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How can I get a private wiki with the same look-and-feel as Wikipedia?
I saw this question in Village pump (miscellaneous), but because I have done what you are asking about, I am answering on your talk page. I have a web site which works just like Wikipedia, because it is powered by MediaWiki. I avoided the considerable technical task of installing MediaWiki by using a hosting company which provided the software already installed. I have a registered domain name for the web site, but a good web hosting company can help you with that, too.

After warning you about the lack of templates, which can be a serious problem if you are not technically skilled, and a serious task to create them if you are technically skilled, § FreeRangeFrog croak says good luck! I would wish you well, too. You might explain why you want such a web site here, or by sending me an email. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:24, 29 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I take it then that Mediawiki does not include the templates which Wikipedia uses? (I have looked at the Mediawiki website but every 3rd or 4th word is in a language I do not understand!) Am not quite sure what 'template' means, although I have read the Wikipedia article on it.


 * Just right, MediaWiki does not include the templates, and it is a task for the technically skilled to adapt a Wikipedia template for MediaWiki.


 * Thanks for these comments - I am not technically skilled (although I have been using computers since the 1960s - so 'deskilled' is more accurate!) I often feel the need for a private wiki - mainly as a place for recording gobbits of information, and then gradually melding them into something more coherent.


 * I would suggest that the private wiki is not what you need, and too technically challenging for you to create and use with any degree of success. Let me think about your objective, and perhaps I will suggest a different software tool for you that would be cheaper and easier for you. Incidentally, you should be signing every entry on the talk page with ~ by entering those four characters, or by using the signature icon, third from the left at the top of the edit page. DThomsen8 (talk) 14:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Len Carney
Hi there - friendsreunited would not be considred a reliable source for your changes to the Len Carney article. GiantSnowman 09:12, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

The info I put in was not solely based upon Friends Reunited. However, in this case the inof on FR is reliable - there are phots etc there to prove it! ::::Jb1944 (talk) 10:37, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Reversion of edit
Hi, I've deleted the information you added here for several reasons: facebook pages are not usually regarded as reliable sources, civilian casualties are not generally specified by name, and even in a timeline article, Wikipedia is not designed to function as a news service listing all current events, no matter how poignant they may be. I'd suggest taking this to the talk page before restoring the information. On further contemplation, this also caught my eye because the mentioning of the rate of civilian casualties, as well as the naming of individuals, could give the impression that a none neutral point was intended. Perhaps not, but worth discussing before restoring. Thank you, 99.136.252.89 (talk) 19:19, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you anonymous - I feel the naming is important (where possible) because otherwise it is difficult to determine duplication or double-counting. It is also generally done where Israelis are killed by Palestinians (which deals with your other point). Please revert.
 * Jb1944 (talk) 20:29, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi; I wouldn't restore. Not only is the source not acceptable per Wiki guidelines, we don't cite individuals unless they've been established as otherwise notable, and the bulk of the article reflects that policy. Additionally, the text you added was cut and pasted directly from facebook, and would have copyright issues. Thanks, 99.136.252.89 (talk) 04:47, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Please see here. It is clear that victims are consistently named when they are Israeli. ::::Jb1944 (talk) 09:20, 27 January 2013 (UTC)


 * What is seen there is not an historic timeline that attempts a broad overview of incidents, but a prose article about an Israeli settlement where the mentioning of specific crimes is more appropriate. The same article also names Palestinian victims in the following section ; given our guidelines re: mentioning of non notables, I'm dubious about the need to specify the individuals, regardless of affiliation, by name. If there is a bias in Wikipedia articles as you're implying--I haven't done a study, and can't comment on it in general--you haven't noted a good example to support the theory, and the move at the timeline article, for the reasons explained above and to which you've not responded, was not the way to remedy it. If you believe there's a widespread bias, I'd suggest beginning a discussion at a relevant article talk page, or taking it up at an appropriate noticeboard, like Neutral point of view/Noticeboard. 99.136.252.89 (talk) 13:08, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of John Alderton (medic)
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Thanks, ♦ Tentinator ♦  10:16, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes please delete.

