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List of best-selling music artists
Hello. You support option "Splitting" in the article of List of best-selling music artists. So, if support merge (List of best-selling music artists (50 million to 69 million records) to List of best-selling music artists) or splitting (exist separate article List of best-selling music artists (50 million to 69 million records)), please let your vote (Keep) on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of best-selling music artists (50 million to 69 million records). Thank you. Subtropical-man (talk) 18:12, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

2011–12 Real Madrid C.F. season competitions
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Roman Empire
Don't know whether you saw my edit summary, but the editors who are active at Roman Empire are well aware of the length problem, and I don't see the purpose of the tag if (A) we're already working on it and (B) there's no discussion added to the talk page to go with the tag. To me, the tag just clutters an already long article that's well-trafficked (about 300,000 visitors a month, a number that's increased as the article's grown longer over the last few months, so presumably the additional information is welcome).

I would point out two things that contribute to the overall size of the article without actually adding to its reading length: about a third of the visual length is footnotes, which readers usually don't sit and read, so they don't really affect readability; and there are an awful lot of nav bars at the bottom which editors insist on adding (I consider some of these pretty tangential, but comme ci comme ça, I reckon). And it isn't really surprising that an article on the Roman Empire would be among Wikipedia's longest, if you think about it.

That said, see Talk:Roman Empire for my most recent comment on approaching reduction. I have a draft of some of these proposed spinoffs on user pages. However, I celebrate holidays at this time of year, so I don't have the amount of daily time to spend that I did from September through November working on the article's previous gaps. An earlier look at length can be found at Talk:Roman Empire and the most recent at Talk:Roman Empire, so I assure you, there's no resistance to reducing the length. Just a desire to do it with thought and care. I would love to hear your suggestions, though, about where it most drags when you try to sit and read it in one go, in case you have a different view of what sections should be spun off. Thanks! Cynwolfe (talk) 22:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Campaigning in the 2008 Austrian legislative election
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United States at the 2011 Pan American Games split
Hello, I saw that you began to split the article. Seeing as the discussion on the talk page wasn't finished, I'm not very sure that I agree with the move. I would strongly suggest that we discuss this before making any more moves. Please respond to my post on the talk page. Thanks. Prayerfortheworld (talk) 23:39, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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Re-writing history
The result of the AfD was that Penix was not notable. Look at the DRV. It was reinforced by several uninvolved editors that the closing redirect in no way made her notable. I implore you to stop trying to re-write the result. She was found to be non-notable. Period. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:13, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I agree with Niteshift that the inclusion of a link to Eunice Penix at Penix is probably contrary to the WP:LISTPEOPLE guideline. (I was pinged about this on my talk page.) Mark Arsten (talk) 19:45, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

January 2003 in Afghanistan
Hi Jax 0677, Just dropping by on a courtesy call to let you know that on your recent article "January 2003 in Afghanistan", I have added a need for citations tag, as your reference was not worked into the article. I have also added an extra tag requesting more references, reason being as it is a highly charged topic with many views it's probably best if it gets more references from other sources. But aside of that, thank you for taking the time to write up such an invaluable piece of information!

Anyway, please let me know if you have any issues on what I have done. Kindest regards and happy wiki-ing, (MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 07:49, 15 December 2012 (UTC))

Erich Raeder
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 * Reply - Please refer to the talk page, as the vote was one to zero after one week. You may take the new article to the full AfD if you desire.--Jax 0677 (talk) 15:54, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, for some reason I didn't notice your "st" remark in the edit summary. Widr (talk) 16:01, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Sexuality in ancient Rome
Please participate at Talk:Sexuality in ancient Rome, and try to arrive at a consensus before making such a radical change. I proposed several sections that (based on my familiarity with the topic) seem like plausible candidates for spin-off articles, and you split off a section that I just don't see as usefully independent at all. An independent article will need its own introduction; I don't see how article scope could be established for "Sex, marriage and society in ancient Rome" that would make it a separate topic from Sexuality in ancient Rome. Cynwolfe (talk) 18:31, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Kuch...
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No Justice
An empty allmusic listing is not sufficient. Just because an album exists doesn't mean it's notable. I've searched high and low and can only find track listings. No reviews, no significant third party coverage, nothing. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:00, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply - Per WP:NALBUMS, "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting". Do we really want four track listings in the main No Justice article?  Also, why is this now the second time that I was not notified on my talk page about a TfD for a template that I created?--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:03, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Considering the No Justice article has only three sentences, there's plenty of room for the track listings. Also, you apply policies and guidelines way the hell too rigidly. It's perfectly okay to redirect a non-notable album even if you don't carry over the tracklist to the target — otherwise, nearly every singer would have a tracklist somewhere on their biography and/or discography, because every artist has plenty of discs that aren't individually notable. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:05, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply - The goal of The Wikimedia Foundation is to expand the sum of human knowledge (or something to that effect). IMO, implied in this is placing the track listings for all significant albums of a notable artist in some Wikipedia article.  If we wouldn't want the track listings for four albums in No Justice, then the album articles should remain.--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:12, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * So you admit they're not notable, but think they should stay just because you don't want their tracklists to be merged? Your logic is baffling. Again, it's okay to redirect to the album and not carry over the track listing. That happens all the time. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply - Like our debate about the rule of five in WP:NENAN, and my not being notified about the latest TfD above, I am having to repeat what I say because it is being blatantly ignored. I never said whether the albums were notable or not (if I did, show me where).  Because the track listings have already been written, it would be quite easy physically to move them into the new article.  This presents a greater amount of important and relevant human knowledge than not placing the track listings in No Justice.  However, as was discussed at Template:Kevin Fowler, placing four track listings in a music ensemble article gets messy.  Regarding deleting the track listings, please see WP:OSE.--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:24, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Statewide opinion polling for the Republican Party presidential primaries, April 2012
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Your contributed article, Statewide opinion polling for the Republican Party presidential primaries, June 2012


