User talk:Jatreat

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Speedy deletion nomination of William W. Treat


A tag has been placed on William W. Treat requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9507E5D8123AF937A25752C0A9669D8B63. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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A note on copyright
As your text has been already published, it is copyright. Wikipedia is licensed for free reuse by anyone, anywhere, anyhow. Your text isn't licensed in this was - CC-BY-SA (Creative Commons 3.0, requiring only acknowledgement that it came from here, and allowing commercial and private use, plus modification). This means we can't allow the use of copyright text that isn't licensed that way. (All contributions here are the copyright of the editor concerned, but, by saving, the editor grants a CC-BY-SA licence on the work.) I don't know the terms of your agreement with the NYT, but as it stands, we have to assume that they hold a copyright on the text until we are convinced otherwise. I would advise contacting User:Moonriddengirl or User:VernoWhitney who are two of our top people on copyright matters. It does seem silly at first sight that you can't use something you wrote because it's copyright, but for legal reasons we have to be very careful. Peridon (talk) 18:32, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

There's an even better alternative, which is  to rewrite the article: Do it as follows.
 * 1. Avoid Close paraphrase change not just the words, but the arrangement into sentences and the sequence of ideas. Do that by describing is life in chronological order: first his birth, then his education, then his early career before he became a judge. Include dates. Follow that by his judicial career, and legal publications  then by his role as ambassador. Then give his awards, including the honorary degree. I don;t think you need all the company directorships  The spouse & children can be mentioned, but not grandchildren, nor information on the funeral.  His descent from Robert Treat is interesting enough to include, but give the exact relationship.
 * 2. All of this must be sourced to a published source, and a paid death announcement is not acceptable. There should be other newspaper articles. (even if you established copyright and gave permission, you'd still need references,so you might do well to rewrite assugested).  DGG ( talk ) 19:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC)