User talk:Jayrav

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Richard Joel
Your criticism of Richard Joel essentially amounts to name-calling. Please stop adding your paragraph about "stylish, yet meaningless" Judaism to the article. Thanks, DLand TALK 07:06, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
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Leah Shakdial
was deleted as a copyright violation. You pasted the text from two websites, it looks like. Feel free to write the article again in your own words, though I doubt she's terribly notable - maybe for the court case, nd even then - should the info go into the article about the case instead? - CrazyRussian talk/email 18:57, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

She is notable for the court case and the Rabbinic opinions, not as a person. But the court case should be somewhere to refer to it from other pages. As you know I found myself doing this from Rabbi Waldenberg.

Avi Weiss
Thanks for adding some facts about Avi Weiss. Please remember to WP:CITE your facts. One of the nice thing about the AW article is that it's fairly well cited - let's keep it that way. --Bachrach44 22:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: R' Yehiel Yaakov Weinberg
Come again please, I don't know how to nominate him, could you please help me out? GZee 22:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok I Hope I fixed it now.

Gota go but thanks for fixing it. GZee 22:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Avi Weiss
Why did you delete the reference to Torah U'Maddah? Please respond on article talk page. Thanks, --Shirahadasha 00:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Henkin
Re so Louie was his kid?? - CrazyRussian talk/email 19:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes. And has a rabbinical side to him also.

Your contact info
Hi Jayrav: Shavuah Tov! You have not enabled your Wikipedia Email feature in your "my preferences" at the top of your user page. Sometimes editors overlook that when it's a useful way of staying in touch with other editors. Best wishes. IZAK 03:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeshivat Chovevei Torah
Hello! Compared to the daily or worse vandalism that articles like Who is a Jew and Bible get, the weekly vandalism this one gets is comparatively mild. Also, most of it really isn't vandalism -- it's newbies (I don't know if they're sockpuppets) with an axe to grind offering opinionated, usually unsourced content, which is not ideal but nonetheless represent legitimate attempts to edit rather than the sort of things hardcore vandals put in (which tend to involve things like 4-letter words and more than you'd care to know about their self-reported exploits with their girlfriends). It seems to me that vandalism is a price of a user-editable encyclopedia, and if we start blocking more articles, we should do it as a general policy and start with articles that are much more regularly vandalized than this one. But you're welcome to talk to an admin about your concerns (like User:Crzrussian, User:JoshuaZ, User:TShilo12). Best, --Shirahadasha 17:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Response to NOTICE and OBJECTIONS to WikiProject Religion vs. Judaism
Hi Jayrav: It is very important that you see the points and the response from User:Badbilltucker about his aims at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism ASAP. Have a Happy Chanukah! IZAK 15:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Please don't remove Swastik
Hi Jayrav, I see that you are a Jew and you may be insulted by the symbol. Please read Swastika. The Nazi swastika is a different design and the Hindus are very peaceful people. We regard the symbol as holy. Thank you GizzaChat  &#169; 00:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Also please see this and weigh in. Thanks. Abecedare 01:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Do see swastika and sauwastika. Baka man  03:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Jonathan Sacks
It's getting very close to Shabbos and I have no time to look into this, but the WP:BLP requires the immediate removal of unsourced material that is derogatory or might be considered libelous of a living person. Shabbat Shalom, --Shirahadasha 20:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Bet Shira and Micah Caplan
Thanks for your kind words. I'll do it for these, but for future articles you might want to bring the AfD to the attention of WikiProject Deletion sorting/Judaism‎ --Shirahadasha 19:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Smaller midrashim
Hey Jayrav. Thanks for the work on the smaller midrashim article. I *am* still working on it, however (hence the "inuse" template), so I'll be making some more changes in the next couple days. When I'm all done I will take down the "inuse" tag, and then feel free to pounce. Thanks. —Dfass 04:26, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm all for working together, but it's easier if we actually communicate about it in advance.   In any case, my plan for the smaller midrashim article was to move all the text for the individual midrashim each into its own article, and then just have a bulleted list linking to each independent article.  So I will eventually have to undo some of your work, for example, I will turn the headings back into bullets at some point (since there's no sense in having empty headings).  I'm sure you dislike having your work undone as much as I do, so this why it's best to communicate in advance.  (I know I keep "inuse" tags on articles much longer than recommended, so people probably think I've forgotten them, but I haven't.)  Anyway, have a good night.  Talk to you later.  —Dfass 04:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm done with it, so it's all yours. Have fun.  —Dfass 19:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Proposal for religious congregations
You recently made a comment in this AFD that makes me think you would have some interest in whether or not to have a notability guideline for religious congregations. Please see Notability (local churches and other religious congregations) (aka WP:CONG). GRBerry 22:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup templates
Just to let you know that most cleanup templates, like "unreferenced", "fact", "cleanup" etc., are best not "subst"ed. See WP:SUBST for more details. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 17:43 27 February 2007 (GMT).

