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Just a question
Are you interested in wikignoming and/or content (article) writing? The content writing lesson is surprisingly short, and wikignoming is my specialty. &rarr;  Dylan 620  (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 13:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Both of these, definitely. :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  14:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Blrghrg
Thanks for that Barnstar, I appreciate it. Its funny that I never even intended to stay on Wikipedia, I just wanted to correct a typo on Ratchet: Deadlocked, now I've ended up getting awards. (the title is gibberish because, whenever I go on a user's talk page, I always see about a dozen posts called 'Thanks' and I just thought it was a very unimaginative thing to say. It gets me very annoyed actually) Spongefrog (talk) 15:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I hope that you decide to stick around. And, I believe I am entitled to be on the "Non-Shame List" ;) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  15:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I was in the middle off non-shaming you when I got that message!!!!! >:( I'll do it now. I have to stay, I'm a Wikipediholic now. Or is it Wikiholic, I can't remember. I've been here for about 4 months now anyway, it would be a shame to let my edit average per day go down. Spongefrog (talk) 15:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikiholic, I think. And yes, this place is incredibly addicting. When I first started I was averaging over 200 edits a day. Now I'm down to 138. Sad. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  15:30, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Two hundred! Wow, the most I've ever got was 72 in a day. Spongefrog (talk) 15:32, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Behold the power of Huggle. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  15:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

CHEATER! Anyway, I added you to the non-shame list. Spongefrog (talk) 15:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Bsadowski1 (talk) 17:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Adoption update
Hi T'Shael, just so you know, User:Dylan620/Adoption/T'Shael and its first subpage (lesson #1) are up and running. Cheers! &rarr;  Dylan 620  (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 17:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, splendid. :) Thanks for the update, I shall head over there posthaste. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  17:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi
Hello T'Shael. Since you seem to have a new signature every week, I'm going to ask you. How exactly do you change your signature to include color, font, links to guestbooks etc.? I've tried it numerous times in the last ten minutes but it didn't work. I was going to ask on the helpdesk, but I saw you were busy and asked you.

P.S. Did you 1) used to be called 'Those Stars Burn Like Diamonds'? Or 2) did you not. Or 3) did you used to be called that but changed it for a very personal reason and don't want anyone to know. If 3) don't answer. Spongefrog (talk) 18:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, it usually says "busy" all the time. I actually just stopped in for a little bit. Anyway, have you read WP:CUSTOMSIG? There's not much more than I can add to that except to show you what my signature looks like un-wikified ( T'Shael,   Lord of the Vulcans  ). If that doesn't help, let me know and I'll try again. ;) And yes, I used to be known as "ThoseStarsBurnLikeDiamonds" but Avraham changed it about a month ago. Since you seem to like stalking archives you can find out why I had it changed at WP:CHU. ;) - T'Shael,   Lord of the Vulcans  19:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you'd rather not read all that, let me know what you'd like and I can probably work something up for ya. ;) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  19:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Wait a minute I'm about to reply (you just edit conflitificated me >: Spongefrog (talk) 19:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't stalking archives!! Its because there's (or was) this thing on your userpage that said someone called you something (a sad old man, I think) but when I clicked on it, the vandal had been talking about Thosestarsburnlikediamonds. Or if you mean how I knew about your signature changing, its because I seem to see your username in several unrelated places on Wikipedia. That happens with other users too, actually Damerung and Gaia Octavia Agrippa for example. Weird. There must be far fewer active users than you would be led to believe from all the statistics. Anyway thanks. I tried finding a WP page for signatures but could only find things about unnacceptable signatures (I probably did a typo or something). There was something else I was going to say but I cant remember it. I'll tell you when I remember. Spongefrog (talk) 19:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, okay. ;) That's what I meant, my signature is probably on a lot of pages here on Wikipedia. If you remember what you wanted to say, I'll probably be around another 20 minutes or so. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  19:18, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

What? Spongefrizzle?! So thats what your calling me now is it? Oh, its OK, I remembered. I've already put it in the post above, i'd just forgotten. It was the thing about not finding the WP page about it. Spongefrog (talk) 19:21, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, alright. Sounds good. :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  19:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I put that thing in but look: &#91;&#91;User:Spongefrog&#124;&lt;font color=&quot;Green&quot; face=&quot;High Tower Text&quot;&gt;&#39;&#39;&#39;Spongefrizzle,&#39;&#39;&#39;&lt;/font&gt;&#93;&#93; &#91;&#91;User talk:Spongefrog#top&#124;&lt;font color=&quot;blue&quot; face=&quot;High Tower Text&quot;&gt;(talk to me, yo)&lt;/font&gt;&#93;&#93; (talk) 18:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

What have I done wrong?

Permission
I am currently writting a novel about a fictious land of delfinus and the quest to save it and was wandering if i could use Lord of Vulcans as a title to a character. Thanks! Schnitzel MannGreek. 22:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if you're planning on trying to publish it, most likely not. While I have no problem with it, "Vulcan" is a species in Star Trek and I'm pretty sure that it is copyrighted. I didn't invent it or anything. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  23:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You're not the ORIGINAL Vulcan? How... disappointing. Vicenarian  (T · C) 00:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, tell me about it. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  00:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) On a side note, have you noticed how.. ahem, interesting my talk page has become lately? - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  00:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Want something interesting? Take a look at this RfC. Now I know where all the admins went. Vicenarian  (T · C) 00:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow. That's intriguing. May anyone "endorse" a particular outside view? - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  00:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) I believe you can endorse any summary or summaries you please. Vicenarian (T · C) 00:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Docu. :) - T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans
 * Doofus. :) - T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicenarian (talk • contribs)

:) Someone is going to stroll by my talk page (seeing as how it has become rather popular lately) and think I am talking to myself. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  01:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I see what you mean about Vulcan as star trek but i mean Lord of Volcan like volcano where volcan is a fiery and volcanic land.Would that be okay?-- Schnitzel MannGreek . 01:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) I have no problem with it. :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  12:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
I've voted in a ton of AfD's, but I've never closed one. I need to ask J. Delanoy how he did that. As always, my gratitude knows no bounds. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 18:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Hi T'Shael. I was just wondering how you got so many people to comment on your talk page. I mean, you've only been on Wikipedia for <2 months and I've been on for >9 months (User:BriMaster2000-Vandalism problems--Let's just say my mom was upset) / >3 months. By the way, go to my friend Universal Fin's page. He could use some help with Wikipedia. Also, how did you get all your stuff into the toolbar and have specific pages for barnstars and user boxes. And how did you get barnstars. I want some. BriMaster2 (talk) 02:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * T'Shael is well-loved. Speaking of which, I'm off for a little vacation. I'll see you guys in a few! Vicenarian  (T · C) 02:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, in my time here I've been relatively active in the account creation process as well as vandalism fighting and new page-patrolling. So, I guess this counts for the high level of traffic to my user page. The toolbar I got from the user page design center and created user:T'Shael/NavBar to change it so that all the icons redirect to my specific pages. As to the barn stars, they are relatively self-explanatory. :) Hope that this helps some. And Vicenarian is right, people love me. :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  02:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You want Barnstars, do you. Write a big list of reasons why you deserve them, like I did here. It works for me. Or add the UBX below. (sorry about using your talk page to talk to someone else, T'Shael). Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  12:40, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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Hello :-D
Hello, just a friendly visit:) How's it going? I also wanted to ask--is it possible to have an emai address on wikipedia like schnitzelmanngreek@wikipedia.org? Feel free to stop by my userpage and click on a new link to sign my guestbook:) Schnitzel MannGreek. 21:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm.. as far as I know the only way to have an "@wikipedia.org" email address would be to work for the Wikimedia foundation. I don't believe that Wikipedia has a free email program or anything (a la hotmail). - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  21:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for signing...though you forgot to take the barnstar so here:

21:46, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually..now I see it is in your barnstars section so its good. no harm done to have it in your talkpage too;) Thanks again:)-- Schnitzel MannGreek . 21:51, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Huggle
I tried to download Huggle as a faster alternative to Lupin's Anti-Vandal Tool but it said I need.NET Framework 2.0. I am afraid that might change the settings on my computer. Whant should I do? Schnitzel MannGreek. 17:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think that it will have any affect on your settings. The computer that I'm on right now is my MacBook, so I can't even put Huggle on as my Mac doesn't like running Windows programs (even with Darwine). However, I do have it on my PC and I can't remember it changing anything. So, it should be okay. :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  18:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, just a quick question here: I don't know a lot about Macs, not having ever used one (apart from McDonalds maybe), but do you use FireFox on your Mac? – B.hotep •talk• 18:28, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, nice. ;) Yes, I use Firefox as Safari is total trash. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  18:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. Yes I use FireFox (and have done for several years now) because Huggle (or any scripts) don't work properly in IE or any other I tried. When I say "doesn't work properly" – that includes some serious problems with admin tool scripts which could lead to some dangerous and/or embarrassing situations! It's just interesting to hear Huggle won't work on Mac. And even more surprising to hear one of the script wizards around here hasn't put a fix to that yet! – B.hotep •talk• 18:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) Agreed. However, Huggle works on Mac for some users (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Huggle/Wine) but not for others. I just happen to be in the "not for others" section. It would be a lot easier if someone would write a version of Huggle for Mac OS instead of us having to port it using Wine, which isn't always successful. I wish that I knew who to talk to about doing that. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  18:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I downloaded Huggle but When I try to log in it says "huggle is not enabled for your account, check user confirmation page". What do I do? Schnitzel MannGreek. 19:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you have not used Huggle before, add the text  to . - T'Shael,   Lord of the Vulcans  19:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I swear...Huggle is AMAZING:D Schnitzel MannGreek. 19:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * around 700 reverts in the last day(300 in one day) Schnitzel MannGreek . 13:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, Huggle is indeed addicting, no? ;) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  18:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Re
Hey, you stole my signature! Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  19:08, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I decided that green and blue looked better than grey and red. ;) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  19:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, I'll consider it a compliment. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  19:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm off now, but I think it answers your question more than adequately. – B.hotep •talk• 19:57, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Re your messsge
Oh, don't worry, it's all taken care of. The only account I created was an account for insecure places. Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!  21:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

HSED content
This supposed copyright infringed material is straight from a Wisconsin state law which is released to the public. I can quote the legalese or paraphrase again or some other compromise but the article is notable and complete deletion is unnecessary. Alatari (talk) 05:54, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I still think that my tag is valid, as the website in question clearly has © 2008 GED High School Corporation of America  at the bottom. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  05:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm finding the identical content on several pages all taken from the Wisconsin law. witch college, Fox Valley College, Moraine Tech. I'm not finding the entire transcript of the state law online. Alatari (talk) 06:07, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I reworded the content and could reorder the items but I'm not sure how much further I can change the wording without fundamentally changing the Wisconsins' laws meaning. Alatari (talk) 06:15, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

It's 1am I can't keep working. I'll copy the text and work on it offline then readd it if it's deleted by the time I get on tomorrow. I was shocked when I found no article on this subject so it needs something. Alatari (talk) 06:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the long reply, but I logged off as it was getting late. Anyway, if you're certain that this has been part of Wisconsin state law that is (obviously) not copyrighted, I will assume that you are right and I'll go ahead and remove the speedy tag. Thanks for your patience and happy editing! - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  21:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Talkback
I've replied there. Cheers, &rarr;  Dylan 620  (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 12:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks! It's nice to get the appreciation. --Calton | Talk 15:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Reply
Oh no, it wasn't a personal attack.This user was leading personal attacks on User talk:Matthead and me and other users like User:Until It Sleeps kept reverting them and he still kept messages of yelling on our talkpages not mine. Some other user reported this IP...so I'm not guilty here. To find more...heres the guy's talkpage:Don't worry, I don't do personal attacks and I'm well aware of the policy. This user should be blocked later on.-- Schnitzel MannGreek. 21:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that it came across as me accusing you of making personal attacks, don't worry, I was talking to the IP. :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  21:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks. I think you should leave a talkback on his page so he knows he has a message;)-- Schnitzel MannGreek . 21:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  21:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: Huggle on a Mac
I think you might have misread my comment. I got it to work on Linux, not a Mac... Sorry... Until It Sleeps Wake me 21:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well... Until It Sleeps Wake me 21:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah... Still doing planning and such. No program has really been created yet atm... We started this after Huggle 9.1 came out and everything went to hell in a handbasket with the IRC RC feed and stuff... Until It Sleeps <sup style="font-family:Segoe Print; color:green;">Wake me 21:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed that the other day when I was on a friend's PC. It couldn't connect to the recent changes feed and was acting fairly strange. Any idea what that is about? - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  04:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Spongefrog's user page
Spongefrog says on his user page to try to vandalise his page and see what happens. I'm very curious. Don't you look at my user pag. Hello?-This user IS A CAT. BriMaster2 (talk) 01:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * What the hell! The part about the cat I mean. By the way, you can have this T'Shael

That's how vain I am. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  19:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Guestbook
How do I create a guestbook? BriMaster2 (talk) 01:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just create user:BriMaster2/Guestbook and then add whatever heading/formatting that you want. You may wish to ask other editors that have guestbooks for more information. Perhaps SchnitzelMannGreek or download. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  04:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: re: Wound-licking
LOL. You're doing a lot of good work around here BTW, and improving at a steady rate from when you started. Keep it up :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 20:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Really
What, you mean they'll just do it for no particular reason. For NO REASON! I thought you needed a good reason, like someone found out who you were. I'll probably be sleeping soon, so might not respond if you re/spond/ply.

Oh, sorry, I should have re.d on my own talk page. Sorry, I hope you don't mind. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  21:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My reasoning was "I chose ThoseStarsBurnLikeDiamonds on a whim and would prefer T'Shael". So, as long as it doesn't violate policy, you're good. :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  21:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow. I had a really good username in mind, but I can't remember it now. I'll have to have a think. Do all your contribs and stuff stay the same. What about when you sign posts in discussions. Does this create a redirect. I'll have to inform everyone I've ever spoken to. Any suggestions? I was thinking of pretending to be a fictional character like User:John Carter or User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld. I'm so exited!! Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  21:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * All of your contributions are re attributed to your new username. I believe you'll have to go into Special:Preferences and change your signature, though, and renaming will not replace your old sig with your new one. Hope this helps. :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  00:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you've signed somewhere, and someone clicks on your old name, will it still go to your userpage? Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  09:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the bureaucrat will redirect it. If you'd like, I'm sure that you can look in my archives and find user:ThoseStarsBurnLikeDiamonds. Click on it, or the link I've just given you and see what happens. :) Happy editing, - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  16:36, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Good, good. Now I'll just have to think up a decient username. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  16:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) Well, what are you interested in? I chose T'Shael because I like Star Trek and T'Shael is a character in one of my favourite Star Trek novels. ThoseStarsBurnLikeDiamods is a line out of a song by the band Gloriana. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  16:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I think I'll steal User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld's idea of impersonating a Jaes Bond character. I joined the Wikiproject 1 or 2 weeks ago. Wait. I've said that already. I could be like you and call myself Mr Spock. Or just plain "Username". But I think User:Example might have taken that up already. I'll probably think for 2-5 days and then decide. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  16:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Why not try user:SmoothCriminal or user:Captain Planet? Though both of those would have to go through WP:CHUU- T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  18:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Usurpations eh? I didn't know you could do that. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  19:30, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, though the account you want to usurp should have no edits or significant log entries on any Wikimedia Project to qualify for usurpation, although rare exceptions are made where old edits do not require attribution under the GFDL. So I'm not sure that you could have either one of those. But there are plenty of usernames out there that have 0 edits that you could have. See here. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  19:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I've got a notebook containing potential usernames, I'll dec-ide next week. I was about to suggest that thing you said on my talk page, so good timing. Yes it is on my watchlist. I'll try not to stalk you. But no guarantees.  Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  20:19, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As I am rather interesting, stalking me is perfectly acceptable. ;) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  20:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Uuh...sure. Since, judging by the existence of this discussion, you do seem to be stalking my user page (which is also very interesting. I've got barnstars for it's interesting-ness). Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  20:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you . ..
. . . for this:   Un  sch  ool  23:23, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. :) I also noticed your work in reverting vandalism today, keep up the good work! Happy editing, - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  23:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

False vandalism warnings
Did you even look at the edit before issuing a warning? 98.248.32.178 (talk) 23:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page. No need to get snippy. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  23:33, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Facepalm
A facepalm is smacking your face with the palm of your hand. Soxwon (talk) 00:35, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Gary Carr (Actor)
Re your message: Yes, I would take the article to AfD as there is some claim to notability. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Answer
Disney movie Chicken Little. Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!  20:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  20:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!  20:55, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

MediaRing Talk
Looking at the article creator's history I see he/she has a similar article that has previously been deleted but then created the article in a subpage, presumable making it acceptable for inclusion. Then an admin moved that article from his/her subpage and into the main articlespace. (MediaRing Limited is the article.) After seeing that I started having doubts. I've asked another admin to check on whether or not I've been hasty. She's yet to reply. - Warthog Demon  02:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually now that I look again I see I got it backwards... the admin userfied it, not the other way around. The user moved it back into the article namespace. So maybe I was right the first time? We shall see... - Warthog Demon  02:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. We'll see, BorgQueen might delete it. My first reaction has a high success rate in real life but on Wikipedia it seems to curse me more often than not, so I thought to err on the side of caution. Better to leave a CSD-screaming article on longer, than deleting a legit article without a second thought. - Warthog Demon  03:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It would seem she decided to mark it as an advert. So I guess . . . I was right both times? :P - Warthog Demon  15:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

See? SEE? You Proved My Point!
To think just yesterday I was pointing to another editor that he tagged a CSD-article as an attack page. That "attack" was directed at Naruto... - Warthog Demon  03:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Bambifan101 and his Bottomless Drawer O'Socks
What a mess this little menace leaves in his wake (sigh). If you ever suspect that he's created still another sock, registered or not, please let me know. You da man. :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. :) You did the right thing based on what I just saw.  --PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Looked as if you were working with Collectonian on reversing some of his vandalism. I tell you, I've been editing this site on and off practically since it was founded and I've never seen anything quite like this kid. It isn't so much that he has access to multiple IPs and a dynamic one as well. It's the fact that he is still treating this as some sort of game after nearly a year, longer if an old 2006 account I blocked is actually him...which evidence says it is. It's a sad, pathetic situation. I almost feel sorry for him. Anyway, gotta run. Have a blast 'round the wiki and we'll chat again soon. Best, --PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Membership
Oh really? I had no Idea I've been around since then! I am aware, where does it say I've been around longer besides and incorrect userbox I have to fix? --- Scarce  ||||  You shouldn't have buried me,   I'm not dead --- 04:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no idea. Obviously, I misunderstood what you were trying to ask. However, sarcasm is neither warranted nor appreciated. Thanks, - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 04:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I still don't understand what Abce2 meant by August --- Scarce  ||||  You shouldn't have buried me,   I'm not dead --- 04:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure, either. The only think that I could find was the incorrect userbox that you mentioned. Other than that, I don't know. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 04:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm Baaaaaaaack!
Hey hey, what have I missed? Gracious, what trouble have you gotten yourself into since I last logged in. *tisk* Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 15:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, nothing really... ;) Glad to see you back and editing again! T'Shael,  The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Requests for permissions/Autoreviewer/Archive
Hi there T'Shael. You said you'd be willing to help with this, so I thought I should let you now that I've now set up the archive (it is located at Requests for permissions/Autoreviewer/Archive). Very easy to add new reports, just add them to the bottom of the list, creating a new month section when appropriate. Also, try and make sure that the requests are in the right order, because often (on WP:NPWatcher requests anyway) users will add their requests to the top of the list rather than the bottom. But it's not a massive problem if you miss that (just don't archive any unresolved requests). Cheers - Kingpin13 (talk)
 * Ah, cool. Is it alright to archive requests as soon as they are marked ✅ or ❌, or is there some sort of time frame that we're shooting for? Cheers, T'Shael,  The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I personally think there should always be at least some requests left on the page (it helps users making new requests see what to do). Also, I don't think we should archive them one-by-one, it's probably a better idea to do it in batches. Sometimes users aren't notified on their talk pages, so it helps them to see when they are approved. So, don't archive straight away, and preferably don't archive requests which have just passed. Otherwise, whenever you wanna :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 18:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Sounds good. :) Thanks again, - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Look up
To about post no.10 Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  19:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Didn't see that there. Actually, I took that userbox the day that I was un-shamed. ;) It's at user:T'Shael/About Me - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah right. I'm going to start handing them out to the other people who have given me barnstars. I would tell you how many, but I don't want to brag. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  20:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You?? Not wanting to brag? I can hardly believe it.. ;) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 20:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  21:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Tee Hee
Look what I did. :-D Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, seems you have turned over a new leaf as well. ;) Though, now I actually feel bad about reverting and warning user:BriMaster2 for doing pretty much what you have just done..- T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 23:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Naw, don't feel bad. The burden lies with the editor who is "vandalizing" a userpage to explain in the edit summary that they are doing so at the behest of the user. (In fact, IMHO, EVERY edit should have SOME sort of edit summary, even a cursory one.) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I must agree, edit summaries are your friend. In fact, as of late, I've gotten rather clever with my edit summaries. :) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 23:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You do realize the very edit where you said this lacked an edit summary, yes? Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * :) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 23:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) This is a little off topic, but do you have a page on Simple? - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 23:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I do not, as I haven't spent any time over there. I've been using soft redirects to my user pages here on the other WM projects that I do participate in, because A) I'm lazy and B) I spend most of my time here. Why? Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No reason, really, I was just curious. I found PMDrive1061 over there the other day and thought you might be over there, too. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 23:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See, I have an irrepressible tendency to use overcomplicated verbiage that would be exceptionally inappropriate for Simple English. :) BTW, that's one MEAN vandal. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:38, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. ;) Which vandal? The one that attacked my talk page or Littleboy? - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 23:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) Your talk page. Some vigorous anti-Chicago, anti-Illinois sentiment from that one. Indefinitely blocked now, of course. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:43, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Yeah, I agree. The vandals are out in full force today. It makes for an interesting day on the 'pedia, though. :) Why don't you fire up Huggle and help us out? - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 23:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I love to do that, Huggle is amazing and I should get to work at it now:D Schnitzel MannGreek . 23:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I will, as soon as I get home - still at work, and my work computer is not Huggle-friendly. I've done some old-school, manual RC patrolling from here. It's easier with the help of Popups and Twinkle, and if you look at only those edits from IPs, but it's still a pain. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) I can empathize. I'm on a PC now (obviously), but my main computer is a Mac and I can't seem to get Huggle to cooperate on it. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 23:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * PC rules! :) I had some IRC-related trouble with the new version of Huggle before I went on my break, which I hope was a temporary glitch. (PS: When doing manual patrol, filtering out logged-in users means you miss vandalism-only accounts like the one that was just bothering you. But since most vandalism comes from IPs, it's a good strategy for focusing on edits most likely to be suspect.) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I absolutely loathe PCs. Mainly because my signature looks like sin on them. ;) The IRC problems with Huggle seem to be fixed, though, as I haven't had any trouble with them. When I'm on my Mac I usually sit in on the counter vandalism unit's IRC channel as edits that could possibly be vandalism are reported there. Though, you get a lot of edits that are not, so you have to mainly keep an eye on IPs. Manual patrolling sucks. ;) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 23:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That it does. And on that note, home I go! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 00:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Just curious, where would I go to send a user an email via wiki? No one in particular, just in case I need it in the future. Thanks;) Schnitzel MannGreek . 23:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * On the very left of user pages, underneath the heading "toolbox", you should see a link that says "Email this user". - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 23:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, and if you don't see the link, the user probably has email disabled. You can also try typing "Special:EmailUser/USERNAME" in the search box and hit GO. If you get an error, than the user has email disabled. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, both of you;) Schnitzel MannGreek . 23:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Defender of the Wiki?
I took your advice and did some serious Huggle-work. In the course of said work, I came up against this. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 04:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * lol. "I filed a report against you at the admin's noticeboard for edit warring." "I've done nothing wrong, thank you" "Wrong. Blocked for 24 hours". ;) - T'Shael,' The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 04:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just another day on the 'pedia. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 04:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I had a somewhat similar experience the other day with an IP address. Though I made a mistake and warned him for tagging a page for deletion he was rather persnickety with me and ending up getting blocked later for edit warring. Made me feel somewhat better..;) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 04:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * More from my Huggle-work: An example of "kind of funny, but still vandalism, sorry." Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 04:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) lol, I noticed that earlier on your talk page. You've got to give them credit for originality. ;) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 04:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And the fight isn't over yet. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 18:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Goodness, will the fun never end? - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Dopple
Please create User:ASE for me. Thanks. - ALLST✰R ▼ echo wuz here 08:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's faster to submit a request at ACC, as multiple accountcreators handle requests there. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know that but he made an offer to do it during another discussion elsewhere so I came here to his page to request it. - ALLST✰R ▼ echo wuz here 17:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Translation: drags his heels. :D – B.hotep •talk• 15:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Even Vulcans have to sleep . :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 15:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ You've got mail. :) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) To Bubba, perhaps I need to put my sporadic banner back..:) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

What about User:Ase? Hasn't edited since 2006. Anyway to get that one too? - ALLST✰R ▼ echo wuz here 18:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm.. I'm not really sure. I wouldn't think so, as that user has 20 or so edits attributed to them, however I honestly don't know. The only thing that I can think to do would be to put in a request at WP:CHUU and then if you are renamed, put in another request to go back to Allstarecho. Then, since you'll have control of both accounts, make user:Ase a redirect. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Per Changing_username/Usurpations, please create User:AllstarechoTEMP. - ALLST✰R ▼ echo wuz here 18:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:00, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. - ALLST✰R ▼ echo wuz here 19:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Your New Box
I can't say it's my FAVORITE but I've come to the REALIZATION that it is not GARBAGE. :-P

(Translation: I can't say it's my favourite but I've come to the realisation that it is not rubbish.)

Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 13:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, it has its charm, no? ;) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's colourful, to say the least. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 18:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it adds a certain charm. I got the idea from user:Scarce correcting user:Abce2's spelling of "apologise", and then found that nice box at user:Manning Bartlett's talk page. With a little tweaking, my wonderful box was complete. :) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

June 2009
I noticed that you have posted comments in a language other than English. When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, please provide a translation of the comments. For more details, see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. :-P I am, of course, being goofy. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL, nice. ;) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 20:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I was about to delete all that there, until I read the bit in italics. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  20:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Vicenarian has an interesting sense of humour. ;) Thanks for looking out, though, Sponge. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 20:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Exuse me
This my be kind of random, but what is it called, a circle with a line through it? It's ironic that some of the most common things are the essiest to forget. I hope this is not a bother, Abce2 |  Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!  20:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that you may be thinking of null set. Though your question was rather vague, can you clarify at all? - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 20:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Here is a picture.
 * Oh, okay. That's the no symbol. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 20:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!  20:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Slashed zero, or could mean diameter: large O with slash for outer, small O with slash for inner. Or characters commonly used in Nordic languages, such as.... the ones in Scandinavia. Or what T'Shael said. Sorry, shouldn't have bothered after 2 edit conflicts! – B.hotep •talk• 20:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, Abce2. And we do appreciate your input, Bubba, even if it is a little late. ;) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 20:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It was before the picture. Feel a bit silly now. Still, it is educational at least. – B.hotep •talk• 20:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Please Stop
My dispute between Kingpin and myself is none of your concern. Please butt out. Scarletspeedster7 (talk) 21:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * When you make personal attacks against another editor, that makes it my concern. Please also be aware that removing a warning off of your talk page is an acknowledgment of having read it. You may also want to work on your civility- T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 22:00, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Any further personal attacks WILL be reported and you WILL be blocked. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

WP:DENY
I find instantaneous post-block changes-of-heart extremely suspect. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 00:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I must agree with you. As soon as the unblock is denied and he is locked out of his talkpage, I'm sure an admin (I'll bug PMDrive if he comes online) will replace everything with just the block template. - T'Shael, The Infernal Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 00:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You may also not be aware that I reverted three attacks against Closedmouth before the user attacked me (I gave them a final warning which was then removed). Thanks for reverting that BTW :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 00:47, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) Hmm, I didn't notice that, seems this user has a problem with being told that he is wrong. I'm ready for school to start back up so the kiddies will have something better to do that dick around on Wikipedia. - T'Shael, The Infernal Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 00:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Take a look at his page. I left him a message. Hope it was worthwile and would reach his senses. What do you think? Schnitzel MannGreek . 00:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe that Vicenarian was correct and we should just WP:DENY. Eventually an admin will notice his unblock request, most likely deny it, and then lock him out of his talk page when he starts to tirade. - T'Shael, The Infernal Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 00:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course, denying is the best thing to do know, the user has voiced their opinion, we ours, and we'll wait for someone to review the unblock request. Hey, pinch punch first of the month ;) (just gone midnight here)... isn't it going to be annoying to have to start giving warnings different header names ("July" rather than "June")... That always gets to me ;) - Kingpin13 (talk) 00:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) Good grief. I hadn't even realised that today was June 30th. It will be weird seeing "July" headers everywhere. - T'Shael, The Infernal Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 00:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think my post was in vain, I think my soft-spoken words hit him. See his reply:(:I really appreciate what you said. You're right.  I shouldn't have such a hot temper.  However, do you see where I am coming from?  No one gives anyone the time of day to explain anything.  That's just wrong.  There should be something said for compassion.  However, I see where I am in the wrong.  In the future, I will dispute things with a much more civil tone. Scarletspeedster7 (talk) 00:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)))--what do you think? Schnitzel  MannGreek . 01:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Things were explained to him very clearly by Closedmouth, and he responded with this, and I much worse attack made on his page (which has now been deleted). - Kingpin13 (talk) 01:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And, to quote Vicenarian, "I find instantaneous post-block changes-of-heart extremely suspect". - T'Shael, The Infernal Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 01:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But I gave him "wise words of wisdom" and he seemed to grasp it(see his talk page)It was as if he was a different person. Let us assume good waith here and give him a last chance. He seems sincere and willing to edit constructively.I shall be a mentor to him and make sure he doesn't revert back to his old ways Schnitzel MannGreek . 01:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I find it incredibly hard to assume good faith on a user like this. Ultimately, though, it is not up to any of us as none of us have the tools to unblock him. - T'Shael, The Infernal Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 01:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you are right. Well, we tried;) Schnitzel MannGreek . 01:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem...
... And thank you for your revert :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 07:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Message bar
Sorry, i'll change it, but how come? its a joke...

Peace out ---> C  B  U  08:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CalcbikeUSBPriapPs2 (talk • contribs)

uh, okay then, can I put something retarded like " your message box has been nuked " ?

Thanx C  B  U  08:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CalcbikeUSBPriapPs2 (talk • contribs)

Howzit now :)

C B  U  08:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CalcbikeUSBPriapPs2 (talk • contribs)

Hmmph.. That'd be boring so i'm just going to remove it :/ Anyway thanks for the tip

Out --> C  B  U  08:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CalcbikeUSBPriapPs2 (talk • contribs)

So...
...you're infernal now? Interesting. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, yep. I was promoted earlier today. ;) - T'Shael, The Infernal Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 02:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking about putting up a banner on my talk page soliciting opinions for my sig, so if you have any suggestions...- T'Shael, The Infernal Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 02:34, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This is off topic, but here's my "Funny Revert of the Day." As to your sig, I would suggest a space between "T'Shael," and whatever you put after it. But that's just me. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, I think I like that version better. ;) - T'Shael, The Infernal Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 02:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Infernal, kinda reminds me of User:Inferno, Lord of Penguins;)I like it:D Schnitzel MannGreek . 02:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) I've been toying with the idea of changing my user name to user:T'Shael, The Infernal Knight-Lord of Vulcan. ;) - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 02:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Marone, what a mouthful! :)  When my grandson was born last year, I was joking about having him refer to me as "King Leopold the First" as opposed to "Grandpa" as he grew older.  This would be fine if my name was actually Leopold to begin with.  In any event, thanks much for the assist on that user's concern.  Oh, and I'm going to drop you an e-mail to tell you of some of the wondrous Star Trek goodies my brother has collected of late.  Gotta stare at the backs of my eyelid for a few hours first, starting right about...zzzzzzzzz...--PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:01, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It has a certain charm, though, don't you think? ;) About like User:Dictator of all Infernal Proletariat Penguins in the USSR. Anyway, not a problem in regard to that user on your talk page. In fact, I see you've gone one better. You are quite the helpful admin when you want to be. ;) Looking forward to your email, and have a good night. Cheers, t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat  07:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It feels good to have inspired someone XD Inferno,   Lord of   Penguins  03:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, yep. I am quite the shameless thief. ;) - t'shael chat 03:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I should get myself renamed to User:Inferno, Knight-Lord of t'shael's Vulcan Penguins in the USSR.... Inferno,  Lord of   Penguins  03:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, they'd sure love you at WP:CHU. ;) I happen to like the name, though. - t'shael chat 09:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
For the userpage revert. I had J.Delanoy semi it, because it's annoying when your own user page keeps popping to the top of your Huggle queue. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 18:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, agreed. :) And most of the time the vandalism isn't even interesting. - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 19:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * As a bonus, a fun revert just for you. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:37, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, you should have let that one stay. That was good stuff. :) - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 19:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Worst case of ongoing vandalism I've ever seen. Coordinated attacks like that... some sort of spambot? I had to beg J to semi-protect because it was taking RPP too long. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, it's NHL trade day. That explains that. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(outdent)(ec) Ah, okay. ;) Way to edit conflict me out of a long reply ;). - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 19:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, I took you up on your offer to edit your userpage.. ;) - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 20:01, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * (ec) My roommate is a rabid hockey fan, so I'm surprised he hasn't... oh yes, he HAS Twittered about it. In any case, that was brutal. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It was pretty impressive. Don't articles that are about to be "in the news" so to speak, usually get preemptive protection? - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 20:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Protection isn't usually used in a preemptive manner, only in response to actual vandalism. But if something is in the news and is a target because of that, the guidelines suggest protecting for the as long as the target is "in the public eye." Also, thanks for the user page edit, cleans it up rather nicely. :-) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:08, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Makes sense. No problem. :) - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 20:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

←Actually, that comes from the essay WP:ROUGH, but I think it's the philosophy followed by most sysops. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicenarian (talk • contribs) 20:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. I suppose sysops that don't follow that would fall under the category of "rogue". - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 20:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * In the eyes of some, sure. :) And see, that's why I "opted-in" to SineBot, even though I'm an "established user." TILDETILDETILDETILDE Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Does your opting in to SineBot "override" my talk page's opting out? - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 20:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You can only opt-in or out for yourself, I think. I'm pretty sure SineBot will sign any talk comment on any talk page (and non-talk auto-signed pages) if you use the {YesAutosign} flag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicenarian (talk • contribs) 20:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Meh. I guess you're right. That sucks, I hate edit conflicting with SineBot. - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 20:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

←Type faster! Or only let people who can properly sign on your page. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I should make a notice for that: "If you cannot properly sign your comments, you will be banned from editing this talk page". - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 20:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Uh huh, 'cause that would sure be friendly. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Friendly, schmindly. ;) - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 20:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Derrick Pitts
Hello T'Shael, I recently made the page for Derrick Pitts, and you tagged it believing that it was an autobiography. This is certainly understandable given that we coincidentally share the same name. HOWEVER, we are different people. I am Derrick Pitts, a teenage college student from Texas. I apologize for the confusion and thanks for the warm welcome, regardless. DePitts (talk) 23:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, interesting. Fair enough. Considering that the tone of the article is relatively neutral, I'll assume good faith and remove the autobiography tag. I hope that you enjoy Wikipedian and being a Wikipedian. Happy editing, t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat  23:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

No Problem.
Yeah no problem. I had just seen that kind of thing around before and decided to make my own variation. Didn't realize that is was decided against them. Thanks for the note!-- Gordonrox24  &#124; Talk 00:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) Happy editing, t'shael chat 01:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Thought I'd drop in and say hello. By the way, here's my funny revert for the day--. Had it not been vandalism, it would deserve a barnstar of good humor to that user:D. Where do they come up with this stuff? Schnitzel MannGreek. 02:33, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I must disagree as I don't find racism particularly humorous. - t'shael chat 03:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm with T'Shael on this one. I find that sort of vandalism particularly egregious. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ya, you guys are right. But that is one of the strangest vandal acts I've ever reverted? Wierd people out there:D Schnitzel MannGreek . 13:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Beauty Rock
Hmm, well I'm already watching two articles I've nominated for deletion, so I'll let you have the fun this time if you want. :) - Warthog Demon  03:56, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, sounds good to me. :) - t'shael chat 03:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Your opinion
Good Day;) I wanted to ask you, what do you think of my new created article:2,000 Romanian Lei Note. I made this today(which is why I haven't done as much vandal reverting which I will soon;)) Schnitzel MannGreek. 16:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW, HERE IS A REALLY FUNNY REVERT Schnitzel MannGreek . 20:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Since it is dealing with a year, why not move it to 2000 Romanian Lei Note and remove the comma? - t'shael chat 20:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem with that is that there are other banknotes of romania printed in 2000. This one was actually prited up till 2004. But the article is about one single denomination and one specific note....the only Romanian banknote with the denomination of 2000 and that kind.Thi banknote was a novelty in Romania at that time. But 2000 (year) banknotes include more-- Schnitzel MannGreek . 21:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You said it was dealing with a year, but the article isn't. The reason its denomination is 2,000 is because the eclipse was the last of the millinneium and close to 2000. But there are other banknotes in the year 2000. This one actually deals with the eclipse. Schnitzel MannGreek . 21:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. I thought that the article was talking about a specific banknote released in the year 2000. Perhaps before commenting I should read the whole article first. ;) - T'Shael the Sock Talk to my master 22:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

(outdent)Thank You very much for the kind reply, May I bug you one last time? What do you think of this Zia (New Mexico). I didn't create this but pretty much wrote the whole thing(except the section called Zia Sun Symbol)This was a stub that I expanded for WikiProject New Mexico and wasa wondering how it is now. Schnitzel MannGreek. 01:58, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Re:Finger Template
Okay shael, I'll change it, just don't delete the page for a moment, i'll modify it so it has nothing to do with wikihate :)

from C  B  U  05:46, 3 July 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CalcbikeUSBPriapPs2 (talk • contribs)

Re:Your message
Yes, you probaly have that an more, so I talk it over with every one. Oh, and the general of the vandalism patrol is elected. Just some info. You can join if you want to. Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!  14:11, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

"Penguins" mix-up
I am SUCH a doofus. I was protecting so many Bambifan targets that some of the ones I protected were accidently placed under full protection, which is the default. "Penguins of Madagascar" got the full protection treatment, I fear. I've reset the protection level to "semi-protect." --PMDrive1061 (talk) 17:30, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

What is this "Bambifan" thing anyway? I keep hearing it everywhere. Is it some sort of rampant sockpuppeteer, or vandal. And you even have to protect several pages so it doesn't get them. I'm scared! <:(  Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  17:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Bambifan is an annoying arse that thinks it is funny to vandalise Disney articles and sock. Check out this for a list of all his socks. - t'shael chat 19:32, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Ain't he just the cutest thing, though? Naturally, he's the reason I had to block the article in the first place and boom. More collateral damage because I set the block too high. If you ever run into another of my overly protected boo-boos, please let me know. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:58, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

re: SDPatrolBot
Hi there T'Shael. That's what it's supposed to (and genrally does) do. Could you please provide a link to the page where it didn't do this so I can look into it further? Cheers - Kingpin13 (talk) 20:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh right. No you're right (although you're actually thinking of level 3 warnings). Once it reaches level 3, it'll just keep handing them out (without ever going to level 4) since removing speedy tags shouldn't really be a blockable offence if that's the only thing the user has done (and especially if the page didn't meet CSD). So the bot just keeps giving them level 3 warnings until an admin comes (admins will be notified due to the CSD tag) and (if appropriate) blocks. The most notable case would be this, you can see the bot starts with level 1, then 2, and then a lot of level 3s, and then an admin comes along, and blocks. - Kingpin13 (talk) 21:06, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay. That makes more sense, then. Thanks for clearing that up for me. :) - t'shael chat 21:27, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Online Status
Just curious, how do you put that exact box you have that tells your online status/ Thank You in advance :) Schnitzel MannGreek . 00:35, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * First create user:SchnitzelMannGreek/Status as that is the page that will update it. Then place on your user or talk page. :) - t'shael chat 00:36, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What do I write in the page? Schnitzel MannGreek . 00:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Either "Online" "Recently online" or "Offline". "Recently online" produces the one that you see me use the most often ("T'Shael is currently Busy. I may not be actively editing, but I am around."). :) Hope that this helps, t'shael chat 00:43, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