Actually it is a 19th century person (not living) but I have the name wrong - it should be AlderSon. I will arrange a correction. Sorry!
 * Jb1944 (talk) 10:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Tip for next time...
If you create something like John Alderton (medic) and decide it was a mistake (before anyone else has added anything substantial), the best thing is to blank the article(ie remove all the contents), and preferably add db-author. Both of these then qualify it for Speedy Deletion G7 as "author of the only substantial content has requested deletion in good faith, either explicitly or by blanking the page", and it gets out of the system as soon as possible - rather than hanging around and getting more work done it by other editors. It's probably one of the lesser-known CSD criteria, but a useful way to tidy up! (Oh, and your link to the pdf file didn't seem to work ... I was checking it to see whether he was ..S.. or ..T.. because I'd noticed the mismatch between title and text, but it never loaded on screen.) Happy Editing. Pam D  11:12, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I added db-author, as you'd requested deletion ... and it's now gone. Pam  D  11:30, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

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Historical British biography sources
Hi.

Here are some useful historical biography sources, and how to access them. Note that accessing them might not be straightforward:

Google Books is OK, but the references you find may be fleeting and not a fair summary of their lives:


 * 1) Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.  http://www.oxforddnb.com/ Requires local library card to access
 * 2) Who's Who and Who was Who http://www.ukwhoswho.com/ Requires local library card to access
 * 3) The Times Digital Archive - some libraries only.  Obituaries of major figures
 * 4) The Guardian and The Observer archives, also available online
 * 5) Telegraph archives are unfortunately not online
 * 6) British library 19th century newspapers
 * 7) Alumni Cantabriageneses - graduates/fellows of Cambridge Uni only.
 * 8) London Gazette - useful for an official British appointments and honours


 * 1) Biographical Memoirs of Fellows of the Royal Society - FRS only.


 * 1) Plarr's Lives of the Fellows Online - FRCS (Royal College of Surgeons) only.


 * 1) Burke's Peerage and Burke's Landed Gentry - useful summaries of those belonging to certain noble families.

Let me know if you have any questions. Barney the barney barney (talk) 09:28, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Wilfred De'ath
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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Wilfred De'ath for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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 * You haven't provided links to any of the above biographical sources that I listed for you, but you're still relying on Google...


 * You can't go round accusing people of being mixed up with Jimmy Saville and the sort of thing that he did you'll get into trouble for because of WP:BLP. Barney the barney barney (talk) 18:09, 30 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The Saville link was on the BBC Radio 4 programme - here it is on their website.   Jb1944 (talk)

Barney the barney barney (talk) 23:41, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Wilfred De'ath
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Deletion discussion about Wilfred De'ath
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I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Wilfred De'ath should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Wilfred De'ath.

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Note on citing sources
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Hi, for future reference try for google book urls.♦  Dr. Blofeld  21:35, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

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Atkinson architects
Hallo, in this edit last year you added info about the subject's grandsons, sourced with a vague Pevsner ref (which someone has since removed). (Well, I say vague: it's a "refname + page no" in an article which doesn't include the reference). There's an article about the middle generation, Peter Atkinson (architect, born 1776), which doesn't mention the sons. I wonder if you could find your source and add a better ref for the info, and perhaps then add it into the father's article where it would seem more relevant? (I just came across one of the Peters while sorting out Category:People stubs, renamed them both in accordance with WP:QUALIFIER, then wondered about the third generation!). Thanks, Pam  D  09:10, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:30, 19 February 2014 (UTC) Hi JB1944. I noticed that you have added some sources to the above article and that you took down the PROD tag. Are you also planning on expanding the content of the article to more firmly establish the notability of the subject? Please see WP:N for an explanation of standards for inclusion in the encyclopedia. It is important to remember that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of knowledge. Just because a subject exists doesn't mean it belongs in an encyclopedia and I am having a hard time seeing anything especially notable about the subject(s) of this particular article. But I wanted to check with you before I send the article to WP:AfD. Best regards -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:58, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination of Dickinson family (cartographers) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dickinson family (cartographers) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Dickinson family (cartographers) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Ad Orientem (talk) 21:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Crambe Beck Station
Hello Jb1944,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Crambe Beck Station for deletion, because it seems to be an article that was created in violation of a block or ban. Content created by banned users will be deleted immediately.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Op47 (talk) 20:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)