User talk:Javi2292

Welcome!

Hello,, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for page creation, and may soon be deleted (if it hasn't already).

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type   on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Where to ask a question or ask me on. Again, welcome! TheLetterM (talk) 04:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Your first article
 * Biographies of living persons
 * How to write a great article
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * Help pages
 * Tutorial

Speedy deletion of Kevin Rolden
Please do not make personal attacks. Wikipedia has a strict policy against personal attacks. Attack pages and images are not tolerated by Wikipedia and are speedily deleted. Users who continue to create or repost such pages and images in violation of our biographies of living persons policy will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thank you.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. TheLetterM (talk) 04:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Cypress Park
Javi, please do not remove sourced material like that. This material is notable and it is a part of the neighborhood's history. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

FYI -- I posted this on the talk cypress park page.

Yes. Whispertome, this tragic murder of a child occurred in Cypress Park, now about 24 years ago and resulted in a sensational national news story. And yes, I am quite certain the circumstances surrounding this event were NOT as depicted in newspaper articles or other news media. Living in this neighborhood I have heard multiple and conflicting accounts of what occurred, and if you know anything about gangs and the inner-city, getting people to come forward with the truth is usually next to impossible. But of course the media jumped on this. "Child killed in gang shootout!" It's this fixation with the cheap and sensational that I expect Wikipedia to be above.

What I find truly offensive and inappropriate in your persistent posting of this is:

1) While this 24-year-old shooting is tragic, it is HARDLY definitive of Cypress Park -- an economically struggling but wonderful neighborhood which you are harming by perpetuating a non-neutral and sensational association with gangs and violence which happens to fall into the "if it bleeds it leads" school of journalism.

This is a notable event with some cloudy details that did occur in this neighborhood, but it is NOT the defining event for the neighborhood that you present it to be, and I would argue it not appropriate for this page where people want an overview of the neighborhood, not a biased association implying that the neighborhood is bad or high crime or gang ridden, etc. At best, this should be a small footnote way at the bottom of the page.

2) You continually place your paragraph about the "sensational gang murder" at the top of the article right after the description of Cypress Park as a neighborhood in Los angeles and the table of contents.

This placement clearly implies this is of primary importance and is somehow highly definitive of Cypress Park. You think this should be the first thing someone reads if they want information on Cypress Park, and if so, how is that not biased? I do not believe writing about the most awful and sensational event that ever happened in an economically distressed, but gentrifying inner-city neighborhood serves the interests of neutrality, the residents of Cypress Park, or the Wikipedia community.

Cypress Park is a 100 year-old neighborhood of over 15,000 residents and should not be defined in Wikipedia by a small handful of violent incidents...And as you can see by other people repeatedly deleting your posts, I am not alone in my views. Hurleyvillain (talk) 17:34 8 May 2009 ______________________________________________________