(outdent). Hi, do you know how I could and whee to nominate something for the 'did you know...."? Schnitzel MannGreek . 18:46, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, all the instructions can be found here. Best, t'shael chat 19:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

CBU
Hi shael ^_^. I'm nuking this account because it's such a long name, i'll notify you when I create my new account ☺. Bye C  B  U  03:05, 4 July 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CalcbikeUSBPriapPs2 (talk • contribs)
 * Why don't you put in a request at WP:CHU? - t'shael chat 03:07, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Using nowiki on files etc.
Hi, I saw you used nowiki around the file link you added to J.delanoy's page. But an easier way to do this (which also works with categories), is to add a colon after the two square brackets, resulting in. Best - Kingpin13 (talk) 22:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Damn, I knew that there was a way to do that and nowiki didn't really work out the way I wanted. Thanks. :) t'shael chat 22:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, 'course, nowiki doesn't give you the link does it (I didn't look at the result, just the diff :D). Anyway, not a problem :). - Kingpin13 (talk) 22:12, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No, you're right, nowiki gives you [[File:RuthieHenshall.jpg]] . And, I had wanted to give J.delanoy a link so that he could look at the fair use rationale for that image. I'm glad that someone who knows what they're doing either stalks my edits or J.delanoy's talk page. ;) t'shael chat 22:14, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha, still got his talk page on my watchlist from all that vandalism sysops were getting a while ago, and since I recognised your name, and was wondering what mistake you had made this time ;P (since your edit summary was "ah, sorry"). Be the way, happy Independence Day, if you celebrate it or something (I'm not actually American, and the only way I remember the date is from the Bruce Springsteen song "Darlington County" and I was just listening to "Independence Day" now). Anyway, enough rambling, I must be off, since it's nearly 12pm where I am - Kingpin13 (talk) 22:23, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * To be fair, my edit summary was "ack, sorry". ;) It seems I've been rather mistake prone lately. Oh, and thanks for the Independence Day wishes, same to you (even if you aren't American ;)). Keep up the good work and I hope to see you back at RfA before 2009 is over. Best, t'shael chat 22:26, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thought I'd drop in and say: "HAPPY INDEPENDANCE DAY!!";) Schnitzel MannGreek . 03:32, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

←Thanks. :) And to you, as well. :) - t'shaél chat 03:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know
But could this be a sleeper sock? User:It is me again

Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!  00:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, kinda hard to say giving this user has no edits. Wait until she edits and then, given the caliber of her edits, you should be able to deduce her intentions more clearly. Either way, it's hard to tell based on user name alone. - t'shael chat 00:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

He has edited. You can check out the controbutions and decied, because I'm not sure. Any idea? Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!  14:57, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Doesn't look familiar to me. However, Vicenarian has had experience with users vandalising the Naruto article, so you may ask him. Best, t'shaél chat 21:56, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I've never seen that article before. :) My feeling is that the user is worth watching, since the first few edits seem to be less-than-constructive, but no immediate cause for alarm Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:06, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My apologies, then, I must be confusing you with someone else. I could have sworn that you had told me about Naruto, but I guess not. Either way, I agree with you that they're worth watching. t'shaél "chat 23:08, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No apologies needed, I am humbled that you would recommend others seek my wisdom. :) Hope you've had a good weekend. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:57, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's been pretty good. Spent most of it actually editing the 'pedia as opposed to my usual (reverting vandals). Et tu? - t'shaél chat 00:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

←Outside of the celebratory cookouts with friends and family, not a whole lot. I find Huggle to be a great stress-reliever. I can spend hours just wiping away vandalism and it leaves me with such a satisfied feeling. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I just wish Huggle had a more.. "fearsome" name. ;) - t'shaél chat 01:36, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Zia (New Mexico)
Thank You for changing it fro start to stub. But don't you think it qualifies for at least C-class (or maybe b)?I nominated it for DYK and it has a high chance. But don't you think it's at least a "C"?I've seem shorter content artcles that are a "c", this on is detailed.-- Schnitzel MannGreek. 13:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * My Two thousand lei (Romanian banknote) was shorter yet it achieved a "C" status. Schnitzel MannGreek . 13:56, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm really kind of hesitant to assess articles which I have made more than minor contributions. I just changed it from stub to start because it is obviously not a stub. ;) - t'shaél chat 20:09, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Hello T'SHale you hav messages at Zia (New Mexico)

That's my home made talkback template. I know I'm not supposed to put them here, but since it's not my talk page, I thought I'd put one here. Although you probably have that Zia page watchlisted. In fact, you've probably responded already. This is a message in itself, so you can't count it 100% a talkback notice. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  20:44, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I usually loathe talkback templates, but as this one is homemade, I'll let it slide. ;) And yes, I have Talk:Zia (New Mexico) on my watchlist and have already responded to you. :) - t'shaél chat 20:46, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I just noticed that. I've responded again. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  20:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The DYK might accept Zia but they told me that in order for Two thousand lei (Romanian banknote) to be accepted, I must fix the referances. I think they said something about a special tag for using a referance twice or more. Somebody already fixed it for Zia, but can you do it to the Romanian one for I don't have that much experience with referances. Thanks;) Schnitzel MannGreek . 21:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm actually not sure how to do that myself ("special tag for using a reference twice or more), but if you find out could you let me know? I need to do that with an article that I'm trying to get to GA. Thanks, t'shaél chat 21:51, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Referencing for beginners has some useful stuff they said but I don't have time to read it now. Can you fix my article when you learn how. I'm trying to get both confirmed for DYK before traveling cross-country tommorrow;) Schnitzel MannGreek . 21:54, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, but I probably won't be able to get around to it until later tonight. - t'shaél chat 21:57, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
For the removing of the vandalism from my talking page. :) Crafty (talk) 22:04, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) - t'shaél chat 22:05, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Shania
I keep visiting your userpage just to look at her picture... Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, that was the idea. :) She is quite the lovely lady. - t'shaél chat 05:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's almost a travesty that her article is a "C"..- t'shaél chat 05:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Re
T'Shael:

Thank you.

Sherlock4000 (talk) 09:11, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem whatsoever. Happy editing! :) - t'shaél chat 09:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Teamwork is teh good
I saw that you were intrested in callaborating on an article with another user and I'd be happy to join in if you want;)(as soon as I get back from vacation).My plane got delayed so I was able to stay here and decided to pop in. Thanks for the teamwork you and User:Spongefrog did to the Zia article(approved for DYK along with the Romanian one).I think we all deserve a teamwork barnstar for that;)It would be funny if each of us awarded one to the next-LOL;)See you around Schnitzel MannGreek . 13:11, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me
How would someone run Huggle on a Macbook? Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!(Sign here)  19:31, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you think one of us should replace the user status thing up above? I've been waiting for T'Shael to respond all day. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  20:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, sorry, just got on. :) As for running Huggle on a Macbook, the instructions are here. A caveat though, it doesn't work for some users (myself included). - t'shaél chat 20:07, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't ever go offline. You're too valuable. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, even I have to sleep sometime. ;) t'shaél chat 20:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Why aren't you an administrator. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  20:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Because I've never put in a RfA (only had an account for a little over 2 months, you see). - t'shaél chat 20:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Feel free to nominate him. Or me! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

←As flattered as I am, I already have a nominator for when I decide to put in a request. Please don't nominate Vicenarian. He'll break the Wiki. :/ - t'shaél chat 20:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Only 2 months! I've had an account for 4¼ months. I've got to start using Huggle, whatever that is. And no I won't nominate eother of you. Administrators don't trust me. They secretly hate me. But feel free to nominate me (although I know you won't, all I'm good at is getting Barnstars "which you can see HERE ". That's quickly becoming my catchphrase, it appears like 15 times on my userpage. I'm also good at self-promotion and telling people useless information). Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  20:36, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

←I will not! I'll only bruise it slightly. With my SWIFT FIST OF ANTI-VANDAL JUSTICE! Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Too many editors currently. - t'shaél chat 23:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Article assessment
Hey, remember that time when I assessed an article you expanded? Good times, good times. :P Could you, per chance, return the favor over at William Henry Sheppard? Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 05:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha, those were good times indeed. Sure. :) - t'shaél chat 05:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm eagerly awaiting a reply, with a bit of a review if you don't mind. Note though: the article recently came out of the sandbox and the other author and I found little bits of notes to ourselves in it. It would be great (if any still exist) if those were promptly removed. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 05:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * First, let me say that I thoroughly enjoyed reading this article, and walked away from it infinitely more informed than I had been.
 * The article itself is very well written. I found no flaws in the prose and the spelling and grammar are correct.
 * The article is factually accurate and verifiable, all the references are cited (excellent use of inline citations) and formatted properly. All the references pass WP:RS.
 * It seems appropriately broad in coverage as it gives a total over view of his life, but doesn't go off on tangents that are unrelated to the subject.
 * Neutral in tone, if bias is present it is not evident to me.
 * Excellent use of images to help illustrate the article. All the images are copyright compliant and the captions are concise and informative.
 * I rated it as a 'B' because I am not a good article reviewer, however, I believe it would pass a GA nomination and suggest that you submit it for one. I hope that I was helpful to you, and if you would like clarification on anything that I have said, feel free to ask. :) Best, t'shaél chat 05:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That was a very nice review, thank you. I plan on taking it to GA (and Recog already put it up for DYK). Thanks especially for the nice bits on the images and citations, things I like to hear I did well. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 05:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

←Always glad to be of help. :) If you ever need anything else, you know where to find me. Best, t'shaél chat 05:55, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose asking for a GA review would be asking for too much, but it never hurts. (In all seriousness though, you don't need to; that review was really nice, and I'd understand it if you didn't want to do a GAR.) Thanks again, and have a nice evening. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 06:05, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that it would be better to leave that to someone in the Good Article Wikiproject. comes highly recommended. :) Cheers, t'shaél chat 06:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Requests for permissions/Autoreviewer/Archive again
Hi there, me again :). You made a slight mistake when you were archiving (fixed now), here, you added those archived requests under July 2009, even though they were all made in June. I presume you just misread, or thought I had already done all of last months or sumat. Anyway, not a big deal :), just thought I should point it out to you - Kingpin13 (talk) 09:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for AGF, but in all actuality I had a massive brain fart. For some reason I thought "hey, it's July, that means that all these requests magically happened in July and not in June like all the bloody date stamps say." I apologise, it shan't happen again. - t'shaél chat 10:19, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, don't worry about it :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 11:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for reverting the vandalism on my talk page --<b style="font-family:Segoe Print; color:blue;">Until It Sleeps</b> <sup style="font-family:Segoe Print; color:green;">Wake me 13:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) - t'shaél chat 20:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

