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The Signpost: 31 January 2024
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Question about the Orsini affair
I read Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-06-19/In_the_media at the time, and the follow-on discussion is still going on both there and elsewhere. One point that sticks with me is the idea that the global lock of Gitz6666 was a direct result of the allegation that they phoned HyperGio at work. Gitz denies making any such phone call, but the Italian article says "contacted by Il Fatto, he did not want to reply, subsequently making himself untraceable on social media". A key question here is whether this contact was by telephone and at HyperGio's place of work and, if so, whether the reporter identified themselves. Did you attempt to contact Il Fatto regarding this question? Thanks, Bovlb (talk) 17:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @Bovlb: Fatto Quotidiano said they contacted HyperGio. That surely means they identified themselves; any reporter would. Whether they emailed or called, and/or indeed whether anyone else with an investment in the controversy called HyperGio after the article came out, I don't know. But the latter seems quite plausible to me. Orsini complained vociferously about his BLP on social media and has his own community of fans online who were angry about the state of his Italian WP bio. At any rate, I didn't get in touch with the reporter, nor with HyperGio.
 * Note from Vituzzu, where he says (1) that the Fatto article had nothing to do with the glock, and (2) that there were COI allegations related to two different admins (the identity of the second is not public).
 * In that second case, Gitz has said that he did merely what he was told by Stewards to do: write a private email to a trusted admin or bureaucrat, laying out his COI concerns. (Nobody has contradicted him on that.) When he then did send such an email, he was glocked.
 * It is a rather involved story. The most important aspect to me is the BLP violation that was at the bottom of it all, and that Italian admins circled the wagons to keep Orsini's Italian WP biography in a state that can fairly be described as an attack page, blocking editors and deleting talk page comments that pointed that out and listed positive reviews of his work that were not reflected in the article. Orsini's Italian WP biography is blanked to this day. Best, Andreas  JN 466 18:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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