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Proposed deletion of Sawyer-Barrow House


The article Sawyer-Barrow House has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails WP:NBUILDING, sources and references need to demonstrate significant coverage about the building not its builder."

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Nomination of Sawyer-Barrow House for deletion
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Editing comments
I recently found Historic country estates in Lake County, Ohio which you created and expanded greatly, and I find it very interesting and admire your research. However, I do have some suggestions, since you have solicited them:
 * Since the article already specifies Ohio, you don't need the "Ohio"/"Oh" in the location column, just use the city etc. name by itself using a piped link, or you can use the pipe trick, though I usually don't.
 * I'm not sure what the bold signifies. You probably don't need it. See MOS:BOLD.
 * Some of it borders on WP:NOTGUIDE, especially regarding the small subject area, but you may be OK if it hasn't been challenged by now.
 * The Plain Dealer journalists in the past have commented specifically that it's not the Cleveland Plain Dealer. (Example on request, I'm going on memory right now).
 * Speaking of which, you probably don't need the note about the library card. While it's courteous to note, those who have it probably already know and those who don't probably don't care, and it's such a relatively small WP audience. There is an option in WP:Cite news for URL access availability.
 * I-90 in Lake County opened in segments, and not all of them in 1959 (see Interstate 90 in Ohio; I've tried to put as much in there as possible, but it doesn't help that The News-Herald doesn't have an index).
 * Thanks Mapsax . I modified my statement to reflect that in 1959 I-90 was only being constructed in the western part of lake Co. It was this construction that had the major impact on the estates like Winden, Mooreland, Nortonwood, KingWood, Greystone Manor, HiLo Farms and even more recently the Bolton estate. I've always been curious what considerations went into the decision to build I-90 where they did rather using possible alternate routes. Jbarrow51 (talk) 16:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Digging through old newspapers might reveal some things. I know that I've seen reports for other planned highways; there's been more emphasis in the process during the EPA era, but I'm sure there's at least limited coverage for projects prior to that. From my limited research, the route of I-90 was influenced more by old Lake Erie beach ridges and the edge of the Allegheny Plateau than any property along the route. Researching the Cincinnati-Conneaut Turnpike might help you (a quick Google search already brought this). Good luck. Mapsax (talk) 01:18, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Anyway, I hope I haven't been too critical. Mapsax (talk) 02:33, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I forgot to mention, please remember to put the appropriate number of colons before your talk page responses for appropriate indentation (as I just did on this line; in other words, any reply to this will need two colons). Mapsax (talk) 02:36, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the time to review this page. I agree about removing Ohio from the location column and dropping Cleveland from the Plain Dealer reference. However, I do like mentioning the fact that accessing the Plain Dealer is free as I feel some WP Editors might assume I was steering readers towards a paid site. Jbarrow51 (talk) 16:27, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * First, I just want to make clear that it wasn't an official WP review, though you probably knew that, just my humble thoughts. Second, I wouldn't worry about the latter – paywalls are everywhere, and citing a reliable source in the form of a long-established local newspaper of record (I believe) won't raise any suspicions. See WP:RSC. (Technically you don't have to link to anything at all – see WP:OFFLINE – but of course it's ideal if possible.) There is WP:PAY but it doesn't look like that that affects you. Mapsax (talk) 00:05, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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