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chad Hopkovitz
Hi Jayrav: You recently added to WikiProject Deletion sorting/Judaism, however as requested at the top of the page ("tag discussions...") you did not complete the process fully. You should have placed the Judaism -- ~ on the Articles for deletion/Chad Hopkovitz page. I have done so now, please remember to do so in the future. Thanks. Wishing you a Chag Kasher VeSameach. IZAK 08:57, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

National Conference of Synagogue Youth
Hi Shira. I have not been active for a while. But my watchpage has filled up with an over 6 reverse edit war on the NCSY page. Can you handle this? And is there a guideline page for an outsider to manage an edit war. --Jayrav 23:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC) Further note- It seems that this is similar to the edit war that occured on the Shlomo Carlebach page over having a criticism section. If I remember correctly, someone set a up a nice explantion and warning on that talk page. --Jayrav 01:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I want to make you aware that the 'Criticism' section you added to the NCSY article was removed by an anomymous user at IP address 208.120.89.146. Although I do not believe that your addition was necessarily neutral or complete, your information was verifiably cited, albeit in an unusual manner, to legitimate sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Infoman99 (talk • contribs) 03:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC).


 * I'll take care of it. FYI the section involved isn't simply criticism of NCSY, it's a claim that NCSY has responsibility for the Baruch Lanner affair -- serious defamation and WP:BLP issues, and it's not clear the source provided is reliable. Am encouraging folks to cool off, and create a Baruch Lanner page and ensure their sourcing meets Wikipedia standards before adding material on the issue to the NCSY page. --Shirahadasha 03:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, I couldn't find a guide to admins for how to manage an edit war. But it's a great idea! Have you thought of writing one? Best, --Shirahadasha 03:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

NCSY related: The Jewish Student Union page is besieged by those insisting that verifiable and notable information is "irrelevant," and instead, quotes from NCSY/JSU staff are being inserted at great length as "proof" of the JSU non-denominational approach. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Student_Union. Please see discussion page. Your input would be helpful, thanks.Mrnhghts (talk) 19:10, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

A manual on how to prevent/resolve edit wars
Perhaps the Harmonious editing club might be interested in such a project. Best, --Shirahadasha 19:30, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Posted your suggestion on Harmonious editing club --Shirahadasha 19:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Rabbi Zvi Block
Please see User:Rachack/Zvi Block/Links concerning Articles for deletion/Zvi Block. --רח"ק | Talk | Contribs 06:38, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

this might interest you
Articles for deletion/List of Messianic Jews and Hebrew Christians --Yeshivish 06:39, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

help
Please respond to Bikinibomb's comments about figs and Judaism here, thanks Slrubenstein  |  Talk 00:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for a very incisive and constructive comment on the talk page (although from his response, I do not think Bikinibomb undeerstood what you wrote - though it is clear to me). I hope you will look at the article itself 9the glossary) and make such contributions as you feel appropriate. best, Slrubenstein   |  Talk 04:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you please weigh in?
Can you please check out the "Normal Mysticism?" section on the talk page of "Glossary of Jewish and Christian terms"? Here's a link. Thanks. -LisaLiel (talk) 15:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

your earlier comments were so construcive and thoughtful, could you be sure to comment here ? Slrubenstein  |  Talk  —Preceding comment was added at 23:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

The Ohr Somayach page is locked, and my sourced links are being dismissed as "irrelevant." What do you think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ohr_Somayach,_Jerusalem Mrnhghts (talk) 19:11, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Wurzburger
Thanks for helping on his page. Although it's not necessarily notable -- he was head of the Beit Din that converted the only gentile in history to write a translation of the New Testament and THEN convert to Judaism. It was his last conversion before his passing.Tim (talk) 02:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Idea for Talmud articles
Hi Jayrav: I am reposting the following request from User on my user talk page for wider notification:


 * I was thinking of trying to stimulate development of a series of articles on Gemara concepts and doctrines, maybe to help children or newcomers to Gemara with explanations of some fundamental concepts that recur throughout the Gemara. Some examples might be articles on Yiush, Chazakah, Ta'aninun (as in "Ta'aninun L'Yoresh"), Eidim Zomemin (forgive my awful transliterations), Migu, etc., etc. Maybe we could even create a category or subcategory for it. I created Breira in this vein. As I don't have the experience or expertise in Wikipedia to know what to do to best develop this idea, I figured I'd come to you for your opinions on: (1) whether it's a good idea; and (2) How to best go about implementing it. Thanks Sh76us (talk) 15:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Centralized discussion at: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism. Thank you. IZAK (talk) 03:32, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Toledano Tradition
Jayrav, I decided to take this off the AfD page, and move it here. The AfD page is getting a little complex. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 21:59, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Jayrav, In the Kabbalah article there is now only a short mention of the debate over Neoplatonic influence, in the last paragraph here[]. It would be good to expand this and/or link to a separate article on the subject. (But, truthfully, that whole section, as it now is, seems very speculative, and disorganized too. I am disinclined to remove any of it because I have hopes someone with the necessary knowledge will improve it.) Malcolm Schosha


