User talk:Jaymovez

There have been two problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group or a web site, which is also against policy, as an account must be for just one person. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing. Additionally, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Wikipedia, you must disclose who is paying you to edit.

If you intend to make useful contributions other than promoting your business or organisation, you may request an unblock. To do so, post the text at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:CentralAuth to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy. Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In that reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block. To do so, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the text at the bottom of your talk page, replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason for thinking that the block was an error, and publish the page. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:15, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

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Jaymovez (talk) 11:39, 8 February 2020 (UTC) I've fixed your request for proper display- and merged them, as you only need one open request. Someone else will review it. I've also removed your extra signatures- I think you are using tildes for some other purpose- they should only be used for signatures at the end of your posts. 331dot (talk) 11:41, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

It looks like your purpose has changed from "My sole purpose in creating a Wikipedia and becoming an automated editor was to showcase new cool and upcoming tech companies making strides in the software sphere and culture as a whole." to "My sole purpose in creating a Wikipedia account and becoming an automated editor was to showcase established tech companies and culture icons disrupting the spheres in which the world views these respective markets"? 331dot (talk) 11:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes 331dot. I have no affiliation with the companies I write Wikis on. I just want to improve the community with new information on these market disrupters and culture icons. Is there any time estimate on when my unblocking request will be taken into consideration? I'm new to the community to a permanent block is extremely harsh for something I had no idea on and that was a clerical error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaymovez (talk • contribs)
 * Administrators are volunteers, who do what they can when they can. Your request is open and visible to other administrators; it will be reviewed by someone in due course. 331dot (talk) 21:33, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

For sure. Is there any reason why you are unable to review the request. After all, you were the admin who misunderstood my intent and you seem to now have clarification on my intentions. Is it against Wikipedia's policy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaymovez (talk • contribs)
 * In general, an administrator should make only one substantive unblock request review for a user's block. In addition, the blocking administrator is generally consulted as well.  Do you have a particular need for a quick resolution here?  I will say that I stand by what I stated above- but the next administrator will determine how to proceed. This is out of fairness to you more than anything. 331dot (talk) 22:14, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Not necessarily in a rush. It's just that this account is needed to unblock the company's wiki page if I understand correctly. The wiki link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movez would be the central Wiki domain that is needed for the company's Wiki article. Would another editor be able to create the page of this link or would the initial account who created the page have to deal directly with the unblock request?

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I won't consider the unblock because that wouldn't be fair on you, since I blocked you, but you need to know that writing about a company is difficult. If you are unblocked, you must follow the guidance below:
 * you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation or company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, logs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company or organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls
 * The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:
 * significant coverage in
 * independent,
 * multiple,
 * reliable,
 * secondary sources.
 * Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability.


 * You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.
 * There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
 * You must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

The topic did meet Wiki's notability standards. They are references in articles in multiple independent sources ranging from the Japanese Times, to the San Francisco Chronicle. Furthermore, because my username was a clerical error and because I have explained the error, my username should be changed, unblocked, and I should be allowed to edit again given that this was a first offense. Lastly, what happens to the page wiki link that you blocked as well? Will that be restored or what is the process on that? I just believe that these blocks are wholly unfair given the circumstances that have been outlined and I still haven't received an answer or resolution on these key issues.

Any updates? Still nothing on my request?

I am still waiting to get unblocked. No action has been made is well over a week.
 * I can decline your request as stale so you can make a new, fresher request, or I can leave it open. Administrators are volunteers and do what they can when they can. I might opine that some administrators might be put off by the length of your request- you could try to slim it down. 331dot (talk) 20:47, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Please decline my request as stale so that I may create a new request. I will condense the text. Thanks

ElbaGoyard is an alternative account I was using for two legitimate reasons. The first reason was to maintain my personal privacy as I was editing articles that are controversial within my professional circle. Secondly, I was seeking a clean start under a new name to avoid being harassed for past first-time offenses/mistakes. I have been trying to resolve these discrepancies with Wiki admins for well over a month and no one is granting me grace for accidents and first-time mistakes. Lastly, the Movez.png file is listed as my own work because it is a screenshot I took of a freely licensed image. Upon my initial read of the Wikipedia Image Use policy, I believed this image uploading practice to be deemed permissible. jaymovez -  23 March 2020

Any update? jaymovez -  3 April 2020

Your request will not be activated until you remove the "tlx|" from it(this suppresses the template from working properly). You also need only one request that simultaneously requests unblock and proposes a new username, not separate requests for each. 331dot (talk) 09:29, 21 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I find it worrying that you claim you have no connection and yet you want to "create their first official Wiki page (it's not anyway, it's our page about them}. Even your request is promotional given the large traction they’ve received thus far... culture icons disrupting the spheres in which the world views these respective market... people are actively using and enjoying, which I can prove. Your best way to show that you don't have a COI is to tell us that you'll walk away from this company, with which you nave no connection, and write about something else Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  09:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Greetings Wiki Admins,