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Marele câștigător
Other edits by the editor adding unsourced charts to Marele câștigător have been reverted as vandalism; I'm not sure if these are also vandalism. I know you were working to clean up the article, so if you could engage with the IP editor and discuss your plans, then let me know what's happening, I'll be happy to assist however I can. Dreadstar ☥   18:15, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If you can, it would be good to add sources that show the show passes Notability. If it doesn't let me know that too, so it can be deleted; or perhaps it should be redirected back to the parent article The Biggest Loser, unless there's something particularly notable about this associated tv show?  Dreadstar  ☥   18:31, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

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Europa League qualifying round splits
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Templates
Why do you create templates for persons like IT (Tony Särkkä) or Ole Öhman? If they were also solo artists, a template would make sense, but these (just featuring small parts of what the band templates contain) are completely useless. --217 /83 22:19, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - I am a big believer in WP:ANOEP, and creating navboxes about the artist are a good way to encompass starting ensembles who do not have many articles.--Jax 0677 (talk) 22:33, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You can have a box on every page with just the band templates (I just mean people playing in bands, like the two I mentioned). --217 /83 23:17, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about International public opinion on the war in Afghanistan in 2010
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Deletion discussion about International public opinion on the war in Afghanistan in 2009
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Splitting
Hello Jax0677,

I note that you have split out the 1st section of several articles. I wondered if I might suggest that you complete 1 article before going onto the next. That way, the article will always look presentable to the user (apart from the brief time when you are doing the splitting. At the moment there are several articles that just look unfinished. Just a thought.

I also noticed the copy warning for Fukushima above. I get those as well.

Op47 (talk) 23:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

 Reply  - I have been working articles from largest to smallest to reduce the number of large articles on Wikipedia. It would be nice if I had some help.--Jax 0677 (talk) 03:38, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * A note re splitting. Most of the editors working on long articles are - I think - aware of this problem. The difficulty is how best to fix this. A simple copy and paste job isn't always (and often isn't) the best way to do this. Quite a few of the long articles are fairly technical/detailed and many of the subsections hang together. This makes it tricky to split them. This usually isn't impossible: the history of Egypt has been split into multiple separate articles. I have split more than a few articles myself so I do know how difficult this can be.DrMicro (talk) 10:15, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of 1. FC Kaiserslautern football transfers summer 2011


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German transfers
Hi Jax, I saw the PROD removals and took a look at the discussion you pointed me towards. However I am a little confused, you started a discussion on 18 November, had no comments at all, then unilaterally split the article (or at least started to) to at least 6 club articles. I am familiar with WP:BRD but now we have discovered this action, I propose you undo your edits, delete the redirects and "re-split" according to league, establishing list for 1 bundesliga and another one for 2 bundesliga summer 2011 transfers. I am using your talk page as there doesn't seem to be much traffic at the relevant talk page, although I have posted a similar message there. Please let me know what you think. Thanks, C 679 21:40, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Legion of Doom (hacking)
When you carry out a split, can you please remember to remove the tags when you have finished. Op47 (talk) 19:26, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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List of accidents and incidents involving military aircraft
Ok lets have the links for the pages you seem to have wiped off the face of the Earth!!--Petebutt (talk) 20:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - ??? --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:15, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Done it--Petebutt (talk) 20:26, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Changing another editor's comments
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Nomination of List of Bayer 04 Leverkusen football transfers summer 2011 for deletion
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For the love of God, STOP wasting paragraph after paragraph rambling about your templates. Going on ad nauseam about how X does not link to Y every single time is getting annoying. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:39, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
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