User talk:Jcbeaudoin

ManKai Common Lisp
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article ManKai Common Lisp, please cite a reliable source for your addition. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. See Citing sources for how to cite sources, and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Yworo (talk) 03:57, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Dear Yworo, I am a bit at a loss as to what kind of "reliable source" you want to have added to the new ManKai Common Lisp page? I happen to be the sole author of the piece of software mentioned in that page, how more reliable than this do you want it to be? I purposely patterned this new page on the Embeddable Common Lisp page since MKCL is a branch from ECL and I don't see any more reliable or independent sources on that ECL page? I inserted two links to the ManKai Common Lisp official homepage that resides on common-lisp.net, I thought that was enough. What else could be done? Jcbeaudoin (talk) 04:32, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Notability is established by independent third-party sources, such as articles and reviews in reliable publications. If there aren't any, the product simply does not meet our notability requirements. You are not supposed to create articles about yourself or your own projects, as that constitutes a conflict of interest and is considered spamming. Someone involved in the project is not a reliable source, because they are not independent: you are an unreliable source for the product. Yworo (talk) 06:14, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Well then I can only pray that some kind soul will come to be interested in the existence of ManKai Common Lisp and that the said kind soul will be moved enough to report it to Wikipedia. The matter is clearly out of my hands. Sorry for all the noise.Jcbeaudoin (talk) 06:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * That actually wouldn't be sufficient. An encyclopedia summarizes what other reliable sources say. It would first need to be reviewed in two or more reliable journals (not blogs, forums, or mailing lists). It generally takes a number of years before a product is taken note of by reliable sources and thus becomes notable. Yworo (talk) 06:35, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of ManKai Common Lisp


The article ManKai Common Lisp has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * notability of product not established due to lack of independent third-party reliable sources

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Yworo (talk) 06:20, 20 May 2012 (UTC)