It has come to my attention from a notification from admin, that an additional account was pinned to my account as a socket puppet account, and I have no connection to this account. The only additional account I created was, and it wasn't created with the intention of block evasion or sock puppeteering. I explained why in the reasons above. I was brand new to Wikipedia at the time and had little to no knowledge of the technical rules. However, my account is not connected to the account. Lastly, while I have no affiliation with the company, I will walk away from any edits or page creation related to the company to ensure I am following the rules and guidelines and maintain my credibility as an editor. With this being said. I apologize for my actions and they will not happen again. I am going to request an unblock of my account at this time once again. --Jaymovez (talk) 22:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Greetings Admin,

I am also recently seeing you have pinned user as a sockpuppet of my account... How was this information even deduced? I feel like you all are trying to ban me. I have plenty of insights to offer and I want to respect the rules/guidelines of the Wiki community. I have confirmed one account and have explained the reasons for why the account was created, however, I am not a practicing sock puppetting and I am being transparent. There are stark contrasting differences between these accounts and their writing styles in relation to mine, so how could you deduce that I am acting on behalf of the two accounts? Lastly, is there no leniency on new users in their understanding of the rules? At the time, I was new to the community but now I understand and have learned from my mistake, and I assure you it will not happen again. I want to be a steward of the Wiki community and offer insights in an effectively transparent manner. I will step away from any page creation or edits of Movez. Please consider my unblock request.

Best Regards

Thank you Should I summarize the bulleted points under the most recent unblock request and bullet the summary of the situation in the unblock request as well? --Jaymovez (talk)
 * Ideally, the whole text required to get an overview of the situation should fit into the unblock template. However, especially bullet points and paragraph breaks can be tricky to put in there. Feel free to create a new section with the appeal text, and " " at the very bottom of that section. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:54, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Unblock request

 * I was blocked from making Wikipedia edits because an admin believed I was affiliated with an article subject I was writing a Wiki on.
 * My block request sounded promotional in tone, as one Wiki admin pointed out, and therefore, the block request was declined.
 * I created another wiki account and confirmed the account was mine. The account was created for two reasons:
 * 1) The first reason was to maintain my personal privacy.
 * 2) Secondly, I was seeking a clean start under a new name to avoid being harassed for past first-time offenses and mistakes given my previous lack of knowledge. In no way was I trying to practice sock puppeteering.
 * The Movez.png file was listed as my own work because it was a screenshotted download taken from Google.
 * Lastly, admin incorrectly connected two additional accounts who were editing and creating a page I sought to create first. Given the notability of the subject and its significant traction in media and social media, it's likely these user accounts sought to create the company, Movez, a Wiki page. It's important to note, other editors took part in editing the page in check user logs before the admin deleted it, further underscoring the subject's notability.

So are you all just going to keep me blocked from Wikipedia forever? If I had known, created the user account User:Elbagoyard would ban me, I wouldn't have done it. Now that, I know, I won't partake in using alternative accounts or block evade if I find myself in the position again. Furthermore, both you and the admin Serphimblade are basing other accounts of being sock puppets of loosely connected information. I will confess to Elbagoyard and I have been straightforward about the creation from the get-go. However, I will not admit to sock puppetry of accounts I have no affiliation or connection just because you all are policing me to admitting it. By the same logic, I could ask you both, "What if one of the accounts so happened to check the page logs under Movez and say that a previous user by the name of Jaymovez created the account. Looked at my user log, and edited the pages I chose to edit?" None of the evidence is concrete and you are punishing an editor who wants to add valuable insights to the Wiki community while following the guidelines that I am now up to date on.

Unblock request

 * I was blocked from making Wikipedia edits because an admin believed I was affiliated with an article subject I was writing a Wiki on.
 * My block request sounded promotional in tone, as one Wiki admin pointed out, and therefore, the block request was declined.
 * I created another wiki account and confirmed the account was mine. The account was created for two reasons:
 * 1) The first reason was to maintain my personal privacy.
 * 2) Secondly, I was seeking a clean start under a new name to avoid being harassed for past first-time offenses and mistakes given my previous lack of knowledge. In no way was I trying to practice sock puppeteering.
 * The Movez.png file was listed as my own work because it was a screenshotted download taken from Google.
 * Lastly, admin incorrectly connected two additional accounts who were editing and creating a page I sought to create first. Given the notability of the subject and its significant traction in media and social media, it's likely these user accounts sought to create the company, Movez, a Wiki page. It's important to note, other editors took part in editing the page in check user logs before the admin deleted it, further underscoring the subject's notability. Please don't base your decisions off ad hominem conclusions.

I have added "mark" tags (displayed as yellow highlighting in most browsers) around all the text copied verbatim from the previous declined appeal.

The following new text remains:
 * "Please don't base your decisions off ad hominem conclusions."
 * "If I do so happen to fall short of the Wikiguidlines again, I will gracefully take a harsher sanction on my account. I sincerely want to add meaningful contributions, and I don't mind being monitored in doing so. Any and all future edits and page creation WILL ONLY be done from this account, and more importantly, I will stay fully within the rules. Thank you for your consideration admins."

I'm revoking talk page access to prevent further disruption for now. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:38, 26 April 2020 (UTC)