In Which T'Shael Steals My Ideas
I was putting "in which" on collapsed threads before it was cool. :-P Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:28, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, true, but you didn't start collapsing threads until I stole the idea from Bubba. :P - t'shaél chat 20:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This is, in fact, true. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:42, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And I, in turn, stole it from... another admin who I can't remember... I will, of course, claim it as my own invention, however. :) – B.hotep •talk• 22:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Will the circle of theft never end? ;) - t'shaél chat 22:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

←Nope. I stole using the arrow character to indicate "outdent" from Bubba. And then T'Shael stole it from me. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess if I'm going to steal things it should be from editors that I don't converse with often. Now only if you would steal always signing your comments from me :) - t'shaél chat 01:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * TILDETILDETILDETILDE Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * As we wend our way through Wiki-life, I think it is inevitable that we will pick up quirks, mannerisms and habits of our fellow contributors. I got the outdent arrow from Alf – I saw him do it once and thought it was the norm. I also got the small aside from him! – B.hotep •talk• 11:24, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ruthie Henshall
Reference cleanup in progress. I had a thought about getting a picture for the article - you might want to email her agent or her assistant (email addresses here) and ask if there is a photo of her that they are willing to give us for free use. WP:COPYREQ is a useful how-to on requesting permission. I did the same for Lucy Activewear, emailing their PR spokesperson, who was very enthusiastic about getting me pictures of a Lucy store interior and exterior for the article (though has yet to do so). Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 15:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, I use WP:REFTOOLS for easy citation formatting. It's so easy, a caveman could do it! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 18:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Done! Put in an image placeholder. Also, there were a few problems I noted along the way with tags. I'm not sure the site labeled as her father's site is actually her father's site (if you check the "My Family" section, no mention of a Ruthie, famous or not, is made). Also, I'm hesitant about The Hoffman Institute citation, as it's an intermediate source (with a potential COI) ostensibly pulling from another source... I'm sure it's fine, but per WP:CITE, we have to cite the Hoffman website, not the paper. There are also a few other things. The site with biographical data on her kids is pay-only, so that doesn't work as a WP:RS. There's a minor contradiction that needs to be cleared... some copyediting... haha, take a look, I'm making mincemeat out of your baby. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Be nice to her, she's all I have in this world...:) Seriously, though, I appreciate you doing this very much. :) t'shaél chat 20:24, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I removed the reference to her "father's" site as it so totally isn't. ;) I can't believe that I didn't think to explore that site more fully, but just googled "David Henshall" and went for broke. I didn't add the ref about her kids, so I didn't know that it was pay only, so I'll add "sourcing her children" to my list for that article. Also, I fixed the contradiction. :) - t'shaél chat 20:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

←I am happy to help, of course. Maybe I should write an essay on "scrutinizing sources." There's a LOT of tenuous sourcing I see out there; I mostly just grin and bear it. Even here, I hate the reliance on so many non-independent sources (her official website, her agent's website) because, you know, people can write whatever they want about themselves, even celebrities. I guess that's why our standard is "verifiability" not "truth." Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:47, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This is true. I could write on my official website that I was the first man on the moon, but if it's unverifiable it's still crap. I guess I need to scour through Google and verify everything with independent sources. Is WP:CRAPPYSOURCES coming up? ;) - t'shaél chat 20:50, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I mean, ideally, all information we add here would have an independent, reliable, third-party source. However, that's not always going to be the case. That's why we cite. We have standards to determine "reliable sources," but really, we leave it up to the reader to decide the precise level of reliability of any particular source. I don't think it's necessary to scour Google for 100% independent sourcing, though it could hurt. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:55, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if it could hurt, then I won't do it. ;) Seriously, though, there's just not a a whole lot of sources about her that are reliable, but, I will dig deeper. :) And, I really appreciate your help with this. t'shaél chat 20:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No need for the profuse thanks, that's what I'm here for - to make Wikipedia the most accurate, most complete compendium of knowledge known to man. Knowledge is power, and should be available to all and to all for free. It's a big job, but hey, someone has to do it. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "Knowledge is power"? Bill Nye? :) - t'shaél chat 21:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

←Lol, that phrase has been around looooong before the Science Guy. Though I DO love him dearly. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:09, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I could've sworn that he originated it. Ah well, T'Shael is wrong again. :) - t'shaél chat 21:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Naw, I think the Romans did. However, you could be right... or we both could be wrong. *shrugs* :) Have fun Huggling! I'm off to dinner. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:57, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that we're both wrong and it was coined by . ;) Enjoy your dinner, old chap, as I will enjoy Huggling. :) - t'shaél chat 22:59, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Butterfingers
Oops. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:20, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Fail. I did that one time.. on WP:AIV.. to a sysop. :) - t'shaél chat 02:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I was searching through my contribs to give you a diff to look at, but I can't seem to find it.. strange. - t'shaél chat 02:38, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Is that a double fail? Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * :( - t'shaél chat 02:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, cheer up, frowny face. We did good for the Wiki today. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

←Haha, you did, sure, but all I've done is repeatedly violate WP:NOTMYSPACE. :) - t'shaél chat 02:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * In what way? Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:53, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh, I guess I really haven't. Most of my comments today have had to do with the 'Pedia. Perhaps what I should have said is, "I haven't really done anything useful, just made comments on talk pages". Actually, I did review an article for Wikiproject Biography today. - t'shaél chat 02:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh, I think you're allowed a little leeway when chatting on user talk pages... just as long as you don't get into long debates about politics, religion, philosophy, soda brands, etc., you're probably okay. And as for your activity today, I see some good Huggling, and that's never something to sniff at. You also quite patiently put up with my persnicketiness over Ruthie. All in all, a fine Wikiday. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Persnickety? Please be advised this talk page uses British English and thus, persnickety should be "pernickety". :) I guess today wasn't a total waste, I'm just a tad disappointed, I guess. I did find a reliable reference for Ruthie's children and hubby, though. So, I'm proud of that. :) - t'shaél chat 03:06, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

No more Account Creator?
Pourquoi? Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Vous stalker! Pas de raison, d'autres que je viens a estimé qu'il était temps de passer de la ACC. :) - t'shaél chat 03:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I understood what you said (four years of high school French for you, go US public schools), but cannot reply in kind. :) Even if you don't think you'll have enough time, why not hang on to the right for now? You never know, and it can't hurt. And yes, I stalk MANY talk pages, muhahahaha. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:56, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I see your point. If I ever need it back, though, I don't think that J.delanoy will have a problem re-adding it to my user rights, as I left in "good standing". I'm glad that you could understand what I said, though, as my French is a little rusty. :) t'shaél chat 04:01, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What exactly is an account creator. Is it good? Can I be one! Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  10:37, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Per WP:PERM, "Account creator: The account creator flag is granted to users who are active in the account request process. The flag removes the limit on the maximum number of new accounts that can be created in a 24 hour period. It also allows users to make accounts with names similar to other accounts. The account creator flag is only given to users who participate in the ACC process and may be removed without notice should a user's participation in the account creation process cease." Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Can I ask another question?
Is there any way of making more archives, with about 30 posts each? And would I have to do it myself, without MiszabotIII. Because archive one has like 70+ posts in it and it makes me sad (feel free to change the heading of this...uh...thing). And can I steal your talk page idea with the boxes that hide text (I don't know what to call them). I'll give you credit! And I'll only use it on the archives, so hardly anybody will see it. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  10:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

In fact, just ignore the first part of that comment, I'll do it manually. But don't ignore the second part. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  11:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You can certainly steal the collapsed box idea, as T'Shael stole it from Bubba and I stole it from T'Shael. Continue the cycle of theft! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 11:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I think you actually need collapser rights to use the collapsing threads. It is a very fine art, knowing when to collapse and when not to. I mean, if you were to collapse every thread, you would find it hard to know when a new comment had been left without checking the history. I believe it should be done in moderation and without willy-nillery (c)B.hotep 2009 . However, it seems that nobody patrols the collapsers user-rights request page, so any T, V or Harry can do it. :D – B.hotep •talk• 12:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * So are you basically saying I shouldn't do it. I won't if you don't want me to. I'm only going to use it for archives, if it makes any difference. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  16:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I just saw the smiley face, so I'll assume I'm allowed to (I won't yet though). Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  16:05, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, Sponge, you are correct, there's no special user right needed to collapse threads on your own talk page. Bubba was being his usual playful self. Go right ahead and do it. He does have a good point, though, that collapsing threads too soon can cut off discussion too early and cause you to miss new comments added after the collapse. Basically, you've got to watch the page history like a hawk. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 17:21, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Aaarrghh! Why do people keep doing that!!? They should put the ":D"s in bold. I'm only going to use it for archives anyway, so it shouldn't matter too much. It's funny that a discussion has went on this long without a single comment by T'Shael. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  17:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, humor is often hard to detect online. As for lack of comment from T'Shael, note that this conversation has taken place over only eight hours and then note T'Shael's usual period of activity (keeping in mind his time zone); i.e., he's probably either asleep or out living his life. Like we all should be. :-) (A self-effacing joke, see.) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 18:20, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

