User talk:Jayen466/Archives/2008/November

IS Refs
Hi Jayen, I noticed once that having made an edit to a page, the numbering of my refs was temporarily out of order. I think, but can't be sure, that refreshing the page sorted this. Regards, EricT (talk) 13:52, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Eric. Jayen 466 13:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Jayen, some details of publisher and one ISBN on Shah documentation 8 and 9 here and here. EricT (talk) 15:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Psychology Today. Have emailed you Obo's email address. I'm pretty sure he has the original magazine. EricT (talk) 08:56, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Millennium '73
Thanks for your copyedits to Millennium '73. We're trying to get it passed at FAC, so every bit helps! ·:· Will Beback ·:· 08:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Pleasure. I'm sure it will get there. Jayen 466 13:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Could you weigh in on Talk:Millennium_'73? Thanks. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 19:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Could you lend a hand?
Talk:Prem_Rawat - Hopefully you can... ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Tahir Shah's Sorcerer's Apprentice
Hi Jayen, do you think that Sorcerer's apprentice should be moved to Sorcerer's Apprentice (book)? See Talk:Sorcerer's apprentice.

p.s. Sent a letter to Safia and Ian Thomas on Monday. Cheers, EricT (talk) 16:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

✅ Thanks again, EricT (talk) 09:54, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Safia Shah
Hi Jayen, haven't as yet heard from Safia and Ian Thomas (and Tahir is now off on a Brazilian tour promoting a translation of Sorcerer's Apprentice 'til 22nd Nov).

Now have a bit more to work with at User:Esowteric/Sandbox‎, detail still needs filling in. Cheers, EricT (talk) 11:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Okeydoke. Well done with the page move and disambiguation. Cheers, Jayen 466 17:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Having sent a letter on Monday, I still haven't heard back from Safia and Ian Thomas and have a feeling I won't get a reply. A while back I also emailed Octagon asking if they had any details on the Daily Telegraph Book of the Year (eg the year) and the Literary Review, again without reply.

What do you think we should do, Jayen? Go with what Tahir said (that he thought Safia would be flattered by the entry)? Do you think we have enough to initially pass muster re. notability (have now added more detail such as history and references to the separate section on A.Gold) and see how the article develops over time? You know better than I do (though I admit to wanting to publish it). Cheers, EricT (talk) 14:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I wouldn't put it out. Not that there is anything wrong with it – it may even pass notability, technically – just that it doesn't really feel like she is, or wants to be, a public figure. But it's your baby. If you want to squeeze it out, go ahead ... (and if you do, then we'll have to update the family template). Up to you. Cheers, Jayen 466 17:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Jayen. I'll leave it on hold unless I get Safia's okay and she is willing to provide more detail. Cheers, EricT (talk) 17:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Lean Six Sigma
You left the following comment before deleting my entry on Lean Six Sigma:

"I agree that Lean Six Sigma is a notable topic that deserves an article, but this, which doesn't cite a single WP:RS as a reference, is not it. Please research how LSS is treated in WP:RS"

Would my entry be acceptable if I included references or do you disagree with the content? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gold Paperclip (talk • contribs) 17:59, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi. There are a number of things missing to make an article, like: I appreciate your trying to create an article for Lean Six Sigma. There used to be one, and it got deleted, because it was just companies' advertisements for themselves. But it needs a bit more research. Try google books: These days you can read many books online, at least in part. Best wishes, Jayen 466 19:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Who first invented the term Lean Six Sigma, and when?
 * Notable people/companies?
 * The assertion that Six Sigma is LSS but LM isn't needs a source making that claim.

Congratulations for your sense of humor
Hello, Jayen466. At last I find someone in Wikipedia with a sense of humor, your jokes of Nasrudin are very good. Perhaps you know that an old yoga rule to tell a true guru from a false one is that Gurus who have no sense of humor and always speak in a grave, serious, or angry ad neve use humour way cannot be true. I will tell you my favourite joke about intellectuals, heard from Prem Rawat: "An intellectual is a person who always think he's right and the other guy is wrong, even if the other guy says the same". Of course there are also humble intellectuals, this is only a joke. I would gladly add a well deserved star for your sense of humor to your page, if I knew how to do it. Best regards.--Pedrero (talk) 11:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. As you enjoy them, here is another one:
 * In fact, I think I should add that one as well. :-) As for barnstars, see Barnstars. They are usually placed on a user's talk page, and proud recipients then transfer them to their user page. Cheers, Jayen 466 12:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Signpost updated for November 17, 2008 and before.
Because the Signpost hasn't been sent in a while, to save space, I've condensed all seven issues that were not sent into this archive. Only the three issues from November are below.

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Vijay Prashad
Hello Jayen, I request your help and guidance to edit the article on Vijay Prashad within Wiki rules. Kindly monitor it and let me know where I or somebody else might be overstepping the boundaries set by Wikipedia. I wish to edit according to Wiki rules but being new and am not always aware of them. I would appreciate your help. Regards --Satyashodak (talk) 17:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, will do. I think it looks okay now. At least we have the basic facts, including that he is a Marxist. In general, try to find secondary sources, i.e. sources that speak about Prashad. Avoid quoting Prashad directly at length, unless he is quoted at similar length in some source published by another author commenting on him. See WP:PSTS. Cheers, Jayen 466 12:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Need some help with citations
Hello there. I'm not sure if you've been following the article at all, but I've been making some extensive edits to Scientology. Mainly removal of primary sources, but also some copyediting and removing deceptive or otherwise ambiguous material. Right now, the article is in need of some sources to fill in for all the s (there's at least 25 of them). If you're up for it, I'd appreciate whatever you could to bring to the table. Thanks! ← Spidern  →  18:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. It's a huge topic and a huge amount of literature to cover ... but getting the primary-source stuff out is a good beginning. I've commented on the Scn Project assessment page as well as your talk page, outlining my ideas for how the article could grow. Cheers, Jayen 466 22:09, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Maps
I replied here: Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard. There are some updates to the tainted map. If this issue occurs, maybe we could place a request at Graphic Lab to have it fixed. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  19:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Jayen <i style="color:#FFBF00;">466</i> 22:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)