User talk:Jcarson87

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Kathryn Stagge-Marr
This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Kathryn Stagge-Marr, and it appears to be a substantial copy of http://www.goshenhistory.org/Kathryn-Marr.html.

It is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article. The article will be reviewed to determine if there are any copyright issues.

If substantial content is duplicated and it is not public domain or available under a compatible license, it will be deleted. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. You may use such publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. See our copyright policy for further details. (If you own the copyright to the previously published content and wish to donate it, see Donating copyrighted materials for the procedure.) CorenSearchBot (talk) 23:09, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kathryn Stagge-Marr


A tag has been placed on Kathryn Stagge-Marr requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.goshenhistory.org/Kathryn-Marr.html. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website or image but have permission from that owner, see Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 23:23, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Public domain?
Hi Jcarson87, do you have any evidence that this is public domain? The only notice on the page is "Website Designed by Goshen Township Historical Society © 2014" at the very bottom of the page, and I'm afraid Wikipedia has to assume that information is copyrighted unless it's *explicitly* stated that it isn't. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 23:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Howicus: I am discussing this on the phone with a Goshen Historical Society member with explicit permission to extend this article on Wikipedia. Name and references of Historical Society members can be given if needed.[jcarson87]
 * A couple things. First, the Historical Society would have to be ok with allowing anyone to reuse the content, for any purpose.  Wikipedia's license allows reuse, so any content on Wikipedia from elsewhere must also allow reuse. Second, they'd have to prove the content is useable in a way that allows anyone to check it at any time.  If they have access to the historical society website, they can edit the article on that site and license it.  WP:Donating copyrighted materials goes more in depth about what they can do.  Howicus (Did I mess up?) 23:36, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Copyright and notability
I am sorry that you are finding the process frustrating. Wikipedia has to be extremely careful about copyright; assertion by someone on the end of a wire that permission has been given is not enough. We have to be certain that the person giving a release has the authority to do so, and that the actual copyright holder understands and agrees to Wikipedia's CC-BY-SA license terms, which allow any reader to copy, modify and re-use material for any purpose including commercial. For those reasons, a formal copyright release, as described at WP:Donating copyrighted materials, is required.

However, even if the copyright issue were resolved, I am not sure that this material is suitable for Wikipedia. The inclusion criterion is called Notability and looks for evidence of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", see also Notability (summary) and WP:NOTMEMORIAL #4. Just having been written up by a local historical society is unlikely to be enough. If you want to proceed, by all means do, but unless you can provide references to show more than a purely local significance, I think it likely that this would be nominated for deletion.

I gather that the Goshen Historical Society plan further contributions. These will be welcome, but in order to avoid disappointment I recommend reading the (rather long) list of What Wikipedia is not, which tries to keep this a usable encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not a directory #2 Genealogical entries may be relevant. The links in the Welcome message above will tell you more about Wikipedia; WP:Your first article is useful, and A primer for newcomers aims to provide a one-stop guide.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:00, 29 November 2014 (UTC)


 * PS: "WikiProjects" are groups of editors interested in a particular subject. ("Editor" means just the same as "User" - there is no separate class of "Editors"). You may be able to get advice and help from users with similar interests at WP:WikiProject Ohio. JohnCD (talk) 15:21, 29 November 2014 (UTC)