He's had the busy thing on this page all day. I would change it, but he'd sign in as soon as I did it. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  19:05, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:34, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey you stalker
No, don't take that as an insult. In fact, I would like to thank you for helping me on Spongefrog's talk page. Cheers. :-) Rkr1991 (talk) 14:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem, you're quite welcome. :) - t'shaél chat 21:18, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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So Rare
For us to be on opposite sides of an issue. For a minute there, I was worried we were becoming the same person... half expecting another sock accusation before long. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:54, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What? Oh, never mind, I know what you mean. :) Hopefully I explained myself adequately? PS. The sock accusation is coming. First, though, I have to create a sock to accuse you of being my sock. :) - t'shaél chat 01:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You have, and your position is completely valid, though I do not share it. That's the beauty of the world - we CAN disagree on things and still get along. PS: Careful with pretend socks. Remember how I got in trouble? If you don't, check User talk:Vicenarian/Archive 1. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops. I had forgotten about that. That was funny. :) - t'shaél chat 02:02, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's funny until you're in the middle of a GA review and suddenly you're autoblocked and you're autoblocked because you were an idiot and created an account named and acting like a known serious vandal, even though it was just to blow off steam after fighting yet another one of his actual socks. So, yes, I have learned my lesson. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Though, for your encore, you should create ..;)-- t'shaél chat 02:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

← Hmm, it actually fits the sockological profile that a puppetmaster would create a sock with differing views just as a smokescreen so people don't suspect they are "related"... .... ..... ...... ....... .... :) – B.hotep •talk• 08:51, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "Sockological"? Excuse me, please read WP:NEO. :-) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 12:11, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And WP:MADEUP ;) - t'shaél chat 21:04, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, mock me if you will. Don't come running to me when a sockopathic sockmaster comes a-socking on your door... ;) – B.hotep •talk• 21:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Like this? :D - t'shaél chat 21:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * They don't like Calgary Flamers do they? That sounds like a group of Canadians who like to argue alot on the internet. :D – B.hotep •talk• 21:27, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

←Haha, true. Oh, I had forgotten about this.. a warning that we should all take to heart. :) - t'shaél chat 21:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * *monotone* I am a Wikipedian. I will love and obey Jimbo, the one and only God. I will be completely neutral and civil at all times, to the extent that I completely lack emotion. Amen. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:06, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Can't sleep ... must .. check .. watchlist. :) t'shaél chat 22:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

re: Thanks
No problem, I guess having far too many pages on my watchlist does have some advantages ;) - Kingpin13 (talk) 21:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

July 2009
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! While we appreciate that you enjoy using Wikipedia, please note that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a social network. Wikipedia is not a place to socialize or do things that are not directly related to improving the encyclopedia. Off-topic material may be deleted at any time. This message is not meant to discourage you from editing Wikipedia but rather to remind you that the ultimate goal of this website is to build an encyclopedia. t'shaél chat 22:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Ruthie's Picture
Any thoughts on acquiring one? We could scour free photo sources for one, or we could simply ask her people. I think most celebrities are happy to have Wikipedia pages about themselves with a pretty picture to go along with. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There's a picture of her with a compatible license on Flickr, but it's not very good quality. It may be easiest/best to ask her people. What do you think? (Sorry for the long reply time, I never got the new message bar, though.)- t'shaél chat 02:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I say her people. They're more likely to give you a high-quality picture. You must make sure they understand the free license requirement. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:08, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you then have to do the OTRS stuff? - t'shaél chat 03:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah. It's all explained at WP:COPYREQ; they even have sample emails you can send. PS: This is the... uh... interesting revert of the day...  Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

←lol, I always thought that Jesus was a Jewish Israeli. Guess I was wrong. :) - t'shaél chat 03:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I can say for sure he wasn't American, and I'm pretty sure he looked more "Middle Eastern" than "White." I should've left an edit summary, but I think the rollback speaks for itself. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I don't think that you can put a picture of Jesus in an article entitled "White American" in anything but bad faith. But then, I seem to be getting more cynical lately. :) t'shaél chat 03:40, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Check out the third one: http://www.ruthiehenshall.com/gallery_theruthiehenshallalbum.php#02 . - t'shaél chat 03:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Foxy. Let's just hope they'll give it to us. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 04:01, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If not, I'll just take it and claim it as my own. :) - t'shaél chat 04:04, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

←See, you've got admins watching you, you cheeky brat. Bubba would delete on the spot. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 04:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Damn. I always forget that part. :) By the way, email sent. :) - t'shaél chat 04:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Excellent work, Inspector. (Just preparing for your impending name change.) Here's to hoping! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 04:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I would hope that she wouldn't mind, but you never know. If she does, I could possibly talk someone on Flickr into letting me use theirs. But, we'll see, Monsieur. :) - t'shaél chat 04:18, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

A Question
Hello, we corresponded yesterday regarding the Badi Foundation webpage. I've created new content on the Badi Foundation temporary subpage, and am wondering how to have it replace the previous text? Many thanks for your time. Vicali9 (talk) 03:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you give me a link to the subpage? I can't seem to find it. - t'shaél chat 03:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Here you go - link Vicali9 (talk) 03:14, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks. :) - t'shaél chat 03:14, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Everything looks in order to me. However, you may wish to ask to get a second opinion. Best, t'shaél chat 03:19, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Great; thanks so much for your help. Once I do that, do I just edit the page myself or does an admin need to do it? Vicali9 (talk) 03:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Per the template that is currently on the article ("Do not edit this page until an administrator has resolved this issue."), I would wait and let an administrator do it. Luckily, Accounting4Taste is an admin. :) - t'shaél chat 03:26, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks again. Vicali9 (talk) 03:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You're quite welcome. :) Happy editing, t'shaél chat 03:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for dealing with this so ably. Everything also looks in order to me and I'll do what's required. (Although, yes, I am an admin, I've never done this particular activity before, so we may all get a note from another admin telling you what I've done wrong, but I'll give it a shot.) Accounting4Taste: talk 12:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, yes. From what I recall about page merges, I think the original page should have been deleted, the Temp page moved to the original location and all revisions restored. This maintains the contribution history of both versions in one history whilst keeping the page as it is now. However, what you did, A4T had the same nett effect, so let it lie is what I say! Unless you all want it done official, like. :) – B.hotep •talk• 13:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, yes, that was the kind of feedback I was looking for. I think it was the reference to the "temp" page that made me do it the way I did; I seem to have assumed that no one would want the history of a temp page.  My mistake; I think the above-noted way is more useful, and I'll do it that way from now on. Accounting4Taste: talk 13:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It can be complicated. I have done it maybe a handful of times in the past. You need a darkened room and full concentration so you don't end up deleting the main page or something. :) – B.hotep •talk• 13:59, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that can be bad. T'Shael once tried to trick me into thinking you could CSD tag the main page using Twinkle, but I didn't fall for his mischief. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll wait until you're a sysop, then try it again. t'shaél chat 01:32, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

←Chances of me becoming a sysop within the next twelve months... Magic Eight Ball says, "Outlook hazy, try again." Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's so easy, though. All you have to do is trick a bureaucrat with a cleverly disguised link a la PirateSmackK. :D t'shaél chat 05:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * They shoot bureaucrats for that, don't they? :) In any case, when I DO submit my RfA, I'm going to lock myself in a padded room where throwing myself against the wall due to endless nitpicking of my contributions won't cause harm. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha. Understandable. :) t'shaél chat 05:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: re-creation
no problem. Article deleted. Believe it or not, that's not very uncommon an occurrence. btw, that was a very impressive response time. I was using an IRC channel with a NP monitoring bot that reports suspicious new pages and you still almost beat me. :O Keep up the good work. :) Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:53, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) I use J.delanoy's new page patrol script, so that all new pages appear underneath the search box. - t'shaél chat 01:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey! I use that, too! Stop that, per WP:TSHAELANDVICENARIANARENOTTHESAMEUSERBUTARECREEPILYACTINGLIKEIT. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:11, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Has it been on the fritz for you, too? Sometimes it doesn't seem to work right for me. - t'shaél chat 02:33, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I haven't noticed anything fritzy about it. Maybe it's that Mac of yours. :-) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 12:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that I've fixed it. I was having it display 50 pages at a time and it didn't seem to like that. ;) t'shaél chat 01:32, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey thanks
I didn't really, just got them staightened out for a while. I'm going to sleep now, due to the fact that I'm starting to hallucentate. Oh great, now there's zebras in here with the sheep? :) Cheers, Abce2 |  Aww nuts!  Wribbit!(Sign here)  08:23, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Just make sure that they play nice together. :D Best, t'shaél chat 08:24, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh, I just got in an edit conflict with myself. That's weird. Abce2 | Aww nuts!  Wribbit!(Sign here)  08:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was collapsing a thread. :) - t'shaél chat 08:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is WAY more important than sleep. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 11:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

←The 'Pedia is life. :D t'shaél chat 11:23, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Woah. Friend, I know what time zone you're in. Have you slept? Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 11:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sleep is for rookies. :) - t'shaél chat 11:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, sleep deprivation could use some work. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 11:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you suggesting that I replace the content of that article with "TOW = CULT"??? t'shaél chat 11:29, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, if you had the beans to do it. :-D Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 11:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

←Alas, my beans are rather small. ;) t'shaél chat 11:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Please do take note that when I show up, blocks happen. :) t'shaél chat 11:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You guys are crazy. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  13:57, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sponge, you hit the nail on the head. :-) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I've been adopted !!
Know what, guys ? I've just been adopted by Dylon620(yes, the one and the same). Rkr1991 (talk) 13:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice. t'shaél chat 21:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

You've Got...
Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 16:50, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've got your signature? Strange, it looks like I still have mine.. :) t'shaél chat 21:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, The User Who Will Soon Be Formerly Known As T'Shael, what I meant was... fill in the blank. :-) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I should start signing my comments with that. That's gold. Anyway, I knew what you meant..;) Just replied. t'shaél chat 21:57, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I have reason to believe you are neither a policeman, nor a parole officer, nor a fictional character, so you can't be the real Javert. Therefore, I will be opposing your name change. :P – B.hotep •talk• 22:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm actually all three. And I wear fingerless gloves. :D t'shaél chat 22:01, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

←Well,Soon-to-be-Inspector, you've also got someone who really hates the Calgary Flamers. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:02, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, yep. I've been quite the sock target lately. Strange. t'shaél chat 22:03, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm a big advocate of fingerless gloves. I firmly believe that 37.4% of all edits deemed vandalistic are actually carried out by people wearing inappropriate handwear; e.g. large ski gloves. Rather akin to wearing high heels to go hiking. Which I haven't done for a while, I can tells ya! – B.hotep •talk• 22:06, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * First person to create the "This User Wears High Heels While Hiking" userbox gets a barnstar. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * t'shaél chat 22:15, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

