User talk:Jbminn

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Freepository
The last editor to the page tagged the article as db-web, citing its Alexa Web Traffic Ranking. If you go to Alexa.com and search Freepository, you get a web traffic ranking of 4,449,067. This definitely fails WP:WEB criteria. If you do a Google search, you get only 11,900 hits. If you look at "What links here", you see that the article was only linked to one other article. All this led to my decision to delete the article. I doubt that Freepository really handles that many accounts when it has that low of a Alexa ranking, and I also doubt that it really is compared to SourceForge at all. SourceForge is ranked #88 on Alexa, and Google generates nearly 80,000,000 hits for "SourceForge". How does 4,449,067 compare with 88? How does 80,000,000 compare with 11,900? Upon reviewing all these items, I still believe the article was correctly deleted. Nish kid 64  13:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. There are two factual and/or logical errors in the approach you've outlined:


 * 1. Freepository and Sourceforge are either compared, listed together or discussed on 1340 pages (Google 8:15am MST 22-Oct-2006).
 * 2. Freepository's usage as a source control tool - on a daily basis - is via sserver & https traffic that isn't measured by Alexa, or any of the other traffic sites.


 * By our internal measures (not externally verifiable), there is approximately 8 times more direct traffic to the site via sserver connections than https (all traffic is either sserver or https, http is immediately redirected to https so that no tranmission of source code goes across the wire in clear-text).  Freepository manages over 12,000 very active projects for engineers worldwide, the majority of whom access the service via a direct sserver connection.


 * Trusting Alexa's ratings is widely disputed in general, so citing Alexa rankings as a factor in making a speedy delete decision is unsound. See  Alexa - Amazon's Most Flawed Idea  for one example of the analysis of Alexa, and conclusions about its usefulness.  From Alexa itself:


 * "The Alexa Toolbar turns itself off on secure pages (https:). Sites with secure page views will be under-represented in the Alexa traffic data." - source Alexa- Traffic Learn More


 * May I suggest you take a look at the paper that was cited in the original article - [[ http://www.ibiblio.org/fosphost/eval_fosphost090.pdf | Construction of an Evaluation Model for

Free/Open Source Project Hosting Sites, Haggen Hau Heng So, RMIT Univeristy ]] to learn more about the FOSHosting. Becoming more well-inforemd on this topic will allow you to make better editing decisions. "Doubt" as you express above, especially when it can be easily and immediately muted, should at a minimum place the article as a Candidate for Deletion, subject to the 5 day review.


 * I am challenging the Speedy Delete Decision.


 * John Minnihan --Jbminn 15:23, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Touché. Okay, I changed my mind. You can recreate the article. If it does get tagged for speedy deletion again, you can remove the tag and make an AfD for the page, and that way we can get a community consensus on the issue. Good arguments; you won me over. =) Nish kid  64  16:55, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I already restored the page for you. See Freepository. Now you can edit it and fix it up however you please. Nish kid  64  17:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)