspace. Whenever I need to watch a specific user's contribs I just make a bookmark and load them regularly. ;)  Salvidrim!   20:07, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Editor Issues
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeWazowski is harrassing me. I'm trying to add information about a screening for The Dark Knight Rises and he keeps deleting it saying that no one will care. How does he get to decide what's important and what's not important. I've cited the material. Shouldn't he take this to the talk page. He's just trying to engage in an edit was. --DavisJune (talk) 01:02, 24 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavisJune (talk • contribs)
 * First, you're going to explain this very incivil comment that assumed Mike was doing evil. OK, I haven't taken a look at the article but what I know is that citing is not the only thing on Wikipedia. Notability is another very important one.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed) --DavisJune (talk) 01:11, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The more you use profanity the less incentive I have to actually help you and the more I have to just laugh. If you disagree, you start the talk page discussion if he hasn't. You are the one who's probably going to get a block out of this if you don't calm down.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:13, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavisJune (talk • contribs)
 * Then tell me, why the hell do you care so much about this conflict? Getting the word out is not good practice per Canvassing.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:20, 24 March 2012 (UTC)


 * So, can someone remind me why DavisJune came here for help, then proceeded to go nuclear and verbally assault you? So much anger... :| Try not to let it get to you, mate.   Salvidrim!   01:24, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Still puzzled on that. To both DavisJune and Jasper Deng, please don't let emotions get in the middle of things, that normally doesn't help. Please walk away from your computer for a bit if your getting heated. Just sayin'. Good luck though! Peace, Jesse V. (talk) 01:33, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I tried humor in my second comment above, but obviously that didn't suffice.Jasper Deng (talk) 01:34, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have redacted the personal attacks per WP:NPA; feel free to restore them if you do not agree with them being redacted. This editor is seriously on the verge of getting blocked indefinitely for his behavior, and the personal attacks he made on his talk page during his first block was enough. B  music  ian  13:48, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Should I tag DavisJune with ? Seems like he obviously doesn't have the maturity yet.Jasper Deng (talk) 16:36, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Already done I see. Jesse V. (talk) 17:41, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I mean, for his userpage (I can give you a few examples if you're still confused).Jasper Deng (talk) 17:42, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I personally would wait a bit and see if things stop. If hissy fits continue on the Talk page than yeah. I think things like this are just in reaction to the currently unfolding events IMO. Your call. Jesse V. (talk) 17:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Nah, talk page access was revoked like 12 or 13 hours ago. See his block log.Jasper Deng (talk) 17:49, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia official skype account
Hi,

Skype is not a social network. --Tegra3 (talk) 05:55, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No, it kinda is, or at least facilitates us becoming one.Jasper Deng (talk) 05:57, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You can always get the Skype info of other esitors and contact them, no need for WMF to setup something official. I have a few editors in my Skype contact list whom I discuss with from time to time. My Skype info can be accessed from my Userpage, just like my FB, Twitter, and everything else relevant.  Salvidrim!   16:45, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/ronjohn
I don't have to listen to you anything else you have to say regaring my RFA please discuss on the talk page of Requests for adminship/ronjohn. Please refrain from providing me your personal opinions regarding my RFA. I did not solicit your opinion, so don't provide it!--Ron John (talk) 01:19, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Nobody CAN comment until you actually activate it. ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 01:42, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the editor's behaviour speaks for itself; in any case, I was under the impression that the whole point of an RfA was for other editors to state their own opinions on the candidate... :)  Salvidrim!   02:03, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup. Don't think he gets it. ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 02:04, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, such nominations are highly discouraged because they tend to waste the community's time.Jasper Deng (talk) 02:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * On Wikipedia, you do get what you don't explicityly solicit :).Jasper Deng (talk) 02:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * In Russia, you don't solicit...it solicits you ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 02:09, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Pwned! Oh snap! :D Jesse V. (talk) 02:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL!Jasper Deng (talk) 02:33, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

My RFA still stands.. What is the point of "lol" on a wikipedia? I thought this was a professional environment, is it not? I did activiate it. I don't want your opinions on if I should do it or not...--Ron John (talk) 16:16, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, we're a community that still can joke around time to time. Your RfA is still unactivated because you've still failed to transclude it onto the main RfA page.Jasper Deng (talk) 16:25, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have given him 24hrs to actually transclude it, or else it's time to delete it. If he needs help doing so, perhaps he'll actually listen to counsel on how to do it ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 23:53, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Stalking
Oy Jasper, hope you don't mind me too much. If you think I should just leave your talk page alone don't hesitate to lemme know. :)  Salvidrim!   02:19, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * D'accord. Just don't comment on every one, but like 1/5th of them at most.Jasper Deng (talk) 02:34, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ooooh, that'll be torture! You seem to attract such a diverse and interesting bunch. :p  Salvidrim!   02:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I mean, don't make it appear as if it were your talk page :) .Jasper Deng (talk) 02:47, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yea, I have a tendency to act as if I belong when I don't necessarily do. ;) I'll try to dial the enthusiasm back a bit.  Salvidrim!   02:54, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey, so do I!Jasper Deng (talk) 02:55, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

User script list cleanup project
I'm leaving this message for known script authors, recent contributors to WikiProject User scripts/Scripts, and those who've shown interest in user scripts.

This scripts listing page is in dire need of cleanup. To facilitate this, I've created a new draft listing at WikiProject User scripts/Scripts cleanup. You're invited to list scripts you know to be currently working and relevant. Eventually this draft page can replace the current scripts listing.

If you'd like to comment or collaborate on this proposal, see the discussion I started here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject User scripts. Thanks! Equazcion ( talk ) 21:06, 25 Mar 2012 (UTC)