←To collect your barnstar (from V), you need to place it on your user page – pride of place, top of the pile. :) – B.hotep •talk• 22:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * V confirms this. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ :D - t'shaél chat 22:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * :) t'shaél chat 22:30, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey! You spelled "flavour" right! I'm proud. :) t'shaél chat 22:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Just for you. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Notice that I SLIGHTLY edited the text after the original posting, so make sure that's reflected on your awards page. You know how picky I can be... Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * (ec)Okay, I'll go check. t'shaél chat 22:37, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Italics to bold, eh? t'shaél chat 22:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * AND the ever critical extra comma. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:40, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

←Oh, okay. Didn't notice that at first. :) t'shaél chat 22:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Taylor Swift
I liked so much that I had to add it to my user page. Pity that I am the only one...--kelapstick (talk) 17:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Glad that you liked it. :) I had it on my page at one point, not sure why I took it off, though. Best, t'shaél chat 21:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Kingpin The Leftorium and Tea Drinker
Thanks much for tagging that page :). One more attack page to add to my list... wonder how many times a page has to be created before I become notable...? ;). BTW, something funny with your edit summary when you reverted the user's edit to your page. Do you know what that is? - Kingpin13 (talk) 10:28, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, no problem. As to my edit summary, I'm really not sure. All I did was click "[rollback]". Maybe a glitch in the software? t'shaél chat 10:30, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess. Although I wasn't aware that div tags ever work in edit summaries. *Shrug* not really important I guess. Cheers :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 10:31, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm curious now. If you don't mind, would you revert this edit so I can see what happens? t'shaél chat 10:32, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Strange. It did it to you, too. You broke the Wiki. :) t'shaél chat 10:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Good old "Undo" is still working though =). I'll have a look around for somewhere to report I guess.... I'm thinking Village pump - Kingpin13 (talk) 10:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

←Yeah, that's the only place that I can think of to report it. This has been a strange day. t'shaél chat 10:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Already done by Allstarecho :) - Kingpin13 (talk) 10:40, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, I was about to say the same thing. :) Hopefully it gets fixed soon. t'shaél chat 10:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think they did a MediaWiki update of some sort that resulted in the bug. Notice we get a new message with the cool rollback symbol when we use the rollback feature. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I miss the old "Action Complete" message. I felt like I had really accomplished something, then. :) t'shaél chat 05:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Quite yer bitchin', it still allows us to remove undesirable edits in one click, no? Alrighty, then. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:40, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

←True. But I don't feel as deified. :) t'shaél chat 05:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Get yourself a nice picture for Ruthie, and then we'll see about deification. PS: We may be able to use one of her promotional photos under a claim of fair use, so long as we reduce the resolution and size, use it just on her page and clearly state our rationale. I've seen it elsewhere. The key is that it has to be a picture published for promotional purposes. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I asked J.delanoy about using File:RuthieHenshall.jpg but he said it wasn't allowed. t'shaél chat 05:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's the link. t'shaél chat 05:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh well. We'll keep trying to get a free one. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 06:01, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * How long did it take for Lucy to reply to you? t'shaél chat 06:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

←Within the day, but I haven't heard anything since. I tried a follow up email this past week. Still waiting. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 06:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * How depressing. t'shaél chat 06:06, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * These are busy people. You just have to convince them that it's in their "promotional interest" to have a good Wikipedia article. After all, our content does tend to come up very high in Google searches... It's a fine line, though, as you must be careful to advise that you're not going to do PR for them, that the article will be neutral, encyclopedic and may contain unfavourable (but well-cited) information. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 06:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Unfair reverts

 * Hi again! I would appreciate it if you would stop taking advantage of my horribly slow internet and reverting edits before I can get to them. It is unfair to me because I would like to revert them. You can see an example of this at Miss_Universe_2009 where I obviously clicked revert before you, but the log now says you did it instead. Please slow down or move to the moon so that my latency can become on par with yours. Thanks. (P.S. Damn you're fast.) --Mpdelbuono (talk) 09:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, yeah, I use Huggle. Please note that my suitcase to the Moon is packed. :) t'shaél chat 09:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You're supposed to be on a Wikibreak. Get lost! Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  12:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha. I'm still "technically" on a Wikibreak, but I couldn't resist a little Huggling. :D t'shaél chat 12:27, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

←Suitcase to the moon? Have you had your head checked recently? Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, now that you mention it, not lately :) t'shaél chat 05:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What happened to your collapsed boxes, eh? Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I had to decollapse them as I missed too many replies. Specifically in the thread about the Badi Foundation. :) t'shaél chat 05:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * *tsk* Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I know. :( Sad, isn't it? t'shaél chat 05:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandal on Tom Kenny
the ip 86.132.112.181 has had enough warnings today, can we report him or block him? (Off2riorob (talk) 14:15, 12 July 2009 (UTC))
 * Ok, seen that at the report page. Thanks. (Off2riorob (talk) 14:20, 12 July 2009 (UTC))
 * No problem, always glad to help. :) t'shaél chat 20:58, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Djjpineda
Sorry I lost control there, but I'm really tired of these type of people, I had already warnned him months ago, and he didn't care, I already reported him and hopely he'll be banned by tomorrow, regards. Supaman89 (talk) 04:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Jolly Good Morning
Sun's up, it's a new day! Maybe a GA review? Maybe time to tackle a task on my to do list? Who knows?! Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 11:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe time to lay off the coffee? ;) I've been meaning to ask you, how did you get involved in reviewing GA noms? t'shaél chat 11:09, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not coffee, Red Bull! As for GA, simple. I just... picked an article at WP:GAN, followed the instructions and... viola. No special permission or training needed, really. Be bold. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 11:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I prefer Earl Grey in the morning, myself. Though, Gevalia Irish Creme is quite tasty, too. Anyway, I'm interested in the Good Article WikiProject, but probably shouldn't join. Don't want to stretch myself too thin, you see. Besides, there's always un-assessed biographies that need my attention. :) t'shaél chat 11:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Aye, that there are, my friend, that there are. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 12:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedian of the Day
Congratulations, Javért! For your kindness to others, your hard work around the wiki, and for being a great user, you have been awarded the "Wikipedian of the Day" award for today, July 14, 2009! Keep up the great work! Note: You could also receive the "Wikipedian of the Week award for this week!

Happy editing!

Midnight Comet 01:51, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, sweet. :) Thank you very much! t'shaél chat 01:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, that "of the Week" award is mine, Javert! Congrats. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * We shall see, hehe. Thanks. :) t'shaél chat 02:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, congrats formerly-T'Shael-now-Javert. I was hoping you and Vicenarian could accept my apology for my incorrect MfD nom last night. It was a huge mistake, and I shouldn't have overreacted to that userbox. Best,  Dylan 620  (contribs, logs) 10:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

←Can I just say something about that, Dylan? Sorry, I don't mean to make you feel worse or anything and I mean this is the nicest way possible, and what's more hope that you reconcile with each other, but yes: it was a bit of a faux pas. This is quite a welcoming talk page (maybe a bit too much at times, but I ain't complaining!) and it could have been talked out beforehand, I'm sure. But hey, you don't need me sticking my oar in, but I had to say something... All the best. :) – B.hotep •talk• 10:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * When I saw your name come up on my watch list, Bubba, I was hoping that you were coming to give me mad props for being the best Wikipedian for July 14. Alas, I was disappointed. :) In all seriousness to Dylan, though, it was a tad upsetting at the time, but I'm over it now. So, no worries. :D Best to you both, <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 10:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You would have Wikipedian Of The Day every day if it was up to me. :) – B.hotep •talk• 10:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC) That sort of thing, yes?
 * Well, there's the template, start awarding. :D Kidding, kidding. Seriously, thank you, I appreciate it. :) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 10:29, 14 July 2009 (UTC) Yes, that's what I was looking for. :D
 * Hey! I'm just as good a Wikipedian as The User Formerly Known As T'Shael. *pout* Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 11:51, 14 July 2009 (UTC)</Small>

←Haha, I don't disagree. But why do you "nowiki" asterisks? <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 11:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Force of habit. If you don't "nowiki" asterisks at the beginning of sentences, you'll create a bullet. So I just nowiki them wherever. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 11:59, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah. I knew that. Sorry. :) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 12:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Huh, someone must have edited my original comment, V-man. It did say, "You would have Wikipedian Of The Day every day if it was up to me... providing the V-man wasn't on duty!" – of course, whoever tinkered with the edit must have oversighted it as well... ;) – B.hotep •talk• 12:48, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * "Javert (rollbacker, oversight) (Created on 29 April 2009 at 19:32)" :D <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 12:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm ALWAYS on duty. Even when I'm asleep, my dormant computer keeps a watchful eye on all suspicious Wikitivity. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

←Perhaps, but do you have an infinite number of edits per day? ;) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 14:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, but I do understand the problem with having zero as a denominator. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This? <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 15:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That. Or ∞, depending on how the computer algorithm deals with zero denominator issues. Or, complete system failure. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 15:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Good grief. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 15:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

New name
Admit it, you wanted a new name because you couldn't handle the publicity of being wikipedian of the day. I've figured you out. You can't hide from me. (P.S. Grats on that btw!) --Mpdelbuono (talk) 03:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, you know me so well. :) Thanks for the congrats :). <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 03:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I can't keep up with your name changes. :-P -- Menti  fisto  11:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, hopefully this is the last one. :) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 11:39, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Amen to that! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 11:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * In my defence, this is the best one that I've had. :) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 11:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

What?
Why is this page on my watchlist? And why have you stolen T'Shael's pages?! Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  09:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Its OK, I've figured it out. I'm such an idiot... Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  10:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, I love ya, Sponge. :) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 10:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * He's a popsukket, yes, that's right, Sponge. ;) – B.hotep •talk• 10:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Stop confusing me! Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  10:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But..but..that's the only reason I edit Wikipedia! ;) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 10:30, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Popsukket? My Firefox spellchecker is confused. :) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 10:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

←Hello, Sponge! Who am I? BOO! Tricenarian (talk) 15:10, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah! Don't scare me like that. :( <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 15:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 * So it's a sock fight you want?! >:( SockofSpongefrog (talk) 08:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There are more socks on my talk page than at SPI. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><b style="color:#060;">Javért</b> |Talk 08:35, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ROOAARR!!  Auric Goldfinger,  <font color="black" face="High Tower Text"> (I don't expect you to talk, I expect you to die)  08:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)