 * Thanks for your work on the Kabbalah article. I am out of steam for today, so will think about other changes tomorrow. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 01:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Orthodox
I mainly added people under the category Baalei teshuva to the subcategories of Orthodox Jews by nationality, If I made a few mistakes I apologize--Java7837 (talk) 16:26, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Kabbalah
Please read the Wikipedia Manual of Style and at least try to maintain Wikipedia style guidelines when you do a major reorganization of an article. Also, typically, editors will discuss such major changes with other editors before engaging in such a major revision. Valtyr (talk) 16:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Jayrav, please don't get so excited:

"What are you talking about? The material on the sefirot was from the Gershom Scholem approach and was sourced accordingly. It was not Neoplatonism but Scholem on pre-ZOhar usage of the term in yetzirah and Bahir. At point, MAlcolm, you got to say what counts as a real source for you? What history of the kabblah? If JE does not count nor Scholem, then what? If you are Chabad, or Kabbalah centre or Aryeh Kaplan then say so and we can note the different approaches accordingly. But to take out gershom Scholem material and say it is the same as warren Kenton, I dont understand. --Jayrav (talk) 14:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)"

Remember, I tried to save your edits that broke up the article into more manageable parts, and Abafied forced the revert of that while you were ill. Anyhow, I gave further explanation on the article's talk page, as you will no doubt see. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 20:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Kabbalah and rabbis
Hi Jayrav: The recent conflicts over issues pertaining to rabbis and the question of how to deal with the Kabbalah article's organization may require more attention that we can discuss if you contact me. Sincerely and Shavua Tov. IZAK (talk) 04:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Beth El Synagogue
You made a comment on the AfD that originally the term wasn't simply a random name for a synagogue, but referred to a specific type -- an Orthodox synagogue with mixed seating. Do you have any sources for this? If there is actually a subject to write about here rather than a random list of synagogues that would be interesting. Was there ever an actual movement or organization? Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 22:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

An example of a Beth El synagogue that currently has both a United-Synagogue affiliated Conservative group and an OU-affiliated Orthodox group:,. It's certainly consistent with your thesis about origins. Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 00:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't. Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 00:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Rabbi Hershel Schachter
The blog post links to an audio shiur of Rabbi Schachter where he makes that ruling. Would you rather I link directly to the shiur on YUTorah.org? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chakira (talk • contribs) 01:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

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Arnold Jacob Wolf
You beat me to the punch on Arnold Jacob Wolf, but I'm glad to be able to add some material to an article about a fascinating individual. Keep up the effort on this and similar articles. Shana Tovah! Alansohn (talk) 18:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Arnold Jacob Wolf
- Dravecky (talk) 05:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Jacob B. Agus
The point of a speedy template is to alert an admin that an article merits speedy deletion, and since I am an admin, that has no relevance. The article was full of unsourced POV claims which were without in-line citations to relaible independent sources. For example, the opening sentence: leading liberal Conservative rabbi, scholar, educator philosopher and theologian who played a key role in the Conservative Rabbinical Assembly.

I'm not prepared to recreated in its current form, but I'll put the text here shortly. I've slightly amended the formatting. The book references need page numbers and isbn numbers, and I suggest that when you are ready to recreate you do so at Jacob B. Agus, since the full stop is normal. jimfbleak (talk) 14:36, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * that looks pretty good to me, just recreate at Jacob B. Agus. A couple of minor points you may want to consider
 * Temple University, Dropsie College - could you add a location, so that non-Americans like me have some idea where they are?
 * Book titles should be italicised
 * The web references and neater are more user friendly if written as [url description] like the one I changed in the references
 * jimfbleak (talk) 16:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

It astounds me that this article could ever have been the target of speedy deletion. It could use some expansion and additional sourcing, as all articles could, and I did some cleanup. Sorry I took so long to get to it, but it seems that it would be an unlikely speedy target at this point. Chag Kasher V'Sameach. Alansohn (talk) 14:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Daniel Lapin
Hi Jayrav: Please see my talk page for questions about your reversion of my edits to the Daniel Lapin entry. I would very much like to hear your thoughts before I visit this page again. Thank you!--Hmsc (talk) 12:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Daniel Lapin
Hi, there is a discussion of an article Daniel Lapin you have been involved in editing here at the BLP noticeboard your comments would be appreciated, thanks Off2riorob (talk) 20:19, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

WikiSloth
Hi Jayrav. Would you mind creating a WikiSloth user box, based on yours - it's great. Fintor (talk) 08:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Kuzari Principle for deletion
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Articles for deletion/God and Evil
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