User talk:Jayen466/Archives/2012/April

Categories and sources
Hello. Since our discussion was getting beyond the proper scope of the ANI thread, I'm continuing it here. I hope that's okay. I believe that the reliability of sources involving the actor's statement was in question. Surely you're not suggesting that a PR announcement sourced to shaky sources trumps multiple reliable sources. The way I see it, verifiability needs to be at the core of everything we do around here, and nowhere is that more true than at BLP articles. For the purposes of WP categorization, it might be possible to "put the genie back in the bottle," but we should weigh the relative merit of conflicting sources before making such decisions. If the category in question were a negative one, it would be reasonable to consider potential harm to the subject when assigning weight, but that wasn't the case here. The category, which cannot reasonably be construed as negative, posed no potential harm to the subject. Rivertorch (talk) 20:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal: Case update
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Main page appearance: Tiananmen Square self-immolation incident
This is a note to let the main editors of Tiananmen Square self-immolation incident know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on April 3, 2012. You can view the TFA blurb at Today's featured article/April 3, 2012. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director or his delegate, or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions at Today's featured article/requests/instructions. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. The blurb as it stands now is below:

The Tiananmen Square self-immolation incident took place in Tiananmen Square in central Beijing on 23 January 2001. The incident is disputed: the official Chinese press agency, Xinhua News Agency, stated that five members of Falun Gong, a banned spiritual movement, set themselves on fire to protest the unfair treatment of Falun Gong by the Chinese government. The Falun Dafa Information Center stated the incident was a hoax staged by the Chinese government to turn public opinion against the group and to justify the torture and imprisonment of its practitioners. The incident received international news coverage, and video footage was broadcast later in the People's Republic of China by China Central Television. A wide variety of opinions and interpretations of what may have happened emerged: the event may have been set up by the government, it may have been an authentic protest, or the self-immolators "new or unschooled" practitioners, among others. The campaign of state propaganda that followed the event eroded public sympathy for Falun Gong, and the government began sanctioning "systematic use of violence" against the group. (more...) UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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Playboy Playmates & More
Not sure if you noticed it recently, but user:fasttimes68 is still harassing Stephanie Adams on other pages relating to her (see his "contributions" at Stephanie, July 24, Playboy Playmate, a list of authors which should very well include her since she is mentioned on here as being one, etc., etc.) and he seems now to have an agenda of trying to have other playmate pages removed. This seems to have been a problem for many years now with this individual. It really needs to stop. 71.183.42.86 (talk) 13:21, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Images yet again
I can't find the place in edit mode, but there is really no contradiction - the usage of illuminated MS was really pretty similar in East and West. There's no point continuing discussion on that page as no one is following it. What a phenomenal waste of time all this has been! Johnbod (talk) 00:11, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with you there. :) I am sure if they had locked us into a room, we would have had a mutually agreeable result in a fraction of the time. (And with a far more enjoyable process. One could have had a beer over it.)  J N  466  00:14, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

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ADAM
Nice essay. Nice acronym :-) --Lyncs (talk) 16:11, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, mate. And nice to see you. :) -- J N  466  16:20, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Busy flying little airplanes from the inside and worrying about my upcoming retirement. Not doing much editing. --Lyncs (talk) 16:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

WP:Shame
Hey Jayen - hoping your well - I know you have written a few essays and are interested in improving and exposing the failings of the project - so, please feel free to add some detail to this essay I think would be beneficial - WP:Shame -  no pressure - I realize you  have a busy schedule - regards and respect from -  You  really  can  15:46, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Snowed under at the moment, but I'll see if I can add some examples further down the line. -- J N  466  22:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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The Muhammed images RfC
Decided to stop by. Another editor commented out the email you posted from Gruber. I reverted him, but I thought I should let you know. If there is any reason to believe she wouldn't want it posted I'd advise removing it, but I'm assuming there isn't, in which case this user is out of line. I suggested to him that he should email her and ask if he is concerned about it. Cheers.Griswaldo (talk) 01:16, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. -- J N  466  01:28, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

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In regards to 'racism' in section headings
Wouldn't it be more interesting to look at whether the real racism is in articles about white and Asian criminals being disproportionately more likely to have section headings referring to 'criminal convictions' rather than the euphemistic 'legal issues'?
 * Thanks, I'll bear that in mind. I'm snowed under with other stuff right now, but will check into this as well, once I have a free afternoon. Any systematic difference is potentially of interest.  J  N  466  21:09, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

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Religion Manual of Style
There is now a proposed Manual of Style for religion in general at WikiProject Religion/Manual of style. I have added some material to it recently, most of which is copied rather clearly from the existing Judaism and NRM MOS's. Anyway, given your own degree of experience in the religion field, and the fact that you may have a slightly more professional view of such things than some of us others, like me, I would welcome your input as well. John Carter (talk) 23:36, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks John, will have a look.  J N  466  19:29, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Second opinion
Hi would you pass your experienced eye over the title and the lede and the talkpage comments in regards to this article War_criminals_in_Canada - You  really  can  19:16, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, will have a look.  J N  466  19:29, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Its always exciting to get a barnstar! I wish we had known about that WP:UAAI page a bit earlier, but as I think about the overall issue, if we just follow our "golden rule" and pillar of civility we wouldn't need anything else. Here's to knocking a bit of the dust off the pillar. :) -- Avanu (talk) 19:33, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome.  J N  466  19:37, 29 April 2012 (UTC)